Finals | Simon Nielsen vs Sam Pardee | Modern |  

This is what you get when “diversity” anyone cares about is not metagame one

Why didn’t you also list the one ring that many times? There were 5 Nadu decks out of top 8 but 7 out of the top 8 decks are playing the one ring. I won’t say the one ring is an interesting card to interact with in that sense.

@@yfw123 ring is also a very obvious problem

It’s not just that Nadu dominates the meta, but it’s incredibly painful to watch

@@kasuto-no-machi very

Their excuse was that there's too many cases to consider when designing a card. But that's almost as if there's a great argument in favor of stopping Product Fatigue. They're printing too much to boost short term quarterly gains that it's causing card power and mistakes to inflate exponentially.

They're getting a raise for selling packs

@@reviewchan9806 There are too many cases to look at legacy cephalid breakfast decks and realise that'd be a stupid idea in modern?

They just had to put the closing quote one sentence earlier

100 %. I turned off the live stream after the first game of the quarter finals.

Can you imagine showing this to a new player lol. Ya this is pure magic baybee.

@@datenschutzification it’s modern what do you expect. The format is dominated by a few decks then one card comes along and changes it. Atleast it’s not vintage. Shit it’s been the same decks for 20 years. Atleast standard rotates 🤷‍♂️

​@@Tylerbremner you can't be serious about Vintage. Is it true?

@@BauldyBoys "yeah, this is magic and btw you have to spend a shit ton of bucks to only get the land base.."

Dont worry, they'll print a 4 damage bolt in MH4

That costs your opponent 1 mana

I don't even blame the players, they're gravitating to the best deck. I blame Wizards for releasing the bird when everyone and their mom could tell he would absolutely destroy the format.

Worse pro tour watch experience. Ever.

Insects.

Wait, you think they still test cards??

They definitely tested Nadu and it is designed with every intention to be a format warping card. There's no way you put a weird clause like "twice each turn" in there, unless it went through quite a bit of testing. They wanted to create a buzzcard that would define the format and they pushed it far enough that they succeeded... So... Good job! You did it! Great format! 🥱

First one

What has wotc done to give you this confidence. This is the first little part of Nadu summer.

They didn’t immediately ban tolarian academy. This ain’t getting banned too quickly.

​@@Morphling92Tolarian Academy? You mean 25 years ago?

@@coopergw3463 yeah. The card wasn’t any less bananas in the unofficial artifact cycle than it is now….

WotC sucks at promoting their events. You can very easily miss them if you aren't following everything in Magic.

Yuuuuuhp I was longing for pod and twin 😢

It is also not cheating. It is a missed trigger on Javiers part. He is responsible for remembering his own triggered abilities. If Javier remembers his protection trigger his opponent just cast a 2 mana 1/4 that literally did nothing.

​@@Itachi__Uchihaits not a missed trigger since he wouldnt be able to target him. Anyway the judges messed up on this one

@MrLeMacon no Javier missed his trigger for TOR protection. If Javier announced his protection trigger and then Simon cast sun cleanser and said target him it would be GRV for Simon.

@@Itachi__Uchiha "announced his protection trigger"

@@Itachi__Uchiha ay what a miss, still playing the miss of your comrade is not very honorable...

😅

Looping lands with endurance and Sylvan safekeeper and bouncing all opponents nonland permanents with otawara and destroying all their lands with boseiju

The combo is Shuko, Springheart, & Nadu.

That situation with Javier getting targeted by the sun cleanser would be ruled as a missed trigger on Javiers part. I have had this same thing happen to me but I was targeted with a Hedron Crab trigger and the judge told me It would be a missed trigger on the one rings protection. So no nobody cheated Javier forgot his own trigger and he is responsible for that. Is it unfortunate, yes. I would have loved to see Jeskai control go deeper into the top 8.

@@Itachi__UchihaI'm sorry that that happened to you, but I don't think that that's how it should be ruled at all. Regardless of if its a "missed trigger". The fact that something like this can happen in such a high stakes tournament like this shows MAJOR flaws in competitive magic. There is a judge sitting there who should have pointed it out immediately. If this were an arena event there would be no possibility of this happening. The fact that something like this can happen, and the judges excuse is that its a "missed trigger" is a pretty bad look for the competitive scene.

@@Itachi__Uchiha There were also instances where Simon would shuffle Javier's deck after casting endurance, as well as not allowing his opponents to cut his own deck after shuffling. I am not declaring Simon a cheater for any of this, but why aren't the judges doing anything?

Yea pretty bad but it was on Javier he should have realized especially at such a critical time.

i believe i saw dominguez tapping a plains to cast counterspell in that match, this one is obviously cheating what makes me wonder is, how come the judge doesnt know that, given dominguez playing with a full-art clearly-yellow-colored plains card to me, he still deserves the loss

There was definitely diverse decks, but diversity doesn’t win matches, Nadu does lol.

Did no one notice it or when did it happen?

@@ASCP_Certified There are a few reddit threads discussing it, it's honestly shameful.

@@ASCP_Certified use target Player effect with Ring guard from the other Player. Does not offer the Deck to cut.... thats what i saw and i missed the semi final.

@@hd_1635 Javier Dominguez never announced or demonstrated awareness of his one ring trigger at any point. He missed his trigger. Simon Nielsen was not doing anything wrong with the Suncleanser

@@jadegrace1312 it is implied that when you cast The Ring, you get protection regardless you announce it or not. Now, when suncleanser entered, the target opponent ability should have fizzled since targeting Javier with protection is not a valid target.

He cheated to get here

What about Nielson refusing to let his opponent shuffle or cut his deck after evoking a Endurance on himself? Witnessed that happen multiple times

@@poohjinn-qz3dx he cannot REFUSE to let his opponent shuffle his deck, what are you talking about? He might not have presented but it's pretty normal for them to not do that after something like an endurance evoke that doesn't matter

@@williamw8590 there were multiple times he tried to bully his opponent during play, and in that light it makes the play against Javier very sketchy/motivated......Numerous times he shuffled his own deck off endurance or a fetchland, and very rarely he would offer his deck to his opponent for cut. Instead, he would try to push the pace of the match and divert attention away from his opponent actually shuffling his deck/etc. Just rewatch the match against Javier. I really just wish there was more footage of this scumbag this weekend.

@@poohjinn-qz3dx this is totally normal after playing so much magic in 48 hours. If you want to cut your opponents deck, you cut it. If they don't let you, you call a judge and they get DQ'd. Y'all are crazy, a lot of his matches this top 32 were against his teammates and friends lol

Endurance doesn't shuffle your deck. It puts cards on the bottom. ​@@poohjinn-qz3dx

But paper magic is way way better.

Someone else

You're thinking of Bart Van Etten, someone with an actual history of cheating

Damage from playing vs Burn during first rounds

@@h3rtzenwell the man slept through the first few rounds of a pro tour one year so I figured he liked the night life but the burn answer makes more sense 🔥 😂

He was in a fight with a bird I reckon.

@@Leuber should have bolted it

Exactly what I was thinking! Very little interaction and excessively long turns of MTG solitaire.

I learned and I quit playing constrcuted magic a long time ago. Id rather roll dice in an alley with crackheads. More skill than playing magic nowadays

I miss Rich Hagan

Rich, BDM and Marshall were the best ones.. LSV was good too wit them.

Javier missed his trigger lol. There's nothing sketchy at all about the Suncleanser play.

@@jadegrace1312 and why does he not attack in this round ? I also congratulate to the judges.

@@hd_1635 I don't know and I don't care lol. Simon is completely within his rights under the rules to target Javier with the Suncleanser trigger since Javier hasn't previously demonstrated awareness of his ring trigger. At this point Javier lets it through so his trigger is missed.

@@jadegrace1312 then dont comment when you dont care :D

@@hd_1635 I do care about people like you who don't know anything about magic accusing Simon Nielsen of cheating. I just don't care why he didn't attack cause it doesn't matter at all.

If you don't have anything nice to say about people's appearances, it's best not to say anything at all.

@@haydenbuters4659 are you ageist? So if I said he looked 20 you wouldn’t comment would you? When has looking older been a bad thing? You’re ageist, bro

​@@haydenbuters4659😂😂 don't be so sensitive he didnt even say anything terrible ctfu.

There's nothing to investigate. I'm still waiting for you to admit you were just wrong about how triggered abilities work and you were spreading bs

​@@jadegrace1312cheating happened with endurance shuffling and stacking triggers wrong to get more value out of nadu. The one ring situation was very sketchy but we can't tell for sure if it was cheating without the table audio.

They wont ban yet. They haven't sold enough boxes yet.

In this game or did he cheat throughout the tourny?

​@ASCP_Certified he didn't cheat in the sense I don't think he knew he was cheating as he's a very honest player with no cheating background and the card is new and weird. Basically in qf Javier Dominguez had one ring protection and Simon cast suncleanser which more or less locks Javier out but it targets him so he shouldn't have been able to. If he had played correctly Javier would have had his mana open on the next turn responded and have a 99% of winning. Super fucked up mainly on the judge end with multiple watching such an important match without noticing

Ya Simon wouldn't cheat it's just a hard format right now ​@@mtgkid0205

​@@ASCP_Certified1/8 games he targeted the energy deck player while one ring protection was on. The creature he did it with prevent the player to have energy counter and his opponent had 2 clear the skies that use energy to wrath the board...

@@mtgkid0205well the biggest part that suggests cheating was the fact he deliberately chose to not attack. It wasn’t deliberate “cheating” but it came across like one of those players constantly trying to take advantage of opponents lack of attention/rules knowledge.

Mh sets are pure mistakes

@@abusus75but..but they sell packs…

Blame Hasbro

Skullclamp was eventually banned.

@GIJOE24306 I can see how the mistake with Skullclamp happened. Not sure how this happened. One overworked intern playtested this set before they laid them off in December.

Yet here u r watching it 😂

@subzero308 before mh2 I was playing modern. Now I'm just watching the dumpster fire from a distance

Facts I don't care bout that weird garbage... Ur either a man or a woman simple as that... A man can't be a woman and a woman can't be a man.

Facts

Saw no one complain about mh3 in general, set is awesome. On the other hand nadu being the top 4 and the judges\gameplay were extremely disappointing.

@@ConstpatedKire broken cards exist from the dawn of time, they get printed and if they too strong, they get banned, I don't think that's a pattern that really can be avoided in a TCG; in regards to the cheating/judges question my understanding is that if a player forgets to announce a trigger that trigger simply doesn't happen and the other player can behave as so, so I don't think the judges did nothing wrong, they would have if they told Javier Dominguez about his One Ring trigger practically giving him an advantage

@@savinobalducci6148 They were quick to point out Nielsen's forgotten draw step though. My point is the gameplay as an experience was awful regardless of judges being there or not

Ban the bird

The constructive criticism is ban Nadu and get better and more consistent judges.

I mean technically modern isn't for new players well watching isn't anyways but yea the whole pronouns thing is garbage and needs to go.

Yea it was way better before it got way to woke and commercialized sadly love the game but this garbage ain't the same anymore.