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Find all positive integer n 

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The idea is of consecutive even integers.

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@enerjae7174
@enerjae7174 12 часов назад
I think we can say that 2n > 2^(n-1) rather than ≥, but all this does is save us from checking n=4. Thanks for the video!
@daniorugbani5914
@daniorugbani5914 12 часов назад
You’re simply amazing. Excellent presentation.
@mathunt1130
@mathunt1130 10 часов назад
I think that the most insightful comment of the video was that of building an inequality to bound the number of choices that you would need to try.
@mab9316
@mab9316 10 часов назад
He is just fantastic in explaining his methodology before actually resolving. Elfantastico 🎉
@balasrinivasan7173
@balasrinivasan7173 11 часов назад
Set p = k-1. Then, n 2^n = p(p+2). Clearly p is even as n is positive. Set p = 2q. Gives n 2^(n-2) = q(q+1). This leads to n and 2^(n-2) being two consecutive integers (due to odd-even combination). This in turn means that there are only two solutions: n-1 = 2^(n-2) and n+1 = 2^(n-2) leading to n = 2 and 3.
@dan-florinchereches4892
@dan-florinchereches4892 10 часов назад
Very smart thinking. I didn't see that n*2^(n-2) =q(q+1) initially but we cannot remove other factors than 2 from the 2^(n-2) part of the product and if we do remove factors then the difference between n*f and 2^(n-2)/f will be 0 or a multiple of 2 leading to the consecutive statement. Really nice and elegant
@KiLLJoYYouTube
@KiLLJoYYouTube 6 часов назад
Could you expand on why n and 2^(n-2) are proven to be consecutive integers?. For q(q+1) it may be the case, but how does it translate to n* 2^(n-2) ?
@alucs6362
@alucs6362 5 часов назад
@@KiLLJoYRU-vidI really like the simplicity of this proof but I think that you are right the last step isn't quite right. The conclusion is only roght if n is odd or 2^(n-2) is odd. I think the best way to finish the proof is to note that the even part of n*2^(n-2) must be at most 1 unit larger than the odd part. This even part is greater than or equal to 2^(n-2) and the odd part is smaller than or equal to n. Since 2^(n-2)>n+1 for n>4 (2^3>5+1), you just need to check n=1,2,3,4. And, of course we get the right result then
@balasrinivasan7173
@balasrinivasan7173 2 часа назад
Sorry for not clarifying the last step, which I put in paranthesis for the sake of brevity. However, my thought process was nicely summarized in the comments by @alucs6362. The only thing I would add is this. * If one of them, n or 2^(n-2), is odd, we are good. * Consider n is even. Since 2^(n-2) has no odd factors, n has to be a multiple of an odd number greater than or equal to 3, i.e. n > 5. Now, n is greater than the odd number and so 2^(n-2) lesser than the even number, leads to 2^(n-2) < (n+1). This inturn gives n < 5, which is a contradiction. So, n can't be even and a multiple of an odd number. Brings back to n and 2^(n-2) being consecutive.
@Deep_OP1235
@Deep_OP1235 12 часов назад
Thanks brother ❤
@AmlanSarkar-wr2pr
@AmlanSarkar-wr2pr 3 часа назад
Great Great!!!!❤️❤️👏👏
@RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
@RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 8 часов назад
Find all positive integers n such that n2^n+1 is a square. n2^n+1=k^2 2(2)^2+1=9=3^2 3(2)^3+1=25=5^2 k = -1, n = 0 k = 1, n = 0 k = ± 5, n = 3 k = ± 3, n = 2 Positive integers of n=2,3
@kragiharp
@kragiharp 12 часов назад
Well, k is odd, obviously. But I didn't get it, why k-1 = a 2^(n-1) etc. Got to think about it more.
@mathcanbeeasy
@mathcanbeeasy Час назад
Because a natural number can be 4k, 4k+1, 4k+2, 4k+3. So, two consecutive even numbers cannot be multiple of 4.
@ChristopherBitti
@ChristopherBitti Час назад
Explanation of the Euclidean algorithm: If b = c (mod a), then gcd(a, b) = gcd(a, c). The reason for this is b = c (mod a) means b = c + ak for some k. Now, let d = gcd(a, b) and g = gcd(a, c). Since g divides a and c, it divides b. Thus, g divides a and b, and thus is a common factor of them. Thus, it divides the gcd of a and b, which is d. Now, rearranging b = c + ak to c = b - ak, it is clear to see that since d divides a and b, it also divides c. Thus, d divides a and c, and is thus a common factor of them, and thus divides their gcd, which is g. Thus, d and g divide each other, and so they are equal. So, in the problem, the reason gcd(x - 1, x + 1) = 2 is because first, we know x = 1 (mod x - 1), so that means x + 1 = 2 (mod x - 1) (just replace x with 1). Thus, gcd(x - 1, x + 1) = gcd(x - 1, 2). gcd(x - 1, 2) = 2 because we know x is odd, and so x - 1 is even, aka it has at least one factor of 2. In general, the Euclidean algorithm is nice for finding the gcd of large integers. Let's say we want the gcd of 78 and 96, we can take 96 mod 78 and get that we just need the gcd of 78 and 18, then we can take 78 mod 18 to get that we just need the gcd of 18 and 6, which is 6. Thus, the gcd of 78 and 96 is 6. In fact, you can even apply the Euclidean algorithm to polynomials. The gcd of f(x) and g(x) is the gcd of f(x) and g(x) (mod f(x)). You can obtain g(x) (mod f(x)) by polynomial long dividing g(x) by f(x) and taking the remainder. Make sure you long divide by the one of f(x) or g(x) with smaller (or equal) degree, because then the remainder will have reduced degree, which is what you want. After all, the purpose of an algorithm is to simplify a problem.
@jamesharmon4994
@jamesharmon4994 12 часов назад
I just started looking at this, but I attacked it differently. I'm looking at trends when the statement is true. It is true when n=2 and n=3. This is as far as I've gotten in a few minutes.
@jamesharmon4994
@jamesharmon4994 12 часов назад
Watching later into the video, it is clear that these are the only solutions.
@ronaldking1054
@ronaldking1054 4 часа назад
Easier explanation is that many powers of 2 must be divisible by 4. Moving by 2 means that modulus 4 must be a 2.
@ChristopherBitti
@ChristopherBitti Час назад
Nice problem. If n2^n + 1 is a square then there is a positive integer x such that n2^n = x^2 - 1 = (x - 1)(x + 1). Taking both sides mod 2, it is clear that x must be odd, and thus x - 1 and x + 1 must both be even. Furthermore, the Euclidean algorithm gives us that gcd(x - 1, x + 1) = gcd(x - 1, 2) = 2 because x + 1 = 2 (mod x - 1). Thus, either x - 1 or x + 1 has a factor of 2^(n - 1). Note that for n >= 5, 2^(n - 1), which is the minimal size of the factor that does have 2^(n - 1) as a factor, is bigger than 2n, which is the maximal size of the factor that does not have 2^(n - 1) as a factor, and thus the larger of the two factors, x + 1, must be the one with 2^(n - 1) as a factor. Now notice that 2 = (x + 1) - (x - 1) >= 2^(n - 1) - (x - 1) >= 2^(n - 1) - 2n > 2. This is a contradiction, so we must have n < 5. n = 1 does not yield a solution because 3 is not a square n = 2 does yield a solution because 9 is a square n = 3 does yield a solution because 25 is a square n = 4 does not yield a solution because 65 is not a square Thus, the solutions are n = 2, 3
@GreenMeansGOF
@GreenMeansGOF 10 часов назад
4:41 The right hand side is divisible by 8 so n is at least 2. However, I have not yet found an easier way to eliminate the other cases.
@jay_sensz
@jay_sensz 6 часов назад
n*2^n+1 is an odd number, which it must be the square of an odd number, therefore we can write n*2^n+1=(2*k+1)^2. This leads to n*2^(n-2) = k*(k+1). We observe that k and k+1 are consecutive integers, which means they are coprime. |2^(n-2) - n| > 1 for n≥5. This means that n*2^(n-2) can't possibly be the product of two consecutive integers (for n≥5) since one of them must be at least 2^(n-2) (the other number has to be odd) and the other one can be at most n. That leaves only n ∈ {1,2,3,4} as possible candidates. n=1 doesn't work because 1*2^(1-2) is not an integer. n=2 works because 2*(2^(2-2)) = 2 can be factorized into consecutive integers 1*2 (k=1). Therefore 2*2^2+1 = 9 = (2*1+1)^2 n=3 works because 3*(2^(3-2)) = 6 can be factorized into consecutive integers 2*3 (k=2). Therefore 3*2^3+1 = 25 = (2*2+1)^2 n=4 doesn't work because 4*2^(4-2) = 16 can only be factorized into coprime factors as 1*16, which are not consecutive numbers. More values of n just for fun: n=5 -> 5*2^(5-2) = 40 --> coprime factorizations: 5*8, 1*40 n=6 -> 6*2^(6-2) = 96 --> coprime factorizations: 6*16, 3*32, 2*48, 1*96 n=7 -> 7*2^(7-2) = 224 --> coprime factorizations: 7*32, 1*224 n=8 -> 8*2^(8-2) = 512 --> coprime factorizations: 1*512 n=9 -> 9*2^(9-2) = 1143 --> coprime factorizations: 9*127, 3*381, 1*1143 ...
@samin21
@samin21 12 часов назад
Method 1) (- x= 3) equation is given Multiplying both sides by (-1) -1*-x=-1*3 Then x=-3 or Method 2) Let the equation be (- x= 3) If we multiply both sides with "MINUS" sign -(- x)= -(3) Then x= -3. Which one is correct or both methods are correct . Please help 🙏🙏
@prodqrn
@prodqrn 12 часов назад
method two is the same as method one, the "Minus sign" has an implied one so the two are identical.
@Chikov2
@Chikov2 5 часов назад
If k -1 is 2^n (n>1), then k is divisible by 4. k+3, k+7, etc is divisible by 4, hence k+1 is not divisible by 4 and therefore only contains one 2.
@johns.8246
@johns.8246 23 минуты назад
You didn't do the 2n = a(k-1) case.
@elunedssong8909
@elunedssong8909 9 часов назад
n*2^n= k^2-1 n*2^n divisible by k+1 and k-1 n*2^n, n=k+1 or n=k-1, or n is combinable with 2^n. n is not combinable with 2^n, as no perfect square is adjacent to an integer exponent. 2^9+-1 cannot be a perfect square. or k+1,k-1 is divisible by something else. for n=k+1,n=k-1, 2 options: n-1 =k, or n+1=k 2^n+1=k or 2^n-1 =k n+1=2^n-1 n=2, 3=4-1, therefore 2 is a solution, no other solutions of this form, same reasoning. n-1=2^n+1 n=1, 0=3, therefore no solutions. for k+1 divislbe by something else: n= (k-1)/u, 2^n=(k+1)*u, and vice versa. 4 options, Most plausable case is the one stated: n*u+1=2^n/u-1 n=3, u+1=2^3/u-1 u=2, 3=3 n=3,u=2 is a solution. Check the other 3 for any other solutions, but i have finished the video so it is not neccesary. Wonderful as always, harder problem than i realized.
@glorrin
@glorrin 10 часов назад
I have 2 questions : 1) why did we ignore n*2^n = (k-1)a2^(n-1) ? 2) n*2^n = (k-1)a2^(n-1) (and the other) It looks like it works but how to we prove it ?
@Unordinary-lg4yt
@Unordinary-lg4yt 12 часов назад
Edit: ok better worded is, a factor of consecutive 2’s.
@tamalmondal587
@tamalmondal587 5 часов назад
the logic is not clear why K+1 or k-1 has to be a2^n-1 . K+1 and k-1 are consecutive even numbers but why it has to be a2^n-1 ?
@thomashope2806
@thomashope2806 10 часов назад
n2^n = k^2 - 1 n*ln2*e^(n*ln2) = ln2*(k^2 - 1) n = W(ln2*(k^2-1))/ln2
@xinpingdonohoe3978
@xinpingdonohoe3978 9 часов назад
If you have a computer to check all the branches, then that works I guess. If not, how do we identify natural solutions?
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