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Find Center on a Board with a Scrap Piece of Wood by OTB Thinker 

Russ Veinot
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@ricdonato4328
@ricdonato4328 6 месяцев назад
Wow, spot-on technique, I like it. Thank you for sharing. Prior to watching your video my technique was using a tap measure, speed square, or combo square.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, Ric, for the kind words and your insight.
@24734776
@24734776 2 года назад
Russ keep doing the great teaching you are doing. I understood very well your demonstration of how to find the center of a board. Great job. Center is center. Thank you.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 2 года назад
Thanks Jim. Its comments like yours that keep me going . . . oh, and welcome to my shop :>)
@pinkdragonfly9753
@pinkdragonfly9753 4 года назад
Thank you for your video and you did a great job of explaining. Don't waste your time on folks that simply aren't happy in life that they have to pick apart everything to cause strife!. You have great videos and I certainly appreciate them!
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
Thanks pinky, for your kind words of encouragement.
@hai99noi
@hai99noi 4 года назад
I got A’s in Geometry, Trigonometry, Calculus and never come up with the idea to make them useful. Thank you for sharing both with the triangle and a flat piece of wood to find the center of a board. I find my center using the method most carpenters do. My bigger problem though is to get a perfect drilling to the marked spots!
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
Funny as I look back, I was excellent with geometry, trig., etc. myself and bad at shop classes. Geometry is fun, and math creates mistakes. Really great to hear from your again Hai :>)
@hai99noi
@hai99noi 4 года назад
Russ Veinot I watch every clip that you posted. I haven’t made social comment to follow the world rule of keeping the social distance. 😊😊😊
@Fish6699
@Fish6699 4 месяца назад
Science Trumps Preference Every Time ALWAYS!! 👍😉😁👏 Geometry is Perfect and your Techniques are Proven and Indisputable. I can’t believe Anyone who claims to be a Professional would TRY to Dispute the Basic Techniques you’ve shown.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 месяца назад
Thanks Fish. I call it OTB thinking :>)
@nikolasparadis7722
@nikolasparadis7722 Год назад
Totally accurate!!! Look, I'm no carpenter, neither am I a jack of all trades type of guy. I don't even know how you called the thing that carpenters are using to hit the timy metal sticks to assemble to long rectangle pieces of wood together. But, has a terminator I can tell you that this square is accurate as the Geneva metric standard. My eyes uses three helium-neon lasers as a basis for length measurement (national standard). These lasers are compared with each other and with lasers of the same frequency. And this, in order to best guarantee the stability of the measurements. I'M TELLING YOU; THIS SQUARE IS TOTALLY ACCURATE.... POST TERMINATED!!!!
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 Год назад
Yeah . . . what you said :>).
@danfinn5499
@danfinn5499 4 года назад
Thank You!!! I have been trying to figure this out being new to wood working and, this will help an old man like me.
@pinkdragonfly9753
@pinkdragonfly9753 4 года назад
Love this technique! Fast & easy! Thank You for the tips!
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
I try to avoid measuring as often as I can, Thanks pinky :>)
@MrPoppabear255
@MrPoppabear255 4 года назад
Yet another great OTB tip. BTW I read the comments you were referring to. His comments lead me to believe that he is a self appointed woodworking purist. He didn’t explain his definition of accuracy. You could use whatever method he uses and he would still say it’s not accurate enough. Some people can only feel good about themselves by finding faults with other whether or not they real or imagined. Russ keep OTB’ing there are those of us out here that spore our and enjoy your videos. Do your thing and don’t let the naysayers get you.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
As ornery as I am, I thrive on them :>). He is the reason I made this video. Thanks Poppa
@stuffoflardohfortheloveof
@stuffoflardohfortheloveof 4 года назад
Very good Russ! Made me realise just how simple it is to do. Never really thought about it before and, having read some of the other comments, I now realise you can do it even simpler with either a diagonally placed ruler or, actually, any piece of wood that already has a mark at its centre by laying that diagonally too.....thanks for enlightening me 👍
@frankherring6253
@frankherring6253 4 года назад
Good stuff Russ! I usually use a ruler in the same manor as you just showed. Pick a number of units that is divisible by two and mark it in the middle. If you want any other division amount just pick a number of of units divisible by that amount.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
A ruler ?!!? What's that, a new invention ?
@frankherring6253
@frankherring6253 4 года назад
It’s not the size of your ruler that counts, it’s how you use it. Lol
@tombarnes1733
@tombarnes1733 4 года назад
@@frankherring6253 that's the method I've been using for years. See an old dog can be taught new tricks.......lol
@danieldibiaso9342
@danieldibiaso9342 4 года назад
Hey Russ love your triangle to find the center of a board. I took it one step further and I think it is even better now. I added a thin strip of wood about a 1/2” wider than the triangle. Leave it hanging over about a 1/4” on each side. I attached it to the 90 degree side of the triangle. I noticed you had to find a flat surface to line up the triangle. By adding the flanges you just have to tightly hold the triangle at the end of the board and mark it on both ends of the board. I made a second triangle with the flanger only on one side so if you want to mark the center of the board I spring clamped a square on the board and you can flip the triangle on both sides of the board. Keep the videos coming.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
Thanks Dan, nice idea. Glad to see I'm not the only OTB Thinker around here :>)
@chrisengstrom82011
@chrisengstrom82011 3 года назад
Cool way of doing that. I just learned a similar method yesterday. You are right, regardless of that that other guy said, the marking gage doesn’t lie.
@Rocadamis
@Rocadamis 4 года назад
This reminds me of a trick I learned as a graphic artist 30+ years ago using a ruler. Place a ruler diagonal on a space (like a board with parallel sides) with the very starting tip of the ruler aligned to the edge of the space (edge of one side of the board), then using a convenient dimension that can be easily divided in half (for example, six inches where three inches would be half) and put the mark for that dimension (6 in.) on the other end of the space. Now, just tick off the middle dimension (3 in.) on the ruler and you have the middle of the space. No need to draw a second line.
@choimdachoim9491
@choimdachoim9491 4 года назад
By the rules of Geometric Construction, your triangle method is accurate, as is your marked-stick method.
@ljgault
@ljgault 4 года назад
I love it Russ..About as accurate as possible..
@Babyjohn8170
@Babyjohn8170 3 года назад
Amazing! Thanks so much for sharing this technique with us. I will be using this technique from now on.😃👍
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 3 года назад
Thanks for the woods of encouragement, john :>)
@ashwatt2885
@ashwatt2885 4 месяца назад
Excellent, great tip, thanks very much.
@hefalump56
@hefalump56 2 года назад
Hi Russ, I love most of your videos and have been subscribed for a month or so since I found you. Most of your videos are very thought provoking like this one. I started out thinking you don't need more that one pair of parallel sides to find the centerline at 90 degrees the parallel sides and your triangle method is best for this as long as a "long side" is over half the width of the widest point between the non parallel sides. Taking this a step further, instead of a rhomboid, if you use the triangle method on a triangle, then you can bisect any angle. Food for thought or another video? Thank you for all your work in producing these videos and stirring up this old gray matter. I actually use your (and George's) simplest NMP dado gauge and am inspired by your Donkeys Ear mitre jig which will be my next jig.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 2 года назад
Thanks Kiwi, for your insight and comments. Hope you like the NMP dado gauge. I am thinking about your geometry thoughts, too :>)
@stuartscott9646
@stuartscott9646 4 года назад
There's wild guesses. There's close. Then there's close enough! Stay safe and well Russ.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
Thanks Stuart
@catfish24
@catfish24 5 месяцев назад
Great informative video thanks for posting.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the comment :>)
@MrHughes500
@MrHughes500 2 года назад
Great video. Helpful 👍
@TheWoodYogi
@TheWoodYogi 4 года назад
Nice to share these pieces of information Russ 😊 I do the same thing to find the centre on work. I can't remember who taught me it, but it works great and especially if one end of the board is wider say on a guitar fretboard where the nut end is narrower than the body end, but you still need to find the centre / center 😊 ॐ
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
I was thinking about sides not parallel and finding centerline. I had a comment from someone saying the sides had to be parallel. I don't think so. They only need to be straight edges, I think.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
Oh, BTW, good to hear from you, wasn't sure if you still were around. I am not always commenting channels, but you can bet I am watching (always)
@TheWoodYogi
@TheWoodYogi 4 года назад
@@russveinot5754 The same for me Russ 😊 I've been really busy and no time to comment much. I've got a list of your videos (and many other peoples) to scan through as they pop up in my emails. I usually only have enough time to skip through a video to grasp the idea and click like. We are all great here 😊 Take care my friend, blessings from us all here ॐ
@dabik3651
@dabik3651 Год назад
Very good idea 💡 👍
@charminglad124
@charminglad124 2 года назад
Hi there, liked your video on finding the center, using your style, could you not make a mark on the top piece (an inch from the end) and an inch past the bottom edge, matching each mark on the wood edge to create am "X" and it would also be the center??
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 2 года назад
I'm sorry, I've been thinking and reading this and honestly, you lost me.
@jameslamm9315
@jameslamm9315 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the great tip
@danalaniz7314
@danalaniz7314 Год назад
Great tip. Thanks so much.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 Год назад
Glad you liked it :>) Thanks, Dan.
@billdodson207
@billdodson207 2 года назад
I suspect your critic was confusing _accuracy_ and _precision_ - both need to be understood to get the most out of your tools and materials. As you said, your methods are _accurate_ for the level of _precision_ needed for wood/wood tools.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 2 года назад
thanks Bill
@short6691
@short6691 4 года назад
Interesting to think about. In ukulele making the fretboard is a trapezoid with non parallel sides. When you glue it on the neck it needs to be centered on the neck with the frets perpendicular to the neck axis. A technique to find the center of the fretboard would be handy. I will have to noodle on this...
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
It would be different than either of the 2 methods I have discussed here. I have to noodle too :>)
@garypeterson6114
@garypeterson6114 4 года назад
I can't provide a proof, but if the fretboard is an isosceles trapezoid with the two ends parallel and the two sides the same length this would work; The Wood Yogi pointed that out in an earlier comment as well.
@francojuan5554
@francojuan5554 3 года назад
Love it,,, you are on point... thank you..
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 3 года назад
Thanks, Franco
@DL-by8el
@DL-by8el 2 года назад
You are right. That person probably never learned to draw like we did. They now use computers.
@Wineman-g5v
@Wineman-g5v 5 месяцев назад
Good idea
@timothyhood2827
@timothyhood2827 4 года назад
Good show again! I too thought the 'inaccurate' comment was way overboard. But now that you showed this method, could you not simply use a rule and choose the 'over the edge' point appropriately (of course you need to remember correctly the where that point was as you scribe your 45s).
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 4 года назад
I agree with you, I read his comment and thought... pay attention, there will be a test. He obviously wrote before understanding.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
His comment today is interesting. I will be responding later today. stay tuned :>) thanks AK
@kirbylee57
@kirbylee57 3 года назад
I like this guy.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 3 года назад
me too :>)
@joelperigo7213
@joelperigo7213 Год назад
That was awesome
@daveudstuen4184
@daveudstuen4184 4 года назад
Hi Russ, Wondering if you have an opinion on track saws or build one. Your thoughts please.
@marcuslittle5324
@marcuslittle5324 4 года назад
Get him straight out there Russ 👍
@remoil983
@remoil983 Год назад
How does Posi-Track work on a Gran Torino, I don't know......... it just does!
@JonathanWhoever
@JonathanWhoever 4 года назад
That's was awsome. My problem is the pencil lies sometimes 😉
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
you might be using teenage pencils . . . they just think they are sharp :>)
@garyfoster3076
@garyfoster3076 4 года назад
People that argue about those things never completed sixth grade math
@Bryan-df7kc
@Bryan-df7kc 4 года назад
Thats GENIUS!!! 🤩 👍 Edit: Also subscribed!
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
Double thanks, for subbing too :>). Any questions or comments are welcomed here
@jimbowls100
@jimbowls100 4 года назад
Hi there all the way from Bonnie Scotland, Really like your channel Russ, keep up the good work, I would like to know your thoughts on a pocket hole jig I have made, not saying that this is not been thought about before although I haven’t seen it, but I like your OTB thinking style.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
Welcome to my shop and thanks, Jim, from across the pond :>) I would be very interested in your Jig. How do I see it?
@jimbowls100
@jimbowls100 4 года назад
Russ Veinot I could try to explain it but I don’t have the skill, if you have an email address I could send a photo, and some information.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 4 года назад
email would work. send to otb-thinker@cpamomy.com I usually check email in evening. looking forward to learn something new :>)
@jimbowls100
@jimbowls100 4 года назад
Russ Veinot email sent, not sure of the time difference but it’s 21:15 here, I forgot to say it started life as a “Bench Hook” stay safe.
@2326TOM
@2326TOM Год назад
so wise
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 Год назад
Thanks homie :>)
@attackscorpion5323
@attackscorpion5323 2 года назад
You’re just assuming that the corners are flush? I bet they are not
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 2 года назад
Not sure what you are referring to as "flush", Tom?
@attackscorpion5323
@attackscorpion5323 2 года назад
@@russveinot5754 Placing the scrap piece of wood on the top of the board you want to find the center off. You’re eye balling when the scrap piece of wood is flush with the edge of the board you want to find the center of, but the scrap piece of wood could not be flush. For example it could be hanging off by a few millimeters.
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 2 года назад
@@attackscorpion5323 I guess that if you can't line up a scrap piece of wood to an edge, using a ruler instead, would be out of the question :>)
@iakkatz128
@iakkatz128 4 года назад
If the average carpenter working for Chippendale had even a grade two math or could even read I'll eat my hat (I'd have to buy one - don't wear them). They didn't have measuring tapes very often either. Engineers etc. have to justify their higher incomes so they like to complicate thing or use fancy equipment when a simple stick and pencil will do. Go figure. Stay safe, stay healthy, keep your distance😊
@law35penn
@law35penn Год назад
U wonder how the ancients did all their measurements without any expensive tools. Hmmm
@bamaboy6207
@bamaboy6207 4 года назад
cant make many people understand that most everything is made or triangles where it is square or round!! lol
@reganludwig8113
@reganludwig8113 Год назад
5:25 min he is done. Rest is him liking to hear himself talk . so 4:00 min to 5:25 min people can watch
@russveinot5754
@russveinot5754 Год назад
This comment is just rude. Anymore comments like this and you will have to find someone else to pick on (I'll band you from here). BTW, have a nice day and think happy thoughts.
@ricdonato4328
@ricdonato4328 6 месяцев назад
@@russveinot5754 Yes Sir, band him. We came to learn, not read his Bovine Excrement.
@christianpetersen1782
@christianpetersen1782 4 года назад
That might be OK for a roof carpenter but not for a woodworker ‘cos you weren’t standing up straight!
@chrisengstrom82011
@chrisengstrom82011 3 года назад
I subbed simply to help you change the number. 6.66 thou subs is a horrible amount of subs. You think YT could at least give you a 10 person bump just to put you at 6.67?!
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