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@MarieAnne.
@MarieAnne. 8 месяцев назад
Using coordinate geometry: D = (0, 2a), E = (2b, 0), A = (0, 2a+2), C = (2b+4, 0) Since DF = EF, then F = midpoint of DE = ((0+2b)/2, (2a+0)/2) = (b, a) Since AG = CG, then G = midpoint of AC = ((0+2b+4)/2, (a+2+0)/2) = (b+2, a+1) x = distance between F (b,a) and G (b+2, a+1) x = √((b+2−b)² + (a+1−a)²) = √(2² + 1²) = √5
@harikatragadda
@harikatragadda 8 месяцев назад
Rotate a copy of the triangle by 180° about the center G. This makes a rectangle with a parallelogram inside, one of whose the sides is 2X, which is also the hypotenuse of the right triangle at the corner with sides 2 and 4. Hence 2X = 2√5 X = √5
@v2talk
@v2talk 8 месяцев назад
Excellent, thinking
@sauravmalik9025
@sauravmalik9025 8 месяцев назад
Bhai there is a short solution as follows Let BD= b, and BE=a so coordinates of F is ( a/2, b/2 ) . AB= b+2 and BC= a+4 so coordinates of G are ( a/2+2 , b/2+1 ) so by distace formula we get FG equal to root5
@sauravmalik9025
@sauravmalik9025 8 месяцев назад
Edited...coordinates of G corrected
@RahulKumar-id5cq
@RahulKumar-id5cq 8 месяцев назад
Yes !,but G=(a/2+1,b/2+2)
@edsznyter1437
@edsznyter1437 4 месяца назад
AD is vector (0,2), EC is vector (4,0). Average them to get vector FG is (2,1). |(2,1)| = Sqrt[5].
@rabotaakk-nw9nm
@rabotaakk-nw9nm 5 месяцев назад
BD->0, BE->0, F->B, FG - constant => AB=2, BC=4 => AC=2sqrt5 => x=BG=AC/2=sqrt5
@kuuso1675
@kuuso1675 8 месяцев назад
Roughly, if the solution is not depend on the triangle DBE, the convergence limit with BE towards zero might be also the same value.
@misterenter-iz7rz
@misterenter-iz7rz 8 месяцев назад
By coordinate method, let F=(a,b), so G=(a+2,b+1), thus FG=sqrt(2^2+1^2)=sqrt(5).😊
@erajnaseeri8330
@erajnaseeri8330 8 месяцев назад
You solved it very well
@hanswust6972
@hanswust6972 8 месяцев назад
It looked pretty difficult, thanks for the solution.
@erajnaseeri8330
@erajnaseeri8330 8 месяцев назад
Hello, please tell me which country is the source of this Olympiad question? Similar to this question was asked in Iran's math test this year
@mohammednoordesmukh3784
@mohammednoordesmukh3784 8 месяцев назад
Drop perpendiculars from F & G on AB & BC giving the horizontal & vertical distances as 'b', 'B' & 'h', 'H' respectively. Now from similarity AB=2H & DB=2h as AB-DB=2 H-h=1 Also BC=2B & BE=2b as BC-BE=4 B-b=2 But x²=(H-h) ² + (B-b)² =1²+2²= 5 or x=5^½
@jimlocke9320
@jimlocke9320 8 месяцев назад
Lengths DB and BE are not given, so the problem statement implies that the solution will be valid for all valid lengths for DB and BE. So, we choose a special case which is straightforward to solve. Let ΔABC be an isosceles right triangle with sides of length 6. Then, DB4 = 4 and BE = 2. Using coordinate geometry and making point B our origin, it is fairly straightforward to find that F is (1 , 2) and G is (3 , 3) and the distance between the two points is √((3 - 1)² + (3 - 2)² = √5. If this were a multiple choice problem, we would be done! If we try to generalize our special case, let BE = 2b and DB = 2a, as Math Booster did. then F is (b , a) and G is ((2b + 4)/2 , (2a + 2)/2) = ( (b + 2) , (a + 1)) When calculating distance, the values of b and a subtract out, leaving us with √((3 - 1)² + (3 - 2)² = √5, same as our special case.
@giuseppemalaguti435
@giuseppemalaguti435 8 месяцев назад
√5
@RobertHering-tq7bn
@RobertHering-tq7bn 8 месяцев назад
Hello, following my simplyfied and shortened way to find the answer. I used a view based on coordinates in u and v with B being (0,0). We are looking for the length x of FG. I used c as the length of BD, and this is also the value for BE. So AB has a length of c+2, and BC has a size of c+4. The lower left point F is located at (v1,u1) = (c/2,c/2). For (v2,u2) we can see the following. (c+4-u2):CG = (c+4):AC (c+4-u2) = (c+4)/2 u2 = (c+4) - (c+4)/2 u2 = (c+4)/2 v2:CG = (c+2):AC v2 = (c+2)/2 x² = ((c+4)/2 - c/2)² + ((c+2)/2 - c/2)² = 2² + 1² = 5 . Therefore, x is the square root of 5.
@harshsahu2816
@harshsahu2816 8 месяцев назад
Brother BD and BE are not equal
@harshsahu2816
@harshsahu2816 8 месяцев назад
V2,u2 is not defined by you😮, are they the cordinate of point G
@RobertHering-tq7bn
@RobertHering-tq7bn 8 месяцев назад
@@harshsahu2816 - I'm really sorry and don't remember why I thought that BD and BE have the same length. Nevertheless, BD=BE is possible and just a special case. This made it to get the same final result. Many thanks for mentioning this wrong statement, that I made!! This means, I have to change the argumention slightly. The arguments for point F are now similar to the old ones for G. And the changes for G are small, too. I leave the setting for BD = c and use BE = d now. Point F (u1,v1): (d-u1):EF = d:ED d-u1 = d:2 u1 = d - d/2 = d/2 --- v1:EF = c:ED v1 = c/2 Similar as before you get for G (u2,v2) that u2 = (d+4)/2 and v2 = (c+2)/2 . So we end up with the same differences as before. u2-u1 = (d+4)/2 - d/2 = 2 and v2-v1 = (c+2)/2 - c/2 = 1 Therefore, the stupid problem or wrong argumentation is corrected now.
@RobertHering-tq7bn
@RobertHering-tq7bn 8 месяцев назад
@@harshsahu2816 - You are right once more. I forgot to mention that it is the point G that I'm talking about.
@harshsahu2816
@harshsahu2816 8 месяцев назад
@@RobertHering-tq7bn where are you from?
@kinno1837
@kinno1837 8 месяцев назад
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