“You earned all the credits….undo the surgery….be normal again..” “Look at you….621……..you found….a friend….” I’m not crying I swear. My eyes just drank too much water
Walter, was trying to carry out his friend's dying wishes... 621 was carrying out his own friend's wishes. I think walter knew at that point, 621 chose for himself something i think walter also wished for him to do. At least that is my interpretation of events.
@@daneilfranklin Walter once said to 621 "Just trust your instinct" I have a strong feeling that he means much more with this line than just an acknowledgement of your ability.
You can definitely hear Walter's innermost struggle after Arquebus's augmentations towards him. Patrick Seitz (yes, he voiced Walter) nailed his struggle well! Walter, you were like a father to me, treating his only hound (me) like his own son. This wasn't patricide. It was to end Walter's misery and suffering. Goodbye, Handler Walter.
@@blastmole299 Yeah, we did. His agonizingly dying scream was music to our ears. We never liked that smug slug! Jon Lipow, his VA, knew how to voice a bad boss with his "reeducating" methods.
im still mad he turned us against the Red Guns, i wanted to kill him for that but he was already gone when i got the chance, shame We found our freedom, but at what cost?
the most depressing thing about the Liberator of Rubicon ending was how easy this fight was. he'd become a shell of the man he was after Arquebus's treatments, barely running on his oldest motivations and poisoned by the orders of the corporations, he still recognised you and cared for you, even being proud of you.
@@poison_byte I got wrecked by him once but was able to beat him the second time, Arquebus and by extension V.II Snail shall pay DEARLY for what they have done to him......
He’s not that easy if ur a fat built or you’re not staggering him lol I had to change to lightweight and ac spam. The stun locks he can get you in are fucking crazy
The fact that there's the possibility that it was Walter who delivered the killing blow to Rusty in this ending... makes this fight even more tragic. The sound of the C-Laser canon that Walter uses is kind of similar to sound you hear when Rusty's transmission gets cut off after the fight with Snail.
It was definitely Walter. Considering how fast the institute AC is. And it makes perfect sense that arquebus sent ALL of their assets to destroy you and the xylem.
The painful irony in Handler Walter's last words being "Look at you, 621, you found a friend" after killing your only other friend hurts as well. This ending gave us the most friends (like Rusty and Ayre and initially Carla and Chatty) but we only get to take Ayre across the finish line.
This fight was overall my favorite. The first time I fought him and died, I audibly cheered "Yes!" Because Walter was the winner, alive..safe. Then I remembered, "He's not supposed to live. He's not supposed to win" That hurt. Yes, lines like "You found a friend," and "Undo the surgery," was sad. Yet, the line that stuck with me was the death quote. "That's it for this job...621." I put my controller down snd started at the screen for a solid 6-7 minutes. His mind is broken, not broken, shattered. I wanted to let him win. The fact that his mind couldn't process what's going on, he can't comprehend the difference between reality and delusion. He switches between talking about burning the Coral and completing the legacy, and 621 to preserve himself, to fix himself and undo the surgery, to have some semblance of a normal life. I miss him. I do kinda wish he had more delusional lines. "62.. I got a job..for...you." "C-Commence..m-m-mission." "621.. Let me tell you a story.." (Death) "Head back to base..62..." "Job's done... Rest u-up, 621." "I-It's just a j-job." "621, do you...read me?"
Man, if I heard the last of your lines from Walter, I would have cried like a bitch for several minutes. Rusty's fight is emotional, but this is just straight up depressing.
No shit... Arquebus's re-education system nothing more then evil... V.II Snail as far as memory serves was the one that came up with it, makes sense due to how he sees himself as Arquebus itself, just like he says when you fight him in the Balteus v2: "You tried to kill me! Tried to kill Arquebus! I AM ARCUEBUS!!!" Egotistical and downright tyrannical to the CORE.
It’s worse. Some data logs and dialogue’s make mention of a “factory” where talented AC pilots are sent if they manage to resist re-education. It’s not specifically mentioned what happens after that, aside from them being “processed” inside, but I think its safe to assume that people who end up there get the “WH40k servitor” treatment. If you know, you know.
Thank you for making all these videos showing off missable character dialogue. I've been replaying missions trying to see what I've missed, and these have been super helpful.
@@GreyCaliber Considering canonically the arena fights are AI controlled, it makes sense. The AI isn't trying to hold back against you, but Walter is. Likewise, a good part of the other AC fights are much harder in reality than in the arena
@@Erick-tv8oq Its a classic gameplay versus lore arguement, unfortunately. I think they could have done more of a: The fight starts hard, then gets easier as Walter wrestles some sense of control like he does at the end after letting his friends dreams rest and seeing Ayre. Might have been a better compromise for both sides. I liked this fight with Rusty’s AC/Gear, regardless though.
Hearing all the voice lines i think really shows walters confliction between his desires, fighting the reducation and reluctance to fight us. I think the fight in the campain also shows this because he doesnt move that much but as people have pointed out in the arena his ac is far more aggressive because its just a simulation. Which is going to make killing him in my next playthrough all the more heartbreaking
I remember when I finished the fight and got to the cutscene I started pleading with the game I shouted something along the lines of “My AC is fast enough let me save him!” My first ending and my favorite fight in the game
Because of Walters augmentation he can now see Ayre, who is a being made of coral and Walters mission was to burn all the coral on Rubicon. thus the fires of Raven ending and this Dialogue "That voice... 621.. I see it next to you...yes... kindling for the fire"
What bummed me out the most is that they made his fight way too easier than the other two Lore wise it makes sense, but really feels like they did his character dirty considering his backstory Poor Walter, dude was never a free man to begin with.
Well it makes sense story-wise, he's barely holding on at that point even struggling to speak. Kinda like Vendrick fight in Dark Souls 2 I guess, it's not hard at all but hell does it make you feel.
I would imagine Walter definitely is desperately fighting against the brainwashing and going easy on you, considering how he basically one shotted Rusty.
idk about all of you but he was really hard for me, probably because i used pile bunker, the bazooka, and the songbirds/ice worm needles. tried to finish him off with pile bunker too
The thing is, when you compare this fight versus the FoR ending, you already had your final boss in the form of upgraded Balteus, Walter here is basically you having your Freud equivalent at the end instead.
undo the surgery...be normal again.. Walter didn't only say this to us to convice us to stop fighting against him.. he said it because he desperately wants to do that himself
Dude! Wtf! All this while I was under the assumption that, Walter got angered by your betrayal, and stole the institute HAL AC, and killed Rusty and tried to stop you. Only now, I realize, he was captured by Arquebus & Re-educated, and was promised that his surgery will be undone if he fulfills his mission? That's insane. Liberator ending is even worse than the 'Fires of Raven' ending.
