Hello everyone! Thank you for watching and commenting! I appreciate you all so much. I want to give credit where credit is due. Below you can find where I gathered the info and some of the media from for this video, as well as, a link to a book written in Finnish about Findians. REFERENCES AND CREDITS: Photography (recent pics of Findians) Credits: Meeri Kuotaniemi Video Clips of Findians Credits: Fintiaat trailer - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vmNv-piZOmo.html Meeri Koutaniemi, Katja Kettu and Maria Seppälä Ojibwe Dr. Arne Vainio Clips: www.wearehealers.org/doctor/dr-arne-vainio/ References: yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/findians__the_story_of_finns_distant_cousins/9087943 www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/2375590-finnish-pioneers-ojibwe-found-common-ground Quora.com - Is-that-true-that-relations-between-Native-Americans-and-Finnish-immigrants-were-really-peaceful-and-they-even-got-mixed-to-own-race-so-called-Findians You can find more information about this topic in the book Fintiaanien Mailla written by Katja Kettu (bestselling author), Maria Seppälä (journalist and documentary filmmaker), and Meeri Koutaniemi (photo journalist). Find their book here: www.suomalainen.com/products/fintiaanien-mailla 30 minute documentary on yle.fi (if living inside Finland viewing area, viewing prohibited in USA): areena.yle.fi/1-4616330
Is this a History Channel now? I was expecting some commentary(well, reaction or something) from Texan for this and was disappointed :( I liked the history lesson nevertheless!
"If all your wants are small, you'll have all that you want".. That is quite precisely how i was raised. My mom says "what the mind doesn't know, the heart doesn't want". Simple living has so many upsides, i don't have a lot but.. i don't really want anything. I don't want a car, i don't want a house, i don't want to gather wealth. I have almost all that i want, right here and to most eyes, it is nothing.
I'm half Native American and half Finnish too. I think you have the only video I have ever found online about people like me or hybrids. WOW! I always felt so alone growing up, only one other girl was in my class that was half Alaskan and half Swedish. We looked nothing alike but we could relate to each other. So cool to have found this video.
I'm half Finnish and half Native American. Finally found a video on hybrids like me. I can't seem to find anyone else that's part Fin and Native but my brother and myself. I subscribed to your channel. Nice to meet you.
When Finnish immigrants arrived to america they were asked where they want to go at the customs. They scratched their heads and said "minnestota?". That is why so many of them ended up to Minnesota. True story.
For non Finnish speakers rough translation would be minnes=where to and tota="Umm"(?), so put it simply its slang phrase to be bit confused, or lacking information regarding direction or place. Other translation would be minne=where to and sota=war and yes Finnish language has plenty of these double meanings.. well just like English. I wonder how its in other languages?
Being a Finn I can understand why these two communities could unite. Mostly because Finns are very close to nature, which I believe native Americans also to be.
@@dotnet9830 mother nature knows how to adjust a living being to adapt in life, as much as she can she does that. Why are African elephants bigger than Asian elephants? Why aren't there any elephants in America or Europe?
@TheColdWish You are sort of rigth, but it´s not as bad now, and also, if it gets as bad, then sisu is what you need to survive. To my knowledge, sisu is, its bad, it´s get worse, BRING it on, we will deal with it.
As an Ingrian Finn (Savo line) I feel Sisu and its assistance but unfortunately my predecessors died of alcoholism protecting their freedom of free will from sovietisation. Not sure I could do better in that situation but I’m not in that situation fortunately. I know a bit about what happens to teens in Suomi and Eesti with all that alcoholism and drug addiction but I hope Sisu will break those problems down just because Sisu is so fckng strong. A friend of mine by the surname of Mikkonen (also Russian Finn) used to be a drug addict. Nowadays he’s okay as far as I know and he was the real example for his Russian friends how to set free just being strong by Sisu logics. So maybe nowadays Finns in Suomi, Karelia or Inkerinmaa are weak as the other people are but Sisu lives inside and work as fck.
Great video! There's a Finnish community living in Thunder Bay Ontario Canada. Near Minnesota. Finns and Indigenous people get along great! Thanks so much for this great video. I really enjoyed it. I'm a Finnish person living in Canada. Love you my fellow Finns and our indigenous people! ☺💕
A relative of mine from my maternal side of the family lives in Thunder Bay! I messaged with him on Geni a couple months back. I found him by accident and it was such a wow moment to me
I'm grateful as a Finn that we were actually in good, respectful terms with the Native Americans and still are. The tragicomic part is that both of Finns and Indians were mentioned in the same sentences during the immigrant years and faced the same discrimination.
@@lofihippie No, and we can't choose the history of our origins. I neved had a problem with the Sami either. And Finns and Sami are related to some degree.
My dad is 100% Finn and drove to Alaska (from Connecticut to Florida to California to Alaska, in his late seventies...) in the early 2000s, And stopped in a bar, I think in yellow knife.. and there was a sign in the window that said "no Finns or Indians". The first time he told me about it I pictured a fancy painted ironic sign like "no Irish allowed", you see in the Irish pubs in Boston sometimes... He mentioned it again a few years later and I learned it was sharpie on cardboard
lofihippie you cant blame the mistreatment of Saami on the Finns but on the scandinavians, especially the Norwegians during the Norwegianizing years (which Finnish Kainuu/Kvens were also a target of), actually the Finns are the only country to treat the Saami well, for example evacuating Saami from the russian side to neutral Sweden so they wouldnt have to fight their own during the winter war, people will say that Finns have oppressed Sami because of the taxation of Saami during the 1600s by Finns, but what people dont know is these Finns from the Tornio region only collected these taxes for the Swedish crown, Finland wasnt even a country back then (Finland never has had an empire or independence to oppress people until 1917) and we didnt see none of that money, also that taxation that the Saami were a victim of was the exact same for Finns in the south too, you rarely see Finns talking about the effects of Swedish colonization on Finland, the cultural cleansing, the slavery, the worst famines in the history of the North (second one was caused by Swedes and the first one Sweden didnt help us but actually hid the fact that people were resulting to cannibalism in finland aka their own country back then), almost a thousand years of war on our doorstep which we had no part in starting, Sweden using us as a bread basket and buffer zone, Russification/oppression years and the Soviet invasions and partisan attacks/rapes on innocent Finns during WW2 even though we could, we just dont do it since bringing up old shit in our culture is not celebrated, btw Suomi and Saami only separated around 4000 years ago before that we have been the same forever, similar language, genetics and culture, infact i only see the Saami and the baltic finnic tribes as our only brothers in this world, i only have love towards the Saami and i feel like Finns can learn alot of our past and culture from them which was stolen from us by colonizers
As a history teacher I approve of this video. When I was still teaching I could have used it in class. It's short enough to spark a conversation or serve as an introduction to the subject matter. Good work!
Same here, guess it was obvious enough. I'm shamed to admit but my knowledge and interests have been ww2 are onwards, but i have started to get interested on earlier history. Well if i ever get a chance to visit USA Minnesota and this area in particular it is then!
There were Finns in Northern America much before that though. When Sweden installed a colony in North America, the Finns practised slash and burn agriculture (in Finnish kaskeaminen, kasken poltto) as the last European people. It's a Stone Age old method to cultivate land by burning forest, and it yields much better harvest than typical field farming, but it also needs lots of forests and labour. They brought slash and burn also into North America, and also the log house which Americans know today. In Sweden these slash and burn agriculture practising Finns are known as Forest Finns, they inhabited the Central and Northern Swedish big forests that had been uninhabited before that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn
Actually the majority of the "Swedes" in New Sweden (the Swedish colony in America) were ethnic Finns (c. 50 % of the total population after the Dutch took over the colony) - either from the Finnish half of (then) Sweden or the "Forest Finns" from Sweden proper. E.g. one of the signees of the Declaration of Independence of the USA was John Morton (originally Johan Marttinen). His great-grandfather Martti Marttinen was a Finn, who immigrated to New Sweden in 1654.
That's bullshit, finn are natural conservators.Finns like my grandfather practiced what you would call slash, and grow. Twenty years later you have more wood. Finland is one of the most forest dense countries on this planet. After all that SLASH AND BURN?
@@bo0tsy1 Slash and burn days are long gone now also in Finland. As for the forests, sure lot's of trees and forests, but alas, mostly 'domesticated' forests called "puupelto" ie. field of trees. The trees are grown rapidly and cut sooner than before, hence the wood material is not that great anymore. Good for pulp/cellulose but not for quality furniture etc.
The Finnish people's language has the same words with different meanings as the Blackfeet Nation of Montana. It's a trip man. My parents used to always talk to me about it and they thought it was interesting about them when they got married. They didn't know until one day my mother was talking to my big brother in his crib when he was a baby in her language since that's her first language. My dad's dad peeked in the baby's room and was shocked asking if she had already learned Fin. She told him that it's her language and then they started to compare words in their tongues. They were all shocked that day. Another coincidence, my dad's first language is Fin and my mom's is Blackfeet. They both didn't learn English until grade school. My dad would also say that our family where we come from in Lapland are known as the Native Fins because they live in tipis and are like the Native Americans of Finland. I've seen them on videos and tv shows and they really do remind me of a tribe that cares for reindeers. :)
Saamelaiset, known for English speakers as Sàmi people. As a Finn, I have a huge admiration for these folk. They've kept their traditions and our government shoud do more for these folk, to preserve their language and culture. Saami should be our second language in school, not swedish. Inget personligt mot mina nordiska bröder och systrar. Egentligen borde du göra detsamma, de bor i norra Sverige också. ✌
I have heard rumors that Finnish immigrants have something to do whit Native American's but now i know more about it. i never know that there be Findians. Good video, i enjoy it.
G M I didn’t know until recently! It’s so interesting to me. I’m so happy Finns and Swedes came here without prejudices and were able to get along with them
@@WildwoodVagabond Nordic indigenous people might have different, more mixed, experience and history with Sweden and Finland as well as with those populations that moved to Finland perhaps pushing more nomadic Sámi people further north.
@@WildwoodVagabond Finns and Swedes maybe get along whit Natives because they didn't feel to be superior to them and having respect by sharing same type of culture. This is intresting, i agree. And when i start to think it more, I can see that there is a hidden message for the world to learn.
As a Finnish person living in Canada. I truly love Indigenous people. We are simular in so many ways. Love and respect of nature and one love and respect for one another! Love you;our indigenous people! ☺💕
Kannattaa lukea lisää suomalais-ugrilaisista, liao sivilisaatiosta ja meidän alkuperästämme koillis-aasiassa. Sekä alkuperäisamerikkalaisilla että suomalaisilla on kahta geneettistä perimää, jota jaamme keskenämme. Ensimmäinen on ANE eli Ancient North Eurasian, ja toinen on NA eli North-Asian. Suomalaisilla ensimmäistä on noin 20% ja toista n 5-10% riippuen alueesta. Alkuperäisamerikkalaisilla on molempia enemmän, kun taas suomalaisilla on WHGtä (Western Hunter-Gatherer) enemmän.
I never knew this, I found this video very interesting. It is truly amazing to see how two different nationalities and countries came together and have a good life. Good job Rachael, seeing how your great grandmother was an indian here in Texas makes this all the more important to know family history.
There are so many similarities in culture between these two nationalities because their ancient origins are the same. Finns came to Finland and Indians to America through Bering Sea. Some continued down to South America and because of the same origin very many Finns have mesoamerican/andic dna. For example I have 2 % in my MyHeritage dna results and my daughter has 2,4. When you watch these videos you can see that this is very common. Ketsua language has very many similarities in vocabulary with Finnish language. Some Finnish workers in that area have told that they managed quite well with the locals because they understood Finnish words.
Wow nice vid. I knew about Finns getting along well with Native Americans, but I never knew they had assimilated each other and were still living as a community 😊
Did you know that Finns where not considered to be "white" by the US government until 1908? So Finnish immigrants where not eligible for citizenship before that. It wasn't due to skin color but rather it had to do with the Finnish culture being so different from other European cultures.
My mother was talking to my baby in his nursery one day and her father in law came in shocked that she had already learned Fin. My mom told him that she wasn't speaking fin, she was speaking her language - Blackfeet Native American. He told her that the words she was saying were identical to Fin words and they started to compare their language. They were shocked to find out many words were identical but just meant something else. I believe in destiny and my parents were meant to be but to this extent where both cultures were so much alike is shocking. My dad would tell me that their people were known as the Natives of Finland that were up in the Lapland area of the country. They lived in teepees and had reindeers and were darker skinned than the rest of the Fins - or their hair would turn dark as they grew older. Even though my parents were different cultures, their families had so much in common in many ways. I'm half Native and half Fin but I don't choose a side. I'm proud of both of my parents.
The same thing happened in the short lived New Sweden colony in Delaware. In the 17th century, Finland was part of Sweden, and many of the ”Swedish” settlers were really Finns, as can be seen in the place names New Vaasa and New Finland. Whoever organised the expedition realized that the Finnish slash and burn agriculture would be useful when converting pristine landscapes to farmland. Anyway, the Swedish colony and the local tribe of Leni Lenape (sp?) got along really well. They hunted and fished together, invited eachother to their saunas/sweat lodges and the children played together. Some visitor said it was hard to tell the colonists apart from the local tribe. Sadly the colony was soon taken over by the Dutch, and later the English, and a Lenapi uprising to return the Swedish governor to power was quashed brutally.
Per Sandström yup, interesting facts about alot of these forest finns taken to ”New Sweden” was that they were incarcerated for living in the Swedish forest without a permit and taken to New Sweden without their consent, and after landing the finns ran into the forests to get away from the swedes who stayed in the city center, and they completely mixed with the Lenni Lenape, interesting how finns and native americans have always got along well
Yeeess! I've been interested about this subject for awhile and read a book about findians last year. They're so cool! I wish i was one :D If someone is interested about the book its called Fintiaanien mailla.
My Grandfather was one but was Samii, indigenous people of Europe also know as the Reindeer people. The Samii have almost identical beliefs as the Natives of America. It is a good thing
Mother Finn. Her father was close to Native Americans in Ottertail County MN. He was always at their Pow Wows. The Native culture is very close in these two peoples. My DNA shows 55% Finn even a small amount of Native American. Much love for our Native American sisters and brothers. Very good vid and we should all stay in each others hearts SISU! Peace.
Ari Halttu Oh wow!! What a great idea. Thank you! It is really really sad what happened to the Native American when white man came to America. It makes me sad to think about. I’m happy to learn that the Finns and Swedes came with no prejudices and got along with them. They don’t teach the history surrounding native Americans accurately in schools here, which is very unfortunate. I’m glad you liked the video! ❤️
Thank you for this video Rachel! 🙂 I've always loved Native Americans and their cultures, and it's so cool that our little nation has blended together with theirs ❤
Always loved the history between Finns and the Native American people. From way different locations on the planet to a wonderful understanding of each other is charming !
Being part Saami part finnish this bit really touched For a long time now have been sensing this inexplicable connection to these indigenous tribes Everything starts falling into place just why..Thanks I wish to be able to meet Findians sometime, too
Leif Erickson traveled along an ancient trade route from Norway to Iceland to Greenland to Newfoundland. The existence of that route was passed on by his father and the elder Norsemen. The Mini Ice Age iced it over for a time, so it became somewhat of a legend, until warming opened it up again coincidental with Leif's lifetime, which allowed him to go back to North America. Algonquin and Sami/Suomi likely have ancient connections.
This was completely new information to me as a native Finnish. I knew lots of Finns went to Canada and States around the 1900, but never have I heard about Findians. Thank you for the video, really interesting!
I'm a first generation American and I'm proud to say I'm a McFindian. 50% Irish, 31.5% Finish, 18.5% Native (Ojibwa/Chippewa). That according to a DNA report from 23&Me. From my Father's side comes the Irish, and the Findian from my Mothers side. Both families came to the US via Sault Ste Marie Canada.
I (a Finnish Guy) Haven't really heard about findians before now, but i Have heard about The connection to nature which both native Americans and us Finns share.
helena koivisto I’m glad to hear ❤️☺️ I enjoyed making this video so much. It is about my 2 most favorite people groups. Both have endured so much and persevered
Great to find this, I had read some on Findians about a year ago. I am Finnish Karelian, born in Finland, yet have grown up since a child in the USA. I keep telling my wife I am related to Native American's some how, I keep telling her just look at the sweat lodges that some Native Americans use and the saunas that the Finns use, and my need to be in nature, hey it all makes sense to me!
I am so fascinated about the relationships between the native Indians and the Finnish immigrants in the Minnesota area. I am so grateful that the Finns respected the natives and created good relationships with them. I have tried to read all the stories in the internet but still think that there are more stories somewhere there.. So interesting.. wish the native Americans would tell more .. Thank you so much for sharing dear Vagabond;)
Thats why I find the natives as my brothers n sisters. As a karelian we was known to pratices our ways. My dads family haves root upon the year 800. My tribe is about 800 people, belong one of five families. We karelians had deep knowledge how to build, respect Ukko (The sprit of the lightning) and the elders told many stories from the old country, where we had an family tree that we prayed to protect the entire family. When an karelian goes to married, they ask an shaman (Patvaška) Leson Santeri: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k4NzFMGYahg.html
This was great, thanks Rachel! A bit funny thing... When I was a child I often played Indian games with my brothers. We built teepee in the woods near our summerhouse and we made our own bows and arrows and put some crow's feathers on our hair if we found them on a ground. And even if my brothers sometimes wanted to play cowboy games (because they got those toy revolvers and stetsons) I still wanted to be an Native American. And I have always had this thought: if we have past lives, I'm sure that I have once been a Native American.
maria kokolin That is so cool!!! I’m glad you shared that. ❤️☺️ I love Native American Indians so much. Apparently we have some Indian in our blood but I haven’t done a dna test to confirm that.
@@WildwoodVagabond Everything is fine thanks, i hope your doing well too😊 And my basement.. well, little by little.. you know.. I dont take any stress about it 😂👍
Boojoo! Kiitos paljon💙 I'm a new sub. I feel so much happiness finding your channel, feels like I'm home! *Fantastic* video, what a great job you did with the research... I'm a history and genealogy freak😁 your video was SO touching,with a hopeful message👍
Im 75% Finnish 25% Swedish and my two daughters are members of the Sault Tribe of chippewa Indians on their mother's side, French Canadian Indian. Im in the U.P.
I've been planning to visit the Great Lakes region for years now because there's so much finnish americans and finnish canadians on both sides of the border, I remember reading about the findians too somewhere. As a finn it's fun to to find areas named after Finland. Near Duluth, Minnesota for example is "Finland State Forest" and a town called Esko which is both a first name and a family name in Finland. I probably would start from Toronto or Chicago and go around Lakes Huron, Michigan and Superior on a road trip.
You will love your road trip. I'm a Finnish person living in Canada. I've done this road trip myself. Best trip of my life. Beautiful; breathtaking nature and great people. I have a place in Toronto and a farm and cottage. That's along your Trip. If you need a place to stay; free no strings attached. They need to be used anyways. Your more than welcome. Sincerely all my love Jane☺💕A Finnish Canadian ☺💕
@@WildwoodVagabond Thanks for the great video ☺ Your more than welcome; I have a house in Toronto sitting empty. Furniture and linens. Also along this trip I have a farm. Not being used and also log cabin. With Sauna of course. Finns can't live without that. Free no strings attached. Beautiful road trip. Something everyone needs to see. That way you just need to pay gas. Contact me anytime ☺📞☎📲Sincerely all my love; Jane ☺💕705 -727 -7447. The farm and cottage we're build by Finns they must be at least 100 years old or older.🏠🌲 Best Trip of my life ☺💕
Also I am a descendant of A Finnish great grandmother and an Indian great grandfather. And then my Indian/Finnish grandfather married a Finnish/Italian woman.
Thanks for this amazing clip, how have I never heard of this!! We had some family move to Minnesota back in the day from Finland and my sister married an American from MN who has some Native American ancestry. One of our greatest downfalls is alcohol, I had to laugh at that one sadly. Oh well, ei tippa tapa eikä ämpäriin huku.
Erittäin mielenkiintoista! Very interesting! I just wish I would be able to visit those areas that have Finnish heritage one day. No matter how little of it might remain... Anyway, a great video!
Yes you are Finnish. I'm a Finnish person living in Canada. There's a large Finnish community living in Thunderbay Ontario Canada. Love you our indigenous and Finnish people. We are family! 💑👪💕Welcome to our family💑👪💕
Jere Salonen My good finnish friend told me about them a while back. She is quite a bit older than me. I found it very interesting, so I started to research Findians on the internet. Yle has a short article about them. There are a few articles online too. I’m glad you liked it. ☺️❤️
That's quite interesting. Considering modern Finnish culture, much of the population has centralized in a few big cities where the connections to nature are of course somewhat removed. A national hobby seems to be having a summer cottage somewhere the woods, either with running water and electricity or some even prefer it hardcore with basically no such conveniences. In Lapland you can find some native people (Saame people, or "Sami" people in English) who predated the Finnish, Swedish, and Norwegians that later settled and divided the land. To me it seems like the Findians have most in common with them, even up to the treatment they face from the majority of the population and the general socioeconomic standards.
Actually Sami people came to Nordics roughly 5000 years ago while Nordics have been settled 10 000 - 20 000 years ago. Also no one forced them to North, they just followed their culture and means to live, meaning herding Reindeers which wasn't possible when most of Nordics became too warm and only Northern parts supported the lifestyle which is the case to this day.
I just stumbled upon this video because I’m looking into my Finnish heritage and the unique DNA. My cousin Frank in the video and that was really cool to see. BEE Bo not BIB O😊
I read the Native Americans called Finnish immigrants "sweat lodge men" because they had saunas everywhere they went. Sweat Lodge Men would also be a great name for a band 😊
im finnish and i find this video very interesting. i have always respected native americans more than any other american ppl. i love finland and i love native americans too. they are our brothers on the other side of the world!
Im originally from Thunder bay, Ontario, Canada. We have a large Finnish and native population so theres lots of Findians, even my step family is made up of Findians. Duluth, Minnesota is also our sister city.
That was very nice video. Never knew that the finns that moved there mingled with the natives. Very nice. Would be cool to visit that area one day and hear about the finnish history of the area more.
Takoja I would like to visit that area too! I heard there is even a town called Oulu and other finnish named towns in Minnesota. It would be fun to visit
Probably more than we know. I made a comment about the slash and burn agriculture (kaskeaminen) to the root of the page. But many Finns lived in forests back then still: it was an agriculture practised by burning forests. Finns inhabited also the uninhabited forests in Sweden. Not many European peoples were used to living in forests when North America was colonized. A Swedish colony of New Sweden was founded 1626 in America, and among the colonists were Finns. As slash and burn only made one harvest in North Europe and North America, rest of the year they practised hunting and fishing. Probably a few Finns were among those who first went to and settled North American big forests, hunted and practised slash and burn agriculture there, and of course met the American natives.
This was a very informative and cool video, thank you! I think Native American and Finnish relations in the olden days might make for some interesting material for a movie maybe..? Somebody, make it happen, please? :)
My theory is that North American natives migrated there during the end of the glacier period. Older pictures of Sami people look a lot like white Native Americans.
... sauna is thousands of years old invention. Finnish language can be dated back ~3500 years and is one of the oldest languages spoken today, ancient.
This is so awesome. I'm half Finn, and live on an Indian Rez for a decade and a half, and that's where I want to be! Now I know why! Thank you for this!
Nice informative video. Would like to know more about mixing finnish and indian magik, beliefs and stuff like that. In Finland we used to have rich culture in this field, but it has been drowning under industrialization but its there is still knowledge if you want it.
There are connection between Sami people and Native Indians, for example Indians have teepee Sami has kota. That is just one but there are many more. That is a good idea for a video for you to make😉
NORDIC You do know this applies to all Finno-Ugric people, right? We're all shamanistic, used to live in kotas, worshipped the representation of gods within nature etc. Finno-Ugric and Native American people both originated in North-East Asia. Some went west and others east, but even now there is common vocabulary between Finnish and Inuit even to this day.
Kiva kun tulee uusia juttuja tietoon. Elokuvissa näin eka kerran intiaaneja, sen jälkeen he ovat olleet siellä sydämessä. Siitä on aikaa noin 50 vuotta. He antavat arvon äiti maalle.
Thank you for this video. A real glimpse into how these cultural traditions overlap and how the people work together and are in all reality--one and the same.
When I was living in Denmark, I felt close connection to the people with Greenland heritage. Even their language sounded quite similar to the one spoken in Lapland (the sami language). But the most important one was the close connection to nature, even for a city-boy like me.
