@@thelahna-8747 allegedly after the Continuation war the Soviets demanded every piece of captured equipment back & when they received the full list of what the Finnish Army had *left* of the captured equipment, the Soviets tore up the list saying it was fascist propaganda & that was the end of those demands.
@keulahirviot. kuin karjalainen sanon - KYLLÄ 🤝🏻 vaikka minun esivanhemmat ovat Tverista (tulivat sinne 17 vuosisadalla), etenkin näen mitä voi tapahtua ihmisien kanssa jos he ovat muukalaiset tässä
@@Semiholmovsk77 Turpa kii. Viipuri kuuluu Suomelle, ei ryssille. Äänislinna kuuluu karjalaisille. Länsi-Karjala suomalaisille, Itä-Karjala karjalaisille. Ryssät pois. Ryssiä ei kaivata Karjalaan, ei itäiseen, ei läntiseen. Te olette vain valloittajia. Lopetakaa ryssien jatkama kaiken Karjalan miehitys! Karjala on oleva vapaa!
@@sarno494 niinhän se olis😂😂 en osaa kuvitella seurauksia mutta uskoisin että pärjättäis kaikinpuolin ihan hyvin ainakin jonki aikaa paljon paremmi verrattuna talvisotaan esim😂 mutta vaan jeesus tietää kuinka kauvan ne meijän panokset sun muut riittää saatikka miehet vihollinen on kuitenki suurvalta maa.jos nyt venäjä olisi kyseessä mut kukapa muu tänne ny yrittäis tulla
Hopefully Finland will take back all their stolen colonized lands. I am only half Finnish and I speak barely any Finnish. Still I would love to join on a march to take back Karjala. My great grandfather fought for it, I wouldn’t wish to disappoint him…
@@theman2624 Todellisuus on se että Karjalan maaseutu on päässyt rapistumaan niin pahasti ja infra on aivan surkeassa kunnossa. Vaikka saisimme kaikki maat takaisin Imatralta Petroskoihin, Suomella ei olisi varaa uudelleenrakentaa Karjalaa sellaiseen kuntoon että sen voisi oikeasti uudelleenasuttaa. Koivisto tiesi tämän jo 1990s alussa kun Jeltsin tarjosi länsi-Karjalaa takaisin Suomelle jossain neuvottelussa. Mauno ajatteli tulevaisuuteen
Yes, the population has massively been transformed in the last 100 years. It was liberated in 1941 and lost in 1944. The original population is Karelian, but the Russians have replaced them with their own, and deported people from other republics like Ukraine.
@@Apple_Testaments On. Vuoden 1985 elokuvaversio. Esikatselukuvassa vasemmalla suikka päässä Koskela (eli Risto Tuorila) Tässä versiossa Pirkka-Pekka Petelius oli Hietanen ja Pertti Koivula Lahtinen
Depends, historically speaking it has been Finno- Ugric area but Russians did build the actual city and in some point it was inhabited by Russians, during the war there were both people living in there. Today, as it is part of Karelia, it is on way to become independent.
@@duhni4551 nah i think they'll never get independence. There is now more russian people living in karelia than native karelians. And I think the few persent of native karelians that are yhere will dissappear soon.
@@svenskriddare4162 только многие карелы об этом были не особо в курсах. Кстати, шведы в своё время тоже финнов считали братским народом, а Финляндию - своей. Может, и сейчас считают также
Russian propagandists had brainwashed Petroskoy people to think Finns are going to take them as prisoners or even kill cold-bloodedly. East Karelian people were often very surprised that Finnish soldiers treated them friendly as brothers/sisters. Our people and languages (Finnish and Karelian) have shared ancestry
Liberate?From who?By the way it was never belong to republic of Finland even before the Winter War and occupying it Finland made act of agression. *As a result United Kingdom declared war on Finland on 5 December 1941 and finns lost all of their "liberated" territories in 1944. They lost not only Petrozavodsk but Vyborg which was finnish until 1940.*
Liberated from Stalin's terror and shitty communist living conditions. Besides the city would much better condition if it belonged to finland. Now it is literally falling apart because of mismanagement, same with Viipuri.
@@arima272 Petrozavodsk was not finnish.We can talk about Vyborg but in 1941 Finland crossed even the old border, occupied Russian Karelia, including Petrozavodsk (which was never belong to Duchy of Finland),put Russian population into concentration camps(even in finnish data - 25% of them died from starvation so please dont talk about communist "terror" and "conditions") , cut the railway which was used by allies to deliver Land Lease shipments. As a result UK declared war to Finland.
@@o.h2202 Putting Russian population in concentration camps and starve 25% of them to death is neither "liberation" from terror nor improving "conditions". Finnish soldiers just blocked part of the Petrozavodsk by barbed wire and put most of the city's civilian population there. At least a quarter of imprisoned civilians died by overworking, starvation, absence of proper medical aid. Finland itself was not a good place to live that times and barely overpass USSR in terms of living conditions.A lot of finns come to USSR during 30s to find a job by the way. Finland began to prosper only after the WW2 being a "pink" nation of Cold War and have a good relations with West and USSR. However even now most of the locals prefer to live in Russia in the cities with grey commie apartment blocks, rather then in wooden concentration camp where Finland will put them once again in case of another "liberation". Thank you for such kind of vaccine.Even despite USSR government tried to hush this theme after the war(because of improving relations with Finland) people remembered how you "liberated" them.
@@postgradsibstud9321 And soviets purged many of their own ethnicites like Crimean tartars. And many parts of russia are still stuck in soviet era shitty infrastructure
Well no. Petrozavodsk never was a Finnish city: it was founded as a Russian city by Peter the Great, and until 1941 it never belonged to the Finns. Thus it were Finns who captured it in 1941, then it was liberated in 1944 by the Red Army to return to its original owners.
When exactly was it "more" Finnish? As well as I aware, at least in the XX century, its Finnish population was only a small fraction, while Russians had the absoulte majority, and I doubt that it was any different in previous couple of centuries, as the city was never a part of the Grand Duchy of Finland and, as I already said, was founded by the Russians. Thus its perplexing how Finns could even lay a claim to it. Yes, it's the largest Karelian city, but "Karelian" doesn't mean "Finnish".
@@ilya634 Karelian means much more Finnish than Russian. Listen little bit of Karelian and tell me do you understand it. I myself can understand pretty much every second word. I admit that it is not even really Karelian now but Finland definetly had a reason to fight so hard for Petrozavodsk rather than for Leningrad. And why the city was renamed to Äänislinna by Finns and why many living there considered it a liberation
Suomen armeija vapautti karjalaiset ryssän ikeestä ja paraati Äänislinnasa. Toki lähtö tuli, mutta saivatpa ihmiset maistaa vapautta siellä edes kolme vuotta! KIROTUT OLKOON RYSSÄT JA MUUT SAATANAN KÄTYRIT
@@user-ce6iy2nw5o No, it was always Russian. You all have some kind of phobia that every land taken away from Russia is liberated, that's hilarious. Only the lands recaptured by the Finns in 1941 after 1939/40 war are to be considered as liberated.
@@elomial724 vepsians lived there a millenium before the russians set foot in there. First time probably after the 1500's. They inhabited all areas north, west and east of lake rybinsk and the arghangelsk by the name of bjarmians. You genocided them thought so they only live where they live today, wonder why they don't teach you that in school. yeah and all of karelia republic was mostly karelian until the wars.
