Dennis Kwan Honestly, calling Sophia an Est character is completly false since her bases are so bad that even in the beginning of the game she would probably get her ass handed to her and her growths dont make up for it
Nino is cute, storywise one of my more beloved characters. Some play through I make her into a demigoddess of death an destruction, sometimes I bench her.
I like using her to kill Sonia. One of the most satisfying things to do in FE for me. All it takes is saving all stat boosters, mega power leveling, and saving a guiding ring. Totes worth amirite?
+MrEntinen My head canon for it is that Nino finally realized her magic potential that's been repressed for her whole life by Sonia. Then after learning that Sonia killed her family, she uses her power to kill her as a sort of poetic justice. And actually, I don't think she actually kills her which fits with Nino's innocence.
Poetic justice? The girl who has lost everything in her life from birth parents to adoptive brothers/father to everything she though to be true and now she has to kill the one she has loved as her mother for last 10(?) years. That's just cruel. Have Jaffar steal her wallet and running away while you're at it
+MrEntinen But Sonia was the one who did all that shit to her. At the very least, confronting Sonia should provide some sense of justice/vindication for Nino. And Nino doesn't actually kill her
@@malikmundine1424 Though she is bit of a glass cannon with low HP and lower defense and res. Though I guess you could break The Meta rule and give her Aether instead of Glimmer, though Aether has a long cooldown so good luck with that. Besides it's her uncle that can use Nosferatu.
If I had to give a canon pairing to Nino, obviously I'd pick Jaffar over Erk (Erk would go with Serra or Priscilla), in which case, personality wise, Lugh takes after his mother while Ray takes after his father
The only issue I have with this video (which makes very good points) is that he classifies anyone that enjoys using her as a "Nino fanboy." Some people just like that archetype.
Mangs is one of those people who thinks that the hardest mode is fire emblem and that casual play is inferior. Games are made to play and have fun/relax, but the fire emblem community has people who just look down on people because of what characters they use or how they play. It's ridiculous
I'm one of the people who really enjoy farming Nino. In fact, i managed to promote her before she fought Sonia even though I didn't use any items at all.
Most of the enjoyment from using Nino comes from slowly training her up, and then watching her obliterate the 100+ enemies in Victory or Death. I got her from a Level 13 Mage, promoted at 20, to a Level 20 Sage in the same chapter because of this. The carnage was just glorious.
Uhh Mangs, about the water temple part, don't you mean Nino and her newfound giving Sonia a fatal wound? Iirc, Sonia didn't die immediately from Nino and her friends, but was left for dead by them and Nergal.
Nino, is my favorite character, because all of the crap that has happen to her. Anyway, i always train her everytime i play FE7. She always turns out better than erk or pent. Sure, i usually can't get her staff level up no more than C but i already have Serra and/or Priscilla. Nino always maxes out her Skill, Speed, Resistance, and sometimes Magic or luck by level 10 for me. I guess it's all in personal experience. I never had trouble leveling her up. To me she's always worth it unless you just want to use up time training her. All im trying to say is that she never disappointed me.
One of my recent playthroughs had me give Nino a whirl. She turned out better than I thought. Give her an A Support with Jaffar and she'll do just fine. There's also the fact that I make sure after some leveling I give her a Guiding Ring to promote her so she reaches Sage class. Her appearance in said class is a bit unique. Unique as in she doesn't have the "long hair" despite wearing the outfit. Not to mention how well it works with the boss fight against Sonia. Also used the Afa Drops on her. I know she's got good growth rates but I could've sworn I noticed an exp boost on whoever it's used it.
I'm not saying she is good. For me, she is just fun to use. Promoted to sage by the end of the chapter where you get Vaida. Those Knight and General reinforcements are delicious: 3 Plus she is story important, and gets loads of special dialogue in the final chapter.
Afa's drops aren't all that really useful to most units, since by the time you get them, most of your units (should be) very strong and very high leveled, meaning that Afa's drops may maybe increase 1 or 2 stats for the character that gets it, but for an Est character who starts at level 5 and has so much to grow, Afa's drops are perfect.
I love Nino in not just supports but combat as well. Sure she starts off very weak, but she can be a great unit if you decide to give her time (which I did in first playthrough).
My name is Nino, but im not a girl. I thought my name was a boy name only. He says Nino a lot and when I forget this is a video of a game character I feel like he's talking to me XD.
+Xsoqja Fraud It's debatable if Sara is an Est archetype unit but she's qualified to be one (and Miranda was the one considered by many as the Est in Thracia even though both Sara and Miranda has the same recruitment chapter and has low levels but high growths). It would be fun to see her spotlight tho.
Yea some people doesn't consider her as an Est since she's still very useful even after being underleveled. She's still one of the best units in the series though.
She will end up better than Erk and Pent for two reasons (if you don't get RNG screwed). One, she has better growths. Two, she is a female. Not to be sexist, but female sages in the GBA games have higher stat caps than male mages.
Alright now that Mangs got everyone's favorite green hair benchwarmer out of the way, you should cover an actually good green hair mage, like Lewyn! (or is it Levin I forget the proper translation)
Without Zephiel, Desmond would have continued a rule of bern, and possibly could have done even worse than Zephiel. And let's be honest, the fire dragon would have destroyed elibe without the help of almighty pre promote jaffar, and best est Nino.
I used Nino and Jaffar my first time playing because i wanted them to have an ending and I wanted to unlock their supports. She did come in handy though when I needed an extra stave user since I had a hard time training Priscilla and Serra my first time playing the game. XD
I actually find training Nino very easy, as the next chapter has tons of easy choke points. Just put a high defense character in front of her and she can safely hit enemies.
But if Nino and Jaffar killed Zephial, then Hellene would have no use for the Fire Emblem, not give them the location of The Shrine of Seals, leave them unable to get the legendary weapons and Nergal would be able to summon ALL THE DRAGONS dooming Elibe to rule of dragons... unless Canas comes in with a Luna tome.
Fuck the haters, I like Nino for her potential, even if I have to babysit her. The return on investment is well worth it in my opnion. I never gave a shit about turn counts because I'm also an arena user. And there's not much reward for minimizing turn counts outside of a very, very minor boost to units and bragging rights.
Eh, I like the Est Archetype, so Im cool with Nino, especially using the Mine Glitch in the chapter you recruit Vaida in. Also, any chance you could do one on Lugh the Banana Man?
You can actually get Nino to promote by the end of Sonia's chapter by surrounding her with four characters, including Lyn with a bow, Rebecca, and any reasonably evasive healer. Give Nino a few Fire and Thunder tomes, and she can potentially do damage to Sonia in that same chapter.
I use nino a lot because as mangs said I like to have fun while playing fire emblem. I think she's better than erk tho. Erk gets rng-screwed so easily..
Your right about Nino. Sure she is not the best unit and not worth investing but who cares right? You can play Fire Emblem the way you want and have fun. No can take it away from you. But don't tell that to the community though. In Heroes however, she is really great and outclasses other mages. Too good in fact that she is common in the Arena. Guess that's why she has her catchphrase "Do my best!" quote. Blazing Sword, not the best. In Heroes, complete 180 in a lot of ways. Also Julia and Sonya are great mages in Heroes as well. So I wouldn't say she outclassed them. Not by a longshot. They are tied with her.
Nice video! Also, I'd like it if you did a spotlight on Leif! I'd understand if you don't want to though, considering one of his two appearances he is the main protagonist and all, but I'd still love it.
I'm digging this series you have going here Mangs. I rarely ever leave comments or likes to videos on RU-vid.. EVER. But this spotlight series is ingenious and a joy to watch. I've spent hours going through these videos today just on these alone. Soooo... With that in mind. I request a spotlight on a character that tries his hardest to stay out of the spotlight. One of the greatest assassins in FE if not outright the greatest. I'm talking about "The Fireman" Volke!
Nino is one of my favorite units to use because as a character, I really like her and her development. THAT BEING SAID, holy hell was my last Nino trash. She had 10 magic at level 20. It was heartbreaking.
I like Nino. In one chapter (26x) she became worth it, and at lvl 15, I premoted her next chapter. I had her replace Pent, as he was too easy to use, and the relationship between her and Erk was probably my favorite in the game. If it was any other chapter, I wouldn't have used her, but 26x gives you so much experience for a bonus chapter, that if you spend it on Nino, it instantly boosts her to "best in class", although I totally understand using Pent and getting on with your life. That's exactly what I'll do on repeat playthroughs.
Nino sucks ridiculously more on Hector mode compared to Eliwood mode. In Eliwood mode she can take the Magic flank (i.e. the left side) in Valorous Roland (even on Hard Mode). Give her Fire, Elfire or Thunder, Vulnerary or Elixer, and Pure Water (or rely on the one that an enemy drops and she can get from level 5-6 to level 18. If you want give Eliwood a Guiding Ring so she can promote there. In Hector mode there is no chapter as easy to give Nino experience as that, and the system only really works if she gets at least 2 good levels up in the Battle Before Dawn, the Water Temple, or Cog of Destiny.
I say she sucks more on Hector Mode, but she still isn't particularly better than Pent except that Pent's A support is already taken by Louise where Nino can support with better options.
u know u say that Erk is better than Nino and yet Erk's growth rates are honestly pretty mediocre (how bout that 30% Luck growth), Pent on the other hand I can at the very least understand since while his growths are not much better, he at least has high enough base stats to where u can stick him there and he'll be fine. Plus he starts out with an A-Support Honestly I've played Blazing Sword plenty of times and in my experience with Hector Mode, it only took me 1 chapter of babysitting Nino before I upgraded here. From there she was on her own and with a support with Jaffar will boost her evasion quite nicely, she became a force to be reckoned with. Overall I completely disagree with the fact that Erk is a better unit with Nino. Pent I'll admit is the viable option because you get him a bit earlier and unlike Nino u don't need to baby him for him to be a solid unit, but Nino is by no means a bad unit like u claim
The Rogue Lord Erk joins in Chapter 14 and can be trained in Lyn Mode. Nino joins on chapter 28 and had shit bases. And you experience doesn’t mean shit.
meh. I find her extremely easy to train as long as you don't play too carelessley. most people's arguments to why she isn't as good as the other 2 anima users is her low con. Mage Knights fix this and giving her an added mobility would make her godlike. it really just comes down if you want to train her or not. which again, I find extremely easy. if she could promote to Mage Knight there would be any reason to use pent or erk. the only reason to use pent is because of his weapon ranks. at least that is what I think.
The reason people call Nino bad is not because of low constitution or because she's difficult to train, but because she's available for like 10 chapters. Erk is available for 25+ chapters.
those are just some of the reasons people don't like Nino. But availability really doesn't matter since she is easily to train so she is battle ready by cog of destiny and has already surpassed erk. I honestly think erk is the worst of the three. Pent having very good weapon ranks and base stats and Nino having so much potential and being able to easily achieve her max potential after her join time really makes erk only useful for the reason you mentioned. availability. that is the only thing he has over the other anima users.if you want a defensive magic user with good bases and ranks that comes with an a support already, choose pent. if you want someone who will definitely be a late game star and will be a monster on a player phase with good avoidance(despite her low con slowing her down a bit)and is pretty easy to play catch up with, choose nino. if you like erk, use erk, but he won't be as good as the others. (So yeah, that is my opinion, on Nino. sorry if I sound like a Nino fanboy, I not trying trying to argue, just stating what I think.)
I like using her. By this point you should have 2 or 3 mines to take advantage up to level her up. I give the afa's drop because at this point int the game, there really isn't anyone else to use it on.
Compare numbers to other numbers? I know why some people find that enjoyable, but if the base of the worth of a game is how much you enjoy playing it, then a unit's worth becomes very subjective. When I play fire emblem, I use only characters that I like and while sometimes that is a pain (especially because I really like the character of Rennac in FE8), it makes the challenging nature of the game more enjoyable
I found that Nino levels up without any effort at all. She quickly became one of my higher leveled characters and is a definate go-to resource for more strategicly intensive battles. Maybe that's just because of how I typicaly use her to attack from spaces where short-range weapons can't reach her; or maybe I just tend to pick her cause she's cute. Either way she's an excelent character both in story and in gameplay.
for some reason i've always enjoyed the challenge of babysitting nino and keeping her alive, it just adds a lot of necessary difficulty in the chapters after battle before dawn. So I always end up using her and she can become insanely strong, I had her cap ALL of her stats except for defense once at lvl 20/16 sage. absolutely crazy. I did give her afa's drops though
I suggest. Malis Because 90% of you scratched your heads and asked who it is. It is extra funny because you cant even tell if its a boy or a girl without looking it up
In my personal opinion, Nino is very random. With her growths being mostly 50%, she can either be good, or terrible. Her low Hp growth is a huge problem for her, as even in the late game, she will have merely average stats. Some early stat up items might help her, but for pure utility and ranking, you're better off using Pent. All you need to give Pent is an Angelic Robe and he should do fine. On Hector Mode (or Hard Mode) i'd rather give Afa's Drops to somebody like Farina.
