Fire Emblem Engage | I Found My Breaking Point | MADDENING Fell Xenologue 

Mad respect for making the call that bragging rights aren't worth continuing to slog through an experience that isn't fun for you. 👍

Tiki on Nel can kill Nil before you ever have to reach the final part of the map. simplifies the map a ton

Nel is capable of killing the cannoneer(s), and that seems to be the intention seeing as they spawn in the room she isn't supposed to leave.

Funny enough, Nel can beat the map herself with Tiki on Normal. You just need someone on healing duty and you can just hit and end turn until Nel eventually wins.

I made it through this chapter on maddening and felt very similarly to you but on the other side of the coin. I barely made it out because the RNG was kind. Then once I started chapter 6 I didn’t even bother doing it on maddening I just changed the difficulty down so I could finish. I had absolutely no desire to see what maddening had in store for the final boss.

Was there a reason you couldn't use assign decoy to stop Alear from being targeted by the cannoneers?

This is word for word what happened to me when I played this map

stupid question on this map, can you use warp ragnorok to warp nel away from nil? I know i was able to warp someone in to help nel but i was wondering if the opposite is true.

Theres a guy here on RU-vid who has a walkthrough video on how to clear that chapter in one turn. Yeah, one turn. I couldnt believe it either till I watched how he did it.....

I kinda want to see what does Tom would think of Maddening Xenologue 6.

I wouldn't have a problem with maddening xenologue if I didn't have to go through it to unlock the characters. I wanted to save it for the end of my playthrough as a last challenge, but I can't do that or I'm not gonna get to use the new units. That's kinda bs imo.

Oh man this chapter, this chapter again this is Lunatic plus of Awakening to me when it comes to RNG. For me I beat this chapter with Corrin Alear and Avoid+30 and I was relatively Gucci. But I totally understand ur pain.

I was able to do this map. My unit choices, emblem ring choices, skills, etc. will be included in this comment for your review in addition to your viewers who might be struggling with this map on the Maddening difficulty. My units were Veyle (Soren) with Magic + 4 and Hold out, Kagetsu (Eirika) with Speedtaker and Strength + 4 (He was the MVP being able to one round most of this map with Eirika's engage weapon, Siegelinde), Panette (Ike) with Axe Power 2, Alycryst (Lyn) - didn't have any skills on him but would recommend Lunar Brace + and strength boosting skill or Draconic Hex, Mauvier (Micaiah), Framme (Lucina) they were just heal bots with staff mastery skills in order to heal hp with physic, Fortify, Mend, Recover, etc. Seadall (Camilla) with Hold out and Canter, Zelkov (Corrin) with Lunar Brace + and Avoid +20, Louis (Hector) with Strength/Defense + 3 and Lifesphere, Ivy (Celica) with Draconic Hex and Divine Pulse +, and Nel (Tiki). Veyle, Kagetsu, and Panette were my main damage units. Mauvier, Framme, and sometimes Ivy were my heal bots for Alear and Nel. I warped Ivy with warp ragnarok to the room with Nel once the mage cannoneers spawned and was able to neutralize them after hitting them with bolting from Veyle in another room. I do not believe this is RNG at all. You just need to have a quick answer to those mage cannons. I killed Hortensia after debuffing her with draconic hex with Zelkov and destroyed her health bars with Panette being able to ohko post debuff. Did this guy ragequit the Fell Xenologue on Maddening? I completed the Fell Xenologue on Maddening and will share the strategy, characters, and emblem ring choices that I used for Chapter 6 of the Fell Xenologue here. I used Alear (Chrom), Panette (Edelgard), Zelestia (Marth), Nel (Tiki), Mauvier (Veronica), Seadall (Camilla), Saphir (Byleth), Ivy (Celica), Zelkov (Corrin), Veyle (Soren), Jean (Micaiah), Madeline (Ike) and Gregory (Roy). This map is very difficult. I elected to beat this map in one turn as it gets absurd when the battle drags on and Nil absorbs the corrupted royals, destroys sigils, and potentially obtains broken abilities such as Sandstorm, Grasping Void, Luna, and Sol and more health bars. My setup involved augmenting Amyr (Edelgard's engage weapon - Smash battle axe) and using Axe Power 5 and Reprisal+ on Panette, debuffing Nil with Zelkov via Draconic Hex, attacking with a fire tome with Veyle (Soren) to trigger anima focus for a -3 debuff on defense. I then used Rally+ on Alear to buff the stats of my allies most notably, Panette and then I attacked with Panette using Amyr with Poison Gambit. I danced on Panette with Seadall and cantered one space away and then attacked with Poison Gambit/Amyr again. Then, I had Mauvier engage with Veronica and used Contract in order to enable Panette to attack again. Panette had to be healed so, I engaged Jean with Micaiah and had him fully heal Panette with Physic. Panette used Raging Storm for Nil's first health bar and then attacked again using Poison Gambit/Amyr after Raging Storm enabled her to attack again. Then, I had Saphir use Goddess Dance in order to enable Panette, Seadall and Mauvier to be able to move again. Now, Panette had to be healed again, so I used physic with Gregory and moved Zelestia/Marth next to Nel (Tiki) and had Nel use Divine Blessing+ on Panette for one last heal and an extra health bar and then Panette attacked with Amyr again and got danced on by Seadall and finished off Nil with one final attack with Amyr ending my career of playing Fire Emblem Engage and enabling me to retire from this broken/unbalanced DLC for the rest of my life. I can now rest knowing that I have beaten Fire Emblem Engage's Fell Xenologue on the Maddening difficulty. I hope Titanium approves of this level of power and that it helps anyone who might be struggling with the final battles of the Fell Xenologue.

Wonder if you let Alear inherent that skill from Camilla that clears the square you are on of effects and heals you for 10hp would remove the miasma that the dragon creates from shooting Alear. Then Alear has a 10hp heal a turn, no loss to avoid/def/mdef . Also that skill that Tiki gives that heals every turn if you don't do anything is a possibility.

So here is my take on the xenolog. I think the main game is intended to be played on maddening for optimal challenge and fun. I think the xenolog is supposed to be played on hard. Hard was super fun and challenging. I totally agree that you should finish on normal for the unlocks. But hope before you make an opinion on these maps that you go back and do them on hard just for the best experience before casting final judgement. Man I watched your maddening run and was super impressed given where you are in main story I don't think I could get past ch 3. Where I am in the story I couldn't get past ch 1. You are a rock star in my book brother

Same hapend to me but i got luck and completed i feel like the devs didnt test some of this dlc map in maddening later i see a vid of 1turn this map and last map too

As someone who came to the stream… valid, honestly. Ain’t nobody got the time for this

You can actually cheese Nil with Tiki

I have a general question for everyone. How long is too long for one map, time wise. I’m finding that I’m not having nearly as much trouble and grief with Maddening FX as everyone I’m hearing so I want to know if I just have higher tolerance for long maps.

Yeah after finishing map 3 on maddening, I just did normal for the rest of the chapters :3

This map felt really unfair, I had to be very careful with my plays

in my maddening run the mage canons didn’t attack alear, I think you can easily bait them. Also i didn’t move nel from the initials 9 tiles square, not sure if that affects. A kind tip man, don’t put ike on kagetsu, kagetsu is a dodge tank, engaged that’s going to the trash.

I found chapter 5 to be substantially easier than 3. I never sniped the Wyvern. I was stuck having 2 physic users healing Alear, and later, draw fine from the mage cantoneers that spawned. The intent seems to be to have one of your healers dodge tank them so they won't attack Alear. Which was a pain. Not fun. Bad design. Especially since this makes the player rely on the enemies making sub-optimal plays and not just killing Alear. Still, the whole process was much easier than keeping Nil alive in chapter 3. Or perhaps I just got lucky and have a skewed perception based on that. Chapter 4 I managed to get through pretty smoothly by sending my army to the southeast corner and using vein of fire to force the Solm army to fight against Esulia instead of me. This ran much more smoothly than my initial attempt to go after Ivy first. Ultimately, free for alls like this are dumb. It's mainly just try to figure out the trick of getting your enemies to fight each other while you sit back and watch. Chapter 6... is a different matter entirely. I made it to the final section. Forget it. Liberation gets an upgrade to be 2 stronger than a silver sword, with a bonus +15 Mt against the final boss. Alear deals 1 damage with it. Mauvier dealt 15 with Eirika and Siegfried. I think everybody else dealt 0. I consider making it to that point to be a win. It's clear that in order to complete it, you need to either create a cheese setup, or you need to spend a load of time farming engage meter off the infinitely spawning enemies while not screwing up. Either way, not worth doing. The Xenologue as a whole is just badly designed. Chapter 6 and 3 especially. The main campaign is fantastic, and very iron man friendly. You get a continuous stream of strong new units, any weapons from fallen allies get returned to the convoy at the end of the map, there are very few unfair events in the game (such as ambush spawns) you can freely reclass to fill in for any important roles you may have lost, some roles, like Martial Master, can be fulfilled effectively by units with atrocious stats, you get to keep your Emblems, and paralogues become a risk/reward option. You can do them early for some extra exp benefit and better skills, but risk losing characters, or do them later for minimal exp gain, but low risk. I often found myself deciding whether to do a paralogue based on whether I could afford to lose a character or not.

Nice one bro, new sub here

Wait till final chapter ….

A strategy i havent seen anyone do is to warp Ragnarok nel immediately turn one. It causes all the bosses to rush you instead, then u can sit in that 2 tile wide choke point and kill them as they come. I agree tho, I'm on chapter 6 and i just dont want to do it. Id rather just beat it on normal and be done

Me who’s on chapter 3 of Hard Mode Fell Xenolouge and finding it a massive RNG slog 😢

I dropped to normal 😂

Meanwhile one person is trying a challenge run on hard without Emblems and without any skills in this map. Also only related Characters to the two royals on this map, so Hortensia, Ivy, Fogado, Timerra, their retainers and such. So no Louis or Seadall or Yunaka and these. He’s still at it currently but adamant to try and clear it like that and keeps getting farther.

This was where I was at during the stream: at the end of the day, if it isn’t fun anymore, there’s no shame in not putting yourself through it. Some people live for that kind of struggle-and that’s fine, everyone can play a game like this in whatever manner they like. Far be it from me to tell someone how they’re supposed to enjoy a game one way or another. But this is not a game like Mario Party where luck of the draw is core to the experience. To me-and by the sound of it, you-if final victory is decided purely by RNG, regardless of how skillfully you played up to that point, the frustration isn’t worth it.

I said fuck it after map 3

Don’t give up, just so you know…it’s possible to otk this map on maddening.

Respect Tom, as much as I appreciate the DLC maps each having their own spin, Maddening just goes a bit haywire with reinforcements. Be well Tom!

I don’t see why people think the fell Episodes is a waste of money it was so fun and strategic, especially this map, it took me 2 hours and it felt good after I beat it

Honestly, the Xenologue Paralogue were boring. Q: After you clear the paralogue, you get characters?

I swear the AI knows if you are progressing the map with ease, bc they wont bother to land hits and if they do, that's when you know you made a wrong move getting to nel. Kinda weird how that works, maybe just me. There's a chokehold that can take out all of the wolves with someone/Hector, once fogado starts moving, I went back to where the wolves spawn to take out the wyvern first. After I spent most of my engages to wipe out both royals. take out the cannoneer that targets alear. Nil is somewhat easier. Ch 6 maddening is tough, if you went the wrong path. But the trick is to use the rescue staves and S rank weapons they give you. Debuff nil, then it's chipping from there.