***** I did think he was female, but I thought he seemed a little masculine, and when I was reading over some of his info, I did notice he was male. ( I reviewed the characters on the Wiki before I played the game )
+Buetifull Persun Wht are you talking about man? She finds women cute and friend zones every guy she has an S Support with except Forrest who looks like a cute girl XD Also I can't believe it you're the guy from Etika's channel who used to comment "Eat Fried chicken and watermelon" XD
+Nintendo FTW23 I'm not the guy from Erika's channel I've never commented on him also my soleils stats were fucked I'm my play through so she never built any supports :(
+Nintendo FTW23 She's straight in the CANON original Japanese version, mate. Treehouse ruined all of FE: Fates, FE: Fates's basically a spin-off game with no correlation to the originals because so many characters where changed, mate. Also, she finds women cute like kittens and puppies but of course if that was in the 'Murican version then all the poor 'Homuricans would commit suicide by choking on dicks, so they just turned Soleil into a Tumblrette, Feminazi, SJWhore. I'm so pissed of right now that I can anally rape a bear! So, please accept my 100% scientific fact and never remind me of how Soleil, my fucking slutty waifu's such an piece of censorshit.
Nikki CTU I have a question: is trap an offensive term? I'm bi, but I am not a huge part of the LGBTQIAA+ community and I hear trap used a lot, but I've never heard an actual transgender person or crossdresser use it before. Just curious :)
Lyssa Tomlin it's more of an anime term, not something you'd use to discuss real people, and it's not ment to be offensive, but I'm sure there are people who aren't fans of the wording.
Tenebrio morio Thank you love :) I watch a fair amount of anime so I don't know how I missed that word being used in that context lol. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify!
Isn't this support, like, really creepy in japanese? I hear it's similar to her support with Ophelia in that she basically stalks him, and refuses to believe that he's really a boy, and actually demands he "prove it".
SuperZez That is the reason why I like this change. The original just makes Soleil sound like a jerk. I mean it would be kind of funny, but.... This one leading to them falling in love makes more sense.
"Prove it" ? Look its already weird enough that Forrest is more feminine than soleil. If she wants him to prove it does that mean she wants him to show her his eggplant ?
You should read the Japanese version. The localizers had to basically rewrite the whole chain because Japanese Soleil is a bit of a… creep, to say the least.
Sure, let's change the support from Soleil refusing to believe Forrest is a boy (and going as far as suggesting they take a bath together, so she'll know the truth) to a support about hair...and all the while keeping the support between Ophelia and Soleil intact. Logic, what is that?
+CGrascal To be honest, the Japanese support had Soleil borderline raping Forrest up until the A-support. But I agree, they should've at least kept the Virion x Libra vibe for giggles.
CGrascal I actually like this one, because it is a genuinely tender moment between them, instead of soleil acting like a creepy stalker. I don't mind stalkers, heck I like Tharja and Rhajat, I just think this one makes more sense because it gives Forrest a more sensible reason for liking her. Although I understand why people were upset. I would've also liked to see the original as well. I think it would be genuinely hilarious to see Soleil say "You're a man? show me your dick to prove it then!" However I also think that would make Soleil look like a jerk. Which in turn would make me wonder why that would end up leading to them falling in love. All in all I like the change because this conversation seems a lot more plausible love wise.
My hair is naturally very curly (and it's gotten way curlier since I've begun straightening it. I don't know how), and when I was younger I actually used to have people ask me if they could touch/brush my hair
If this doesn't confirm Soleil to be Bisexual, then I don't know what will. I hear stupid "Corrections" that she's attracted to girls, but not in *that* way. That it's based on a niche following in Japan. I call bullshit on all of it! If Nintendo wanted her to have it more of an Hobby-esque interest, than they would've explained it in some fashion. Constantly leading people on that she's gay in some way, yet say that she's not actually gay is stupid, contradictory and confusing as hell. There is no arguing this fact. Unless there is evidence to support otherwise, than she is bisexual. End of discussion.
Guess I'd best clarify, in the NA/EU translation, Soleil was changed to be 100% bisexual, aside from supports (they wouldn't go that far). In the Japanese (original) version of the game, she did have that strange "into cute-girls but not lesbian" trend which was a major character trope.
XTheBlackSoulX No, I did. It's just that there was too many things contradicting one another that it was muddying the character's entire premise. As for the Japanese trope. It might be true in the Japanese version, but I've seen people try to go against what was implied in the NA/EU version. That's why it was confusing. It was the misinformation that I was getting so riled about. Thanks for clearing it up for me. :)
This is actually something that makes me legit annoyed with the translators. I'm perfectly okay with a character being bisexual but for god's sake, don't change a character's ENTIRE personality to adjust to your whims. The S-Support conversations with Soleil primarily turned from heartfelt confessions to moronic friendzoning and them blushing while going "I just want to like, hang out with you and stuff!" I don't understand how they came up with the conclusion that anybody would be happy with it.
+AFK Cyndiquil So Forrest acknowledges the fact that he's a male he just likes wearing dresses and accessories? That's okay I suppose just think I got picked on High School for being shy and having a Geek demeanor imagine what they would do to Forrest if he was real....poor guy :/......I still think he's interesting :)
Midget Dragon Indeed! Lovely aren't they? Although..... I think it needs to be mentioned that neither of them are either of those.... Forrest is a straight cis man who crossdresses as a hobby. Soleil is.... well it is uncertain whether she is les or bi, or even straight and just loves cute girls as a hobby, but it is known for certain that the only reason why she is able to fall in love with Forrest is specifically because of his feminine appearance. If anything this conversation has a very progressive message to it, namely "true love knows no gender or barriers" If the entire LBGT movement is about allowing anyone to love anyone else, wouldn't this be something they should agree with?
AH, well. Guess I wouldn't know if there's voices or not in the supports since I turned them off, hehe. My point still stands though, I Don't really like the English VA in Fates cuz their lines get annoying and I think many of the voices don't fit the characters. Plus, I like making up the voices in my head on my own.
