One of the ladies commenting asked ' why only 1 guy fighting the fire ?' He was the only guy left and did the right thing fighting the fire from outside with the Hose Reel whilst the Breathing Apparatus Team ( which must be a minimum of 2 people ) were getting ready and getting under air . The Officer on Charge of the Pump had gone inside the pub to try and see where the fire had originated and what the layout was . the driver / pump operator had to put on his fire kit ( cant drive with it on ) , work the pump and send any Informative Messages back to Control . Once the second pump arrived operations stepped up a gear . Good job from the Fire Service and they soon knocked the fire back . What was unfortunate were the actions of some of the public . The cyclist did a good job telling the van driver what was happening , but then spoilt it by riding against oncoming traffic . Plenty of bystanders , but no one seemed to offer to direct traffic away from the scene . The van driver must have seen what was going on , but still wanted to turn right . The driver of the black car tried to drive straight on as the Firefighter was trying to open up the hydrant , but once hoses were in place they finally realised they were not going to get passed . Sorry to be critical , but a bit of forward vision and common sense from the public wouldn't have gone a miss .
Scooby1 You can tell a lot about people at scenes like this, no matter what country it’s in. Unfortunately lack of common sense seems to prevail all too often
I agree . A lack of common sense compounded by the human factor of wanting to see what is going on and trying to get a better look . Not a problem but it can sometimes hinder emergency services ( unintentionally ) and out people in danger they don't realise .
I still can't understand why in the UK working with a BA is some sort of specialism. In Holland every firefighter has to be certified for BA. It's in the basic training.
I assume they had been called for . Watching a video everything always seems to take ages when it is only a short time really . It would have been nice if someone in the crowd had perhaps used their initiative and stepped in to direct traffic and people away . I dont mean a young mother with children to keep an eye on or an old person with mobility issues , but in a crowd that size I would be surprised if there wasnt an off duty or ex military person or off duty firefighter , paramedic or cop . Another thing I noticed was the family who walked right behind and close to the second Fire appliance to cross the road . I know there was no physical barrier or tape to stop them but a bit of common sense would tell you perhaps to cross a bit further away instead of walking over hoses or where firefighters need to move quickly and could do without watching out for members of the public .
They are on the front line arresting people who are trying to stop climate protestors and of course they will be down on the beach with their buckets and spades stopping illegal immigrants from getting in
One thing I love and respect with UK Firefighting is how quick the initial attack is. In this video it's pretty much instantaneous and has a quick knock down. The US approach seems to be spend 6 minutes getting a hydrant and 2½-inch hose line in position while recklessly ventilating the building... Hosereel speed vs layflat flow. Criticisms here, both drivers could do a better job fending off- you can see it's a working job we know traffic will try to squeeze through and be a pain in the arse so fend off aggressively, close the road and create a safer working area. BA Wearers remember your lids when you dismount! We know you're about to get committed so you're holding your helmet ready to start-up but don't wander up to the building where you could catch a roof tile on your noggin or be in the blast zone. Covering jet would be nice to see too.
@@theamericanrailfan1071 theres an effect callled like a flashover or something similar, where the fire bursts outwards because there is lots of oxygen on the other side of a door for example. Flashovers are proper dangerous and can kill if not careful when venting.
@@theamericanrailfan1071 because it doesn’t actually achieve much and you have firefighters walking about on the roof with no SHACS equipment. There’s a reason the US is basically the only country that still does it.
And in the USA they would have broken all the windows and made holes in the roof so that the fire could engulf the whole building before they used any water. Just watch the USA fire videos on u tube
Stood his ground? That's not hard to do from the bloody road are you serious? No regard for life hazard that could potentially be inside. Takes zero balls to be a fireman from these parts, that is painfully clear.
@@DS-kx2vk SOPs differ from nation to nation & between agencies. To say the LFB lacks courage is absurd. Putting water in the fire ASAP is generally a good idea. They may have kept the fire contained to the front 1st floor room. (1st floor is the one above the ground floor in UK). On the other hand, your point is taken as it is imperative to conduct a primary search as soon as possible before filling the structure with smoke & steam. This is why many agencies (ie, FDNY) tend to attack structural fire from the interior whenever it's reasonably safe to do so. This results in an immediate search by the hose team of the approach to the fire area & prevents pushing fire, steam & the products of combustion farther into the building. Nice work here by the initial attack crew.
Most people are great , but there is a significant minority who view their journey as more important than anyone else's emergency . I even heard about a job where an ambulance had to block a road due to cars parked on both sides and someone was impatient as he couldnt get past . The crew were busy putting the patient on board and doing CPR , using a defib and getting IV access . there were only two of them at that point and didnt have anyone spare to move the ambulance ( which would be done as soon as they could ) .
If that had been in the USA all the windows would have been smashed and they would have been drilling holes in the roof. Meanwhile, the pub would have been an inferno 👀👀👀👀🤭🤭🤭😂😂😂😂
That whole parade of shop would have been burnt down by now had it been Yank firemen dealing with that. They would have had 12 vents in that roof but still not had water on..........
@@DasArab you weak ass limey fake firefighter...you are too scared to do any interior attack ..any fool can stand around and wash a building from the outside...have you ever heard of rekindle?
@@DasArab Lol every yank vidoe on here, its the same shit, any were else, here or aboraod, fire fighters like, hay fire, thats job for hose pipe as soon as the engine stops! Every yank fire video, engines 4 times bigger and no water till they have hooked up down the street, cut 4 holes in the roof or watch it burn to the ground, you won't generally even see a yank fire fighter with a hose in there hand in the time it takes for this video to finish and the fire to be out!
@@stevenkelly9731 You have to put em out before you worry about re-ignition! No need to go inside a dangerous structure either if you can stand on the pavment and knock things down - gain control, remember, our buildings are not made of matchsticks, so fire spread is a lot lot slower, hence blow the window out with a hose and flooding it from outside works well 90% of the time!
Sad to see this, was only in that pub on a work overnight say last february" Then we had a great fish and chips next door, Hope there is not to much damage what was a well fresh looking tidy pub,.
Please who ever is commenting have some idea of what you are saying, they do there best and they have other priorities to do first like making sure no one is inside and if there is only one person fighting the fire for a bit its better than nothing.
@@alansawyer2799 I was making a point. to a Firefighter from a different country. I am more than well aware of what is takes to deal with various types fire here in the UK after 25 years but thanks anyway..
@@@same8321 @K.sutherland Uploads Yes But Sometimes Drivers Can Be Very Stupid An They Ignore Them Becuase Its None Of There Buisness. Also Let the firemen Fight The fire instead of wasting thier time Controlling trafic...
Just as well this was in 2018 this fire, because if it has d been in 2022 that cyclist who was on the road and went against the traffic flow could have got all those vehicle owners charged for not giving the cyclist enough road space while he went against the traffic. !!!
Haha did anyone notice that the gray Van thought that they were able to get through the other way and the bystanders told them they can't go that way and to reverse back and go left.
Unlike American firefighters, British & European crews are ready to work as soon as they arrive, they don't faff about with clothing and hoses and walk about aimlessly.
@@scooby1992 however some are a bit layed back while others try to get the job done fast and safe. I don't want to start a stupid American vs. European conversation, there are always departments on both sides of the pond which are great or poor. Anyway hard to say sth general about "european" departments with all the differences between the countries. Thus the apparatus, tactics, response areas etc of a department in Germany is different compared to a department in Norway.
@@scooby1992 No some try, others do, there's a difference! Its not a take the piss out of the American thing, the American firefighters seriously need to look at the European approach, its completely different and if they ever watch you tube they will realize there not doing anything like as good in the first few minutes as pretty much any were else on the planet. Its not about haveing a pop, its about the Americans are dieing whilst there firefighters use old outdated practices and techniques.
Both engines are London DPLs right.... but can anyone tell me why the first Pump Ladder has a set of ladders on the nearside gantry, and yet the second Pump Ladder does not?
Someone has suggested to me that the first pump could well be from a single pump station, and therefore boasts a full compliment of ladders; whereas the second pump on-scene is maybe from a two pump station, and therefore doesn't carry a full set as the pump will have their compliment too. 🤷♂️ Something else I did notice was that the 2nd pump has a stem-light on the rear of the left side, like I've seen on the mark 3 Ategos. And the stem-light at the front, near the cab in front of the small ladders gantry, is indicative of LFB's mark 2s. And you can tell that the first appliance is indeed a mark 2. So it could just be that.
I have to ask, what was the guy on the pavement with the little tiny fire extinguisher trying to do, if the fire fighter next to him with the big water hose wasn’t doing much to put the fire out in the roof space out. Lol
Why do people insist on standing around thinking that they are invincible to dangers around them and where the heck were the police to stop traffic and clear pedestrians.
That's what happens when no one obeys the health and safety regulations or is not inspected on a regular basis. I know all this cos I work in a pub as a kitchen porter assistant and am trained in health and safety fire regulations.
@@johnnz4375 every dept have they own standards on how they do things u guys need to stop the bashing about the other fire depts cause we are all here to do a job and go h safely at the end of our shift 2 truck 4 trucks doesnt matter all countries are different so how can u compared
You know what , I agree he wasnt making much difference , but psychologically he feels that he has done something . I would have let him empty his extinguisher as long as he was in a reasonably safe area .
Why was the woman laughing so not funny when pubs like this go up in smoke people lose homes jobs livelihoods breweries a highly insured but they don’t pay the team who work there wilst renovations are in progress people just think it’s a business they will rebuild it but it’s not just a business it’s someone’s job and home my hart goes out to the landlord and his or her team hopefully they can recover from this
Funny With lunny...at least we were spared the usual girl saying “OMG! OMG!” over and over again while wondering why the fire department isn’t there yet, like in so many RU-vid fire videos.
An ambulance will only be sent automatically if the fire is what is known as a ' persons reported '. If it isnt they will have to request one if needed . The UK ambulance service is massively overstretched so the days of sending one just in case have gone . In the late 1980s/early 1990s an ambulance used to be sent to Automatic Fire Alarms at hospitals and care homes ( as well as the Fire Service ) , but that cant realistically be done now .
wow more people show up to watch the firemen doing their work like its some theatre show and yeah that guy with fire extngisher was hoping to achieve putting the fire out but he was failing miserably
jonroyo Fifteen seconds- that would be a world record. There are tens of thousands of fire departments in the US. Some are paid depts, most volunteer. Some are great at what they do, some are not. Everyone who watches videos like these should keep an open mind, much of what’s being done you can’t see. God speed for all the worlds fire fighters
@@davidweston6653 15 to 45 seconds is indeed a realistic time at some departments, depending on the unit and its layout. First attack would be with a attack hose reel (guess it's also known as booster hose or booster reel) while the others set up a normal attack hose, if necessary supply hose etc
Not sure where you’re from but in the UK you don’t just make entry, on arrival crews get to work plumbing hydrants and such to ensure a constant water supply from the pump before entry, and at the same time a plan of action is made by the OIC after the 360 evaluation, only then and if considered safe will BA crews enter
2:48 the BA crew go in and start the interior attack. As you witnessed, the transitional attack, using a line straight from the tank knocked a lot of the fire back and saved further spread inside. UL with some progressive FD's in North America (Such as FDNY) have been doing a lot of work on this type of fire attack. But I concede more solid building construction in Europe makes this more viable as their is less of a risk of pusing fire into voids etc.
Yes, they do, but they don’t believe in stupidity (like solo firefighters wandering into structures with no BA entry control). BA crews work in pairs always.
Oic should no better cone that road off...crew safety paramount....come on boys don't let us u.k fire fighters down by not doing the basic scene safety
@@beardmore99 actually no all... I've been in the brigade 33 yrs and worked in 2 metropolitan brigades so do your homework before you put your foot in it again
Oh Kevin I wish you was my guvnor. Not. U.k firefighters regardless of what brother Kevin says you do a great job and haven't let anyone down. Come on kevin show some support for your fellow brothers/sisters. Your watching a very small snippet of this incident and whilst I do agree crew safety is paramount I think to criticise fellow firefighters to be unacceptable and I'm sure after your 33 years of dedicated service appreciate that different brigades have different tactics and I have absolute faith that after the hydrant etc was made into that the focus would of then turned to tape of the road etc. Good job guys. I'm sure brother Kevin will be hanging his boots up soon if he hasn't already. I wish you a happy retirement sat in your armchair surrounded by barrier tape ;)
@@beardmore99 not a case of different brigades do different procedures safety is safety not ifs or buts .if anyone's injured the buck stops at the oic plain and simple .So the oic should no better and so should the pump operator who should of coned off the exit for his own safety let alone the crews safety.
Bore of Kevin. Hes getting a water supply for his muckers to help save savable property. Then promptly move onto coneing of I'm sure. If your so wound up by it I suggest you make a report to hse about it. Well done lfb. Great stop. Rather than turn into a full roof alight you managed to get this under control within 6 mins of this video. Unfortently in Kevin's brigade they are still busy filling out aras and explaining to the pub owner why his roof is fully engulfed.
