Firearms Expert Reacts to Escape From Tarkov’s Guns 

get him to do the rat cannon, the VPO hunter

Do some light machine guns? Or guns built around continuous fire and high capacity magazines

show him the workbench customization too

I'd like to hear his thoughts on the .366 Vepr. Maybe the Saiga 12 or PP-19. Obrez mosin.

Do something like MP7, Ash-12, SA-58, HK416, DT MDR, RSASS, GLOCK 18C, FN-5/7

You know he is impressed, but you also know that he’s only ever said it in an unimpressed manner

@@elijahaitaok8624 he probably went and bought it right after this was recorded. lol

@@SpaceMissile Installed it, uninstalled it.... reinstalled it... uninstalled it..

@@updlate4756 I felt this comment...

My man, you got 2 top comments. You're a goddamn giga-chad I hope you know that.

This

This2

Best comment in here

Yeah it's great because he evaluates the games as well as the guns. And honestly, I'm here for both.

Yeah This guy is awesome

You got me in the first half not gonna lie.

This is so true. The only reason this channel has views from me.

Its kind of embarrassing lol. I wonder if it would be more profitable for him to just do it on his own, get someone to edit it and then have the highest rated suggestion for a game be the next video but whatever

dude you got me, LOL

Oh, I thought you were gonna say he had L U M B A G O

what? it's dark in factory...

I use 6 flashlight In my mpx

The light of the sun will smite you

@@Ainnnnt praise the sun!

Hey you might be able to blind people :)

Right? Big respect to those who separate their jobs and expertise and games I can respect how he does secretly admire realism and accuracy though

Exactly he's not condescending like other experts (or the RU-vid "experts"), doesn't belittle them for making mistakes he realises its a game and that they make changes for gameplay

It's pretty cool that he notices little details like the ammo in the mags, still blows me away that the bullet that is rendered is the ammo in the mag, you can even inspect a mag to see what kind of ammo is in the mag if you can recognize by sight instead of unloading a round to see what ammo is in it

I wish he showed the Ash-12

@@TheDelta016 I think that's why he made the suggestion about the MP5 mag; if they've gone so far with the attention to detail already, then why not go all the way? As for the AK drum mag... well, that just looks absurd.

You are infact violating the Geneva convention for using an intrument which permanently renders a person blind.

@@nguyen-vuluu3150 uqi 141, accused of blinding an opponent in armed combat before killing him with with two bullets (m995) into the left arm and one into the head, is hereby found guilty. An importent detail for the jury´s decision was the fact that the defendant was using more flashlights than bullets.

Same.

If you don't have 2U-Kleh on every hard point, how can you replace the sun?

@@nguyen-vuluu3150 you misspelled "Geneva Suggestion"

Also a meta choice for armistice operators like yourself.

I wish you could say it to his face. I was really annoyed that he didn't bother googleing it.

@@whativelearnedthisweek4518 Yeah as "Expert" i would somehow try to google it before opening my mouth.

Well it's somewhat of a one off thing because it's made by welding a PPSH drum to a modified PM magazine (with all the quality and feed issues that might come along). It's real in the sense that exists in real life but it's a makeshift frankensteined thing not a manufactured product.

@@MustYouHaveAUsername hey, it was used in actual situation, in production or not, it's still real, it's not common because it's used in uncommon situations (large shootouts) main reason why it's not in production

Ergo suffers which is the most important stat, so kind of true.

@@casedistorted what about recoil?

@@tintschi2049 recoil decreases up/down but you get tons of sway and horrible squidgyness when it comes to getting a crosshair back on target.

@@tintschi2049 Recoil is also affected by different attachments and certain types of ammo, quite significantly actually.

The more weight on a gun the less recoil

@SharkTank the only thing I know is that they make a trip to Kalashnikov and test their guns

@SharkTank they test all their firearms in person with their companies. Also they seem to know how guns work. So yeah, they are.

@SharkTank yes they are

@SharkTank they actually test fire a lot of gun from kalashnikov. There's even a video about it

@SharkTank the lead Dev owns a kalashnikov and trains for several hours on most sundays according to him. So yes. Many are.

he is indeed a gamer

He makes a couple of misses and odd statements tbh.

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Get a load of this guy here. hur hurr there's a couple of misses an odd statements, _tbh_

@@jetstreak2786 Yeah. For instance he looks at the magazine for the MP5 and incorrectly perceives it as being modeled as a single position feed magazine, when it's not, it's accurately depicted as two position feed, the devs didn't fuck up. There's also the notion of 12-Gauge being *better* than 20-Gauge, which is just a weird thing to say, akin to saying .44 Magnum is a better cartridge than 9mm Luger, just because it has more power for a given round.

I am pretty sure that mp5 is double feed double stack instead of single feed double stack like a sten gun. I mean u can refer back to forgotten weapon as a reference since i am no firearm expert nor scholars

From that clip it seemed like it's the good ol' limbs eating up damage. Tarkov's body part HP pool system is a great idea but needs a lot of tuning. Hitting some naked scav 5 shots in the torso with a M4 very commonly leads to nothing because the HP system. Theoretically 3 shots to the chest would have killed that Scav, but what happens way too often in Tarkov is only 1 of those 5 shots hit the chest and 2 of those shots hit the stomach and 2 of those hit arms, thus making the target tank way too much damage even without armor. Albeit every time their limb gets hit they are also losing HP in other body parts, but imo Nikita has to make limbs not stop any ammo that has more than 10 penetration point and the projectile should still retain 80% of its original damage if it hits chest after penetrating limbs, or they need to make chest/stomach/head take way higher damage even if someone gets hit in the limbs or other body parts

You will be suprise how much damage the human body could take.

@@gotanon8958 well he was criticizing the fact that the guy who was getting shot was not reacting to impacts. Lack of sense of power from ur shots. He even said that yes in some instances human body can take that many rounds before dying. So there is realism in that. This game have really poor animations. Thats the issue here

Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.

This exact comment has been posted 500 times on these videos and it really makes gamers look like a bunch of sensitive loser bums. Like you'll break down if he seriously critiques something that isn't accurate even if it is a game.

​@@AR15andGOD calm down jesus

​@@AR15andGODOddly specific, but fine. People enjoy this fact because it's unusual, youtube had plenty of experts who were disinterested and shooting down any kind of disbelief because it's a videogame. Besides, it's a video about videogames - of course people will point this out. People are having fun, you won't stop it.

Haha played this game? You are part of the lore. You have your own item in the game! I found it in the power station in interchange if anyone is looking for it.

fancy seeing you here, saying you have "played the game for years", is a very understated way of saying you know this game almost inside and out

@@michaelthomas7830 thats where i found the first one ever looted in tarkov. ( the patch that dropped i said ahh fuck it and launched a player scav as soon as the servers came up.) -went interchange - spawned power, went in and two were on the multi level switch. Spent the rest of the morning trying to give them to deadly but he told me to keep them. They were in a place of honor in my stash until that wipe.

I have no where near the hours played you do, but I think part of why you, as I did as well, missed some of these intricate details is we just weren't entirely looking for them. Supreme Overlord Nikita was to busy making us question our sanity to notice

@@michaelthomas7830 Right? DS Is a founder when it comes to this game in my book!

There's videos on it

Yep, they did actually. They have a video of the sound recording process.

Not really. While both shoot 9x18 Makarov ammo, the Stechkin normally uses a 20 round double-stack mag (There is an 80 mag for the Stechkin) versus an 8 round single stack on the Makarov. No way that tall, thick Stechkin mag fits into the Makarov's mag well. Having said that, I have seen photos of a custom-built Makarov 80 round mag. It likely was made using a combination of the two magazines.

@@jarink1 This is it. They added that custom-made magazine - which only existed in very few examples IRL - pretty much "just because we can", and I think it's a pretty fun detail to add a high-capacity magazine to what's pretty much the crappiest pistol in the game. :D

Ingame-description says it is a modified PPSch-41 drum handmade

Was it meant to be used with a ballistic shield?

it's definitely a good one, I would really like to see it done for Day of Infamy as well

arma 3?

@@mastershooter64 not without mods

@@TheSaladTozzer Insurgency sandstorm would be better

Hey arent you the herobrine guy? On Minecraft pocket edition

Episode 2

**laughs in ump45**

he'd hate it lol

That is done for balance purposes. CoD MW2 had akimbo model 1887 I suggest you go check that out and learn why they nerfed it.

Insurgency Sandstorm does

It's done because that's the reality of range you get from shotguns, except slugs shot out of rifled barrels.

"GOD DAMN IT, ADD SIDE BY SIDE ROUNDS IN THE MP5 MAGS!!"

theres a drum mag in RL

@@ghostreal yes but u can't faze a stock through it.

@@corvus6178 What u mean

@@ghostreal Did you watch the part with the folding stock? Specifically where a foldable stock fazed through a RPK drum magazine? If you didn't, it's at 7 minutes in.

That would be so fucking cool!!

well there are 12 ammo types for 5.45x39 mm ammo alone, so, yeah i reckon it could

“The sheer depth” bro you’re not 43

@@Radiuhh ok?

@@Radiuhh "Bro" I reckon you're not of the age of 12 anymore, are you?

Shots 2-5 clearly hit. You can see the blood spray and the reticle being directly on target.

@@AR15andGOD It's a copypasta

Well you had best stay tuned then eh?

He has a book, published in cooperation with Ian of Forgotten Weapons, all about British bullpup rifles

He has done an hour long interview with Ian from forgotten weapons, I believe on makeshift firearms.

I know right

@@IrregularDave I would but i hate gamespot so im not going to.

Every game uses real recordings of guns. The Tarkov Difference is their acoustics, location-specific reverberation, sound decay, diffusion, and reflections are all affected by surroundings, caliber, muzzle attachments, etc.

@@OrdnanceTV not every game uses real recordings of guns i can assure you on that

@@collinweinheimer1056 Most games devs use clips other developers have created and licensed out to either public domain, or to make some extra money for the studio on the side.

A good majority, if all nowadays are real gun sounds. But you can also easily argue that they’re usually edited, and combined with other sounds to make it more “Video gamey” and “explodey”

My first year playing the game every different gun and caliber would give a legit dopamine rush. You'd shoot the gun and be so distracted by the epic popping gun sound, it's even more punchy then battlefield guns, by a mile. Now I am less distracted by the beauty and am just looking for heads to click on.

Fuck rusts gunplay is bad

@Edouard C. Roy All for the sake of balance, am I right?

@@FrodoL It's not bad perse, it's just different. The reason why it's not bad is because you can literally get good at it. It's like saying cs gunplay is bad because of the recoil system. It's all skill based so i don't see the issue with it.

@@danny7694 my problem is that there sort of is like 6 or so guns that are used (revo, db, sar, tommy, mp5, ak) and the rest are only used for certain things like gambling scrap for an m9 or p2 of you ran out of springs

@@M4x.1520 Yeh I mean that's the case for most videogames though, there'll always be a meta, I am glad that in rust certain guns fill certain niches still. In most games you won't even see 4/5th of the guns they have in the game you know.

Stop scav on scav violence

thats when you have a sidefolding stock with a dovetail mounted scope or rail mount

Nut you can fold stock and then put those on

This was recorded in the latest patch for what it's worth.

There is a bug where you can still put a rubber/pso on top of an ak/svd when it's folded. They also need to adress that. Sometimes it's visually unfolded but takes inventory space of a folded gun. Even managed to glitch out my aks-74un. It's folded in game, takes less inventory space, has a dovetail cobra, rubber butstock and has the same recoil as unfolded gun.

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I know. It must be hard for game designers to get something like this spot on, but I still had a little grimace on my face when the stock clipped through the drum, given how rare it is to see a game implement the AK47s folding stock action at all.

@@peterclarke7240 iirc stocks cannot be folded anymore if attachments would block it, ie sidemounted sights for sidefolder ak's, not too sure about the drummag and underfolder tho but they are working on it

@@peterclarke7240 well you cant fold sidefolding stocks when you put a rubber stockbumper (or whatever its called again,) on ak-74m’s also the svd doesnt fold when you put a sight mount on it too, so im certain this either is foxed already or will be fixed soon enough

you can see it clip through the players arm too.

Can u give timestamp?

why run basic guns if you put atleast 4 sights on it....

@@metanumia is it bad that i actually understand this?

@@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 probably, I didn't understand a thing

@@ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 explain, I'm still trying to solve this Rebus

@@bluecaptainIT so the chad which are the yellow face emojis leaves home to the city, and catches a flight to someshere in the middle east(🕌 this isn't specific enough). It might be a holiday or vacation as the chad is on the road. The chad hears gunshots and gradually starts to freak out, the chad is terrified before he is shot and killed.

i just recommended it, but yeah i 1+ since i didn't see this comment

I also was looking for a comment like this because i agree aswell, definitely a great mix of realism and fun

i just wanted to comment this :D

Post scripum would also be an amazing game for him to check out. Their sound design is top notch

I want him to see squad for that exact reason. Insurgency has decent audio design but squad is miles better and easily the best shooter sound design out there right now.

Because that drum mag is a real thing, and because they can.

@@fokka6010 If you can't make meme guns with 15 flashlights or lasers than why even bother?

@@56bturn ah, yes. 15 flashlights. The walking flashbang.

Amazingly, It actually is a real thing. If you look up the 80rd Makarov PM drum? They do exist and TheFirearmBlog has an article about them. There's also a Reddit post on the ForgottenWeapons subreddit about these, and they're apparently designed for Russian police/SWAT team officers who are using ballistic/riot shields and a sidearm, which makes sense since trying to reload while carrying a ballistic shield can get you killed. In the 1990s and 2000s, Russia was dealing with an economic disaster from the collapse of the USSR which generated a huge increase in crime (both lone wolf criminals and organized gangs/groups like the Russian Mafia) and terrorism. However many police departments couldn't afford to arm all their officers with nice modern carbines/SMGs like the AKS-74u or 9A91 or a PP-19 Bizon. Even to this day, Makarov pistols are still very common to see in police use since they're compact, are battle proven, and they have trained with them for years and years, so there's that familiarity. There's also a machine pistol closely related to the Makarov called the APS Stechkin, it's a full auto machine pistol with a C96 Mauser Broomhandle style wooden stock that doubles as a holster, there's also a variant called the APB Stechkin that is equipped with a folding wire stock and a quick detach silencer. The APS uses a 20rd magazine that looks like an extended Makarov mag, I wonder if the drum could be used on the Stechkin, that would make a LOT more sense. While it's heavy, bulky, and likely is prone to feeding issues, as a niche/special purpose tool for close quarters combat and counter terrorism that's cheaper than equipping officers with brand new carbines/SMGs? I could see the premise behind it. I don't know if these were ever used, but apparently these were made in very small numbers for law enforcement officers carrying ballistic/riot shields. TLDR Yes they exist, produced in very small numbers for cops/SWAT/counter terrorism officers using ballistic shields and a sidearm in one hand.

@@keithm5378 but why do you need 80 rounds in a pistol?

Oh yeah, trying to hit that rpg on a flying heli is hard.

@@vitaliyred622 Well I took out several helis with just a regular Mosin Nagant since I can never get the RPG class in time.

I'd like to see him react to changing an overheated barrel on an mg42.

I'd like to see him react to RS2 buckshot sniping

Also Killing Floor 2. Tripwire knows it.

Project reality and squad

Sandstorm is so wanky with guns

@@Nick-hm9rh i dont think anything is wrong with sandstorms guns

It happened

There is a video about it now.

OOOOOOOOHHH the Ash-12, best sounding gun in the game IMO. Would love to hear what he has to say about the TT or even the golden TT that Reshala(?) drops

Imo I own and play both squad and tarkov the gunplay is fairly realistic in Squad but Tarkov's is the king just in terms of realism, recoil, ammunition types etc.

@@rebel4029 Tarkov is good for survival/gun type realism. Squad is better for the whole military firefight experience as a whole

@@RealDovamo it is when people actually decide to use there mic and cooperate with there SL

@@rebel4029 yes that's the main issue, some servers are just full of dudes running around not even doing the objective with hardbass playing through the proximity voice channel and the actual servers that are really serious are either full all the time or empty.

@@Tacticaviator7 exactly my problem I have about 250 hours as SL and even though my squad will be named MIC ONLY I got people without them or imbeciles.

Get MDR's and other weapons that doesn't require modding at all, just slap a sight on an MDR and you're good to go

@@IckbobTheAwesome Literally why the RFB is my favorite lol. I don't care really for flashlights or lasers on my gun, so it's a simple cannon to me. The 762x51 guns are just scary

They really aren't rare, it was invented for police and swat in russia, and they don't export them. It's not surprising a Brit wouldn't know. Bolt action shotguns are also hugely popular in russia, and are only more uncommon outside of there

@Lind_Koda331_337. yes, and in a game that takes place in Russia, it would make sense for there to be more bolt shotguns

@Lind_Koda331_337. doesnt that seem dumb to you the restrictions i mean

@@Dusk3e До этого видео я вообще не знал что есть дробовики такого типа.

@@steelbear2063 bolt action shotguns were popular budget weapons in the 1950-60's in the US, around the same time in russia the soviets were making the MTs 20 series which would later evolve into the modern day toz-106

exactly what I'm saying

They missed some cool weapons like the the suppresed M870

The stechkin is a double stacked mag, while makarov is single stacked. Experimental makarov drums were made in russia. They hold 80 rnds, and pics can be found on the internet.

@@Yku30 . correct. The drum mags were for the single stacked makArovs though

Khyber pass I’m guessing???

@@slavsupreme5129 I wouldn't be surprised if that was true. Their AK's are top quality though.

@@slavsupreme5129 there's a character in game named Mechanic, a local gunsmith, who among other things built PM drum mag (by combining factory mag with a PPSH-41 drum), sniper version of sawn off Mosin and even AP round for smoothbore .366 TKM caliber

@@redacted5937 No I heard it was made in house by some soviet "swat" team for use with ballistic shields in cqb

Yes please

The sounds mainly because the ly use the actual sounds of the guns.

@@justbrowsing4925 plenty of games record sounds and still fuck it up. Tarkov does it all so good. If they could just actually optimize the game they'd be golden

Everything except for the gameplay. The gun interactions with players are laughable. The damage effects are visibly non-existent and far too weak, and the death animations are hilariously over the top.

@@commodore92 tbh game runs 60fps at 1440p on a 1060 6gb and i7 4770 for me. Shadows to minimum, textures on high. TAA I think. Minimal stutters/hitches, overall smooth. IDK where people get problems, my pc is 5 years outdated and still on ddr3 ram lmao.

@@Sun-Tzu- you've obviously never actually played the game because it's by far the most realistic shooter made to date (and it's still in Beta). Unfortunately, this video was set-up by someone newer to the game. They didn't really use good examples. He wasn't ever even playing real people these were just little offline games against AI turned all the way down. Would be interesting for him to watch some real gameplay with players using META weapons.

"It's climbing too much!"

As well as weapon skills. The more you use a certain type of gun the better you get with it. And with the AK-101-104 series some of them are actually pretty hard to get so no surprises someone firing a basically stock AK-101 would be all over the place. Weapons mastering matter BIG TIME in tarkov.

When set to fully automatic, when holding down fire the gun initially jumps up, but comes close to re-centering itself after a few bullets, like it's trying to replicate initial recoil and the shooters compensation for it.

the game is a bit weird with recoil, shakes your camera around real bad as well

@@walouinsanityshed I think that's to simulate the loss of control while firing in full auto. I have a hard time imagining every PMC has had 100 hours at the shooting range with every gun in the game :)

@@IckbobTheAwesome Nah, I bet every singel PMC probably got atleast 100 hours on a shooting range. I mean, they are soldiers in a private military company. Scavs on the other hand...

The recoil is more to do with the game being an mmo, they purposely have the recoil set this way for "balance". I do agree though the recoil on some guns can be way to much sometimes and can be frustrating.

@@IckbobTheAwesome recoil is under or over represented in most games. Handgun recoil is almost always under represented and rifle and smg recoil is almost always exaggerated.

I think in the gun in Tarkov was shooting slugs as well.

you can get 600 meter shotgun kills in Tarkov if you use the correct ammo lol

It's a ks-23... stuffs op

@@kallumander Its absolute maximum. I had a troble with max accuracy shootgun using superperfomance to kill a scav from 300m

@@kallumander ap 20 ammo yeahh

general sam is too powerful and must be contained to not spread to a wider audience

@@ratling9000 just because you said that now I have to be a fan of him lol

It’s 556 like wtf

@@youngnarmer1k82 I thought it was 7.62

@@ffandrewd2986 The AK-47 uses 7.62, but as he mentions this is an AK-101 which uses 5.56. Combine that with a muzzle brake and you won't see much in terms of climb.

Burger

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Or he was hit in the arms. But yeah I think him calling it a nerd gun was dumb

He didn't react much or at all to the first hits though. No flinch, no pain, not even sprinting for cover. He just keeps slow walking around, its only once he gets hit lethally that there's any real reaction. Hence the nerf gun comment. To be fair though, for the most part scav AI in tarkov is really good and they react more dynamically to various situations than most games and rarely just stand there like morons when taking fire. Also most of the hits where to the limbs, a chest shot would have had more effect. Still, not the most flattering example of AI being shot in tarkov.

Yeah, I think the player was using a optic zeroed to like 100m at less than a quarter of that distance, so it's possible that several of the shots (especially the early ones) went high over the target, which would also explain why the ones aimed for centre mass were more effective.

@@BraindeadCRY They will probably add better animations in the final release, which I believe drops tomorrow

Nah the M4 just hits like a nerf gun in the game for some reason

As my friend from the Marines once said: "If you can attach it to a gun, then it's Gods will"

Im pretty sure the game states that the makarov drum is a wacky creation by merging a ppsh drum with a makarov magazine.. never made in any production quantity but appearantly theyre easy to make

@@koekiejam18 . makarov drum mags exist in russia. Spetnaz experimented with them. U can find pics on the internet of them in use.

@@mikemeyer4800 i know, but according to the game they have never been produced in any serious quantity

Brandon Herrera: *drinks Vodka* IVAN, WORK TO DO.