@@domgray6448 I guess you never shot a K-98 mauser (only considered the greatest bolt action ever built and all modern bolt rifles copy) in 8mm or a 303 Lee Enfield or a Swedish mauser in 6.5 x 55 and of course that 7.62 x 54 mosin Out performs the greatest caliber ever made that is responsible for Americans winning 2 world wars and numerous others. And has taken game animals of every size on every continent. All major gun manufacturers still chance guns for the grand daddy of them all the very 🇺🇸 30/06 and the 1903 A1/03 bolt action rifle based on the mauser action. Yep the Commi Mosin is better lmao
thanks, its great to know that you guys really pay attention to the people who watch your videos, especially for someone like me, who doesn't know a whole heck of a lot about firearms.
i own the Remington 710 in a .270. and i love it! had it for 3 years now and I've shot at 5 deer and dropped all 5. shot a doe 347 yards away and dropped it on the spot . great rifle for the price.
Everybody should leave ray alone. Can you not appreciate a soft spoken man? He may be my favorite on the channel. He is respectful and knowledgable. A combination you rarely see. And try guessing how a mic picks you up when you dont use them often.
Winchester model 94 30-30 that's the best hunting rifle shot my first doe and dropped it right there a few days ago, my dad, my grandpa, my great grandpa and my great great grandpa have had no problems with the model 94!!
KPG that’s the classic saying of “ Go where you know” if it works, why replace it! My dad died when I was four and I got his dads war rifles from ww1. It’s a Spandau Gew. I don’t shoot it though it stays in the case. I’ve never shot a deer and I’m 27. I’m going this fall to get some meat. Wish me luck guys. I’m going with my stepdad who pretty much raised me. I call him dad. I want to make him proud. I grew up on a horse ranch and played football through college so I never had much time or any opportunities to go.
i myself own a 710, chambered in .270win and it is a wonderful shooter for the price, ive used it the last 2 years for whitetail hunting in Wisconsin and have never had an issue with it. works great and for the price ya gotta love it.
I have the 710, when I got my hunting license my grandfather brought me to Walmart to get a hunting rifle and we picked that out, its a 243. Winchester. It may be an affordable gun but I love it.
Just bought myself a Marlin XL7 and I'm thrilled with it. Stainless model (XL7S) in .30-06 for $350 brand new. I was thinking Ruger American until a friend brought the Marlins to my attention. Fantastic gun for the price!
I have a Winchester Ranger chambered in 30-06 and its a great rifle! The ranger is essentially a budget version of the Winchester model 70, and for the money, the ranger can't be beaten. Bolt is smooth as silk, has a nice trigger, accurate, and I paid $375 at a gun show. Definitely all the rifles mentioned here are great for the money and to start off with. Great vid guys!
I have the savage edge xp in 30-06 (now the axis). This rifle with federal powershok 180 grain will keyhole shots at 100yards standing offhand! Love that rifle and glad to see you include it. Big fan of yall and am planning on stopping into your shop when I move back to GA after I get out of the USMC. ...but until Ray gets over being camera shy, put Barry back on! Ya'll keep up the great work! Love your vids!
I own a Rem 710 in .30-06, while it is clearly cheaply made, it is still very accurate. Mine was bought for me as a christmas preset about 10 years ago and is still going strong except for one minor issue. The bolt stop release chipped and the bolt can be pulled out if you pull too hard. It was only $150 new (bought from a friend that won it at a gun show) and has delivered hundreds of pounds of meat to the table paying for itself MANY times over.
Lordy people. A long time ago, just after the advent of the centerfire cartridge, they came up with a crazy invention called a "volume slider". This interesting and unbelievably high-tech gizmo allows people to adjust the volume on stuff. Amazing! I give it a 9.5 out of 10, with a .5 deduction because of the lack of advertising which would explain why so many folks don't use it. Great video.
As soon as the video started I was waiting for you to hit the Mosin Nagant. Love those guns. Cheap and rugged and cheap ammo for such an amazing cartridge. Most people don't realize all the neat things you can do with those.
The nice thing about these budget model guns is the detachable magazines that are not on higher end guns. This allows for legal walking in the woods before daylight with a loaded magazine ready to slap in the gun so happen you come across a deer. An old style bolt gun you cannot have loaded before daylight in some places, it would be hard to push in a few rounds in the dark and then pull the gun up in low light. I don't advocate bending hunting rules, i'm just saying though.
Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_ my dad has a model 70 Winchester and he runs into that problem sometimes. I'm looking at getting the Savage Axis or Axis II and that magazine will be real handy.
i have a model 710 in 7mm mag and i really like it,I bought it brand new a couple years ago and all i did was add different optics and a nice sling and swivel bipod and it works great for my bear all the way down to my deer hunting and inbetween stuff
Searched cheap deer rifles and your vid came up first. Don't know why i didn't come to your channel first, I've been a subscribed fan for awhile now. Keep up the good work.
I had a Remington 710 when they first came out around 2000. That rifle for what it was was the best out of the box budget shooter I have ever fired. The bolt wasn't very smooth and the scope was a crappy Bushnell, but I could shoot 3-shot clovers at 100yds all day. I couldn't believe that it would shoot .5" groups.
If it's still in production, I"d suggest the Stevens 200, which is essentially a Savage 110 without a detachable magazine or Accutrigger. They're just a bit over $300, and I've greatly enjoyed two in .223 and .308. Aside from the plain stock and finish they seem just as good as the higher end bolt guns.
When I saw the title, I knew there had to be a Mosin on the list. Eric, you were one of the ones to get me interested in Mosins, and I have bought several this year. Mosins are addictive like a Lays potato chip, you can't have just one!
exactly. For example i have a mossberg 20 gauge and a rossi combo 22/410 and the 410 kicks harder than my 20 gauge because the 410 is extremely lightweight and no recoil pad. the mosin nagant isnt bad at all though because its so heavy. I took apart one of the mosin rounds and a 12ga round and the mosin has more powder, but the gun is about 9 pounds and front heavy so the recoil isnt too bad even without a pad on it
In some states the single shot rifles like the H&R/New England in 45/70 is legal for black powder season. You can use it with black powder rounds and then switch to smokeless loads for the regular season.
yes you can either mount further down the barrel ( long eye relief/scout style) or get a rail and bent bolt system and mount it above the bolt. i have a vid on my channel show the latter one
Be it pistol, rifle, shotgun, semi auto or bolt, six shot or high-cap, the choice is yours. Whatever you choose, practice with it, become familiar with it, learn how to take it down and make repairs or clean (maintenance). The choice you make, get the ammo for it, learn how to reload that ammo and have the smarts and the nads to do it. This is all good stuff and I love these guys amongst others. You have to have the desire and will to check this stuff out for yourself. Good Luck!! Dave
You are right the .410 is a caliber, however the 10,12,16,20,and 28 gauge terms come from the number of lead balls that it would take to add up to 1 pound. So if you took twelve lead balls the same size as the diameter of the barrel it would add up to 1 pound.
a couple weeks ago i was able to pick up a new savage model 11 in 308 with a nikon 3x9x40 bdc redical scope for 500$. when i broke the price down it came out to the rifle being about 350$ and the scope being 150$ so i think that is a pretty good deal for a new rifle. too bad they didnt come in wood. im thinkin about getting another mosin and making something similar to your fugly rifles later on down the road. keep up the great videos, really enjoying them!
I have 2 savage rifles. I wanted the accutrigger but when I went to purchase them, no accu triggers were in stock & I didn't want to wait. After shooting my buddy's with the accutrigger I wish I had waited. That thing is SWEEEET!
it depends where you buy them. i got mine for $117 including 2 sets of ammo pouches. the bayonet. a tool bag with cleaning tools. an oil container. and the sling
I'm surprised you didn't bring up how crisp the trigger is on the 770. I won a 770 in 30-06 last year and was a little disappointed at first because I prefer pump-action firearms, but after sighting it in and feeling how crisp the trigger is I'm considering making it my primary hunting rifle. if any of you are wondering, the trigger is heavier than my Rem 7600 30-06 but has an extremely short pull. I wish I bought a 770 as my first hunting rifle, but then again I'd have two seems I won this one
Had a 710 in 30-06...geat gun, 1" groups at 100 yds all day long. The action was a little "stiff" but otherwise I loved it. Had the H&R (NEF) in .243 too, great shooter. Also have a Stevens 200 in 22-250 (can't believe you missed them) that out-shoots my Remington 700. 1/2" or less groups at 100 yards. Paid $260 out the door for it. You covered most everything I have or have had including my own "fugly" Mosin. Nice Job Guys!!!
I really like the savage I bought a 110 and installed a timney trigger, that was before they came with the adjustable factory trigger. A fantastic rifle for the money I've heard plenty of good things about the axis, and would buy one in a different caliber than I have now.
I pick up a mosin for $90, one problem it sucks in a tree stand, a real pain to load and unload, so i picked up a m38 for around $200, all the power of a mosin without the length of the 91/30, much more handy in the brush and stand.
The 8mm yugo Mauser is a great choice for a hunting rifle at costs of less than $300. And there is a huge selection of hunting loads plus cheap surplus fmj for killin time at the range.
my favorite little brush gun is a single shot survivor rifle in 308, man that thing cuts bullet holes at 100yds. a little heavy but its short and handy.
I would add the Ruger American if it were my list. My experience with the Rossi Trifecta with the .243 barrel is that it is finicky with ammo and tension of sling stud and it prefers light bullets. I see lots of hunters with mosins walking around WMA here in GA. Seems to serve many very well and the price can't be beat.
I had a 770 with the scope from Wally World. Set it up on a bench rest to zero the scope. Shot 10 rounds and they were all over the target. I didn't bother to send it in, just sold it.
Did you forget the Ruger American? It was nice seeing Ray. Maybe one day a round table talk with everyone would be a great vid. You can pick the subjects.
Beautiful gun and I can't wait to get my first. I have been through the CMP Armory in Ohio and its a sight to see 500+ Garands side by side. Keep in mind you need to bring specific documents to purchase at the armory. Check before you go but I believe they are proof of citizenship, proof of gun handling (hunting license, military, LEO) and a "club" that is associated with CMP. Their website lists the clubs but they can also sign you up on site with a membership. You know what you get w/CMP
9130 or M44, both are bad-ass budget rifles, but get one now as the price is nearly double as I paid for mine two years ago and I figure will keep going up as the surplus supply starts drying up
Not really looking into hunting at this time, just wanted to see you guys talk about different types of guns. My father might purchase a bolt action rifle in the future for range shooting.
i shot my uncle's custom 10/22 (Tactical Solutions .920 Bull Barrel and Hogue Overmold stock with and small 3-9 x 40 leupold scope) and i was shooting one hole 10 rd groups at 75 yards from bench. with that kit you could prob get out to 125 or maybe 150 with sub MOA accuracy.
Video suggestion: recent price increase in rifle ammo (last 6 months or so). 308 is a very good example. I can't find the 42c/round 308 DAG I could a year ago.
Most of those guns could do 1"-2" MOA. you could double the price and get a higher end version and maybe get sub MOA's, but most people cant even shoot that well! lol. Great vid guys!
You should really read the manual that comes with the firearm, as it usually details the warranty and what it covers. But it never hurts to give them a call and see if there's anything they can do for you. If they value their customers, they'll be forthright and honest with you. More and more companies nowadays attach a limited lifetime warranty to the gun, even if you're not the first owner. PWS and LWRC are good examples of this.
howa and weatherby both make economy lines as well, shot the axis and vanguard personally, .300wm no complaints, nef .223 was great had to take a bur off loading chamber (look it up) 770 chambered .243 does get the job done but no adjustable trigger :(, after 60ish rds, firing pin unscrewed itself, and after several trips out, the screws stripped out of the buttstock (all within 1.5 years of target/deer/coming shooting), very very rough action, only plus I have is the adjustable stock for youth model (can be found with other manufacturers)
i'd say its perfect for white tail deer. even perfect for lighter game. never tried it on a rabbit but i'd def get a 22 for that. just check with your state, depending on where you are, some states dont offer rifle hunting (for deer) - some only offer blackpowder, bow, and shotgun. one of these states is NJ, and last I checked MA too. typically its the northeast states, so if your in the south you have a better chance.
Eric, could you please do video(s) about some extremely expensive firearms if you ever get the chance? Budget options are great, but things like the Sako TRG-42 are just awesome.
I own both the Mosin Nagant 91/30 and Savage Axis .308 rifles. Happy with the performance of both rifles, but I prefer the Savage due to the detachable magazine and the option of attaching a bi-pod to it. Briefly owned the Remington 770. Hated the rough bolt action even after a good cleaning along with the cheaply made stock. Never fired it and promptly returned it. Couldn't safely secure attach a bi-pod to it like I can with the Savage. Remington needs to re-engineer their 770.
The 710 has a polymer receiver with a hydraulically pressed in barrel as well a polymer bolt using a steel bolt head. The bolt lugs lock into the barrel so no pressure is put on bolt or receiver. The 770 is the same deal with a cast pot metal receiver. having said that I had a 710 in 270 that would shoot half moa with hand loaded sierra 100 grain hp. To put it in perspective the conventionally designed savage edge in 308 would not shoot 1 moa.matter what ammo.
I picked up one of those remington 710's once upon a time chambered in .270 winchester just on a whim. It's ugly, it feels weird to hold, the bolt feels like it has sand in it when working it, but it is the most accurate rifle that I own. It will consistantly shoot three round groups cloverleafed at 100 yards, all for the enitre package scope and all for for $230.00.
Wow. I have visited the Knight website. They are proper muzzle loaders unlike the TCs with their fancy pelleted powder. They don't appear to make the centre fire rifle any more only parts.
My thoughts on hunting rifles are buy the caliber in which you plan to buy your main battle rifle in. If you prefer an AK get a .308, if you prefer an AR get a .223. It will make stocking ammo that much easier. But If you already have a main battle rifle, you should get used to hunting with that. Unless you want a sub moa 700m+ gun like a Rem 700 (even the sps tac or police). I bet you get well over that $400 mark if you go to sporterize that Mosin.
I seen the Remington 770 in a field and stream review said might not be the best looking but being the way it shoots who cares. I think the 770 is a nice looking rifle
I never owned a rifle before, I would like to get one. My budget is 600 out of the box ready to shoot. I would like to get use 308 round. What would you recommend?
I would tend to agreeon that one. Rounds are a bit more expensive but man they run flat. But on the other end, you really can not go wrong with a .22LR
This is a very importan episode. In most of the world the weapon you can legaly own is a bolt action rifle, or similar. (And even then often only with special permits.) I can only, from the top of my head, think of the US and Switzerland as the countries where you can fairly easily and legaly own semi-auto weapons like the AR-15.
Before even watching the video, immediately knew you were going to include the Mosin, Axis, and 770 :) You might wanna look at the upcoming 783s. It looks promising
I want to see a budget rifle comparison of all of them. Savage axis, winchester xpr, ruger american, weatherby vanguard, remington 783, browning x bolt, Thompson center compass and test them all too.
Mauser K98 with a good bore check before buying, can be quite the plinker out to 400 yards. My inexperience (and dumb luck) I got a 8 minute window with a run out 400 yards within my first 50 czech surplus rounds. With proper practice, about 20 cents a round. I could probably hone that. With a scope and math, it could be quite a good one. It was 100 dollars at a gun show. Be damn sure the barrel is good before getting a surplus.
