I find it fascinating, that Hephaestus created an acquisition class machine, but also designed it to be highly capable of defending itself against hunters, with combat based programming. It shows that despite his malicious code, he still follows his advanced programming of creating machines to serve a function on earth.
The Fireclaw was actually classified as a combat class machine in Frozen Wilds. Forbidden West changed its designation (and did the same thing with the Frostclaw).
Awesome video the fireclaw has and will alway remain one of my most favorite machines. I remember when i did the frozen wilds for the first time and learned to dread the music of its younger brother the frostclaw, but when i saw its firey brother swing down from the volcanic lava to defend hephaestus in the core i feel in love with its design and constant aggressive state making me really feel like i was the one being hunted and not the other way around. I love forbidden west its funny how of the few issues i have with the game on a non technical level most of them surround the fireclaw. One i wish it was just as relentless as it was in HZD thet toned it down a bit and i liked the challenge of the cat and mouse game i played with them. My second is WHY OH WHY did they have to change out its banger unique soundtrack to a albeit decent generic one that it shares with a few other large machines, like the thunderjaw and stormbird in HZD. The soundtrack solidified all my fears of this machine and are IMO apart of its identity idk it might just be mr but the og fireclaw them was literal 🔥. (Also i glad to see you pit the overridden fireclaw against an apex as you mentioned the fight is always super close which is why i said it was the most fair way to compare two different machines)
It did seem much different encountering them in Forbidden West. Even after defeating the first one in the Frozen Wilds story, each subsequent Fireclaw was still terrifying to encounter. I’m glad I’m not the only one that thinks they were toned down a bit. Maybe to make the game more accessible?
One simple fact that he is weak to frost makes him way easier than an apex thunderjaw. He is easier to dodge also. Great video! Love his design a lot anyway. Apex predators on arena is still the most difficult challenge in the game
Glad you like the video! Have you been able to keep a Fireclaws in the brittle state? They seem to negate the state much more quickly than other machines
@@unknown_2552 Yes it can suddenly negate the brittle state but if you're fast enough you can freeze it again and its ability to cancel the brittle state has a long "cooldown"
I've got a great way to farm sac webbing! I find the fireclaw the hardest mechine. Plus, I ONLY get apex versions (playing on hard). My current end game farm method involves a fully upgraded Sun Sourge and Blastforge with close range damage coils. I'm also wearing a +2 silent movement armor via a coil. You could probably use any bolt blaster but you need a bow that can freeze in one volley and the +2 silent movement. The strategy is simple. Run up DIRECTLY behind the fireclaw, freeze it then sustained burst onto to glowblast canisters on its bum. As soon as the sustained burst runs out, gtfo as quickly as you can and hide like a child behind some trees. Wait till the fireclaw goes back into a yellow state, then rinse and repeat. With fully upgraded gear, I can do it with just under 2 volleys. The +2 silent movement allows you to get almost directly behind the fireclaw without alerting it. I end up using 2 advanced frost arrows and about 100 advanced bolts so not super cheap but it's very safe if done correctly and relatively quick. Happy hunting!
I love the video. I love the design and hate fighting it too, especially given the terrain yoh have to fight it on. I think that the Slaughterspine woul win because of the immense capacity to dish damage. Like stuff such as the plasma breath or the plasma projectiles from the spines deal an absurd amount of damage
I remember first time playing frozen wilds on ultra hard and I was stuck on that fireclaw final boss for a really long time.. he basically one or two shot me constantly so on the attempt I killed him I basically had to play flawless. I’ve yet to fight one in forbidden west though.
Yea bro I got stuck on the Daemonic fireclaw boss battle for two RL(real life) days lol I got so angry when the fireclaw killed me again and again that i yetted my control at my bed so hard that it almost broke 😂
@@unknown_2552 interestingly the apex fireclaw is a level 60 machine but the daemonic fireclaw is a level 55 and the regular is a level 50 in the frozen wilds.
Apex machines are the sequel to daemonic machines, whereas one was only in one area and was just an affliction, the other is found almost everywhere and made in every probably made in every cauldron. The main similarity between the two is that they both include purple elements.
@@unknown_2552 100%! This Fiery Rage Fueled Winnie the Pooh yeeted its flaming body like it was WWE. If that did not connect it started grabbing pieces terrain about 5 times the size of Aloy. This is by far the most intimidating machine when it stands on two legs 🤣
I remember with the fireclaw i died several times to the 2 fireclaw site, then i used the override trick so i was a fool at that time trying to take out 2 fireclaws at the same time apex fireclaws are so hard either way
Forgot to mention that Apex Fireclaws have Plasma Containers instead of sparkers. Causing the plasma blast will knock off the armor plates on the shoulders giving a good opening for a Sharpshot bow.
U should see the apex fireclaw. It f*cking glows in the dark because of its purple muscles on its upper thighs of its legs also if u look closely the slaughterspine also has red armour plates on its back
I was really waiting on the fozen wild machine even in FW they are still among the toughest ! I think the slaughterspine gonna win since he uses plasma and plasma is really strong on machine vs machine fights but I still wonder wich one has more hp
Fireclaws Are Prototype Not True Version Of A Fireclaw Means It's Just A Demo Machine Imagine If Hephaestus Create Full Version Of A Fireclaw, Info: From Horizon Zero Dawn Frozen Wilds DLC Machine Catalogue Fireclaw Details
Fireclaw was, and still is my favorite machine. Its just such a cool enemy, one of the tougher machines. Kinda doesnt make sence that its aquisition tho, it should have been a combat class.
It does have a reason, though. Back in the day, I was watching a Fireclaw to test the Override I got from Epsilon,since alotta people complained that it didn't work for them. Glitch or something. I was getting closer when I found it digging into a Watcher's corpse. I started noticing things like that more. Sometimes, it digs into corpses like a Scrapper. Other times, it just digs into the dirt and wipes it's snout from time to time. It gathers minerals,apparently. Sort of a side job to tearing our asses a new one. Never seen a Sawtooth do something like that. Or any other Combat unit.
Yes this is fair. You can see them produce material when they are not trying to destroy planets. Also they have those large sacs filled with blaze. I think they produce blaze to transport or use in the fight.
Im confused as to why it is an Acquisition now because in HZD: The Frozen Wilds, this thing was made as a hunter-killer but now its just repurpose as a scavenger?
@@carlosserra689 I do think the slaughter spine has more powerful attacks, but the fireclaw is a sponge when it comes to damage. But I would love if one day when it comes to PC someone will make those 2 fight
Isn’t there an attack where if the Fireclaw gets their hands on you, it’ll hold you in a bear hug and do a back breaker? When that happened to me I completely flipped out haha
Hephaestus doesn't want to "destroy humanity". His sole intent is ensuring the terraforming is not interrupted by humans. That's why he started creating combat machines and no "human-hunting machines". If so, he would very well be able to destroy humanity sending machines to effectively look for them.
0:33 No Not At All, He's Created Because To Hunt Hunters So That Fireclaw Can Protect Other Aquisition Machines, Hephaestus Wants To Save Earth He Is Creating Combat Machines For Aquisition Machines Safety
That’s actually not correct. Machines like the Fireclaw and Scorcher were created to actively search out and kill humans. The derangement was Hephaestus protecting acquisition machines by turning machines hostile.
The Stormbird existed before as a means to clear the ozone of pollution, it was simply repurposed by Hephaestus. The Thunderjaw was purposefully created to protect acquisition machines. Machines like the Scorcher and Fireclaw, however, were specifically created to seek out and kill humans. Hephaestus’ main plan in the Frozen Wilds was to mass-produce Fireclaws to wipe out human populations.
@@unknown_2552 Thunderjaw Will Stay With Aquisition Machines It Will Never Go To A Village And Destroy It And Obviously It Means It's Created To Protect Aquisition Machines, If Humans Never Attacked Aquisition Machines For Parts Then Hephaestus Will Never Create Combat Class Machines,
Who do you think would win if the Thunderjaw,the Slaterspine,the Fireclaw and all other heviwate machines would fieth to the death in a 5 round battle I think the Sliterfang would win
I honestly think that out of all the heavyweight machines, the Fireclaw would win. It would be really close between the Fireclaw, Slaughterspine and Thunderjaw, but the Fireclaw just has SO MUCH health, hits hard and hits fast!
I cant get a fireclaw to spawn at the unmarked site and I've tried over 15 times in day and night. am I just unlucky or do u need to do some sort of quest to unlock it spawning there? also great vid.
The only thing I can think of is I had already completed the mission “Need to Know” with Talanah. Maybe they start spawning after defeating that mission specific one?
