Meanwhile the house is still burning and I’m watching my savior fumble with a ladder for 5 minutes as I draw my last, scorching, smoke filled breath, cursing quota hires.
I'm glad someone said it. Do we want to slower standards so a woman, that can't wrestle the fucking "LADDER" is able to get in and serve along side the guys that can do this without assistance??? The answer is no. Since when has the safety motto been, let's lower the bar instead of raise it???
Sure, the obvious struggle with its awkward shape and weight probably has no bearing on her ability to handle it under an extremely stressful situation.
@@Smokecorleone415 roofers do roofing on my jobs they are not carpenters You haven't been around much if you don't know who does all the roof framing,sheathing , fascia work, soffits , siding and the list is endless. Any questions ?
that rope should only be long enough to extend all the way out and should loop around the bottom step so it never gets in anyone's way or doesn't get hung up on anything
I was thinking the same thing to lol, your not gonna hurt the bricks why not just let it ride the wall all the way down, Id like to see the knee thing down on a 40ft'er lmao
As someone who has thrown a ladder up and down countless times going from telephone pole to telephone pole......... I am shocked to see a firefighter handle a ladder like it's his first time
@ScrubLord92 I work with ladders everyday and if one of my employees was that timid and had that little control over a ladder they'd be gone that minute. Usually the fire dep is there to save people not take 3 times longer than a normal person would just to set up a ladder and wait for the day when not if they drop that on something or someone...
To your curiosity, this is a simple example of the Static Equilibrium Theorem and Angular Momentum Theorem. By reducing the angle between the ladder and the floor, the firefighter is reducing the amount of force in the X axis to move the ladder, caused by the sum of the x-component of weight force and friction applied in the point of contact between the ladder and floor. This will make it easier to move because there will be less strength necessary to be applied by us in the X axis. Most of the weight force will be on the y-axis. The angular momentum theorem helps us when the firefighter pushes the ladder a bit so that the other end will apply momentum because of its weight and the ladder will rotate easily so that he can pull the rope and retract it.
Ive always walked behind it, reached up to the highest rung i could reach and grab a lower one with the other hand and shouldered it. Yes even high up like that one too.
After a few years of running cabling on telephone poles and spans from a 28’ ladder, my short and skinny self found some very creative tricks for tossing that ladder around. It kicked my ass at first for sure though.
For anyone pretending to know more about ladders because they work trades, that 24' ladder probably weighs 75lbs compared to a regular ladder that weighs 30lbs. The weight rating is also gonna much higher at around 750lbs compared to a regular 250lbs. Not to mention that this ladder would be spiked and thrown in full gear, so it's odd that so many commenters think they'd do it better when they'd be out of breath just climbing one.
Ya, I was in gutter for many years and watching this video was hard. It’s good they are learning, but I used the 36/40ft and 28ft all day. We even had a 60ft but F that thing. Technique is EVERYTHING! There are multiple ways to carry them as well, I eventually started sideways shoulder carry, but most people start off hand up and hand below directly in front of you. Also the rope being caught up under her ladder was also a issue…… I see everyone talking about roofers, but gutter guys move those ladders all day long.
In all my training, ive been told that the side with the fly goes towards the building. Also helps so you don't pull the ladder off the building and have to awkwardly go to the other side to use the halyard
next time you borrow a ladder you'd better inspect it to see which way the locks face because "gravity locks" on a fly section face the way he's doing it in the video. This is probably 90% or more for homeowner ladders.
Y’all ain’t realising it’s probably either dramatised or he’s a new firefighter, not to mention this is retracting it, not deploying it, when they’re more likely to be tired and not full of adrenaline
Control is always best, but if you can walk a ladder up to the ledge, it shouldn't be an issue to lift it to a point you can disengage it and let it fall controlled through one hand and not need your legs to brace. I've worked with these ladders, this is one way to bring it down, but not the most useful. You can use your legs and lower back without making yourself a stand 😅 some might say this is working smarter, but smarter for me is having strength, not excuses.
I used to be a painter I could throw that thing around like a rag, 40 to 60 foot ladders on rough terrain in the mountains will teach you how to move a ladder
Put your foot on the bottom rung.. stand on it. First you're gonna need more upper body strength. Then pull and balance. While holding pull the rope and lower. Pretty simple. A strong wind and that ladder is going sideways the way in the video and he would be able to stop it as easily. Coming from a gutter guy. We use raise, lower and move ladders more than anyone. That includes fireman and roofers. Even roofers don't move ladders nearly as muchas we do 😅
Ladder was also backwards, lol. Rope on the outside - usually hoist it before you set it. 4 to 1, is the ratio - for every 4 metres of height, 1 metre out, at the base and, yes, the ladder should extend beyond the roof so you step onto the roof - if the base is out too far, beyond ratio, standing on the rungs higher than the roof can have fulcrum effect - generally wouldn't have more than one foot landing rungs above the roof. Must be a training ladder - pretty sure they'd use wood or fibreglass, if no pump ladder, since conduction.
Yes somehow roofers in Carpenters know how to best utilize these ladders. Pro pro tip, never stand in between the ladder and a building, stranger things have happened, and ladders can slide out. That position is risky. However you stand in the outside, You have much better control and can always lean the ladder back against the building to reposition if necessary.
@@bloodshot420gaming6 I borrowed a 60 twenty years ago. I still have it. The owner refused to take it back. It's on top of a 32 foot by two foot aluminum work platform that has a line across the center in magic marker saying cut here. Have a safe Independence Day.🇺🇲
@@bloodshot420gaming6 I've never dealt with a 60' before. At that point we'd just drag out the boom lift. Our 40' is fiberglass though, so just adds to the fun.
You're missing the point. She needs it to be easier because she lacks the size to do her job. I don't doubt that she has the spirit but that doesn't matter in a real rescue scenario. Someone that can't pull herself or an unconscious victim out of a sticky situation is a danger to herself her team and the public. In a real dangerous high stress environment this lady is at worst going to be in the way or at the very least just stand there and give orders. Either way she should be replaced by someone that could help if needed. The bottom line is would you want this to be the person that showed up to help if you needed? I doubt it.
@@christinafisher9357 there’s nothing wrong with making things easier for yourself if you are a smaller build. Use it to your advantage. Not everyone Is built to be put on a truck company. If using your leverage as a small person helps to get the job done then so be it. There are plenty out of shape fat fireman that can’t get the job or burden their citizens and brothers and sisters by being a liability. There’s plenty of small firefighters that can get the job done.
As a roofer I have to say thank you but I want everyone who isn't to realize how much people take for granted that things like handling a ladder will come naturally or even with proper technique. That being said this was a long and more dangerous way than I would use but I have seen far worse and far slower by seemingly more able people
Just walk it down very simple, all you gotta do it simply be past the middle before all the weight goes down and you can walk it down and unlatch it, I did it all the time in my carpentry class
The ladder was set at too steep of an angle to begin with. The correct ladder angle is to stand with your feet on the ladder feet and then extend your arms parallel to the ground to grab the ladder.
🎉 Here's a carpenter's way push the latter closer to building climb up latter to extension push up to release and the extension slids down while you proceed down easy smeasy.😊
As I firefighter I can tell you that yes the second way is easier but it’s not that hard. We have 35 and 50 foot extensions that are truely heavy ladders.
@@scotttam7491 we use aluminum mainly but yes we use more than one person for most ladders realistically. I have done 28 by myself a few times but NFPA rule of thumb is first digit is recommended number of people. Aka. 28 is two person ladder. 35 is three and so on.
@RobertDaggett that’s what the standards say. It can be awkward if you don’t know what your doing but we train together and it’s pretty easy with whatever number of people we have. “If” we have three that are to throw a 35’ ladder. One would stand on bottom rung of the ladder and the two would push it up and then two stabilize it while one pulls the extensions up. Same for a 50 not room for 5 guys so use three and maybe have someone help you pull it up. These general rules came into place when we started getting more and more females or weak males that couldn’t do it so they made standards to make it easier as well as if you can’t do it the easy way then you don’t pass the skills test.
That ladder should've never been that far out at the base in the first place. Look at the level part of the steps and make them level with the ground...
You do realize that she's demonstrating for a video, right? It's not meant to be as fast as she can possibly do it, just showing the general idea to get the ladder aligned and everything just right every time (Something very important when you might be carrying more weight back down that ladder). Consistency, and knowing you have a ladder you can come back to is something carpenters don't really have to worry about as much as firefighters. That placement might be a bit slower than your contractor friend, but this placement being right could also be the difference between a safe descent and not coming back to a ladder after you've entered a burning building. Can y'all be slightly less angry, she's doing infinitely more of a service to infinitely more people than you'll ever meet in your life (like actually what authority in fire rescue do you have to be so butthurt)
❤❤❤ WALK LADDER TO BUILDING WALL ME - LADDER - WALL PULL ROPE FROM BEHIND TO SIDE TO FRONT PULL ROPE LIFT ENUFF TO RELEASE THE DOGS THEN LOWER BY FEED Of Rope . ONE MAN CAN Push Ladder INTO BUILDING TO CONTROL NOT DROP INTO STREET & PEOPLE .THE WAY SHOWN,, PULL ROPE ST. LINE ,, F.D. TRAINING .🎉
@@swanginfleetif they really cared about wrecking the fascia guard they should have put padding down. Just pull the rope until the ladder lowers more and then its not as heavy to hold plum.
Grab the line and pull from the half way point. Or just push really hard into it & let it jump off that roofline. Also, there is absolutely no reason to get behind the ladder to let It down, just balance it & hold it upright with 1 hand.
