Great showcase of the broad - thanks. It's kinda like a Dark Arts 'Dad Bod' (the first one with a squash tail) - the dimensions are similar too, with the Machadocado being even wider and more volume. I rode the Machadocado in small & lumpy, windy semi - close out surf and it kinda excelled there. It's def more of a groveler than the Mashup, but less so than the Seaside or Sweet Potato, so sizing it up a bit is less of a no-no. I like the tail and fin setup more on this than the Seaside and SP too, as it gets SUPER thin like you mentioned (thickness wise) which helps it pivot better. With the sea of swallow and round pins on the market, it's nice to see the classic squash back in action. This board doesn't jump out at you when you look at it in store, but I'm really glad it was suggested at one of their demos cause now I 'need' one lol. If I'm not mistaken, the total sq ft of this (Rob's) 2 plus 1 equals the same sq ft of his four fin quad set - and why the trailer is a big larger than normal. You're ripping on it too, look forward to more vids featuring it - cheers!
sort of reminds me of the Sunday nose with the Twice Baked Tail and the Sweet Potato bottom. Near chumlee tail. I really like the look of it for my waves. thanks for the review.
@@ThomyeSurfs this MC out performs the Chumlee by a mile. I couldn’t get the Chumlee to do a legit turn in 1-3’ waves. It was fast… but I didn’t like to turn in the hook.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Yeah, I didn't like the Chumlee either. I could not set the rails on cutbacks. I would just tip over. this Board looks really legit for my weekend waves.
@@tezf6883 Curious about that too, I have never tried the Flat Earth so I can speak to it. but comparing the two seems like apples to oranges. If I remember correctly, the Flatearth was for performance on Hawaii type waves. Cado seems like a good socal beach break board.
Ripping on the cado Noel! Picked up the 5'6" which has a few more liters than I normally ride, but like you described, with how refined the tail is, and nose ever so slightly pulled in and with just the right amount of flip, it is so much fun. Atm cannot get off this board. I'm glad I went up a size, as FW seems to have skipped the 5'5" - the 5'6" still fits well in pockety surf for quick snaps, but also is a blast in flatter slopey waves. Wraps are especially fun on the cado, just step all the way back to the deckpad kick and bring it all the way around!! Thanks Noel for the awesome review!
@@Craig-t2g awesome! I’m 182lbs 5’9” my regular short boards are around 29-30L Honestly the first day I surfed the 5’6” cado it felt more than 32L in a good way eg paddling was so easy. Made getting into waves and paddling to keep up with currents super easy. So far took it out on small flatter waves and a few steeper cuppy days and board handles really well. Doing roundhouses/wraps are so fun with this board, I feel like it is definitely smoothing out my surfing. I’ve tried the new Maxhado twin plus trailer set up on small days and it is super fast, but for quick snaps I was sliding out a bit. I threw in my Shapers Asher Pacey uprights plus trailer and they are so solid. I’m going to try the endorfin twin plus shark tooth next to see how they feel. I don’t regret going up to the 5 6 especially since I planned from the get go to use this board as a groveler and give my shoulders a break in between swells. Also, the next size down would have been 5 4 which for me wouldn’t grovel as well.
@@spacey_77 That's great feedback. Thx! Yes Bowie Pollard over at his shop in sunshine coast also said the board paddled like 33-34 litres. I'm 6 foot, 80-81 kgs 178 180 pounds. Somewhat hesitant about actually going so short, but if it paddles well, then I'm all good. Also interesting note on the fins, I'll probably er towards something like that myself. A bit more fin.
This one looks really good under Noel's feet. Throwing a lot more spray than many of the recent review boards! Looks like that board loves waist to head high fun conditions!
I've been waiting for this review to come out since I got the email from Firewire about the release of the Machadocado. Got a couple of questions for you: How would you compare this board to the Mashup? And what dimensions would you recommend me if I want to get this board for my everyday board? I am 215lbs, 5'11", mostly surfing during the weekends, SoCal beach brakes from Newport to HB. I am debating between the 5'10" x 21 5/8" x 2 11/16" x 37.6L or going up to the 6'0" x 21 5/8" x 2 3/4" x 40.1L. I just got myself a Sweet Potato 5'6" x 22" x 2 9/16" x 37.8L in the Helium Core with Volcanic Lamination that I'm enjoying as a groveler board. I look forward to your feedback!
Your volume range for your weight at different skill levels. Pro/Expert 34-36L Advanced 36-38L Intermediate 39-41L If you currently like your 37L board then you can go for similar volume on the MC. The bigger size might feel a bit big in overhead waves with the extra volume. If your a strong paddler and like your boards more sensitive go for the smaller one. Another thing to consider is the strong currents in those Beachies and foam is your friend.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Excellent review, as always! In a punchier wave, shoulder-headhigh with more curve, would you still prefer the PJ Sting or PJHP over the MC performance-wise? Cheers!
If i recall correctly your favourite groveler was the dominator 2.0, how would you compare these two boards? Looks like the machadocado might have a better lowrange but the dominator might give a little more performance?
Hard to compare these two boards. The D2 is not a wide nose hybrid board design like the MC. The MC is a legitimate Groveler be design with its wider outline and lower overall rocker. The D2 is more of a Small Wave Performance board or Daily Driver. Both boards are epic and make a good two board quiver.
I loved the speed of the Seaside, but I kept catching rails. Does this thing have the same speed and catch less rail ? which do you prefer yourself, Seaside or Machadocado ?
Those are some sick turns you got on the board! Do you tend to gravitate towards lower volume/dims for the pool vs the ocean or would you probably get it in the same dimensions if you were still surfing SoCal waves/crowds for the review?
@@johns.9527 I tend to go lower in volume in the pools. If I were surfing the MC in So Cal breaks I would jump up a stock size. The 5’4” might be a tad big for me but I would manage the extra foam.
I would love to see you test some of the local hawaii shapers boards other than pyzel. Would be good for the guys going to hawaii for surf trips but want a board more tailored to hawaii surf like the pros do every year
I am hoping to get a board from Glen Pang. I wouldn’t do any HPSB’s or step up boards. I think the pros do a great job riding the HPSB and the waves are not big enough in So Cal and other popular spots often enough for me to focus on those. Sorry
Love this review! Noel, I've been riding a 5'5" 31.5 seaside in Florida for years. I'm afraid to drop down to the 5'4" Cado as it's only 28L. 5'6" at 32 L sounds so big. I'm 5'8" 170 pounds, advanced skill what are your thoughts on sizing? 30L is usually what I ride in good waves. Thanks in advance :)
@@3erlewis Sounds like the gap between these two stock sizes is not working for you. I hate my boards feeling to big but low volume in weak mushy waves doesn’t work either. Maybe consider a different board
Do you think an RNF 96 can cover the same range better than the ‘cado? I’ve had the seaside for several years and love it, but need a more twin / twin + trailer 1 board quiver filler.
@@mickleddyfishing4986 Yes, they are similar. The FF has less overall rocker and might be a tad faster down the line. The Cado has a little better wave range and will be fun in head high surf. The FF will struggle in faster steeper waves…. Do to less curve in rocker.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks a lot Noel! And what would you choose between the JS Flame Fish and Pyzel WT? If you like speed and performance groveling?
@@DavidWilcox-hy9ot Seaside might be a tad faster due to it being a Quad. However the MC is still pretty quick and it offers way more performance with less catching in the nose are through turns.
Do you no the Machado Cado 5'6 is 2 9/16 thick and the 5'8 is 2 1/2 thick? So the 5'8 is actually thinner then the 5'6, I felt both sizes under arm and the 5'8 feels a little thinner then the 5'6 cado which I like. Has anyone noticed this?
Noel, pretty big size gap between 5’8” and 5’10”. I normally ride 35.5 L. Some say size up for a groveler but the 5’10” feels really big. Does it make sense to surf this shape as small as possible? It’s just so wide.
I wish there a was a bit more emphasis on its grovel abilities - especially since this board looks the part. I would be in the market for this board or the JS flame fish.
The Cado really doesn’t have much rocker… so it’s going to be fast in small mushy waves. The FF might be a tad faster with its wider outline but the Cado out performs the FF.
How do these wave pools work? Do you belong to the pool....like a membership? Can you surf it whenever you want? Is it always packed with tourists/beginners?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Ahhh so you must book in advance. How many waves (Advanced) do you get in a session? I live in SoCal so not looking to book...just curious how it works, thanks Noel!
Thoughts on this vs a pyzel white tiger? Seem similar to me, squash tail longer rail foam forward grovelers… I am a begintermediate surfer getting more comfortable on shortboards, can catch up to around head high waves reliably but don’t really rip or do major maneuvers yet, mostly go down the line and working on going more top to bottom on the face. I’m on a 5’8 hypto currently, twin plus trailer. I was thinking maybe a 5’6 MC or a 5’7 WT, mainly interested in getting looser with a squash tail vs pintail. It might be fair to say I’m not good enough yet to appreciate the differences and should just stay on the hypto. Any thoughts if either of these boards might be worthwhile for my progression?
@@jcsul15 The MCado is a great step to your second board. It’s stable and fast. The WTis good too… I think the MC is a bit more stable and easier to surf.
Hey Noel, what's your favorite "quad fish"? I surf a lot of lefts/backside and sometimes the twin feels sketchy. Was thinking a quad would help that issue? Feel free to point me in the direction of another of your videos if you already addressed this topic. Thanks!
@@alang253 The Asym I rode like that had no traction. It was loose and pivoted quickly on the heal side turns but zero hold. Every turn I did the board was sliding out. I had Matt Parker from Album shape me a board a few years back.
Hi Noel, I see you're surfing well! I hope you don't mind me asking about your hip. I am 47 and have been having right hip pain, my front leg. The x-ray said minimal joint space narrowing. Did you have much pain at the "minimal" stage? I glimpsing my future and well I'm annoyed. Thanks Eric
@@EK-lp8od I could feel bone on bone towards the end and the pain was consistent 7 out of 10. My left hip… (non surgery) has a bit of pain too, and clicks a bit. Could be my labrum or nothing. X Rays on my l Face Time side are good. Surgeon says that hip is good. However MRI might see something with my labrum. I am seeing a message therapist monthly.. it’s been helping both of my hips.
@@jorgeandrescoppiano the Cado has less overall rocker so it’s faster and paddles better. The Cado is more of a Groveler and shreds 1-3’ surf. You can surf it in a little overhead waves but it’s best in smaller waves. The RW is more of a small wave performance board. It does tighter arcing turns and likes to surf the pocket more vertical. Basically the RW is a step down small wave shredder. For most surfers… including myself it’s my daily HPSB. Most small wave performance boards fall into this category… they rip 3-6’ flatter faced waves that aren’t super hollow.
@@brianfrawley3616 Go 6’2” Cado. Catch a bunch of waves and make it easy on yourself. After you get back in paddle shape and start surfing better then scale down your board.
Great video! I currently ride a 5’10” seaside 39.4L, a 6’4” S boss 37.7L. Would you recommend the 5’10” 37.6L or the 6,0 40L machadocado? I’m 6’4, 190# intermediate surfer
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the reply. The seaside feels good but I am looking for more performance. Do you think the 6’0” will still have more performance than the seaside even at 40l?
@@Soulriderpowder Longer boards offer more rail line to generate speed with. I like a shorter board to put it where I want faster to generate speed surfing top to bottom quickly
Hi. How does this board compare to a Gskate considering they have different tails and front end? Which one is more fund and allows to high performance?
@@JOSELUIS-ci2hs This MC out performs the GSkate in 1-3’ surf. It’s way faster and pivots better. The GSkate has a better upper end wave range with its overall rocker and pulled in tail.
@@trestlesrocks if your surfing 1-2’ mushy waves then you can volume up a liter or so. I like my boards responsive… some folks like 2-3L more in small weak waves.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I’m trying to decide between the 5’6” and the 5’8”. I’m 6’0” 190lbs. Good wave shortboard currently is Sharpeye 77 6’2”x19 3/4”x2 11/6” 32.6L. The machado cado would be my everyday board for junk to fun head high. Leaning towards the 5’6” at roughly my normal volume, but worried about the 8” length change feeling too extreme.
Was undecided between the 5’6” and the 5’8”. I ended up getting a 5’8”. Feels great, however I ended up ordering a 5’6” because the big jump in width from the 5’6” up to the 5’8” is pretty massive and I’m looking for a bit more high performance response. Will be interesting to compare the two sizes and decide which to keep. Or possibly keep both with the bigger of the two for softer conditions and the smaller as I slight step up for good days. For SoCal waves I think this board is pretty much up to the task for all but the very best days which my shortboard would be used in. 🤷♂️
@@charleshawk6668 Yes… in TX now. You can use the Cado as your first step down for a beginner if you graduated from a long board. If you get a Cado make sure it has a good amount of volume so it’s stable and you catch waves easily. If you’re brand new to surfing… then get a 9’ soft top and make learning more fun.
What next? Banana? Lettuce? Pear? Relasing so many different boards make the old ones redundant and with no value, when on really is another one like many others
I ride a 5'11 seaside and I am 6'3 220 pounds. It feels like a good volume for me. Ride new smyrna/ ponce inlet Fl. Ive had my seaside for 5 years and its gotten a little waterlogged and pink. Looking for something similar to seaside a little more performance. Do you think the 6'0 Machadocado is it for me?
Definitely do not oversize this board. I made that mistake and it’s a dog at the higher volume. Way too much float in the front to the point where swimming it into waves is tough as the buoyancy pushes back on you with all that width, and the same features make it really hard to set the rail anywhere than a foot forward from the tail. Especially problematic if you are surfing anything with a bowly section or little quick drops. All the same issues as over sizing the Seaside but more pronounced.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 also forgot to mention, for context, I love the Seaside sized right. I probably need a MCado sized down, but the one I have plows water.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Looking forward to that video! I sold my Seaside (too big) planning to size down to a 5'5 / 5'6 SS, then this thing comes out! lol.
@@surfnshowreviews7777Forget third box, put four box ! What i mean, i think this board work better with quad set ! Quad is really twin future ! Surfboard work on rail, with its edge and fins in rail. That's my particular opinion. That's the way i surfing ! Noel, i fowling you a long time, and some times when you user your back knee aim to a front knee in botton turn , your carve have a more drive, consequent you have more power on snap in a wave face! i'm sorry may English, i don't know if i did maked me understand !
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I. Ant recall. The last one I had was the Al Merrill “POD” I believe that it was around 28-29 vol?? I do know it was a 5’8” standard construction board. I was lighter back then 170# roughly I stopped surfing due to back surgery and haven’t hit the waves in over three years. Looking to return
@@user-gc9xr3fq7i Great comparison… 1-2’ mushy waves I say Flame Fish for down the line speed. 14’ surf good speed with good performance in the pocket for a Groveler goes to the MC
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I did enjoy the fling in smaller waves particularly in their epoxy/ carbon mesh build. I m very tempted by this new Machado. It looks great under your feet in the wave pool 🤙🏼🤙🏼 Thanks for the review
