Firewood Processor Sawdust Problem -E122

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The Oak Mountain Acotts are trying to debottleneck their firewood manufacturing process and remove some frustrations! They add a dust blower to the sawdust chute of the Hakki Pilke Raven 33 firewood processor and power it with the Honda 7000es inverter generator. You can also see the Kranman hydraulic timber trailer in action as it loads the log table!
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@jimon1287 2 года назад

Really enjoy the videos. It's obvious you put a lot of work into making them. Thanks..

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Glad you like them Jim! They take a lot of time but we enjoy making them and we have learned so much from the RU-vid community that it has been well worth it. Take care! Jason & Karen.

@chrisbubar6604 2 года назад

Jason I run a hakki pilke easy 38 and use the garbage can under the sawdust shoot. (3 big plastic cans per cord) I did have to put an extension onto the sawdust outlet. Just used some light tin. The easy 38 sawdust exit is angled down which prevents plugging. I also removed the 4 metal bars in the shoot. Chris

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Great feedback! I think the blower is a great addition and I doubt I will manually touch sawdust again unless I can find a buyer for it!

@thelogfather5002 2 года назад

I have a thought to use a small air compressor to help with the chip collection- not quite sure how to plumb it yet… and like you, I’d need to run a generator too, not crazy about that idea. My trash can collection seems to be working ok for now. Thanks for the shout out again! :) Blessings, Jeff.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Hi Jeff, I'm going to try it on about 150' of extension cords from the house next. Maybe I won't need the generator!

@n3qdz 2 года назад

Stop throwing money away! Hopefully that got your attention. Please stop throwing that great gold away. You have found money that you are dumping on the ground. That sawdust can be used for chicken and animal bedding. You can bag it up and sell it for 20.00 a bag. What you can do is keep the blower and buy an old dumpster bin to blow in the sawdust. You can either sell it by the bag or bulk to farmers. Keep it dry and see the money fly in! Collect those dollars and that way you don’t have a liability you have an asset! Great video have a great day!!

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

You got my attention! I tried selling sawdust when we first started a few years ago with no interest. I am going to try again though. I’ll pick up a few bags and advertise on marketplace to see if I have any luck now. Thanks for the note!

@n3qdz 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts one place to start is the 4h clubs (not sure if you have one locally where you are) and also advertise in the farmers newspaper

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

@@n3qdz Good idea… I was a 4-H member back in the day!

@Ants_Pants 2 года назад

That seems to work out fine, great job

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Oh yeah, the more I use it, the more I like it!

@larrykerr7712 2 года назад

Looks good.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Thanks Larry!

@bentwedgestanleybrand5818 2 года назад

Well that blower system you got there it's a lot better than a garbage can. Maybe you can make a board that it's up inside your discharge, with a 4-in hole that fits your tube, something that fills the shoot better. Create more vacuum. Just a thought. Keep up the great videos!

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I agree with this. A nice tight fit would be better. It is surrounded by sawdust now and I put a bungee strap on it to hold it up nice and close to the saw. It is working really good... almost pull your ball cap through if you're not careful!

@foxlake6750 2 года назад

Looks like a cost effective solution. Love that Honda generator, had to rent one for an off the grid build. Very quiet and very fuel efficient and very expensive.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Yes, I have had my eye on the inverter generator for a long time (years). We finally took the plunge last Fall. I am a Honda guy and love this generator!

@IlkkaVuoristo 2 года назад

Have tried to sell the sawdust to nearby gardeners? Many of us use it as a mulch, on paths, and in composting. With a blower you could easily bag it up for sale.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I’m going to try this next season. I’ll use Facebook marketplace to see if there is any interest locally. Thanks!

@skeets6060 2 года назад

Ya ever think about using the sawdust and make pellets, out lay is a bit high, but you get a return on something you toss away. The other thing is you might want to cap the chute off and put a fitting on for the plastic hose,, so it has to suck from the cutter bar, and not be able to draw air from all around that way it makes a vacuum of sorts inthe chute

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I haven’t looked into a pellet maker yet. I bet they are expensive! I’m going to try bagging some to see if there are any local buyers for hardwood chips… I built a wooden rack to hook the hose to that slides up in behind the cutter. The sides filled with sawdust and I have pretty decent vacuum!

@darrellobrien4416 8 месяцев назад

To not have chips go through the blower try connecting blower to other end of the saw dust chute.

@OakMountainAcotts 8 месяцев назад

Well now you’ve got me thinking… I don’t believe the sawdust is damaging my cage though…

@fricknjeep 2 года назад

hi there new here nice job think i may take the kink from the flex cut the cross from the discharge and install a longer pipe to over the hill . or do nothing cause it works take care john

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Hi John, thanks for stopping by! I had a second piece of pipe down over the hill but it slowly plugged over time. I have made a few little changes to the setup now and am running on 150’ of extension cords from the house to save generator gas. Things are looking up and no more chute plugs! Take care, Jason.

@bwillan 2 года назад

I saw a similar sawdust setup on a japa 365. Works well. That one has another hose on the output side and is routed to a plastic inch tote tank.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to trial this for a while and then make some modifications. Once I have a building over the processor I can make it a bit more permanent!

@leehobin5132 2 года назад

Greetings Jason & Karen, Lee here, great video, a guy always has to look for ways to improve the operation. What about putting the fan on a stand the level of the proceesor shute and running solid dryer vent pipe from the processor to the fan, that might stop the sawdust gathering in the flex pipe, anyway just a thought. Keep the videos coming, you and your family keep well, later

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Hi Lee, great idea! I expect we will be tweaking for a while yet. I want to bring the blower inside every night to keep it out of the weather and away from any visitors I may get in the night!

@GrampiesWorkshop 2 года назад

How's she goin'? That's a nice way to clear the wood chips. Too bad about needing the generator but sometimes you have to do what you have to do!!! BTW, that was some nice day eh!!! Take care!!!

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Hi Mike! I ran it today on 150’ of extension cords from the house and it worked fine! At $2/Liter, I can’t even run the Honda!

@GrampiesWorkshop 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts It scary eh, but we all need fuel, so even if the price was $10/L we would still buy it... ;-(

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Yes unfortunately, but we will only use it when needed and hopefully to help make a little money when we do… things are crazy these days…

@knottwworking 2 года назад

Hi Jason & Karen another great idea, let us know how it works out. Terry

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Terry! We will likely make a few modifications yet. This was just "proof of concept" for the mini blower!

@arnejahr3531 2 года назад

When we process wood we put a small trailer by the shoot so the sawdust shoots into the trailer when it's full the neighbor comes an gets it for horse bedding. Also it works great for cow bedding

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Nice! I have offered to a horse farmer but they like to use cedar shavings. Thanks for watching!

@lylethurston784 Год назад

I think you need to add a section of pipe to the outlet of the blower. Otherwise your going to get a big build up right at the blower. Maybe all the way to the final dump area.

@OakMountainAcotts Год назад

You are correct. I have a bit of a pile there now. The good news is, if the neighbours don't want the sawdust, I can just push it down over the bank with the backhoe!

@ronlittle5099 2 года назад

I would suggest that you shorten your plastic hose, and build a wooden stand to hold your blower up higher and closer to the sawdust spout. I think that would really help you.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Thanks Ron! Once I get a building around the processor I'll set this up a bit more permanent. I ran it yesterday and it worked just like a vacuum cleaner with no sawdust plugs!

@bobfitch607 2 года назад

Jason if you put the blower out to straiten out the hose would blow them better. Or maybe a hose on the pump discharge and blow it over the bank.just a thought 🤔

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Thanks Bob! I get why the suction is on the side of the unit but it is too bad it wasn't oriented to feed in the backside with discharge from the front. It would be easy to pipe it in then! I have to play around with it and need it to be portable for now until I get a building over the processor. Stay tuned!

@bcnewfie494 2 года назад

been wanting a blower for my sawmill this might just work, just looked it up around 200 + tax and most likely be shipping , for sure gonna save you some time

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I was skeptical when I opened the box (much smaller than I expected) but it seems to work really well. This came from Busy Bee (link in the video description) and I think shipping was covered by them but I can double check. I have in my head that the unit and two pieces of hose was about $300...

@bcnewfie494 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts busy bee is where i found it, i get their flyers , thanks

@aldredske6197 2 года назад

Hi Jason !!😀😀 I wonder if you could put a inverter on the processor to run the blower so you don't have to run the generator.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Yes, I need a solution for that. Gas prices are so crazy (almost $2 per liter now here) that I don't want to burn anymore than needed!

@jamesrussell6870 2 года назад

Or, send it back to manufacturer to get it right! There's a reason we build prototypes!!

@bentwedgestanleybrand5818 2 года назад

Why don't you drill a couple holes in the bottom of that garbage can. That'll get rid of your water. Get a bungee cord strap it to your machine.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Yup, easy fix for that end of it! Garbage can didn't solve my chute plugging issue though but I've been running today and haven't had any plugs today!

@Lawiah0 2 года назад

The "sawdust needs to fall out of the bottom of the chute" closest to the source.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I have the blower working really well now!

@davidlynch7853 2 года назад

There should be a place to put a plug on your processor so as to not need the generator and if that's your permeate location for the blower you can shorten the hose and that should eliminate the build up in the hose.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Excellent points David. I'm going to play around with it for a few cords and then I am sure I will be making some mods!

@droidian 2 года назад

My first thought was to reroute the exhaust into the the chip tunnel.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I'm not sure I understand... give me some more information!

@droidian 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts - Route the exhaust from the small engine where the shavings are cut. The air pressure could help push out the shavings and heat it up to dry it. IDK. Just a first thought. I would have to have one to test it. I always look to save money and find short-cuts. Your vids are good fun. Thank you.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

@@droidian I would be scared of catching it on fire!

@Lawiah0 2 года назад

Note: Value add - sale an additional product by making Compost: combine sawdust or brown leaves with grass cuttings (greens) by equal volume (use method - that looks about right).

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

That’s a great idea!

@peternelly3879 Год назад

Yeah, just throwing it seems strange anyway. Over here in Sweden there is a bit of money in sawdust. Especially from chainsaw like that. I think it costs about 10$ per m3.

@chrisbubar6604 2 года назад

You asked about the easy 38. I went from the 422 deck like u have to the 472 with extension just so I could get a full cord on the deck. The 422 was a great deck just wanted extra capacity. (I got the deck numbers wrong in my first response) too many numbers eh.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I asked about upgrading my deck and I would have to upgrade my processor first! Not sure that is in the cards for 15-20 cords per year!

@chrisbubar6604 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts I wouldn't spend the extra $$. Your set-up is great. I am doing about 150cds and it only is a break even semi retirement gig.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Agreed. We need firewood to sell for $400 per cord! It would still be cheaper than electricity or gas…

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I have a question for you if you don’t mind. Have you ever had your bar and chain hold back out of the wood? I have trouble with really green white and yellow birch… very frustrating!

@chrisbubar6604 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts yes I always blamed it on dull chain or a lip on the bar. I switched from the Oregon bar to a cannon bar. They are pricey but will outlast 3 or 4 Oregon and are much stronger.

@christopherzweerink176 2 года назад

Strech the host so that the chips don't have a valley in The drop.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Good point! I put a bungie strap on the hose and connected it to the processor yesterday so that I could put a little tension on it. Worked really well yesterday with no plugs!

@FromSteelToWood 2 года назад

That works perfect! Too bad you don't produce 120V on the processor!

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

For sure. Going to try to run it on extension cords from the house next to see how it will do!

@tommyrichmond1293 2 года назад

Have you through about selling to chicken farms and what about making pellets to burn in wood stove and for smoking

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I might bag some next year and see if I can sell it!

@erichill1230 Год назад

why not get another Tube and put it on the end where it is coming out from and send it that way

@OakMountainAcotts Год назад

We have a nice little electric sawdust blower connected now. No sawdust issues any longer! Thanks for watching!

@DrO111-z1v Год назад

A guy here takes his saw dust and compresses it into bricks and people burn them idk how he does it you would think it would take to much time and energy to be worth it

@OakMountainAcotts Год назад

I think that is the problem with making pellets as well. I think you need to process large volumes to be profitable?

@rjbelgians8422 Год назад

Did you buy your trailer from Hants Equipment ?

@OakMountainAcotts Год назад

Yes we did!

@ISOSAILING Год назад

thats prity much how they do it in sawmills!! then it gets blasted into a cyclone then drops into a sawdust bunker, or trailer, i have a diferant problem, getting the wood home in prob the smallist car in the wold just now haha have to cut it in the woods to size with my chainsaw then just split it at home although a fare bit dosnt nead split witch is always a bonis!!

@OakMountainAcotts Год назад

Thanks for the feedback! We used to haul firewood in with a small sled behind the snowmobile! Lots of trips back and forth to the woods! Thanks for watching.

@randyzapton6424 2 года назад

Why not tilt the discharge opening down so that the chips slide down on gravity instead of backing up the chute

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

That would probably work. A little drilling and fitting to adjust further. I have the blower on an extension cord from the house now and it is working great… no plugs!

@chrisbubar6604 2 года назад

That is the way it is on my easy 38 processor. The raven looks like it is exiting on the level.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

@@chrisbubar6604 how do you like the 38?

@chrisbubar6604 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts I like the 38 ok. I have about 1000hrs on it. The joystick and swingable output conveyor are great. I had an older 37 that was belt drive and it was so noisy. Mine has the Subaru 28hp. Works good. About 4liters per cord. Last yr I traded my 421 deck for the 422 with extension and I can get a cord of16' wood on it which saves a lot of shutting down and restarting. You have some great stuff. Keep up the great work. Drop in sometime I'm only outside Fredericton.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Great feedback Chris. Nice to connect with someone local running similar gear. Do you have any issues securing semi tree length? I can’t buy it and I am in the middle of the woods. The cost structure only works for me if I cut my own anyway… take care.

@buckinfirewood 2 года назад

Being a corrugated pipe it will decrease the efficiency of the blower.. maybe try and find a hard clear pipe.. great idea 💡 👍

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Good point, if it starts to give me plugging issues, I'll have to hard pipe it!

@tommyrichmond1293 2 года назад

Hey put a small extension on it and add a Conveyor

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I'm going to try a small piece of hard pipe to see if it will send it down over the bank!

@earlholmes9740 2 года назад

Check with you electrician so you can run the blower off your battery while running. Remember to turn the blower off at the end of processing.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Great idea… gas and fuel prices are ridiculous these days!

@SCHULTZZKOPF Год назад

Why are you throwing away sawdust which can be sold to stables, used to raise nightcrawlers which you can sell or made into compost for your garden or to sell, or you can make biochar. Use solar to power your blower .

@OakMountainAcotts Год назад

Lots of opportunities for sure. My big bottleneck right now is time!

@stephenc2296 Год назад

People sell it for livestock bedding

@OakMountainAcotts Год назад

I tried with a local farmer but he wasn’t interested. I may try a marketplace ad in the Spring!

@buckinfirewood 2 года назад

Can you send me the link for the blower please

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I just added it into the video description for you. I guess I purchased it from Busy Bee not Amazon!

@leonardryan8723 2 года назад

Get a leaf blower , blow sawdust out faster .

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I saw those being used to clean up band sawmills. You should see my little blower work now… I’ve got it all tuned in!

@davidryan8686 2 года назад

use the sawdust in your garden ....

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Thanks for the suggestion! I have read that sawdust will make the soil acidic... I'm not sure if anything is going to grow as it is???

@arnejahr3531 2 года назад

Get a wood pellet machine an make wood pellets to sell

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I will have to research that. Are they expensive?

@jamesrussell6870 2 года назад

Why are you fighting a manufacturers design flaw????

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Nothing is perfect. Just looking to make improvements on my process.

@jamesrussell6870 2 года назад

Did you build processor?

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

Not sure where you are going with this James...

@jamesrussell6870 2 года назад

@@OakMountainAcotts if you bought this machine & paid good money for it?, a design flaw should not be your problem. The reason we build prototypes is to work out the kinks, not to send a partially working machine to a customer & let them figure out a problem.

@OakMountainAcotts 2 года назад

I understand your point. This is not an issue that I would take up with the manufacturer. I believe the engineering to be sound on this processor and am overall very happy with the unit. A small problem with sawdust has been improved with the blower and now I can send my sawdust right to the final lay down area with no need to touch it again!