First ascent with Ronin Lift battery powered ascender and review not a dressed up promo vid

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Arborist ascent with Ronin Lift battery powered ascender and review. Overall with a few minor refinements this could be a great product. I like the easy ascent leaving you fresh to begin working the tree. Obviously this isn't for every tree, but on the large ones it would help. For everyone wondering, I followed the manufacturer's instructions and still encountered some issues covered in this video. Manufacturer instructions have been updated since this video and changed a bit. Much better info available for new users. A great product for a reasonable price.
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@kennnva551 5 лет назад

I appreciate you posting this video. I was contemplating selling my Wraptor and buying a Ronin, but now I don't think so. Even though the Wraptor is gas-powered (need ear protection) with no means to descend with it, mine has worked flawlessly. The risk of possibly chewing up (or melting) my life-support rope is a risk I cannot afford. Thanks!

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

I always back it up with a separate climb line, but yes it can be a little unnerving to know that possibility exists. However they have since revised the instructions and it is not really an issue now.

@jameslagasse9745 4 года назад

You made a good choice I've used mine less than 12 times and it has broke and cost me ropes it is not all it is cracked up to be i feel it is cheaply built certainly is not worth the wait or the cost

@kennnva551 4 года назад

@@jameslagasse9745 Thanks. The Wraptor continues to perform without issue.

@ronaldwatson3348 4 года назад

The slipping of the rope as seen in his second ascent is lack of knowledge of how to adjust the unit. Rope diameters are all slightly different. The large red knob at the bottom adjusts the back tension. If slipping is detected, IMMEDIATELY STOP, rotate the knob counter clockwise until snug and resume. Allowing the the rope to spin can melt the cover of the rope which is obviously dangerous, and the melted rope can migrate into the unit requiring a service.

@kevinfailla1978 4 года назад

It was obvious from the start that you didn't tighten the tensioner, but you STILL kept trying to go up. Instructions are very clear about if it slips, you have to tighten the tentioner.

@stihlgotit 4 года назад

Wrong, when it first came out it said not to over tension. They specifically said only use as much tension as it take to ascend. Which is where I had it. I made the first ascent then the second never moved the knob. I got this on pre-order. They came out with a revised set of instructions after I posted this video. They were in contact with me shortly after the video and revised loading and tension setting instructions accordingly.

@kevinfailla1978 4 года назад

@@stihlgotit I stand corrected then. I didn't get mine that early, so I wasn't aware that they had revised their instructions. Im glad you posted the video then and opened their eyes!!!

@robertbettis6552 5 лет назад

Great video, thanks, just subbed your channel!!!!

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

Glad you liked it. Thanks for the sub.

@mikebruno4482 2 года назад

I love mine , we have lots of tall Doug firs here in Oregon and it can really save you a lot of effort on a hot day . Feeding the rope in to get started is not fun .

@Thetreefella 4 года назад

That is like a good time.

@TrueHelpTV Год назад

If it was me, I've stick an actual rope grab above it like a CMI rope walker and not that prusik, because you're liable to suck that prusik into the housing if it gets pinched right; and that becomes a nasty situation. 4 years later how do you feel about it, and what it does to your ropes over time? Any marring, or causing the ropes to fluff? (I'm sure you've realized the hard way you need a 32-max rope, not normal ropes) Or did you just decide to sell it off?

@stihlgotit Год назад

This was the pmi rope provided with the unit initially. It was a 32 strand. The Ronin works fine. They contacted me shortly after this video with revised instructions and I haven't had any trouble since. I don't use it much, mainly for cottonwoods. Super wide canopies with 80' plus open ascent. I use a rope runner on a second line now and abandon the access line once I'm up so the Ronin can be lowered.

@TrueHelpTV Год назад

@@stihlgotit hell yeah I hear ya man. The 2nd line is the way to go, but I didn't wanna cross industries and put my foot in my mouth. On radio Towers, any rope work requires 2 ropes always. Have a good one, no fair jumping.

@urghize 3 года назад

Have you seen or used a ActSafe (ACC, ACX, or PMX) ? Very usefull, in ropeaccess we use them constantly, but its always interesting to see other acenders. Thx for posting

@stihlgotit 3 года назад

No I haven't, I'll have to check that out.

@wart6094 3 года назад

Actsafe stand alone above the rest of all other electric rope winches, but costs 5 times what other winches cost.

@willardgreenfield650 5 лет назад

As the rope sheath is being degraded from ascending without disengaging & holding the brake open, the tension is lessened, due to the rope continuous degradation. If the tension is set properly & hold open the brake just before or at the same time you start the ascent, you may find positive result. Note that the tension screw knob works the opposite of what you would intuitively assume, out ccw for more tension, in cw for less.

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

This version said one hand operation. Clearly you are talking about the original that you have to hold the brake open, do you own one or are you just trying to sound uneducated?

@willardgreenfield650 Год назад

@@stihlgotit F.O.

@stihlgotit Год назад

@@willardgreenfield650 yes sur! Right. Away sur! 🤣

@julianwightwick.5301 Год назад

Listen alot of ya'll are here posting genuine comments towards the product I "Googled are rope lifts real like call of duty". Glad to be here. Lmao

@OldSloGuy 3 года назад

I've got a Ronin. It is a little finicky. If you ;need to move your tie in point, the options are not attractive. Mostly, you use a throw ball to advance the TIP. Then descend to th;e ground, and walk out enough additional line to account for any higher TIP, release the anchor point and pull down the rope. Then, use the throw line to pull the rope over the new TIP and re-anchor the rope. Now, ascend again. If you are working a tall tree, the ride is nice, but the battery won't last the day. If you want it to ride to the TIP and then change equipment to work the tree, you can leave it at the tip and after descending with the other gear, release the basal anchor and tie the rope into a loop.This will allow ;you to lower the Ronin and then untie the rope and run it through the Ronin. This won't work if you have an eye splice at the anchor. The technique is entirely different compared to a Wraptor.

@alexmollera6672 3 года назад

First version... so poor.. at the moment 3rd version works well, but i got a lot of problems....

@stihlgotit 3 года назад

Part of being on the pre-order is getting to work out all the bugs for everyone else. The power reverse on the newer version and the guard to block accidentally hitting the thumb wheel would be nice.

@willardgreenfield650 5 лет назад

the instruction state you must hold the brake lever opened while ascending, other wise it will chew the rope sheath to shreds...

@OldSloGuy 5 лет назад

Are you serious?

@mombox8753 4 года назад

@@OldSloGuy yes. it happened to us it was all gummed up and clogged in the gears/cogs the manufacturer repaired it for free however.

@jtwolf6106 Год назад

You only have to hold the brake lever open while loading the rope so the rope end can exit without being obstructed. You do not have to continue holding the brake open while ascending.

@neekniggit3606 4 года назад

So it's been more than a year. How's it working out for you?

@stihlgotit 4 года назад

It's a nice unit, no complaints other than not having adequate instructions to start with.

@arboristBlairGlenn 8 месяцев назад

Wrong rope?

@stihlgotit 8 месяцев назад

No, bad instructions. It was the rope they included with it. This was one of the very first. I pre-ordered it before they were made. They said use the absolute least amount of tension that doesn't slip. Now they say it is ok to run with a reasonable amount of tension. They said if you put too much on it there was a risk of burning the motor out. This one doesn't have reverse like the new ones either.

@elclonivan 4 года назад

did you look at your rope? It tear it off when I couldn't walk, now it's not safe

@stihlgotit 4 года назад

Yeah it can be rough on the rope, but if you reach out to them, they will help you get it dialed in.

@dougiequick1 2 года назад

IMHO you should redo this video and mercifully spend some time pointing the camera at the unit from various angles and give some brief explanations how it works etc ....this video I found not satisfying my curiosity ....my guess is you shut off dislike count for a reason?

@stihlgotit 2 года назад

I haven't shut off anything on the video. This video is quite old. I do have other videos of this unit. You can check them out and see if those are better.

@babiesfartingfire6007 2 года назад

Umm.... youre not using the ronin rope....

@justanothertreeguy6997 2 года назад

Yes, this is the PMI rope they supplied as part of the kit I bought. Look at the date of this video. This was one of the very first units. They didn't have the kinks worked out yet. They are good to go now. The newer units even have reverse. Mine does not.

@willardgreenfield650 5 лет назад

also if the tensioner is not set correctly it may chew your rope sheath to shreds...

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

Did you even watch the video? I stated clearly in the video there was no change in tension between when it worked fine and when it ate the rope. Also at this point instructions clearly stated use the least amount of tension that will not slip.

@daveelliott8116 3 года назад

What shoes are you wearing in this video

@stihlgotit 3 года назад

Arbortec Scafell Lites

@daveelliott8116 3 года назад

Thanks for the reply

@kennethrogers1129 3 года назад

Hmm, idea of it is cool, but it sure makes a lot of noise...oh Lord and it destroys the rope! Not good!!

@stihlgotit 3 года назад

They have refined the instructions and it is not as hard on the rope now. It does have an annoying whine though.

@steppoffaith8426 4 года назад

You still likening the Ronan

@stihlgotit 4 года назад

Yeah it works well if it's a long ascent. It's faster to just ascend, but you can get up there and still be fresh.

@Gabriel.4190 5 лет назад

How do you latch the rope to the top of the tree. If you say climb and tie it that makes the unit worthless.

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

Set my rope like normal with a throw line.

@Gabriel.4190 5 лет назад

@@stihlgotit Appreciate it. I'm interested in the subject of tree cutting and am still learning.

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

@@Gabriel.4190 My other Ronin video shows one of the ways I set it up.

@mombox8753 4 года назад

we use the big shot

@yusef54321 2 года назад

They’re absolutely garbage 🗑 I picked mine up by the handle that has the toggle switch and it literally popped right off…yeah get a wraptor and be done ✅

@billambrose3944 6 лет назад

Ive been looking at this lift for over a year now , I see the price has gone up substantially , How do you like it ? Thanks TheTreeGuy

@stihlgotit 6 лет назад

It works well, the issues I had in this video were all related to tension. Once you get that figured out and dialed in it is a great device. I would recommend it.

@billambrose3944 6 лет назад

@@stihlgotit I just saw your unboxing vid , I tried to order the compleat kit also, was told 6 month wait didnt want to put out the $ till it was in stock ,now they dont sell the kit

@stihlgotit 6 лет назад

Yeah the kit was a pre-order deal. I ordered this one in March. Other than the extra battery and the rope I didn't need the rest of it. I have a saddle and helmet that was included to use as a shelf ornament, but it was worth it for the battery and rope.

@billambrose3944 6 лет назад

@@stihlgotit Is the rope you were using from them or one of yours , Ive been climbing tooo long 52 yrs old now LOL , I need a break, after any long climb , Have a small buckit 40' but for 100+ this would be nice TheTreeGuy

@stihlgotit 6 лет назад

@@billambrose3944 this was a rope supplied by them. It was a PMI 11mm rope.

@fmunoz162 3 года назад

Are you still using it

@stihlgotit 3 года назад

Yes, I still have it. Really only comes out once in awhile for long ascents or multiple long ascents in one day.

@fmunoz162 3 года назад

Did you figure out why the rope was ripping

@stihlgotit 3 года назад

@@fmunoz162 yeah, they came out with new instructions shortly after this video and it fixed the problem. Originally they said only set enough tension to ascend to keep from working the motor excessively, but now just give it a decent amount of tension no problem.

@fmunoz162 3 года назад

Thanks

@justinhubbard3050 5 лет назад

Seems good for tree guys but I dont think I'd trust it 300+ feet on a cell tower like I am

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

Yeah it's a good tool, it has a place. Anything at height is a calculated risk.

@xrp4life589 5 лет назад

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@jasonnelson8788 5 лет назад

because it would hurt so much less to fall 200ft?

@staho9796 Год назад

@@jasonnelson8788 HE HE HE !!! YES

@willardgreenfield650 5 лет назад

may want to read the instructions a dozen times or more until you have completely understood every detail.

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

Haha, I read them clearly. At this point there was very little for instructions and no videos from the company like there is now. Look at the date I posted this video. Most people didn't even know this product existed.

@willardgreenfield650 Год назад

@@stihlgotit F.O.

@ElectronicMarine 5 лет назад

1500 euro... maybe in somme fields has a market... but oterwise it look like an overpriced toy...

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

Nice for 100' ascents. You can get into the upper canopy and still be fresh. Especially if you are doing multiple long ascents in a day.

@kylegagnon71 5 лет назад

ElectronicMarine we about to use one of a 800’ tower, see how she goes

@garza727 5 лет назад

,,😳😳😳😁😁

@jolllyroger1 3 года назад

Looks like a bad shitty piece if equipment

@lgtreeservicecorp7275 5 лет назад

Hey get a gas power im been using more than 14 years

@stihlgotit 5 лет назад

I rarely have anything big enough to use one and this one works well for the price. I picked it up for about $1500 with two batteries charger and rope. Only thing big enough here is 100' cottonwoods. If I was using one often I would consider the Wraptor.