Was hiring a welder and placed an ad online through indeed. Guy shows up pushing a shopping cart and asked if i was still hiring. I was puzzled and walked him in. Ran hoops through everything. I paid for a weekly hotel, bought some walmart clothes and groceries for him. Best employee and friend ever. Divorce ruined him and he is now living much better.
That's awesome that you gave him a chance instead of turning him away because of things that don't really affect the job anyway. Changed a man's whole outlook, I'd wager. Good on ya!
Welder, see’s a wanted ad in the paper, welder needed, 25$-55$ an hour. Welder comes in for the interview, same scenario as the video. The welder is left to perform his welds, supervisor returns to inspect them. The welder has completed two welds side by side. One weld looks like it was done by a high school kid who just smoked a joint, the other was the finest weld he had ever seen. The supervisor asks him, what’s going on and why the quality of the welds are so drastically different. Welder: The ad stated that the position paid 25$-55$ an hour Supervisor: Yeah… Welder: Well, that there weld on the left is a 25$ an hour weld, an the one on the right is a 55$ an hour weld, which one would you like sir?
@@darketernal3 I think you missed the point in the story about he basically stay stated as a new hire is going to get what you pay for and since he hasn't been hired this is the negotiation obviously he's capable capable of a high skill and that's what he'll get also probably not a real situation just a story to make a point
@@darketernal3 that's what he was doing though, negotiating. He was using this demonstration to negotiate his starting pay based on the information given in the wanted ad.
>Be me >Watch video >Be unsure as to whether the weld is good or not >Come to comments to find out whether thr weld is good or not >Have to scroll for 5 solid minutes to find an actual explanation that this is a hella good weld >Video loops that entire time
@user-qf6ze9kx7x >Be this guy >Don't know what a greentext post is >Get answer in the form of another greentext-style post >Hopefully understand that it's just a stylistic choice made for the fun of it
I hired a kid right out of welding school. He was very talented! After testing him thoroughly in everything from fit up through welding, I asked him how much he thought was a fair price for his work. He asked for $15 hr.... I knew of his young wife through my wife, and I knew they had a new baby. .. I told him I was wasn't going to pay him $15 hr. And I scolded him for low balling himself. I insisted on starting him at $20 and said that if his attendance and attitude was good, Id raise him to $25....by the time his first paycheck came due, I gave him the raise, it was obvious to me this kid was the best employee I'd ever had the privilege to work with.. For context, this was back in 2007.
It does look pretty good, except the top bead on the back side not lapped as good as the rest. Wonder how he got out of line at that spot? Certified welder local 492
Yeah, the welds are ok. But was the fillet in the plans, or was it supposed to go straight vertical to the plate it was welded onto? Cause if the fillet was extra, he WAY overdid it.
As someone that has 22 years of being alive I can confirm that this is in fact without a single ounce of doubt the upmost waste of your time reading my comment
For those who don't now, this is fantastic work. If for $25/hour for one hour of work you think this welder only deserves $25 then you're ignorant. Especially since the company probably charge the client $800 for this job, if not more. $25/hour is 2005. This is 2024. Want better employees deserving of this quality of welding, pay them an appropriate wage, don't undercut him. Give him $40/hr. Minimum.
This wasn't done with stick. We all need more money but this isn't all you need to be able to do to earn $25 - let alone $40 where I live. Don't get butt hurt - I am just chiming in.
@@StraitD2 no way. That saggy maggy screams flux core to me. Those beads were deposited hot, and way, way faster than stick. Best sign is the tack job. Unless that stick was finger sized, you cant put down that much material without a blowout. Also, look at that tack job, one more time. It has the wire feed divot. Unmistakable.
@@kylelaughinghouse1893 3D printing and welding are pretty much the same concept except welding is usually used to stick things together. You could make something entirely out of welding rods,
My dad knew a machinist/welder who was pretty talented. He made custom artwork from time to time. One day he decided to make a sculpture for our local arena. (Job fairs, motorcross, concerts all types of things are held there year round). He named it the portal to earth, it was nothing more than a warped oval shaped piece that was 3 Dimensional, it stood about 15-20 feet tall and 5 feet wide or so. Our city unveiled it talking about how creative it was and how amazing it is, it was in the newspaper and on local news stations. What everyone would ask is, what is it? The machinist would simply reply “it’s a portal to earth” (or a portal to the new world can’t remember). Well people wouldnt really ask what that meant except my dad. And when my dad asked him “what the hell does portal to earth mean?” The machinist chuckled a little bit, he said “you’re the first person to actually ask me that” the machinist began to giggle uncontrollably and through his teary eyes of laughter “ITS A VAGINA, ITS A DAMN PUSSY, AND THEY TOTE IT AROUND LIKE A TROPHY” my dad laughed his ass off and told me several years later. I about pissed myself laughing when my old man told me the story
For real.. this ain’t 2008 where 12.50 an hour was like 25.. I been doing hvac for 16 years and got paid that and could still pay my bills.. I make 35 now and am broke 😢 fuckin inflation dude it’s crazy
What are you smoking? Showing up on time doesn’t increase your worth and damn sure doesn’t earn you 50k per year. Get off the drugs and shut the fuck up
@@ludvig3242nah I live in WA state and 35 an hour is rough af to live on if you don’t live in some getto trash apartment by yourself. Congratulations you live somewhere with a lower cost of living, not everyone does you know.
This is called a two-way test. You test his welding ability, he tests your ability to be his boss. If he says $25 and you give it to him, he knows you ain't shit and ge can find a better boss. You offer $45, he knows you'll treat him fair.
@@tygerRips no if your ask for something. And your good that’s what they will give you. You always ask for what your worth and what you want. And usually more. And then negotiations from there. It’s like buying a car or something. If you ask for $5,000 and the care is worth $15,000 no one is going to say hey nah let me give you $15,000 instead of the $5,000 you asked for.
Here is the thing. You show the set up and the finish outer passes. What do the inside passes look like? How did he layer his passes? Was it pressure tested to inspect for cracks or breakage? This all matters if you are hiring a welder. A hiring supervisor would not just walk away and say have at it. That’s a big task.
My dad was a welder most his adult life , 13 yrs in a shop in Chicago he was explaining a fill weld one day , I asked him if he enjoyed it he said sometimes except when the project goes on for days n days in a row , then he explained how tool die presses had to be rebuilt and they would fill many feet of weld into gaps several feet thick , literally 1000s of hot passes , it never sank in as a kid or young man even how hard that man must've worked all I knew was a humble guy w/arms like Popeye that loved us enough to do all this , Now I see dad r.i.p. pops.😢
I've done all kinds of different welding in different environments. These pad eyes were common back in my shipyard days. They would take a lot longer than an hour to let the welds cool after every pass. Regardless, decent welds, but nothing too difficult at all. But I agree, worth at least 25 an hour especially showing up 5 days a week day in and out!
Correction. He requested 25 an hr. His WELDS demand 40 an Jr. I’d pay his welds what they ask, or another company happily will as they know they can park him on any job and can rest easy knowing it will get done as it should or better. As a company owner, that is priceless.
Makes sense, if youre that good at your job and you lowball them after showing them your work and they dont try to pay you more, thats not the place youd wanna work anyways.
Looks like a good weld, the reflow is smooth and clean. Given the size, that seems like an appropriate fill profile, although without seeing how it was done we don't know if there are any voids or not?
As a licensed mechanical engineer in several states with 10+ years of experience, I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that what I see in this youtube short is a digital simulation representative of two scenarios, both intending to persuade the viewer that metal has stuck to metal.
Not sure if you're shocked that he only wants $25/hr for this work, or insulted that he would dare ask for $25/hr. I've paid laborers $20/hr just to lug lumber. I hope you offered him a lot more than what he was "demanding".
@@J.C... Maybe, maybe not. But it's interesting that you say that with as much confidence as someone who was there when it was made. It 'could' be bs is a safer bet. People who speak in absolutes disappoint themselves more often than not, my friend. Be careful with that practice. It's led society to the state it's in today...
It's a 2 way test.. he gets tested on his welding capabilities and him asking a humble wage tests the employer if he'll treat him right. An employer should offer a fair price for good workmanship.
When they were building a pipeline in Australia I ask one welder why did they use a machine instead of hand welding... He said the machine didn't turn up drunk on a Monday. 😂😂
Sounds like any city in the world that has a cashier and a liquor store right next to each other especially in the hood liquor store Chinese food on Crown Chicken call Kennedy Chicken
I'm a director of transportation and I fight with my district all the time about how they need to pay my drivers more before we lose them all! Thank you for doing what you do!
Thank you, it often gets tough dealing with unruly kids, but I love interacting with them and seeing their young minds growing. I did trivia with them the last month of school and handed out prizes. We all had a great time. Somebody has to care.. but yes, it is tough to stay sometimes.
@@Neamiah101 I love every day that I fill in a route or drive a trip! Those are the best days! I work at a really small school district with just 7 daily routes in a state that really doesn't love public school. No one in my department gets paid enough, but as much as I'd like to get paid more, I want my drivers to catch up first!
@@Neamiah101 I’m a bud driver too gave to do cpc and courses to make sure I’m covering all health n safety regs I get crb checked every five years that’s more than any other profession A pilot gets 80-100 k a train driver 50 k plus a lorry driver 35k plus A bus driver 25 k No money for all that so called professional qualifications A utter disgrace
Ty for that little piece of knowledge ! I was like $25/hrs sounds good but that's coming from me who has only worked up to that number, never started with it. But glad to know he deserved more.
@@JesseReid-ut2ot $25 per hour is a decent wage for welders with solid basic skills, but a master level welder like this could easily earn double that.
@@vital4644_ I work adjacent to the us department of labor and long haul truckers often get paid per load or per mile and aren't paid NEARLY enough for a job that basically keeps them "at work" 24 hours a day while on a run. It's disgusting.
He's testing you no less than you're testing him. If you say anything less than $50 an hour, he's gonna smile, thank you for your time, walk out the door and ghost your ass.
@@softjones3128 I'm hired at 25 an hour to sand and strip... I feel bad for a welder who gets hired by you making less than what an hour of min wage in 1998 was worth
You should have hired him. He KNOWS his worth. Judging by your tone you think he is worth less than $25. This is what happens when guy with mid-wielding skills is running the interviews.
@@EugeneMitchem you might know welding, but art is in the eye of the beholder ;-) There's probably some rich prick out there willing to pay $50K for that!
You're joking about the robot, right ? 🤣 My God that's some horrible welding. Looks like those 3D printed structures, like a big-long continuous turd...
@Enju ....but welding is a literal SKILLED TRADE. Loving that not these greedy, sick-minded capitalists now include trades as "unskilled labour" now so they excuse paying them minimum wage or close to it.
As an electronics repair technician with over a decade of experience I can in fact confirm that that is metal I am looking at and it is a fixed to another piece of metal and very securely by the looks of it.
@@christonkinson8473...you would think after all these years of shopping carts, the wobbly wheel would be the last failure of cart shopping! I had one, the last one available, needed to move two cases of water....nope the first case acted like the cart was bagged. I dragged a long black line through Giant.
@@chief2717welds look amazing and badass, not “cold rolled”, haven’t been “wire wheeled” either. That’s the natural look of the filler, yeah, looks killer! Great job to the man who showcased his skill here! 👍👏
Also because you have skill Doesn’t mean your capable of leading teams. Two completely different skill sets. In my experience they usually don’t go hand and hand. However if you find one of those, they are very rare, you do not let them go.
A quick word from en entrepreneur: The better you perform as worker, the longer you keep and stay on that position. They rather get someone from outside to be manager rather than a good worker to be manager because if you work as manager who gonna be the good worker? You might not perform any good as manager. In this case a wielder turn to wielding manager?
@@caninphxTrue personal skill requires logic and seeing the truth. Leading a team requires complete bastardisation of logic and compromising at every turn to keep the team happy and morale high
The weld tacks at each end would have to be ground off. Pre heat the weld area with a rosebud due to thickness.The hot root pass starts at the beginning of the bevel meeting the table and then stack your overlap beads with minimal undercut. Not way floating as such. That is a picking eye that will end up being used to lift something very heavy. Probably requiring exray.
Look, I'm a Marxist and I'm all for the regulation of surplus labor exploitation and probably that company could be paying 40 an hour starting and start making a profit, BUT... I'm also a welder and those welding lines are NOT worth ANY salary, let alone one with surplus exploitation addressed. I guess this job uses GMAW rather than SMAW, since it appears to be an industrial production setting in a closed facility (GMAW protection gas is susceptible to wind, which is why it's more appropriate in factories and such, rather than open air construction and repairs) and though GMAW welding lines aren't the prettiest, specially when using MAG with active protection gas, rather than MIG with inert protection gas, this ones are still too ugly. If I knew the exact size of the piece, and other factors such as the carbon content/chemical composition of both the piece and the GMAW feeding wire, or the heat treatments involved in its production itself, I could even make an accurate guess on how to do it better.
No where pays dual shield welders $40 an hour lmao Edit: Except union! Go get full benefits and $60 an hour. I'm in process of joining UA local 290 as a pipefitter. I did a few dual shield jobs in heavy equipment manufacturing and the top guys were only getting $35.
Is that good? I'm no welder, onlyntook a class, but wouldn't one create a clean groove and start/tack that on first? Then build up the "collar"? Curious
To those wondering, that's not just a proper weld..And its not an exaggerated weld either; this man inferred that the size and mass of the piece he is welding means it may be subjected to extreme loads, so he laid down a substantial weld which will add strength. That will ensure the piece will actually function properly.
I understand but the tone of voice he used in saying the gentleman demanded $25 for a weld like that is peanuts where I’m from besides California and Massachusetts where $25 is like minimum wage. $25 demand is nothing a journey man welder or metal fabricator in MA on average is $25-$28 bucks an hour
Incorrect!!! The weld size, is predetermined, in the drawings. This is a lifting lug, and a Double Beveled CJP. The welding Procedure already exists. With voltage/amps/preheat/travel speed/required filler metal, etc. (Known as essential variables, for welding) All he has to do, as a welder, is follow the instructions. While still a talent, and an art, It's in NO WAY, the decision of the welder, how the joint is configured/weld size/filler metal/and all the other variables. He just has to do it right.
Beautiful weld! Perfect fillet size, nice symmetry, no undercuts! I used to weld show pieces for a marine construction co and thats the sorta thing they were looking for.
I dont know much about welding either but can usually tell whats good and whats not, when you see "stacked dimes" thats usually a good sign and tbis is definitely a good one.. this isnt stacked dimes however
@@nickstrom2306 this appears to be a flux core weld which should NEVER have a stacked dimes look. If a flux core weld does have that look it will fail due to trapped slag between the 'dimes'. This guy even wrapped the corners.
@@totalcardetailing2022we don’t, we just point things out and then get a professional at that specific job to come fix it or do it while we make sure they are doing it in a safe manner and calling them out if they aren’t using the proper ppe lol
My first welding job was 8$ an hour on graveyard for Fabtech Motorsports. Now with fast food workers making over $20 an hour there is no hope for the future of our industry. Especially when shops are still paying in the low $20s and lower.
@@nathandevine552 people complain and don't understand this was a quick example, so im gonna change it, watch a video called "the everything crisis" you'll understand what I meant after.
@@ichosedebateoveranger1520 lol you sound like you think flipping burgers is a career if employees of a fast food joint were paid 25 an hr you would have to pay a lot more for your burger or they would just shut the business down because it was no longer profitable kinda like what is happening in California right now
He's testing you now. He demanded 25 but knows he's worth more. If you accept him at 25 and don't bump him then he will know you don't respect quality and experience.
I work in the industrial abrasives business and I was in a customer's shop and they made stainless steel tanks. The welds on these were absolutely amazing and I commented to the floor chief "that is no $25/hour welder's work, they are getting a lot more than that!" He quipped "well that is a $85/hour welder's work and she is right over there putting down more welds." He said even at $85/hour she saved him money.
Sounds like the boss is screwing over the employee. The whole idea of “saving money” means that they’re extracting more profits off of the employee’s hard work.
@@cooper5324businesses don’t operate to break even. You have to make a profit to be worth the effort and risk of owning a business. You are confusing that with non-profit organizations.
As a Field Artillery Officer in charge of directing and controlling fire support requests in an Armor brigade, I can say that’s definitely not a howitzer, mortar, or other fire support asset.
Good welders can write their own ticket. Story about a guy who was asked to show what he could do at an interview. He did 2 welds and turned to the boss and said: “ that one is a $25/hr weld and that one over there is a $40/hr weld. Whichever one you want is up to you.” This guy here is a $40/hr at least
@@phreaktor of course they did. The biss also invited him over to sleep with his wife and teach his son how to be a man, too. In fact, shortly after, he stepped down and the new hire was promoted to his boss's old position. Within a year, he purchased the company outright. Put two offer on the table, turned to the owners and said "that one is a 25 million dollar offer, all up front. That one over there is 40 million over 40 years. Whichever one you want is up to you."
Depends on the state and the job. Some states pay 23 an hour for that weld and other's 45. How fast you fit and weld determines the wage. But that looks good.
He's asking for 25 and that's a deal and you're acting like that's a lot of money. I mean you're making a big profit at every job. I mean he was there a lot round a lot longer if he treated him well? But everybody wants good work for cheap doesn't work life ain't cheap
That's more than I make as an engineer 12 years into my career 😅 (But, labor prices are suppressed where I am, as is cost of living. I could make a lot more moving, but I like where I live for other reasons)
Why being greedy?? That’s the biggest problem with America now in days. Every company, corporation etc. Now in days is running with 50-60% profit if not more. So why being cheap on highly qualified labor.
Side note for *any* job advertising a salary range. When it comes to pay and they ask what you're looking to be paid and you say something like "between 75-85K." Just remember, they hear 75 and you hear 85. Always better to state a specific pay with supporting reasons as to way.
TF7 if your good like that young man I would say the going rate is between 45 to 55 an hour you must be confident and hold steadfast this is a skilled craft and we need to be paid accordingly I don't believe you have to go much into details to explain your work will speak for itself you have valid points friend 37 years experience certified welder/structural fabricator
To your point, if you want 85k, say your range is 85-95. They go low, you thoughtfully consider and say thank you, that’ll work. A friend of mine did that years ago. Spent his career with that one company. They knew he was good, gave him compensation and recognition. He gave them loyalty and was there when they needed him. Good employment is a two way street.
This video encourage me to take a six-course 3 month welding training class. Im 68 and i pass all positions on welding with tig - mig - flux - and oxygen and acetylene, pipe welding gain 5 certificate's pass all written test. I will be looking for welding work soon, with God's help 😊 thanks 👍
I'm 65. Had 2 career's in my life. A) 22+ yrs in Kitchens/Restaurant, became a Chef. B) 27 yrs in Security/Law Enforcement. Worked Lvl 1, Lvl 2, Lvl 3, became a P.I. ! (Private Investigator), Bank Guard, Body Guard, courier, etc... I'm going to enjoy what I have left. Ya know, I've NEVER been on a Vacation! Seriously!
Im a Level III Inspector.... I cant tell you how many welds I've seen where the cap looks beautiful... Until I place my transducer on the base metal and saw whats underneath
He's clearly on another level, I'd ask what he wants per hour to work for me, and what he would charge to train other welders. That's a brilliant weld. Keeper.
@@Volair because welding takes skill... If you can't see how clean that is...then you probably don't understand the level of skill it takes to make a weld as this ..
@@BendApparatus What gave away the fact that I know nothing about welding? The part where I said "I clearly know nothing"? Or the part where I asked why it was a good weld? Hopefully someone can actually say something useful.
@@Volair it's not that complicated genius...try learning any skill that requires technique and practice and you may be able to figure it out from observation... Stay mad...lol
@@BendApparatus ? Why would I be mad at your inability to share information in any useful manner? There's certainly someone smarter than you who can be helpful. Not sure why you're being a turd about a genuine question. Seems pretty silly.
I started a shop job a month and a half ago as a laborer starting at $20/hr with almost no real welding experience. Just very basic knowledge. I was given a 5 minute lesson by a professional welder and was told to weld a month in. I was just recently bumped up to $25/hr and have been given the chance to spend a lot of time welding final products. Being a good worker, the willingness to learn, with the ability to be taught will pay off. It might not be highest pay but it’s the most I’ve ever made hourly and I get to get paid to learn something I love to do. I hope to get to the level of expertise of the welds in this video some day!
Whatever loser it's your life to waste, you want to talk like hard work pays off but in today's world it's all about TAKING what you want. I have been working all last year in taking money from the government, did you know a woman who got a DUI (straight up drunk driver) sued the city of Philadelphia and won millions? What's the point of being away from your kids and family to work some dumb welding job
If anyone wants to know how to become a welder in the shop of their choice, I would recommend you be self motivated and a demonstratively hard worker. Welding doesn’t require you to work like a dog all the time, but like any other trade nobody will invest their time teaching you if you don’t demonstrate a willingness to learn. I have a successful welding career not because I spent money on certifications and treated it like a white collar career, I made my own job. There are a lot of things to be welded, find what suits you and work hard at it, it will become easy.
As a guy that works for a major military ship builder, that padeye was welded perfectly, the only way it might be better is if it was auto-machine welded. He's worth every bit of 40 dollars an hour..!!
As a Patient Care Technician in the hospital for the last few year. I can confirm that that Liquid Metal stuff connected the block metal thing to the metal table 👌👌
you are absolutely 💯 % correct OG huero guy is skilled not some bozo that will cut our skilled craft for less than 25.00 get paid what your worth I would pay him 45.00 to start I've been a certified welder/fabricator for 37 years experience some of these so called managers don't even know how to weld or fabricate Brothers our craft is needed all over the world get paid !!!
Almost 20 years ago, I did a weld test and was offered $25/hr to start. I was only a first year apprentice too. That welding looks like it should be worth more than $25/hr ... That's very nice work
I came straight out of high school making $25 an hour in the 90s. Could work as many hours as we wanted and got $500 per week per diem. I know a 55 year old welder with a 6th grade education making 115k a year
Depends where you live and what you can do. Around where I live youre lucky to get 20 which is why I do travel contracting which makes so much more money. On a waiting list for 40 an hour 120 per diem but thats only if I pass all the tests 1 test is 28 @brandonbullins
@@renethumann4871 for your sake I hope you know what you’re taking about cause it’ll be real sad if you turn off your phone and see a know it all that knows nothing looking back at you
@@jasongorilla3926imagine getting ratio’d by op’s comment thinking u know what ur talking about😂😂😂 in comparison i make 25$ an hour lifting furniture. Somehow i dont think working with hot slag, and moving furniture, are just quite on the same playing field, but yknow…. Thats just me😂
@nathanmeilleur4749 besides, you're avoiding the question. This dude doesn't deserve 25 an hour on any planet. Imagine that all you know about welding is to spell the word slag.
