Shawn, quail and Prairie Chicken don't run much, and the dogs can relocate them if need be. There is a lot of area to cover, and a big running dog is a huge help. I generally have more than one dog on the ground that have different ranges, and the bigger running dogs find the majority of the birds. They will stay on point as long as it takes me to get there. Do I every have birds that have run off, yes. But I get many more birds pointed and shot with the dogs with more range. There are people that don't like a lot of range. that is fine, but they are missing out on the reason pointing dogs were bred, and that is to hunt well outside gun range.
Once the birds flush i allow them to move, but not before the birds flush. I have had some of my dogs fully broke, where they do not move till released.
sooo, I'm thinking of getting a stoger side by side. I'm torn though, should I get the 410 for fun shooting? or the 12G for hunting, and whether or not I should get the coachgun or the long gun.
A long barrel 12 gauge is made for hunting, not with cylinder bore barrels however. A Coach gun is only good for short range (40') self defence. In my opinion buy the .410 if you think you might have to shoot someone & you just want to piss them off.
Is that one of those that Academy carries (with the aluminum receiver)? Our daughter has a youth over under version sometimes I carry it too. Nice and light good price for what you get.
I really didn't see him shoot anything except 1 bird, & I don't remember seeing that it was a hen. Also, it's not illegal to shoot a specific # of hens so why the crybaby virtue signaling routine?