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First look at the Carenado Piper PA-28 Archer II in Microsoft Flight Simulator 

Jonathan Beckett
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A first look at the Carenado Piper PA-28 Archer II in Microsoft Flight Simulator - taking it for a quick flight from Boonville to Cloverdale in the US. Along the way we try out some of the avionics, do some stall tests, and have some fun.
Wonderful little plane.
#msfs #carenado #piper #archer #pa28 #asobo #microsoft #aviation #flightsimulator #flying #flight #aircraft #firstlook #review

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@joerodriguez9484
@joerodriguez9484 Год назад
I used to own a PA-28 and was very impressed at how stable it was in the air. I picked up this plane for MSFS the other day and was suitably impressed. It feels like the actual plane. The lack of an autopilot is not a problem as it's incredibly easy to hand fly.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Yep - it really is very, very easy.
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 Год назад
Yep flew the Archer TX which is a new model all glass and that thing is rock stable compared to the C172s I flew!
@GulfCoastTim
@GulfCoastTim Год назад
Carenado is simply an excellent developer of GA aircraft. For high quality aircraft at a fair price, it's hard to go wrong. As you pointed out in this video, this aircraft is impressive both inside and out. I can put a lot of hours flying all over the place with this plane and enjoying every minute of it. Oh and the thumbnail, looks real.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I tend to re-crop the thumbnails and tidy them up so they look nice :)
@woltri68
@woltri68 Год назад
thanks for this brief review. this surely will be my next purchase for the flightsim. maybe carenado does not build the most realistic aircrafts, but they look just wonderful and since I don't fly on vatsim or other online communities and I just fly to relax after a day at the office to cool down its not such a big deal for me (nevertheless I also love the P28 line of just flight) I just like those old fashioned steam gauge cockpits since I did my first "lessons" in the build in "flight school" with the C152. I've had watch quite a few of your reviews and guides and wanted to give you a thank you as it often was helpful and I like your calm kind of presentation.
@juliashenandoah3965
@juliashenandoah3965 Год назад
Uh another GA classic, a true beauty inside! Only in the older days they made such beautyful cockpits instead of "cheaping out and as much purism as possible" design idea. This thing will be an absolute beauty when flying in VR.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
It does look good :)
@dcnolde
@dcnolde Год назад
Thanks for being one of the first ones to review this new aircraft!
@dcnolde
@dcnolde Год назад
Totally agree Carenado look so much like a picture.
@AshleyWincer
@AshleyWincer Год назад
The aircraft looks good. I'll certainly get it for my X-Box flight sim..
@Merci4mercy
@Merci4mercy 11 месяцев назад
I want the Archer 3 which is the one we use for training at my university. This is a very welcome addition though.
@chrispeel9263
@chrispeel9263 Год назад
Great video.Thanks.These do spin quite well depending on fuel/weights.Not sure about now but in the 70s spin recovery was part of the PPL test. Incidentally what you call a compass was known as a DI which you correctly adjusted to match the real compass reading.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Directional giro = direction indicator (at least in my head) :)
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 5 месяцев назад
Spin recovery training was not allowed during my flight training in the early 2000's. I learned to fly in a Piper Cadet and did my final check ride in a Piper Warrior. Very very familiar in these Pipers 😁
@focus82grothm.84
@focus82grothm.84 Год назад
I'm really enjoying this, lovely flying and a great airplane 😊👍
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Many thanks!
@focus82grothm.84
@focus82grothm.84 Год назад
@@jonbeckett My pleasure 😊
@RobisonRacing68
@RobisonRacing68 Год назад
Just a heads up with the click spot to return the tablet to its pocket. It felt like to me like the click spot was wonky but I found if I held the button in it worked everytime. Thanks for the review! I bought it and like it. A lot. :)
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Good to know!
@Steve-ui1ej
@Steve-ui1ej Год назад
Nice plane and good review of it. I think I will be picking it up soon. Sounds like your getting over your cold. Mine lasted about 3 weeks. Not fun, thak care.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Yeah - the cold/cough has been hanging on.
@yams900
@yams900 Год назад
It’s actually very cute ! I always liked these basic aircrafts, hand flying is really fun ! Would be even better without GPS :)
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Год назад
I totally agree with you. 👍🏼
@yams900
@yams900 Год назад
This will be interesting, just started watching. Wonder if I need one more GA, it looks good, though
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I thought the same (for about 30 seconds) lol
@thoughtful_criticiser
@thoughtful_criticiser Месяц назад
The PA28 flaps are mechanical so move instantly, in real world you don't taxi with flaps extended, start with fuel pump on and put it on for take off and landings. You do run up and take off checks prior to departure, check left, right and both magnetos. No flaps needed for normal take off, only short field departure. Rotate about 85mph.
@Itallianmobboss
@Itallianmobboss 4 месяца назад
I flew a cherokee. Pretty much same. But i tried stalling it. It’s very hard
@AymeriX
@AymeriX 4 месяца назад
Hi, Thank you for your video (and YT channel), I'm a french pilot but follow you for the quality of your video. I've a quick question: in Little nav map, what is the theme used in this video (appx 6:09) ? Thank you.
@volkerjansen3901
@volkerjansen3901 Год назад
Beautiful video and good commentary, just clicked the subscribe button. I cannot really tell all those pipers apart. Is there some significant difference to the Just Fligh Warrior II?
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I'll have to get back in the Warrior to tell you. Doesn't the Warrior have an autopilot? The Archer II doesn't.
@thewheelspinreport
@thewheelspinreport Год назад
Do you use a bluetooth keyboard? Mine turns off after a certain time and it freezes the sim when it reconnects.
@MojaveHigh
@MojaveHigh Год назад
Nice review, she's a beauty and definitely fits the Carenado label. Have you tried the new freeware Version 2 mod for the 152?! It is amazing, absolute payware quality, with a tablet, failures, circuit breakers, state saving, maintenance. I am kind of stunned.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I'll have to check that out!
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Год назад
I love it.
@peterbassey9668
@peterbassey9668 Год назад
And where praythee can I get this?! Thanks in advance.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
@@peterbassey9668 you can buy it from the marketplace
@taekatari
@taekatari Год назад
I fly an Archer II IRL and I must say I have never had the wing come anywhere close to dropping when stalling XD
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Yeah - that's what I thought. I was forcing it into a pretty deep stall though. That said - when I threw it into a turning stall and leaned into it - it absolutely wasn't going to spoin or tumble.
@danweston8375
@danweston8375 Год назад
Same...I fly IRL and just mushes, not drop a wing. Be great to tweak those stalls cause it's gorgeous aircraft, well done Carenado. Just wish slow flight was more spot on. Bought and will enjoy it.
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 5 месяцев назад
The Cadet and Warrior I flew IRL did drop wings when stalling but was mushy at first.
@Wilber913
@Wilber913 Год назад
Really enjoying this 👌🏻. And a great price
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
It's a great plane.
@GumperVanLier
@GumperVanLier Год назад
I've got the Just Flight Piper Warriors and Arrow. This is similar but you get a crude autopilot with the other models.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
You do :) The JustFlight is the Arrow III - this is the II
@lipslide101
@lipslide101 Год назад
FYI, the Just Flight PA28's are not yet updated for the new flightmodel msfs uses since the last update. They are not realistic at all to fly and way too twitchy at the moment... This plane, however, flies perfectly as it should in real life. Source: I'm a student pilot who flies the warrior in real life
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Год назад
Interesting News I did not know about. Thanks for telling us. I have found them to be quite heavy when landing and they do act a bitweird in their flight behaviors. So that's the reason then? I thought that just flights planes was going to be updated kind of often. Are they abandon or of the about to release new updates?
@lipslide101
@lipslide101 Год назад
@@rymdskrotet They said they would update the pipers but it's been a while already :(
@CryptoBlog230
@CryptoBlog230 Год назад
I hope A2Ac172 will come to MSFS soon.
@renevandop7333
@renevandop7333 Год назад
It’s a cute plane. It does make me wish JustFlight hurried up with fixing their Arrows. They’ve been parked in the hangar for months now 😢
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Are they broken? I've got them - not tried them for a while.
@renevandop7333
@renevandop7333 Год назад
@@jonbeckett Let’s say their flightmodel has not kept pace with Asobos updates over the last half year. It’s behaving a bit erratically sometimes. I don’t like flying them at the moment. They are working on it though!
@yams900
@yams900 Год назад
Good educational video ! Do you have your PPL yet Jon ? What GPU are you using, such sharp picture!
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
No - no PPL :) GPU is NVIDIA 3080 - my monitor here is in 4K - I downrate it to 1080P in OBS for RU-vid.
@yams900
@yams900 Год назад
@@jonbeckett Very good picture, super sharp ! Thinking of upgrading 3070Ti but it won’t make me a better Pilot 👨‍✈️ :) We’ll see
@ellonysman
@ellonysman Год назад
Fire en commrnt...good one
@VonHoffnung
@VonHoffnung 2 месяца назад
What issues come from the PMS50 750nx?
@845SiM
@845SiM Год назад
On the fence with this one, lots of these planes already released going to watch your video and see what makes it better than the others
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
It's just a bit of variety really.
@bcsimpilot3497
@bcsimpilot3497 Год назад
I see a brown panel...other times I see a black panel. Is that interchangeable for some reason Mr.Beckett?
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett 11 месяцев назад
The different liveries have different interiors.
@Ngamer834
@Ngamer834 Год назад
Looks like a nice plane but I wouldn't bother myself already owning the Warrior 2 from Just flight seems to similar.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
It is similar - still good fun though :)
@CTTechGaming
@CTTechGaming Год назад
What is your views on this Vs the just flight version ? I have the JF and wonder if it's worth getting this or just sticking with that
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
It seems to behave a little more predictably. It's worth noting that it's not the same aeroplane though - the JustFlight version is the Archer III.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
The JustFlight Archer III has an autopilot too, if that's important to you.
@CTTechGaming
@CTTechGaming Год назад
@@jonbeckett just seen it's the warrior 2 that just flight do not the archer 2 so mainly engine differences
@azcharlie2009
@azcharlie2009 3 месяца назад
No autopilot is a killer on this one. I've owned this and it's too bad, because the flight characteristics of the airplane are very good. Very much like the real thing. I'm still looking for a good PA28-181 Archer II that matches my real Archer II. The Just Flight Xplane Archer III is way too unstable, and it stalls at way to high an airspeed.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett 3 месяца назад
But... but... the X-Plane crowd will lynch you for saying that! You can't question the flight modelling in X-Plane - that's as bad as blaspheming in St Peter's Square :) lol
@mikepapahotel
@mikepapahotel Год назад
Damn Jonathon - you're a video production machine! 😂✊🏻
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I had a night with little else going on for a change :)
@ellonysman
@ellonysman Год назад
I always wanted the Cherokee 140 but bought the pa28 arrow...oh well
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I'm sure they will all arrive in the simulator eventually :)
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Год назад
Why do I want to get this Piper if I already have the Piper bundle from Just Flight? What's you unique about this special aircraft? Inte thought they wore quite similar? Is this in some way a less complicated plane or is it more powerful or....? Please let me know. 👍🏼
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
It flies more nicely - the JustFlight aircraft need an update :)
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Год назад
@@jonbeckett I see. Did not know that. How to tell if the aircrafts I own are using the latest flight model supported in FS2020? I actually got it, Im a bit confused about the closer view out of the front window....that big hump is weird. Are we looking down over the hood more than straight outside? Also...when lookning left and right true the side windoes (pov control on joystick used, not with mouse) you are VERY close to the window (especially right window). Its like you suddenly are the co-captain. I just wonder why Carenado choosed to do like that? (ive seen it in other planes from them as well). Thanks for a great channel btw! =) =)
@rymdskrotet
@rymdskrotet Год назад
@@jonbeckett Hmmm...forgot to tell you. Im not sure about the physics. I could fly upside down at low speed with very good flight caresteristics still there. Thats weird. Also...the engine seem to loose power, but never stalled. Would it do that in real life?
@phillp7777
@phillp7777 2 месяца назад
how u get a Piper Warrior on MSFS Fx ? does it come w it ? or gotta get via Carenado ?
@-caesarian-6078
@-caesarian-6078 День назад
Just flight makes a Piper Warrior 2 for MSFS, it costs $46. There are no Warriors or other Cherokee-likes in the base game.
@timothystockman7533
@timothystockman7533 Год назад
Does the electric elevator trim work?
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I think so :)
@mikecoffee100
@mikecoffee100 Год назад
I do wish someone else would have made this aeorplane and good video by the way
@firefox3187
@firefox3187 Год назад
Many a circuit has been bashed and bumped in a PA-28 A2 without an auto pilot
@jameslangford3613
@jameslangford3613 Год назад
Can't help but feel a bit disappointed in the lack of overhead switch panel for Carenado's version of the Archer. How else are us PA28 people supposed to feel like airline pilots??
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 5 месяцев назад
What PA28 airplane had overhead switches? Granted I haven't flown all of them IRL but the ones I had didn't have overhead switches. 🤔
@jameslangford3613
@jameslangford3613 5 месяцев назад
​@@BHPilot82 Oh, this was kinda a joke, but yes - some Archers have switches (battery, alternator, boost pump etc) above the windscreen. Not really "overhead", per-se
@kohheiva
@kohheiva Год назад
To be compared to the Justflight's one.
@jessicaschneider2979
@jessicaschneider2979 6 месяцев назад
How much money is it on msfs on Xbox
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett 6 месяцев назад
Look in the marketplace, and find out :)
@droge192
@droge192 Год назад
"It's a nice warm day so it's debatable whether we'll need the fuel pump" - I think you are getting confused with choke, in a carburreted aircraft engine. The weather and temps have no bearing on the use of fuel pump. In the real aircraft (I have 200hrs in an Archer of this generation), you would use the fuel pump for engine start - with mixture and thrrottle set to full - until you see a positive reading on the fuel pressure. You then reduce the throttle to an inch, and turn over. Without the fuel pump, it will take a long time for the mech pump to get fuel into the cylinders, and although it would probably start eventually, you'd have 10-15 secs turning over of the starter.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
I meant the fuel pump :) Several of the aircraft talk in their checklists about using the boost pump in adverse weather conditions (cold) to start the engine. Good to get the perspective of a real pilot on this though. I don't think any of the aircraft properly simulate engine management - but I think that's more to do with the simulator at the moment, than the aircraft themselves. I'll do a video about it at some point :) (as soon as we get a really accurately modelled engine)
@BHPilot82
@BHPilot82 5 месяцев назад
Yup, you need the fuel pump on for starting, climbing, switching tanks and landing. Carb heat on when landing.
@antonioiozzi9171
@antonioiozzi9171 9 месяцев назад
Acro with a Piper Archer? Forget it. The Archer, like almost all Pipers, is a flying brick, made for flying from A to B in a stright libe with a very, very stable aircraft. Nothing more. I don't know why simmers pretend to do acro with every plane. In RL you do acro with very few one. A tonneaux with an Archer I believe is mostly impossible and if you try it probably tgere us nkt a secknd chance. I have fliwn an Archer knly twjce but it is so heavy .... only a C172 is prkbably havier... simple easy to fly aircrafts .
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett 9 месяцев назад
We're just finding out how the aircraft reacts in unusual attitudes. While you're obviously not supposed to spin most aircraft, it's good to know what's going to happen if the situation ever occurs.
@shanesdiy
@shanesdiy Год назад
I watched a video today by "Q8Pilot" posted 5 days ago with some excellent tips on reducing or eliminating stuttering. Titled "5 New Performance Tips for Microsoft Flight Simulator". Might want to have a look at that for some things to check.
@jonbeckett
@jonbeckett Год назад
Yeah - I've done those things in the past - stuttering is a completely different problem - this is outright freezing. I think it's just down to specific hardware combinations.
@shanesdiy
@shanesdiy Год назад
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Thanks for the videos!
@johnmaguire2185
@johnmaguire2185 Год назад
I’m a new simmer and purchased the Seneca. Once I got into the real details I was a bit disappointed. On the surface push to start pull to stop it was OK.
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