@@Scherzkeks123 900g heaver than their Endurance bike (both slx 8 but the endurance is 1k more expensive), not too heavy in my opinion. are there any near 8kg gravel bikes in the sub 5k range?
@@HaswellCore Couldn't tell you with any certainty, my local bike shop stocks both Ridley and Cervelo and the Ridleys look as good... but that's about all I can say!
650B has always been for short people or frame with limited tire clearance. Nice to see increasing number of gravel bike with good 700C tire clearance !
Great bike, good review- This checks all the boxes for me. I think I found my bike-I agree with you on the 29" wheels, I have a BMX cruiser with 29"s and it rolls on grass like a dream, which is why I want meaty 700c on a Gravel bike. Thanks, man!
I agree that it's good to see they scrapped that stupid hover bar for this bike. I think it also does make sense to design a bike around a single wheel size, since swapping wheel sizes does affect the geometry and handling. If it's good for 700c it will be compromised for 650b and vice versa, even taking the likely different tyre sizes into account.
The Grizl looks awesome! Have been looking at an aluminium Focus Atlas 6.8 in my LBS but the carbon Grizl SL6 is the same price and over a kg lighter. Admittedly the componentry between the 2 isn't identical but the Grizl represents a great alternative and I love the frame geometry and colours of the Grizl SL6. Unfortunately, there's a 3 mth wait! Be interested to hear feedback from new owners.
the only unfortunately is that you buy a carbon bike without almost any warranty they give you 6 years and good luck to you i bought and aero bike and they didnt do anything when had cracked i wait one year to get the refund canyon isnt trusty thats why they havent lieftime warranty like scott trek etc
I'd like to know what size you are riding in the test? and is that the size reccomended by Canyon? I'm looking to buy one, but relly unsure what size to get
Hey nice video! Can anyone help me to find the right size for me. I'm 1,89m and the inner side of my legs are about 87 cm long. I want this bike to ride fast to work and do some bike packing adventures. Canyon says I'm between L & XL. You got recommendations?
Hi, thank you for the review. Very interesting. Maybe I missed it (also do not find it in the written review). What is the height of the rider using the L frame?
@@Cyclistmagvideo Hy and thanks for this great review ! I am 190 cm… just seating between L and XL… can’t decide witch size I should go for 😓😓 any suggestions ? I come from MTB enduro and this would be my first road/gravel bike. I will not do heavy gravel. many thanks !
@@olivierpetri8138 I'm also 190cm but with lots of research on the internet, you should check your inseam, (mine is 86cm) and the recommandation from the sizing algo from canyon website is L. Comparing the XL and L specs, the L version matches my single speed bike (XL state bicycle) which fits me perfectly. And usually, people say that it is better to get the smaller one if you're in between because it is easier to make it your fit (replacing the stem for example)
Hi, very good video about this bike. I canť still decision between Grizl and Grail bike. I rather buy the Grizl, because it is so robust. but on other hand I want also be faster on tarmac. It is so difference between the 40 and 45 mil tires?
Sadly I'am forced to 650b according to canyon sizing. Even if i'am riding a Orbea occam in M size in 29inch canyon decided to fit 650b on smaller frame... :-(
Any idea what's the max load for a saddle bag on this funky seatpost? Specially designed Apidura saddle bag is too small, would like to use some L size Ortlieb
Hi Kristaps. Canyon doesn't have information regarding the exact maximum load in terms of luggage, but states that maximum general load is 100kg. So as long as the rider+attached gear is under 100kg you should be fine - Sam
I got the Grizl CF SL around 3 months ago. I was planning to use it for commuting and doing some gravel adventure; however, after 3 weeks of use, I had a minor crash with another bicycle and the frame broke. I contacted Canyon and asked about the Crash Replacement Program. Basically, Canyon offered me a new frame (fork not included) for US$ 1,600 + Tax - not exactly a bargain. For now, I will store the bike while I decide what to do with it. If you are planning to do some adventure riding or to commute, consider getting an aluminum frame, as it will be more reliable. My suggestion, get a bike from a reputable brand from a local bike store.
This bike was really easy to assemble ru-vid.comUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
@@Cyclistmagvideo was thinking the same thing Jeremy. Hopefully they offer this color in the future. I know they are soon to release an aluminum frame version of the Grizl.
Larger sized rotors on their own do not equal greater braking performance. You'd need better brakes to take advantage of that (i.e. larger brake pad surface area, better pad materials and better clamping).
Agree! I’m 5’10 1/2” had a grail size Small, and it was along reach IMO, many others would disagree but looking at the specs, is def longer than most 56 sized bikes I’ve been on. Good luck out there
This is starting to look like variations in cars, here we have the ford focus XS-S which is totally different from the ford focus XS-Z. I get it, but to be fair it really does look like a grail with more mounting points. Something smelled fishy when canyon removed those mounting points on the grail for the 2020 model. And tadaaa here we have a "new"model :P . Only starting 600 euro's more for the base model ...... You see where im going with this? Don't get me wrong I own a grail AL 7 size m and love it to bits and yes 45 mm 700C wheels also fit in this bike. So I am hard pressed to see the extra value, it feels like they are just taking the piss now. Base model is grizl is 1999 euro carbon frame weighing 9.8 kg with grx 400 a grail 7 aluminum with grx 800 was 1850 euros weighing 9.3 kg. So what is the value proposition here? I guess the compliance in the frame of the carbon bike but why does it weigh more? So many questions, canyon can do better than this.
Comparing the Grail CF SL 7 to the Grizl CF SL 7 the Grizl is a few hundred less with what looks to be a very similar component package. I'm guessing stock in the Grail will pile up and the Grizl will sell out all summer.
It was well know at the time that an alloy version of the grizl would come out, no need to see the devil here xD. Also your numbers are from where ? on canyons website, the grizl cf sl 6 and the grail al 7 have the same weight, explained easily by the heavier tires and an heavier group set on the grizl. Between the grail al 7 and the grizl cf sl 7, so same group set, you have a 300 g difference between the two. Up to 514g if you consider the same tires. So its lighter, in carbon, with bigger tire clearance and fork mounts for 500€ more ... seems fair. If you compare the grail 7 with the grizl 7, so nearly same specs, you have a a 820g difference, minus 214g for the tires which means a "real" difference of 606 g. So same price, and you can choose for the lighter option with the grail (606g) or the more capable option with the grizl : Fork mounts, tire clearance, rack mount (only on the alloy version), front suspension option Also the welds on the grizl Al are much better looking, at least in Europe. Not the case in the usa for unknown reasons. The value is in the ability to choose what fits you the best.
I'd have one of the SL7s in 1x if I could get it in that color instead of that ridiculous mint green. Dunno WTF they were thinking with that particular colorway... yuck!
... so not only do we need gravel bikes, but now we need expensive ones.... blah... sorry not interested. Gravel bikes should be cheap and easy to replace gear cables and mechanicals like a mountain bike because of all the s&^t they get caked in.
