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First night at TX2K19.. Turbo Cobra vs 1300hp GT-R vs TT Viper vs ZR1 & MORE!!! 

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@StreetCarVideo
@StreetCarVideo 5 лет назад
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@chemicalnbc5820
@chemicalnbc5820 5 лет назад
Lots of jumping and letting off early in this one.😲
@StreetCarVideo
@StreetCarVideo 5 лет назад
Faster cars that’s why! They get to 160-180 quick..
@dimariobell8499
@dimariobell8499 5 лет назад
way too much jumping
@d.d.t.7239
@d.d.t.7239 5 лет назад
@@StreetCarVideo it's not how fast they are, the driver's are jumping the count(anxious) and when they see their getting beat on the top end they pull out! "As if they won". Use a air horn, 1st sound GO!
@NatoriousGamePlay
@NatoriousGamePlay 5 лет назад
@@d.d.t.7239 an air horn is a genius idea actually
@ParanoiaSZN
@ParanoiaSZN 5 лет назад
I'm Inspired don’t they generally just race to 160-180 and first one to hit it wins?
@landlordman1744
@landlordman1744 5 лет назад
Lol run it back with that viper he was comin for you boy
@MPowerHouston
@MPowerHouston 5 лет назад
Ryan H the viper fast car we agree 55 to 160 I know up top he will pull hard
@turdferg9703
@turdferg9703 5 лет назад
The race was over by then, Mustang won fair and square and would do the same thing on another run
@landlordman1744
@landlordman1744 5 лет назад
Turd Ferg yeah I think you’re confused on which race we are talking about man
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 5 лет назад
Then why don't you put what time it occurs in the video and people won't get confused. LOL @4:02
@Itachlazcano21
@Itachlazcano21 5 лет назад
Lmao the viper would’ve gapped it.
@fastlifehefner982
@fastlifehefner982 5 лет назад
That black zr1 from midnight performance aint no joke.
@dilanmorales3706
@dilanmorales3706 5 лет назад
uluvhere I’ve seen other videos of the midnight ZR1 and it really is no joke 💯😂
@FueledbyFaith
@FueledbyFaith 5 лет назад
@uluvhere ! Yeah because that
@cali2468
@cali2468 5 лет назад
@uluvhere ! You're a joke
@negativesplits06
@negativesplits06 5 лет назад
I have yet to see that thing lose a race.
@rosstv9463
@rosstv9463 5 лет назад
My favorite zr1
@lalo2jz
@lalo2jz 5 лет назад
I guess 3 doesn’t exist there lol
@rosstv9463
@rosstv9463 5 лет назад
Eduardo Ugalde 🤣🤣
@hcmemeliju4883
@hcmemeliju4883 5 лет назад
Eduardo Ugalde was looking for this comment
@peteymane1616
@peteymane1616 5 лет назад
Lmfaoo
@MrMotoxmadman32
@MrMotoxmadman32 5 лет назад
For real. I mean I've seen people jump but dudes are leaving on 1 wtf lol
@mikeyahrens
@mikeyahrens 5 лет назад
why is the dude in the 1300hp gtr jumping every time? weak.
@jpreyes1028
@jpreyes1028 5 лет назад
I don't know what nationality he is but he's been annoying since he started getting featured.
@ElijahWash
@ElijahWash 5 лет назад
Jose Paulo King why does it matter for nationality he is 😂?
@jpreyes1028
@jpreyes1028 5 лет назад
@@ElijahWash LOL actually, it doesn't.Just can't place the accent.
@elizardogonzalez5397
@elizardogonzalez5397 5 лет назад
Lol he has a 1300 hp gtr and jumps and can still barely win😂
@loudspl1
@loudspl1 5 лет назад
If it's a real 1300 to the tire, you should never need to jump!
@black05srt
@black05srt 5 лет назад
The red GTR jumped every single time.
@MPowerHouston
@MPowerHouston 5 лет назад
black05srt no didn’t I use antilag
@nameidontknow2488
@nameidontknow2488 5 лет назад
@@MPowerHouston jumping before 3 is not anti-lag..
@michaelmcaleer59
@michaelmcaleer59 5 лет назад
@@MPowerHouston u can't count.....
@codyzent6471
@codyzent6471 5 лет назад
@@MPowerHouston learn how to drive bud. Quit being a pussy and race fairly
@Onyourchin101
@Onyourchin101 5 лет назад
@@MPowerHouston on 3....
@The2001cobra
@The2001cobra 5 лет назад
That cobra driver needs to start going on 2 in this crowd...… It appears it has enough to real them in. He just needs to learn less integrity and disregard the 3 count lol
@The3751FAN
@The3751FAN 5 лет назад
That white viper and GTR run was sketchy should have re-ran cause that viper was pulling hard up top
@dimariobell8499
@dimariobell8499 5 лет назад
J 1999 hell yeah!
@NutButDontTella
@NutButDontTella 5 лет назад
Shit with a 8.4L V10, weight advantage and more power I sure hope it would. Miss the days of the Alpha 16's with 1600awhp running the streets, now theyre all chasing records than killing Vipers/Hellcats/Huracans/Coyotes
@andrezzy5.091
@andrezzy5.091 5 лет назад
720s Or Bust hell yeah the last time i seen the ugr lambos and the alpha gtrs racing on the streets was 2k13
@antilagboostaddiction8322
@antilagboostaddiction8322 5 лет назад
@@andrezzy5.091 It's not easy finding races when you are in a GTR making 1600whp and as far as the lambos go they cost a shit ton of money not worth getting your shit impounded over a little fun on the street they have alot to loose.
@lewisbihh
@lewisbihh 5 лет назад
Andres Tobar the good ole days
@patrickr8540
@patrickr8540 5 лет назад
Everyone leaving early on that cobra
@turdferg9703
@turdferg9703 5 лет назад
They were scared of losing
@PimoAn01
@PimoAn01 5 лет назад
Nobody wants to be Terminated
@MM-su4gu
@MM-su4gu 5 лет назад
Even last year that red gtr kept jumping that cobra
@biancaortegaa
@biancaortegaa 5 лет назад
The viper at the end was definitely the fastest Car there
@braxtonjurado9181
@braxtonjurado9181 5 лет назад
Facts
@5.0JACK
@5.0JACK 5 лет назад
LightBright Biancaa I wanna see that viper and midnight ZR1 race. Viper would most likely walk it but would still be badass to watch.😎
@biancaortegaa
@biancaortegaa 5 лет назад
@@braxtonjurado9181 I luv it ❤ #Srt
@dilanmorales3706
@dilanmorales3706 5 лет назад
Braxton Jurado I’d say the midnight Zr1
@bryanl7673
@bryanl7673 5 лет назад
Houstons Supercars No sir that viper would not walk the ZR1. 800 hp ZR1’s are gapping huracans there’s no way in hell that viper will beat that one. I’d be a good race tho
@sf1of1
@sf1of1 5 лет назад
I saw zr1 I clicked
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 5 лет назад
Same
@itsmystorytillnow
@itsmystorytillnow 5 лет назад
Lol why was everyone scared of the cobra. So many jumps against him
@itserick_7669
@itserick_7669 5 лет назад
That little and old 4.6 4v can put in work and gap alot of these newer cars.
@godspeedelijah
@godspeedelijah 5 лет назад
They probably got their asses worked by that Cobra before. Taking no chances
@itsmystorytillnow
@itsmystorytillnow 5 лет назад
godspeedelijah I bet you that’s true lol
@The1st60ft
@The1st60ft 5 лет назад
Counts way too fast, jumps, then cheers his boy on lmao wut?
@xXxkolinkl
@xXxkolinkl 5 лет назад
For Christ`s sake more videos of that turbo Cobra plss
@badcobraracing
@badcobraracing 5 лет назад
Lots of em here ---->>>> facebook.com/thebadcobra/
@xXxkolinkl
@xXxkolinkl 5 лет назад
@@badcobraracing thanks
@t.c.5274
@t.c.5274 5 лет назад
Just bought a procharged c6 mallet hammer build heads, cams, and some motor work because of you and 1320 vids! Sold all my fast stuff few years ago and these vids just made me dump a pile of cash this weekend to go stupid fast! 😆
@refusetolosethis779
@refusetolosethis779 5 лет назад
Did you put a coyote in it or something?
@mikehawk6175
@mikehawk6175 2 года назад
@@refusetolosethis779 he said he wanted to go fast not sideways
@dmsrt8
@dmsrt8 5 лет назад
This channel should have way more subscribers
@TEXASWILDIN
@TEXASWILDIN 5 лет назад
dmsrt8 agreed
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 5 лет назад
Facts
@dmsrt8
@dmsrt8 5 лет назад
@7Sin0City2 lol
@michaelmartinez6733
@michaelmartinez6733 5 лет назад
Dude on the bike is a Different Breed
@braxtonjurado9181
@braxtonjurado9181 5 лет назад
Love seeing that black zr1 in these videos! Car is definitely a beast 🔥
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing 5 лет назад
Its ridiculous
@michaelcatalina2749
@michaelcatalina2749 5 лет назад
So the car with the most hp was the fastest! Did I mention the bike? That beat everyone 👌
@joshjosh7029
@joshjosh7029 5 лет назад
Bike lighter, car heavy
@GameOver321
@GameOver321 4 года назад
Bike was eatn good that night lol
@zephyrkds1839
@zephyrkds1839 5 лет назад
Maybe you should use a Airhorn or bluetooth speaker to start the countdown. This little jump thing make me little anxious ._.
@dolphincatcher2491
@dolphincatcher2491 5 лет назад
Lmfao these gtr girls are so scared to lose 😂😂😂
@andresgarcia3516
@andresgarcia3516 5 лет назад
GTR
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
But the scary as Corvette drivers jumped that lil old cobra and still lost lmao
@TwoInfinityAndBeyond
@TwoInfinityAndBeyond 5 лет назад
Guy in the GT-R never learned how to count.
@FChuckT
@FChuckT 5 лет назад
Bruhh... That Viper was coming....
@3yar1983
@3yar1983 5 лет назад
That viper at the end was driven by an alien!
@1320Gamin
@1320Gamin 5 лет назад
LMAO
@MM-su4gu
@MM-su4gu 5 лет назад
He came from Area 51 just to do a few runs in tx2k19 then he went back
@2liter8valveABA
@2liter8valveABA 5 лет назад
Red GTR jumps every single run. Even with rolling anti lag he’s taking off way early.
@BrutalStench
@BrutalStench 5 лет назад
Viper was clearly coming around the GTR. I also noticed the 1300hp GTR kept braking too fast, as the 1200hp Cobra was pulling towards him.
@let_it_ride9216
@let_it_ride9216 5 лет назад
That viper was wicked he was gonna pull that gtr back in
@885.0ELopez
@885.0ELopez 5 лет назад
After bad cobra walked that pro charged zo6 that first run everyone got nervous and was jumping on 2😂2nd run the zo6 hella jumped and also midnight vette also jumped on bad cobra left on 2 that viper though ufff the way it was coming back 🔥
@OG.Pancho.Villa.
@OG.Pancho.Villa. 5 лет назад
Midnight performance zr1 > all mustangs
@885.0ELopez
@885.0ELopez 5 лет назад
Pancho Villa mid night won’t take a loss so he’s always jumping I’ve noticed that on every video
@Gap_machine
@Gap_machine 5 лет назад
I know that car he burnt a few spark plug wires that night so he was down 2-3 cylinders. Plus he is manual and procharger so he has a huge disadvantage
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
@@OG.Pancho.Villa. that red 1600hp mustang in some of these vids would destroy midnights zr1 hell evo bad cobra was reeling it in after that insane jump cuz was scared of getting gapped.
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
@@885.0ELopez he doesn't always jump but he definitely didn't want to take that L to bad cobra on this one lol
@ElijahWash
@ElijahWash 5 лет назад
Did the GTR ever go on 3?
@skrimpjones
@skrimpjones 5 лет назад
Let's get down to business I don't got no time to play around! These cars are just rude!! Videos Killing it my guy!!
@the1withnoname496
@the1withnoname496 4 года назад
That red gtr ruined a great video, always leaving on 1 🙄 could have been some good runs
@qjonesization
@qjonesization 5 лет назад
😂😂😂😂 What kind of count down was that? People going on 1, going on 2!!!!
@elengruhe4094
@elengruhe4094 5 лет назад
why would you even call 1,2,3 if everyone starts whenever they want
@A-Aron
@A-Aron 5 лет назад
midnight zr1 is why I clicked
@elricky1996
@elricky1996 5 лет назад
That viper was pulling hard af on that gtr!
@Boostedsuspects
@Boostedsuspects 5 лет назад
That GTR and Viper are beast.
@oglolli4083
@oglolli4083 5 лет назад
good lord not a single race did anyone go on three😂😂 every race needs a rerun😂
@williampearson6259
@williampearson6259 5 лет назад
Cobra couldn't buy a clean race lol
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
He had the slow gms scared af lol
@Al-mx6ru
@Al-mx6ru 4 года назад
@@clutchkickpj693 he had the Gtr s scared. They didn't race him.
@Bluecollar_singlefather
@Bluecollar_singlefather 5 лет назад
Never wanted to punch someone counting to 3 so bad in my life 😂
@96t5wagon
@96t5wagon 5 лет назад
Somebody slap that boys kindergarten teacher for not teaching him to count past 2 😂
@cassijean759
@cassijean759 5 лет назад
Red GT-R scared to lose jumped most of his races.
@joshuakingma6320
@joshuakingma6320 5 лет назад
4k machines I’d say jumped a little bit and probably a little bit of break boosting, things a beast no doubt about that
@Al-mx6ru
@Al-mx6ru 5 лет назад
@@joshuakingma6320 looked scared to me. When ur scared to lose u always jump.n he sure was.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 5 лет назад
@@5.0JACK Within 3 seconds that white Viper Was at his fender and he let off. Fanboys will always disagree but Ppl love to see whos really faster
@5.0JACK
@5.0JACK 5 лет назад
Plum_Crazy 1992 They need to run it.
@WindyCity1992
@WindyCity1992 5 лет назад
@@5.0JACK Yes. The GT-R is an extra 400 ibs so Wouldnt expect it to be close up top But atleast run a full length.
@VASILLEVSKI1878
@VASILLEVSKI1878 5 лет назад
That S1000RR whooped the red GTR.
@dylanknoblock914
@dylanknoblock914 5 лет назад
Heretic Anthem to bad is was a gsxr 1000
@MINAR3L_GR3Y_2V
@MINAR3L_GR3Y_2V 5 лет назад
I guess no one goes on 3 anymore lol 2 is the new 3🤷🏻‍♂️😂
@theone-jm3gl
@theone-jm3gl 5 лет назад
Takes off on 2 everytime lol
@JG-ev4nk
@JG-ev4nk 5 лет назад
That red GTR kept going on “ready” and “1”...lol
@collingoode4321
@collingoode4321 5 лет назад
The guy in the red GTR likes to leave on 1.75 doesn't he...
@gilbertjuarez7064
@gilbertjuarez7064 5 лет назад
Lot of early jumping on that cobra had them nervous I bet great video 👍🏼
@vz3692
@vz3692 5 лет назад
Everyone jumped on that cobra.....
@02autogt
@02autogt 5 лет назад
Can't really tell shit from a video but I'm thinking the converter in the Cobra could be tighter... Kinda sounds like it's blowing through it.
@renedl22
@renedl22 5 лет назад
5.0>ls
@ThomasShelby-qb4ic
@ThomasShelby-qb4ic 5 лет назад
Houston got a better car scene than the rest of the country
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
False
@JS-vm9ws
@JS-vm9ws 5 лет назад
1,2 (GO!), 3!.... Still crazy good stuff as always.
@sliqdaddy91
@sliqdaddy91 5 лет назад
Nth Moto Viper needs to show up and gap everyone. As per usual, Twin Turbo Vipers that hook are very hard to beat.
@MM-su4gu
@MM-su4gu 5 лет назад
It did show up but he’s not in this vid
@1320Gamin
@1320Gamin 5 лет назад
4:12 who let this alien out of area 51 to race
@chrisparry7813
@chrisparry7813 5 лет назад
Vipers sweet 👌 zr1 beast red gtr got the goods but bad count bro re race different ending both gtrs jumped on mustang that things serious but u need to count fair mate far as I’m concerned red gtr out
@mikemmw
@mikemmw 5 лет назад
Viper was no Joke! Serious Torque Monster!
@GA-wj4el
@GA-wj4el 5 лет назад
Black zr1 is killer....
@darwinr2d2c23
@darwinr2d2c23 5 лет назад
If any of this cars really were over 1k hp the bike wouldn’t have won
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
You're a damn fool if you think that these cars weren't making over 1k hp... you have no idea what's done to that bike. Just because your bike is slow don't mean that one is. I've seen plenty bikes beat 1k+ hp cars.
@taylormullins7404
@taylormullins7404 5 лет назад
To bad that bike should claim child support...
@erickthecoolguy
@erickthecoolguy 5 лет назад
I’m gonna trade in my 99’ civic to get me one of these bad boys
@Horchata44
@Horchata44 5 лет назад
erickthecoolguy any dealer would be dumb not to take your 99’ civic for a gtr
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 5 лет назад
🤣
@MM-su4gu
@MM-su4gu 5 лет назад
Edgar Villa 😂😂
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 5 лет назад
Impressed with the stick cars for hanging as well as they did! That Viper was coming in hot!
@SuperSilvi1990
@SuperSilvi1990 5 лет назад
Must have been a lot of cops out that night, cause everyone was jumpy.
@ramellucas1275
@ramellucas1275 5 лет назад
Viper driver: No no no where u think u going
@johnhonest9347
@johnhonest9347 5 лет назад
1.2 (he floors it).3(race over)
@asupercarfreak
@asupercarfreak 5 лет назад
Ill murder any of those cars!
@Olhighclass
@Olhighclass 5 лет назад
Im just disappointed with the red gtr driver but i love this channel keep up the great work
@bryanleonard8008
@bryanleonard8008 5 лет назад
READY! 1... 2... (takes off) 3...
@sloyoteftw
@sloyoteftw 5 лет назад
Midnight zr1🤤
@zyda69
@zyda69 4 года назад
That sick taillight bruh..
@conradsealy9603
@conradsealy9603 5 лет назад
And they hate the GTR. Lol. The only car that had anything to match the GTRs there was the white Viper. Everything else got a proper beat down from the GTRs. Lol. Despite the hate for the car GTRs are no joke.
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
Sure isn't and 1300hp is slow for gtrs. I remember when the alpha 16 gtrs making 1600hp and ugr lambos were running the streets couple years back but now they're all making 2500-3500hp chasing records now. Gt-r is the K.O.T
@conradsealy9603
@conradsealy9603 5 лет назад
@@clutchkickpj693 I agree. 1300hp for a GTR is not a fast GTR when there are 2000+hp GTRs driven on the streets. Its a good thing none of those monsters were here. Lol.
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 5 лет назад
That night was a night of going on 2!
@lovejago
@lovejago 5 лет назад
You should all ways go on 2 !! lol
@otfboyliltrav9920
@otfboyliltrav9920 5 лет назад
Bike leaves everyone haha
@user-NofaceNocase
@user-NofaceNocase 5 лет назад
Gtr jumping at 1 lol
@bryanleonard8008
@bryanleonard8008 5 лет назад
All the butthurt LS fan boys hittin that thumbs down button!
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
Facts
@NAWF.MEMPHIS.KING.901
@NAWF.MEMPHIS.KING.901 5 лет назад
Ford > Chevy
@gilbertmelendez8836
@gilbertmelendez8836 5 лет назад
😎
@specagent6918
@specagent6918 5 лет назад
The sports bike😅
@KILLMONGERH2
@KILLMONGERH2 Месяц назад
3:12 Ngl if I had that cobra, I’d feel good with that loss, keeping it that close to that bike & gtr, put that into perspective, that’s a sports bike & a damn gtr keeping up with that sports bike & you ain’t really fall behind 👏🏼
@horrorfan4711
@horrorfan4711 5 лет назад
That white Viper was about to hurt some feelings
@ErnestoBoots
@ErnestoBoots 4 года назад
Lol...needs a prong collar
@dtwd9043
@dtwd9043 5 лет назад
Gtr serving up Gapplebees dinner as usual 🐐. Love the terminator though 🥴🤤 #TimeLess
@thisismyname1296
@thisismyname1296 5 лет назад
Yeah needs a second head start every time too
@AsapRockyOG
@AsapRockyOG 5 лет назад
DTWD 904 he’s not tho lmao, all he does is jump
@angelchulo69
@angelchulo69 5 лет назад
Motora the best
@Josh-gb6mv
@Josh-gb6mv 5 лет назад
Alright are you ready? ONE, TWO Red GTR: Guns it THREE! *other car goes when they’re supposed to* Red GTR Driver: Fuck yeah, fuck yeah! We get it dude, you have to do what would be the equivalent of red lighting in a drag race to win.
@Earache.
@Earache. 5 лет назад
That bike 🔥
@elizardogonzalez5397
@elizardogonzalez5397 5 лет назад
Badcobra would have had no chamce with midnight ZR1 🤷🏻‍♂️ facts bruhh car pulls amd stuff but way too much for midnight zr1
@BackroadsStreetcars
@BackroadsStreetcars 5 лет назад
Everybody's jumping!
@thegeorgiabowhunter7542
@thegeorgiabowhunter7542 5 лет назад
I can't wait to see the Tesla Roadster against some of these cars. It's gonna break some hearts. 3,750 ft lbs of instant torque in an AWD. Bye bye Viper!
@NosLaser
@NosLaser 5 лет назад
A bunch of GTRs stealing the hit. Call me Jack's complete lack of surprise.
@whatthefox302
@whatthefox302 5 лет назад
Love the cars, but man are they un-synchronized racers lol i hardly saw any of them take off at the same time it was always chase is a race. Fuck it though I bet they had shit tons of fun 🤘🏼🦊
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld 5 лет назад
This ZR1 looks like a Tonka Toy compared to the C8. C8 ZR1 will put laps on this ZR1 on a circuit
@squeegied3rdeye713
@squeegied3rdeye713 3 года назад
I remember back in the day here in Texas (the late 90s/early 2000s) when 500/700 hp was considered insane. Jesus fn Christ
@jimmyinthaphanh2993
@jimmyinthaphanh2993 5 лет назад
1..2 ....💨 🤦🏽‍♂️
@Joshuapsalm
@Joshuapsalm 5 лет назад
I wunder how many of these guys are making car payments. And still dumping that kind of cash in to there cars. Yes I'm a family man who dreams of having a Z06
@Craigster11
@Craigster11 5 лет назад
Everyone is complaining about the jumping and stopping bruh you gotta get ready for that Texas, 1 2 3 shit xD
@kittygracex
@kittygracex 4 года назад
here for the red gtr 🔥🚀🤩 binge watching these vids during quarantine...so amazing! 👏🏼
@nolanhite9806
@nolanhite9806 2 года назад
Disappointed with the Cobra. Wrong gear ratio, or just the wrong transmission. Looked like it was set up for dig racing.
@shayearl2369
@shayearl2369 5 лет назад
Don't celebrate too quickly. That white viper was coming hard to blow your doors off.
@RR-eg4nz
@RR-eg4nz 5 лет назад
So now jumping the count and letting off early is considered street racing? Videography stunk, didnt see a race, better start adding quality if you want to keep these clicks.
@czza2949
@czza2949 5 лет назад
why everybody so scared of a lil 4.6 with turbos??? headstart havin ass boys lmao
@harrisonf780
@harrisonf780 5 лет назад
Need to see the the Europower GTR vs the Midnight ZR1.
@clutchkickpj693
@clutchkickpj693 5 лет назад
Facts
@badcobraracing
@badcobraracing 5 лет назад
The gt-r would smash the zr1
@MM-su4gu
@MM-su4gu 5 лет назад
badcobra racing but if whitem3 adds nos it’ll be interesting
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