FIRST SHAMAN HERO TALENT TREE! | The FARSEER Is Here! 

So, first of all, Ele already gets plenty of CDR on our Fire/Storm Ele. And currently the playstyle requires you to cast your Ele BEFORE Prime Wave. That already happens now anyway, so that's not a problem. Second, Nature's Swiftness (soon to be Ancestral Swiftness) is never consumed until you use a spell with a cast time. If you press Nature's Swiftness in game right now and then press Prime Wave or an Instant-cast Lava Burst, it won't consume NS. Third, I agree the capstone is a bit weak. However Ele can reduce the CD on Ancestral Swiftness through the "Flash of Lightning" talent, potentially lowering it's CD on average to 25-30 seconds. That gives you more Ancestors and more instant-cast spells (like Ele Blast). Finally, I like your idea of Ancestors Flame Shocking enemies when they spawn. That's a great one! Blizzard has released these trees well ahead of the alpha and beta for War Within. We will absolutely see some changes in the near future. :)

I see some of your points for sure, but I disagree with it being primarily RNG. Yes, you are relying on procs from Lava Burst or Riptide, but you also have guaranteed ways of proccing Ancestors, namely Prime Wave, Unleash Life and Ancestor's Swiftness. Each spec can get 2 Ancestor's guaranteed. For Ele, you are getting some power out of these Ancestors regardless of RNG at least 2 times per minute. Assuming you run the Fire build, Prime Wave will be a 20-25 sec CD, so you can get even more value there. I think there's more value beyond just the procs. Also I think people are sleeping on how insane a free Ele Blast cast will be each time an Ancestor dies. It will add a ton of dmg, free stats and proc Windspeakers.

@@ZucoWoW are you blind or just for purpose dont see that, when he said about pets ( ancestors ), casting their own similar spells and nothing says that you will get ele blast bonus stats or Surge of Power proc or Windspeaker's Lava Res. proc from it. Now with our current set is working on this because WE casting that prim wave and with that also casts an ele blast this is NOT the same when your "pet" doing something unless they writing in it to the description. I see you wanna make this video a positive feedback, but the farseer hero talent is really missing almost everything except the theme with ancestors in theory but all the other thing is just a fast, last 5 min work before release just for have something. We have RNG on mastery, we have RNG on DRE procs because Ascendance as talent is fucking weak alone after the further beyond nerf surely, and now they wanna add a THIRD layer on RNG with that 8% proc chance and the FOURTH LAYER with the 15% ancestor expires choose talent node and this make the spec really a russian roulette what is already that without these "hero talents" more likely RNG talents. And for an another take what you never mentioned in the video or the comment, ele is running this mindless only Lava burst spamming gameplay in s3- s4 will continue after the tierset voting, and now they will forcing us again more into this lava burst spamming 2 button build what is really underwhelming when the spec has a lightning side spells too but with this hero talent we will never casting lighting bolt again or icefury/frost shock, and we will have the SAME GAMEPLAY SINCE DF S3 TO WAR WITHIN S2 IF THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGE OR ITS GOING TO CONTINUE AFTER THAT AND MORE, AND YES PEOPLE ARE DOOMING BECAUSE BLIZZARD JUST DONT CARE WHAT HAPPENING WITH SOME SPECS LIKE ELE OR FEW SAME PROBLEMATIC SPECS WITH ALMOST 0 DEVELOPMENT BEHIND THEM. AND IF YOU DONT SEE THIS YOU'ARE LITERALLY JUST BLIND OR PAYED FOR SPEAKING GOOD WHILE IT IS BAD ( REALLY BAD!!!!)

@@balinthuber4913 First of all, Blizz isn't releasing these talent trees "5 minutes" before the expac comes out. They've released them months ahead of the alpha and beta testing periods for the game so they can get feedback. Second, this Hero Talent tree isn't all RNG. Prime Wave/Unleash Life and Ancestor's Guidance guarantees an Ancestor. On top of that, there is RNG with Lava Burst/Riptide, but you will be getting these Ancestors spawning all the time. Every 15 seconds for Resto is incredible. Over the course of a M+ dungeon run, you'll be getting hundreds of these things. For Ele, Prime Wave's CD can be reduced to around 20 seconds, especially with a 3rd Lava Burst. Third, Blizz isn't forcing you to play this Hero talent tree. Ele Shaman will have another tree shared with Enhance that will likely focus a lot more on Lightning/Frost damage. If you really hate the current Ele playstyle, you can go play that other tree. Fourth, shut the hell up. Stop yelling in my comments with half your message in ALL-CAPS. No one needs that in here. You are 100% ignoring the potential upsides of this entire Tree. There are tons of details we don't know yet. The tree def needs a few buffs, I even said that in my video multiple times, but the foundation here is solid. There are some great interactions in this tree and you are the one who is blind if you can't see how good this tree could be.

@@ZucoWoW Could be if they rework it around this ancestors theme without or atleast with less RNG. And for the guaranted ancestor there is a bit misscalculation with that 20s , yes now we have with the right gear 100% mastery with the ele blast buff and we have this set bonus with guaranteed all 3 stat bonuses at same time, but we will lose that set and we cannot start the new expansion with 80+ % mastery ergo our mastery will morelikely around 30-40% at the start of the TWW and with that mastery mass our echoing LVBs not gonna reduce our prim wave that much like now with current gear stats and current set bonus. our cast time will be more like 1,8-2,0 sec at the first season gear, it will be 30-35sec on ST maybe if you are lucky with mastery procs 25sec, unless they will change the prim wave starting cd from 45s to 30s or buffing the rolling magma talent what makes this prim wave to shorter cd, if they dont remove the talent in the new expansion that would be very bad news for this gameplay to ele sham. And yes, tons of details we dont know about how it will work, and mostly these things what we dont know exactly they are just working on the simpliest way most of time when we aren't benefitting from these. You are just TOO optimistic with that spec what is almost all the time the most undevelopmented and let it down for tuning and specfantasy -wise for years. And dont even talked about raid comps or m+ comps , ele has been always max B tier or under ( C , F tier ) for few last seasons. Always just mediocre dmg or in the last 5-10 in dps lists. I love playing ele since Nathria raid and this is my main since start of SL i looked back in the ele's history and always just mediocre dmg and its awful while in theory elemental is a strong caster spec who weaving with the FOUR elementals not just fire or with just lightning, i hope you understand this. Blizzard has to get rid of this mentality " hybrid classes cannot be op" or atleast similar op what are the " only dps classes" , i choose a dps spec so i wanna be a dps dont a dpsing support what is blizzard thinking.

TRUE, MORE COMMENT LIKE THIS NEEDED

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I hear ya. This sort of feedback is def good for Blizzard to hear, so thank you for the honesty! I think this is precisely the reason Blizzard released some of the Hero talent trees so early; so that we could give feedback and they can make changes. You will get access to another tree though, so if you really hate the Lava Burst spam-style for Ele, there is going to be another tree that focuses more on Lightning spells, etc.

@@ZucoWoW Yes, I think as someone who prefers lightning spells, stormbringer is going to be up my alley. But that brings another problem with these hero trees. Are hero trees supposed to just be extensions of existing class tree paths such as fire build / lightning build? I thought hero trees were supposed to expand upon class lore and give you a new feeling to playing your class. Frostfire mage is a great example of this. You actually get a new spammable, and casting spells of one school automatically cast spells of the other, plus some neat synergies between the two spell schools like CDR. Farseer is literally divine image plus some minor passive gains. You may be right about some of the synergies that the spirits will have with current talents but you also may be wrong because we don’t know yet if their spell casts will interact with our talents.

@@attinger117 The trees are absolutely supposed to be an extension of that fantasy of being a Farseer, etc, and should 100% better include synergy between the specs... This whole "Ancestor" theme they have going is actually ok as a starting point, but they def should include other abilities that fit the spiritual theme (like Ascendance/DRE, or Ancestral Awakening for Resto). Again, I'm really hoping Blizzard takes the feedback they are getting and makes some big changes... They have lots of time.

@@ZucoWoW What would you think if they renamed this tree to Spiritwalker and then made the ele/enhance tree Farseer(with a lightning and feral spirits focus)

@@attinger117 Yeah that would be cool!

For sure, but if you don't, you won't get a guaranteed Ancestor every 15 seconds. which is the entire point of this tree. It would be silly not to take it.

Y just want to make this point . ;)

@@Geistwahndark Yep! It's a good point! It would be interesting to see if there was a viable way to use this Hero Talent tree without taking Unleash Life.

I WAS WRONG!?!?! This has never happened before, idk what to do :)