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First Strike FSC with Grimburg Less Lethal Ammo for Personal Defense 

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When property outfitted, these are a pretty significant improvement in less lethal self defense technology. If you’re someone who takes their personal safety seriously but realizes that many self defense situations don’t warrant a firearm (without causing too much drama and legal risk), you may consider these.

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@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 3 года назад
I think you're right. The less lethal market will grow and while paintball markers can be upgraded, the average person just wants power out of the box.
@Elevated_Faded
@Elevated_Faded 3 года назад
Then buy the mission tpr
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 3 года назад
@@Elevated_Faded Yes, the Mission is higher out of the box and set perfectly for pepperballs if that is your projectile. But, the Mission has to be disassembled like a clam shell to change to higher velocity settings for Grimburgs. I still prefer my TCP because the velocity is easier to adjust and every new mag brings along a new CO2.
@superstallion97
@superstallion97 3 года назад
The mission is also much larger in size, and only uses one 12g C02 cartridge for one or 2 mags then ir looses power because you have to replace the cartridge. Which is much more difficult to change out. The TCP/FSC gets a fresh mag of ammo and cartridge everytime reload.
@Elevated_Faded
@Elevated_Faded 3 года назад
If you want power out of the box then buy the mission tpr
@superstallion97
@superstallion97 3 года назад
If you can upgrade your barrel to the Grimburg custom 5 in barrel. It is night and day, so much more powerful because it matches the Jul rounds perfectly.
@xpy1
@xpy1 3 года назад
Getting ready to order one
@smokingunclefrank6037
@smokingunclefrank6037 5 месяцев назад
Good luck getting the T8.1 mag outside of buying a whole T8.1 marker
@muhears7732
@muhears7732 5 месяцев назад
True statement. First Strike could probably sell out of another production run if the did one.
@_D3adB0y_
@_D3adB0y_ 2 года назад
Was thinking about getting one of these. You said we need the milsig o-ring, but I thought that was just for if you decide to attach a tank on the back of it?
@xpy1
@xpy1 2 года назад
You need that oring for more power regardless
@5664788
@5664788 2 года назад
Why did you decide not to replace the barrel? considering you got the grimburg balls and o ring and mag they recommend,....i just ordered an fsc and want to have max self defense power,......are you finding this thing still reliable? It adds up with a grimburg barrel and extras and $100 for mag at about $650 after said and done,......still alot cheaper then a lawyer ,..haha ,....that the way im tryin to justify buying one even though i have plenty of firearms,.....but like you said,...few time are you in that type of need,...much more likely to need this,...dont wanna end up like Derik shoven
@AMRs
@AMRs 2 года назад
I did replace the barrel with a bore matched .686 smoothbore from Grimburg. These are a major handy technology for personal defense. As far as the money goes, they’re worth it. Start with the base gun and some Grimburg ammo, the optimization mods can come as finances permit but even a dude working at Taco Bell should be able to afford $300 for a gun and 50 for reusable ammo. Better barrels and lights and more mags can come bit by bit but one McDonalds paycheck is enough to have the system on hand in case you need it. For me, that’s totally worth a few hundred bucks, even if I was poor.
@Aj-om4dt
@Aj-om4dt 2 года назад
What do the Grimburg rounds weigh? I’ve got first strike type rounds & also round ball (both steel/nylon mixture) off eBay weighing in at 7grams. I’ve got a valken M17 which I’m tuning up step by step following Mikey’s advice @ Canada riot balls & going to try both his 3.9g & 9.9g round balls ✌️ Love your videos
@AMRs
@AMRs 2 года назад
8 grams. There are 'heavier' rounds out there but 8 g is a very optimal balance for mass and velocity so you're not lobbing rainbow-arc shots past 20 feet. The real high point of Grimburg rounds is the quality and tolerance. With a bore-matched barrel, you get a screaming velocity out of them since they're made to such a high standard and pressure/air isn't escaping around the sides. I'm not affiliated with Grimburg in any way other than as a totally loyal customer who recognizes their relatively superior product.
@xpy1
@xpy1 3 года назад
Will any rounds go through human skin if I pay that much for a marker for defense it need to go through skin
@AMRs
@AMRs 3 года назад
Potentially, but not like a firearm. That's the whole point. They may lacerate the skin, but they will absolutely leave severe contusions that will demotivate most all attackers. The sorts of 'worst case scenario' type attackers who might be able to power through something like this would be no different than the fluke cases where people were shot with duty sidearms several times but kept fighting because they were hopped up on PCP, or whatever. There's always that 0.01% chance, but the other 99.9% of the time its going to be effective.
@xpy1
@xpy1 2 года назад
@@AMRs ok thanks
@stephond.photography9867
@stephond.photography9867 2 года назад
I am debating on getting one. More fore just a defense mechanism either subdue an attacker with a blunt object or knife or provide enough of a deterrent for an attacker with a firearm. Someone tried to break into my vehicle last night and if it happens again and I go to protect my property something, or even out and about if someone pulls a firearm I think the site of it will have the attacker retreat. My worry is making sure if I send one down chamber and they get hit they go down, are hurt enough to surrender or run off in fear
@AMRs
@AMRs 2 года назад
Lots of factors. "Confronting kids breaking into a car" is pretty much the perfect scenario for something like this and largely why I own one. This isn't to say you might not want to have a firearm small-of-back just in case something unexpected happens, but yeah. Not all situations are lethal force situations, but may warrant more coercion than strong words and threats. They hit around 30 joules of energy. They'll take the wind out of you sails, for sure. You could devise scenarios where they would be ineffective (a 6'5 bodybuilder on PCP wearing a winter coat over a leather jacket) but for the most part, they hit so hard that you won't see anyone on RU-vid volunteering to get shot by one out of a maxed out FSC or rifle. There are videos of Tiberius T8's and Grimburg ammo blowing holes through hams, breaking bone, etc. And, if the self defense situation gets really hairy, there's always taking a head shot. These are meant as compliance tools on soft tissue but are potentially lethal, otherwise.
@AMRs
@AMRs 2 года назад
Oh, also- for home defense, consider a Valken M17 with Grimburgs and related LTL modifications. 18 rounds, very reliable, a good bit more power, full auto option, The FSC is great if you need something concealable or portable, I take mine on business trips but for the house, the LTL option is a M17,
@stephond.photography9867
@stephond.photography9867 2 года назад
@@AMRs awesome, I’ll definitely check that out. I definitely want the M17 for home defense. We just had a situation where a parent killed their kid thinking they were an intruder. I’d rather take my chance with the M17 while the wife hunkers down with the shotgun
@AMRs
@AMRs 2 года назад
@@stephond.photography9867 One thing I can pretty confidentially say is that nobody is going to take a full-auto rip of Grimburg JUL ammo from a tuned up M17 and keep coming, I don't care what weapon they're carrying. If you shoot first and shoot right, you're gunna win the exchange, they're going down. Be sure to get the bore matched barrel and use Grimburg ammo,
@superstallion97
@superstallion97 3 года назад
Byrna Kinetic rounds are another good option as well.
@LessLethal
@LessLethal 3 года назад
If their rounds are produced at the same quality level as their launchers, no thanks...
@YouTubeCommentator.
@YouTubeCommentator. 2 года назад
What joules does it have out of the box?
@xpy1
@xpy1 2 года назад
I think 250 fps
@markwatts2532
@markwatts2532 3 года назад
You can load 9 rounds...IF you drop one down the mag hole into the camber before you insert the 8 round mag.
@AMRs
@AMRs 3 года назад
Thats awesome. Any reliability issues doing that?
@maxhauler
@maxhauler 2 года назад
@@AMRs in my FSC, with 6 in the normal mags, I always put a 7th in the breech and I also tune the power for 7 shots from a 12 gram. (so if I tuned the power for 6 shots I would just turn the power up slightly. with 7 I turn it down slightly to spread a little bit more power to the 5th, 6th and 7th shot.) I think it is the first 4-5 shots with all their power are the ones to make sure count and then that 6th and 7th are still damn powerful. I have never had a misfire and almost no occurrence of balls falling out, so I see no downside to putting that extra ball in the breech.
@pepsico815
@pepsico815 2 года назад
Will someone explain why the FSC and TCP look alike, are they the exact same gun just branded differently?
@AMRs
@AMRs 2 года назад
Essentially, yes. There are some minor mods, I belive the throat on the TCP is a bit different but for all intents and purposes, yes. They're the same gun made by the same people with different color schemes and model names.
@AKULA689
@AKULA689 3 года назад
I think all less lethal presenters should explain "bring a knife to a gun fight" gun laws are geared to make a person not get a gun and even so not to use it even if you have to! With that being said this device and others like it are very good alternatives to an actual firearm. If you put yourself in a position of needing a firearm and you bring a knife that's your fault alone! But if your just wanting an over all edge with out the legal red tape this is the way to go. As far as I have learned if you carry these devices you can do so in all 50+ us states but some you can only use hard projectiles! Having several magazines each loaded differently I can cross state lines and not worrie about permits and or licensing to do so!! Also I have more than a knife if the situation ever presents itself to me!
@maxhauler
@maxhauler 2 года назад
good info and clear perspective on these.
@Pseudometrik
@Pseudometrik 2 года назад
Hii, noob question can u conceal carry it considering the size?
@AMRs
@AMRs 2 года назад
I can but I’m a larger dude. It would be about like concealing a full size sidearm. Very doable but not made to be a pocket gun.
@Save-A-DogAps
@Save-A-DogAps 3 года назад
First strike is a Paintball comp. They make a Stronger verison then yours..called the Pepperball TCP. Which is MADE for Rubber bullet And Pepperball Yours is made for paintball Been around for years. FIRST STRIKE ' FIRST STRIKE BOUGHT the Tiberious comp. Now they make a SELF DEFENSE VERISON of your FSC. Its called The PEPPERBALL TCP 420 fps. 50 joule With 8gram grimsburg
@LessLethal
@LessLethal 3 года назад
The Pepperball TCP is basically the exact same thing, made to the same spec by the same factory. The only material differences are the Pepperball TCPs have certain looser tolerances to accommodate the larger proprietary rounds. A First Stike FSC can do whatever a Pepperball TCP can do by turning the velocity screw and using the same ammo.
@techntokens7785
@techntokens7785 3 года назад
they are basically the same thing tcp is just made for a specific application comes with an upgraded barrel and more durable internal regulator. fsc is a paintball marker aswell and more meant to freely customize by being a base model. save money pretty much type of thing unless u want the regulator durability. i think the fsc mags are different aswell and better for hp68 rounds and such
@xpy1
@xpy1 3 года назад
Lol pepper ball tcp is no way stronger lol
@Save-A-DogAps
@Save-A-DogAps 3 года назад
@@xpy1 yes FIRSG STRIKE - ** IS ** PEPPERBALL TCP The TCP. Is the LAW ENFORMENT F VERISON of the FIRST STIKE FSC !! So ours has a littlie more lower I get over 440
@Save-A-DogAps
@Save-A-DogAps 3 года назад
@@xpy1 hahha. FIRST STRIKE ***IS **** PEPPERBALL company Go learn something !! The First strike company put out the FSC for citizens ! And for Law enforment. They made the PEPPERBALL TCP Which the is SAME. FSC only it is made to shoot Grimburg 8gram riot balls OR Pepperballs That is the only difference It is the SAME GUN SAME COMPANY Hahhha Gotta love when PAINT BALLER try to talk GUN TALK
@jeffliles9931
@jeffliles9931 2 года назад
No one can hear you why don't you have your mic closer
@Elevated_Faded
@Elevated_Faded 3 года назад
I'm in #Ohio and I have a pepper ball TCP you are not allowed to conceal carry these launchers only open carry (felons)
@Elevated_Faded
@Elevated_Faded 3 года назад
@@xpy1 HPA and federal law mandates these are not firearms So its fully legal And i cant answer for a state im not in 🇺🇲💯⚠️
@Elevated_Faded
@Elevated_Faded 3 года назад
@less lethal 777 as a felon I have to open carry these launchers
@xpy1
@xpy1 3 года назад
In California the law says Concealed carry
@Elevated_Faded
@Elevated_Faded 3 года назад
@@xpy1 California can't even keep the lights on
@xpy1
@xpy1 3 года назад
California says concealed only so what’s the truth…. And what about a mon violent felon Who’s record has been expunged
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