I watched this show, and as soon as they started talking about Josh Allen in this offense or put Brock Purdy in this offense, blah blah I turned it off. I refuse to partake in those stupid hypotheticals. They don’t do it for anybody else they only do it for Brock national media can be so fucking stupid sometimes
It’s not a stupid hypothetical. We said for years that Jimmy G wasn’t that great and if you put him on another team he would probably fail. Half the fans said oh no Jimmy G is legit, he just wins, blah blah blah. Well we saw that hypothetical turn into reality last year and how did that turn out for the Raiders and Jimmy G?
@@erikdayne5429 I disagree this hypothetical, and that hypothetical are all stupid what you’re saying is all very true some 49ers fans, love hypotheticals, and all true 49ers fans new Jimmy Garoppolo sucked He played like an eight year rookie. He was so aggravating. I don’t know if any of my friends were saying all he does is win I sure know, brou from this show said that all the time, but no one said Jimmy Garoppolo was good without Shanahan *cheers*
Relax it is all for entertainment and choosing a side and sticking to your opinion. I love it. Because eventually they are proven right or wrong and we still winning
I dont understand how it is assumed Allen or Prescott or Love can have the same success in the 49ers offense. Part of the reason Brock is playing great is because he understands and can run Kyle’s offense. And Kyle’s offense is one of the most complex. His brain is is his elite attribute.
Because Brock Purdy isn’t the first person to figure out how to throw a football and he won’t be the last. Just because Purdy has had a degree of success in the system doesn’t mean other QBs wouldn’t be equally or more successful on this team. I’d imagine a lot of QBs would be productive on a team with 4 pro bowlers around them on offense.
@@Bambam0850Purdy actually had more turnover worthy plays than Josh Allen last year. Look it up if you don’t believe me. He just had a lot of good luck where defenders dropped those turnovers, but we also saw in the Ravens game what happens when they don’t drop them.
@@erikdayne5429 It went to o.t.- the fumbled punt, the mccaffrey fumble, and the right side of the oline were the main reasons. All three of those point to better defense by the chiefs.
Hurts played against the same exact defense as did Purdy, and Hurts had 4 combined TDs, 300 yards passing and put up 35 pts. Mahomes out up 31. So how they heck Hurts couldn't win with 49ers. that's insane. Hurts outplayed both those dudes.
I hate the argument of if so and so where hear and the other guy was there would they be better or worse...fact of the matter is there are different skill sets that individuals are good at and others are not ..so game planning has to do with it .your other personal... it's a team sport ....one man can not do it alone...
@JWLSports very true but the hypothetical really can't be computed because they are not on the other team. But I get what they're saying but they should work with what they got in front of him. Teams are picked by persons skillset nd players who compliment that skillet. Mahomes may be horrible with the bears no superbowls or Purdy with Miami or Jets everything would be different for each QB because of personel
I think people like Nick Wrong evaluate Purdy the wrong way and I say that because the niners offense is more built around cmc than it is Purdy and we are a run first offense and passing is secondary so when we compare these stats to someone like mahomes or Allen the stats are going to be different because the chiefs and the bills are a pass first offense. However, I believe that is starting to change for the niners because we finally have a QB who can and will step up when they need him too and is a qb that Kyle trusts and if any fan base knows mediocre qb play, it’s the faithful because after Montana, young, and Garcia we went through a drought with only a couple of years with decent qb play with Kap and Jimmy that we thought were going to be great but it didn’t end up that way. I will also say this, they’re bringing up Purdy’s first full year as the starter playoff stats but did they even bother to look up mahomes first full years playoff stats? He lost to Tom Brady’s patriots in OT in the divisional round and his number were quite similar to Purdy’s sb stats. In Purdy’s rookie season it took a serious injury to Purdy that took out the niners in the nfc championship game (which the niners completely fell apart in that game) then the following year it took mahomes (and Chris Jones) in OT in the sb to take him out.
You can’t win with Nick W. If the 9ers win the SP he would find something else to nitpick about Brock. He believes Trevor L. Is way superior which is plain dumb
Nick is acting like Patrick Mahomes does not play with a HOF tight end and that Lamar Jackson didn't play with a 6th ranked offense and 3d ranked defense. What is he talking about?
Nick always likes to bring down the chiefs to elevate Mahomes. A lot of chiefs fans do that. It’s bizarre. They’re like mad they have the GOAT coach and a great team year after year.
6:45 you used Jalen hurts number in the super to lift him up why can’t you use Purdy’s to bring him down, and yea Mahomes and Purdy has similar but Mahomes didn’t have cmc, ayuik and deebo all year.
When you reach the playoffs everybody there is good. No tomato cans kije in the regular season. QB stats might go down in olayoffs especially if you have some close games. Purdy, at this point, is hard to grade. Few QBs pick a team up on their shoulders and carry them. Put Mahomes on the Panthers team last year they are still a bad team. Nick lives in Nickland where he makes the laws and rules. Truth is he hates Purdy. If for no other reason I will root for tge 49ers to beat The Chiefs in the Syperbowl this year!
Trey Lance and Jimmy did the same thing as Purdy. When Jimmy went to the raiders we saw the truth. Same with Trey at Dallas. Purdy is not going to be extended. The niners know he’s not it.
@andrewenriquez Give us and EXACT DETAILED BREAKDOWN of what Lance and Jimmy G did that was better or as good as Purdy. Be sure to give us QBR, Passer Rating, Passing Yds, TD passes, TD to INT ratio, Pass yds per attempt, Pass yds per Completion, Percentage of Yds after Catch. Since you have zero numbers to back up your claim.................Standing by for trolling comments followed by personal insults incoming in 3......2........1............
@@JWLSports You can cherry pick innocuous comments all you want to try and make your point. There are simply “great” QB’s and then everyone else. And anyone who would honest rank Purdey in with guys like Mahomes, are simply embarrassing themselves.
We dont know if Mahomes, Burrow, Allen or Lamar can win and take any team deep into the playoffs because all of them have only played with one team...Only One Quarterback who is Currently In the NFL has proven that with Multiple Teams he can win and lead them to Conference championshipamd that's Jared Goff💯
the last 2 seasons the talk around the chiefs were that they were not what they were n this was the worst chiefs team since mahomes started playing so it can’t be his team isn’t top tier but also he can’t lead subpar teams choose one
Peyton manning has weapons… Montana has weapons Elway has weapons Give PURDY his flowers… stop hating Mahomes numbers in the playoffs were worst than reg season
Besides Mahomes, what other quarterbacks have done that ? The only other quarterbacks to even get to the super bowl was the bengals and the rams quarterback. Also Purdy does benefit from his roster. Stop acting like he’s better then he is. San Francisco went to the super bowl with other quarterback who’s a backup now.
Purdy in the regular season last year- 69.4% completion percentage. Purdy in the playoffs last year- 61.1% completion percentage. When people talk about Purdy’s accuracy and processing, in the regular season they’re mostly right. In the playoffs it hasn’t been the same and that’s a big problem especially if they’re considering paying him more than $50 million a year.
@@erikdayne5429 this isn’t basketball when your stats can go up! Most QB’s Playoff percentages drop from regular season. You can stat pad like DAK and the Cowboys during the regular season but the playoffs will give you a better picture of your skill level. Purdy runs Kyle’s offense the best I’ve seen. Does he deserve 50 mil, that’s up to the 49ers.
@@erikdayne5429 this isn’t basketball when your stats can go up! Most QB’s Playoff percentages drop from regular season. You can stat pad like DAK and the Cowboys during the regular season but the playoffs will give you a better picture of your skill level. Purdy runs Kyle’s offense the best I’ve seen. Does he deserve 50 mil, that’s up to the 49ers.
I always hated that Purdy graphic tbh. And the reason I say that is because it felt like a goalpost move. The criticism was initially that Purdy needs to prove he can win from behind and/or when circumstances aren't the best. He does that & now it's that he didn't play well enough in the come from behind wins lmao. And even if he was partially why they were down, that's still winning under less than ideal circumstances. That's insane and let's kill the notion about Purdy's roster. I'm gonna kill this argument by using Mahomes as an example here. Has Purdy ever had a TE as great as Kelce ? No. Kittle is amazing no doubt, but Kelce is the better player. Has he ever had a WR as dynamic as Tyreek ? No. Now let's compare O Lines. The name recognition of Trent Williams makes some think that the SF O Line is good, but it's actually the furthest from that. Their O Line is quite suspect. Mahomes has a Top3-5 O Line. Now let's do defense. SF actually had an up and down defense this year. Again, they have big names like Warner & Bosa, but they didn't play up to their names all the time. KC all year long was basically balling on defense. Purdy has a squad for sure, but let's not act like he's always had like the best players at every position and all that
Well we know they are always moving the goalpost for purdy. But honestly it's a great problem to have. I you're a 49ers fan or even just a Purdy fan, it's great to have people say you're not the reason for the success. Because it means you have a great team and a great coach. So keep winning and watch the haters hate!
I don't agree with Kelce really being the better player. What Reid has, is a reliable O-line, and so Kelce gets to spend much of his time out running routes. Kyle, esepcially in big games like this, tends to keep George in, as a blocker, to shore up the 9ers Achilles' heel: the o-line.
As much as I love this show even the things Nick talks about..but when it comes to certain things like Brock or Josh he refuses to see anything but what HE thinks..
These Jokers need to be Drug Tested . Kyle Shanahan was a Floundering Fool Head Coach at 9 - 30 with QBs not named Jimmy G or Brock Purdy . Kyle was 0 - 32 when Trailing by 7 in the 4th Quarter with anybody at QB , not named Brock Purdy . Kyle is now 1- 32 with Brock Purdy Jimmy G Scored 21 Points per Game most times with a Beebee Gun Intermediate Throwing / Immobile QB Offense . Brock Purdy Changed that . Brock Made the 49ers offense e a Vertical Attack / Assault Rifle Offense of high Efficiency Passing down Field . He hung 42 Points Per Game vs the Eagles and Cowboys Last Season . Brock Led the NFL in QBR last Season . He Set a New 49ers Passing Yards Mark Record that surpassed the old Record that Stood for 23 Years previously . Brock Purdy Clearly is the Best NFC QB by a Mile . He has been to Two NFC Title Games and SB 58 in one and half Seasons which is absurd for a Top 30 Draft Pick QB let alone a 7th Round QB . That's Pat Mahomes or Joe Burrow Level Success . Here are the Top 10 QBs in the NFL right now . 1 Mahomes 2 Purdy 3 Burrow 4 Allen 5 Stafford 6 Jackson 7 Stroud 8 Goff 9 Mayfield 10 Love 11 Cousins 12 Prescott 13 Tua T 14 Rodgers 15 Herbert
@@JWLSports but they’re speaking strictly in rookie seasons and Herbert had statistically a better season in pretty much every metric than stroud did , and he did it behind the 31st ranked o line. I’m tired of these analysts just briefly brushing off Herbert without actually highlighting how incredible his rookie season was. Now that he has a legit coach and staff , watch out
Brock purdy can and will win a superbowl. And for the record he did'nt lose the superbowl the defense did. He gave them the lead in overtime all our defense had to do was make a stop. People not giving him the elite credit is nuts. My question is this what does he have to prove to be considered elite in the NFL. Don't say win the superbowl cause you guys say jackson and allen are elite those 2 havent even made it to the superbowl. And before anyone starts saying I don't know anything I've been watching 49ers since 88.
@@twanwill3358More like a hundred times better. Top two qb in the league, top two in reading defenses quickly snd in accuracy- mvp finalist again this year.
So, you have to see Brock in imperfect situations but, the other guys who you rate above him are also in perfect situations with great teams. The main reason you play the games are to win and to win, you get the best players you can get. These arguments are becoming so ridiculous.
I I don’t consider Purdy to be among the best. Do you know why? Because he has a future hof coach he has the best RB the best TE the best LT the best MLb a top 3 edge rusher and 2 All Pro WRs in his team. He is literally on an all star team. Now if Purdy had been drafted by Carolina and he was doing this my opinion would change. How Burrow did that. He went to the worst team in football and it was even close and went from worst to first. Purdy went from. 1st to 1st.
And for the record if you check the stats, the 49ers offense didn’t take a leap when Purdy took over. The 49ers offense took a leap when they added CMC. In 5 games with CMC before he got hurt, Jimmy G had 9 TDs and 1 INT.
I think He has a very reasonable take on Brock. 1. Brock didnt play poorly in the playoffs... he was bad against GB. But he was good against Detroit and KC. 2. KC's Defense is majorly being slept on... after watching the all 22. Neither Deebo or Aiyuk were beating the opposing DB's in Press. Now the Refs allowed a lot of physicality (they just allowed it across the board so it was fair) but the WR's still need to get open in that scenario and neither one was able to win. 3.
That’s not accurate. Aiyuk was getting open but Purdy wasn’t going through his progressions and finding him. He would lock onto his first read which was usually Deebo Samuel. If you watch the tape again you’ll see what I’m talking about.
@@erikdayne5429 i just watched the all 22 today. He was not getting open against press man. He got open against zone and when they put him in bunch and they couldn't press him. So in short yes it is true.
@@JWLSports take is Purdy is a top tier QB. I think he is more of a product of his cast and coaching. I like him I think he is good but not a top 10 qb
@@carterhawkins113it’s funny because as 49ers fans we literally just had this same debate for years about Jimmy G. Some people swore that he was elite and others like me said he was holding the team back. We saw last year what happened when he went to a different team. It’s just hilarious how some people act like this is all purely hypothetical when we literally just saw this play out with Jimmy G last year.
"top talent at every single premium position" - The 49ers had a bottom ranked O-line that was #24 in pass-blocking last season according to PFF; lower-ranked than every other top QBs in the entire league. And that ranking was INCLUDING Trent Williams. Without Trent Williams, it was objectively the worst.
Drew Brees balled out for years as a mahomes type qb but what let him down his defense having one if not they worst in the league at the time so this narrative that mahomes is the greatest qb to walk on gods green earth is stupid to asses he is now the LOAT in my opoinon and purdy is elite on how he tom brady's a offense traits the lamar jacksons of the world should implement.
He showed that in the playoffs for sure! I was expecting them to unleash that unsuspectingly against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl to throw everyone off but they never did.
So the proff that Purdy is "high tier" is that he got to the superbowl and is constantly winning. But with the same roster... Jimmy G had the same results. 🤔🤷♂️
@@Artanis-rb7dp Proof Purdy is "Great" is in his first year, they got to playoffs but he got hurt, second year Super Bowl. One would argue that the previous QB had same results with less talent himself and offensive talent. So of course if a bum like Jimmy G succeeds in this system, a "good" QB like Purdy will too
Let me get something straight , Joe burrow has , Jamar Chase, tee Higgins, Tyler Boyd , and Joe mixon Purdy has , Deebo, Aiyuk , kittle, and cmc. Mahomes rookie year had, Tyreek hill, Sammy Watkins ,Byron Pringle , TK and lesean McCoy? And Andy Reid as a head coach. Seems to me all the QBs that were drafted high with all their weapons gets a pass, but purdy with his weapons is only bc he has those weapons.
This narrative that Kyle Shanahan is a king maker at the QB position is a joke. In 2019 when Kyle went to his first Super Bowl he had a losing record. If Jimmy G had not showed up Kyle would have been fired. Kyle knows nothing about developing a QB he has to have some one straight out of the box who can run HIS offense. That's why the Trey Lance pick was so dumb because he was raw and a long term project. Kyle said himself he had no idea how to make a playbook for him. Does that sound like a guy who knows how to coach up a QB? The answer is no. Does Brock benefit from a great roster? Absolutely he does but the rest is all him. The guy is gifted between the ears. He processes and understands the game of football at a high level. Go look at Kyles record pre Jimmy G and Brock. Oh yeah and the kid still hasn't had a full off season and training camp.
Not just went to the super bowl as a first starter but off an injury and not practicing at all in the offseason because the injury so bad. The biggest comeback in NFC championship history. Which was after a comeback from the year before. But Nick's argument is it's because Brock put them in that position. Well who put the Patriots behind in the Super Bowl against Alanta? Tom Brady wasn't even the MVP in that Super Bowl. It was Edelman. Just saying.
What I don't understand is all of these top-tier quarterbacks who have never made it to an NFC / AFC championship and or a super bowl been in the league 5 plus years and are overpaid bums.. Brock Purdy been in the league almost 3 years and he's put up better numbers than all of them and yet Nick Wright still has the audacity to talk crap... And I firmly believe Nick Wright only grow out his hair so that Patrick mahomes could have something to hold on to
I'm a Niners fan and I rank Purdy 7th or 8th behind Jalen Hurts and before or right after Jordan Love. I think Purdy is really good but not elite yet. We'll really see how good he is once he gets paid $50-$60 mil a year next year and they have to let more talent walk. As far as the Super Bowl, that loss was on Kyle Shanahan, the coaching staff, and that O-line!
The fact that Brock improved every year and had a better year coming off a injury to his throwing arm is amazing in itself 1-1/2 and went to a SB I haven’t seen Lamar or Allen there Joe fell off so Let Brock Cook 👨🏾🍳! Nick really gonna be made when he win it all this year and get MVP .
All the hand wringing is nonsense. These lists are based on nothing more than perception in just about every player except for Mahomes. I still don't understand why people give Lamar so much credit. He runs like no other QB, but that is his only elite skill. He has improved as a passer but there are several QBs who are much better in that category. I understand questioning Purdy. He was the last pick. As such, he will never get the credit he should unless he has a Brady type career. Yes, he has some skill players who are very good but acting like other teams don't have good skill players as well is foolish. No one brought up the high end skill players and the best O line in the league when Hurts had his one really good season. Why?
14:00 how can you say that there's plenty of empirical NFL data that suggests run game defense can win a championship with an okay quarterback 14:12 and as far as why trey didn't ball out I think the shanahans lacked the ability to coach running quarterbacks the same way they do traditional drop back quarterbacks if they did know how they wouldn't have did RG3 the way they did him when they see the athleticism they turn him into Michael Vick when that same player could actually be more like Donovan McNabb or Patrick mahomes
The only QB i would compare Brock Purdy to is Mahomes the rest are overrated, consider that after 8 months injury he was nearly perfect in his performance. Nick is a denier.
Putting any qb on any other team and saying how well or bad they would play is pure speculation and I can’t stand that. We do t have a clue how well Josh Allen would play as a niner and vise versa
Nick clearly doesn't like Brock Purdy because its not his guy ,..and he is last man drafted ... that's the bottom line ..just because his teammates are great and his coach is great doesn't mean that the QB that's running it isn't...
The thing about BP as a QB is that he's not a game changer like the top QBs....good QB....but this roster needs a game changer to win a SB....BP is literally Jimmy G before the knee injury.....so they will win games and make deep runs but his limits will not will us a SB 😢Dak on SF would break NFL records dude....saying other qbs can't do what he does is cap 😂
I think Brock Purdy is not a top tier QB, but he’s definitely top 10, and I do think he can there. If Purdy was so average like everyone says he is, he would just win games, but he’s not just winning games. He leads the NFL in every QB statistic.
Can’t argue with any of your points Julian. Someone needs to point out to Wright about Mahomes’ dropoff in superbowls. He hasn’t exactly lit it up, with the exception of the 2nd half vs the Eagles.
Not accurate at all. I literally just posted a video completely agreeing with him. And I'll be posting another video tomorrow agreeing with him as well
I watched a few minutes of this and this show is the biggest waste of time .... these guys don't say anything of value or very rarely do they. They just alk loud and say nothing and try to create controversy. Waste of my time ...
“His rating was the same as Patrick Mahomes during the season.” Dude, Mahomes had the league leaders in drops, and Purdy is playing with the Avengers! This guys reaching HARD!
Purdy is TOP TIER! No other QB done what's he has done or rookie year. Purdy breaking NFL n TEAM records n ONLY Rookie QB in history beat Tom Brady. Here's a side note... Hurst NEVER beaten or out played Purdy. From NCAA to BFL. In NCAA? Purdy came into game w 28 pts behind n almost won but lost by 1 PT. But still out played n out performed Hurst!!! Hands down Hurst had great core n Purdy didn't tin NCAA Look it up. Till than? STOP THE HATING Purdy Highlights ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WzxDtkcDCVg.htmlsi=vEMyEjKuVZVKi89c
No other QB has done what Purdy has done… except for Jimmy G who literally has the same exact playoff record with this same team, except he didn’t have CMC Aiyuk or Trent Williams when he went to the Super Bowl.
Joe Montana won Super Bowls when he had talent around him. Brock Purdy got dragged to the Super Bowl and couldn’t win it despite the defense holding the Chiefs to 19 points in regulation. Please do us all a favor and don’t ever again put the little make a wish kid’s name in the same sentence with Joe Montana ever again. It’s honestly not fair to Purdy. Joe Montana is one of the greatest QBs of all time, Brock Purdy is probably one of the greatest QBs on the 49ers current roster. They are not close to being similar.
Purdy is trash Jimmy g did the same thing on that team it’s all about the coach and the skill players they have anyone would be that good so no purdy is not in a top tier as a eagles fan I’ll take Dak over purdy and I hate them couchboys
@@PhillyDawg-m4u idk what was easier beating the fraudulent Giants or the 49ers with CMC at quarterback to make it to the superbowl? Stop flexing your 4 touchdown lose. 💀
Cousins is a PROVEN failure when the chips are on the line😳 So many qb1s has had multiple chances to succeed. T. Lawrence should be in the same position as J. Fields & Lawrence has more years🤣🤣🤣🤣
None of those QBs have ever done what Brock Purdy does. You've NEVER seen Mahomes Allen Jackson 3step 5 step 7step ball comes out. They don't throw anticipation throws. They press a Defense with their threat to run and extend plays so no they can't play in this system. With Kyle
