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First Thoughts on Warriors of Krynn - The D&D Boardgame 

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It's not often that one of the great minds behind Wizards of the Coast asks you if you would like to be one of the first to play their brand new D&D boardgame. And when they do - you say yes!
This is exactly what happened whilst at D&D in a Castle - I got the opportunity to play the new Warriors of Krynn boardgame and let me tell you that it exceeded my expectations. Take a look and find out why!
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@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
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@nortonsapple227
@nortonsapple227 Год назад
Will you have print on demand copies of the nautical guide?
@oldsoldier4209
@oldsoldier4209 Год назад
Oh, I would absolutely love more reviews of similar products, particularly those that can be used both in and out of campaigns. I know that this game comes with, I believe, 12 scenarios that match specific moments in the campaign. Does anyone know yet if there are instructions for creating new scenarios? That would certainly increase my interest in acquiring this game.
@RIVERSRPGChannel
@RIVERSRPGChannel Год назад
I like the reviews but I don’t see a pole so I’ll leave this comment
@taccntb4345
@taccntb4345 Год назад
DnD 2nd ed “Battle System" is all we need. That is war.
@oldsoldier4209
@oldsoldier4209 Год назад
@@taccntb4345 I was still young when that released, but it has always been a bit clunky. Sometimes, it could even be immersion breaking, and using it required a great deal of prep from the DM. That's why I created my own system. From what I have seen so far, this seems more streamlined, and more versatile. If it is also customizable, with a system for designing scenarios, it has the potential to be a better option. If not, I probably won't spend money for it.
@firstimpression7529
@firstimpression7529 9 месяцев назад
I came here because Ollie’s had a huge sale and this was $10 in the US.
@joeykonyha2414
@joeykonyha2414 8 месяцев назад
If you’re watching this in January 2024 this game is $10 at Ollie’s.
@realnarwhal
@realnarwhal 7 месяцев назад
yup, thats exactly where I got mine, I didn't even know the store existed until I checked it out today lmao
@arifmemovic3383
@arifmemovic3383 7 месяцев назад
​@@realnarwhalThey have pretty cool board games on sale pretty often.
@grishatheorc4396
@grishatheorc4396 5 месяцев назад
Lol literally *JUST* picked up this game at my local Ollie’s for $10. Worth it for the minis alone imo
@eddiesilguero1060
@eddiesilguero1060 Месяц назад
Lol same hahaha bought from Ollie's 9.99
@cyberpsyduck3625
@cyberpsyduck3625 Месяц назад
Same here lol
@alycadabra7956
@alycadabra7956 9 месяцев назад
I was able to buy this game new for 10 bucks and I was coming to RU-vid to try and see if there was a play through and your review really some things up and gave a great perspective. My 12 year old son really seems to be into dungeons & dragons, but rarely do we have the time to sit down and actually play together so I feel like this is a good way to step his toes in and teach him how to play certain elements
@dirtactual
@dirtactual Год назад
Our Dragonlance campaign group just played our first battle in the board game and it was sooo much fun! We still role played our characters and there were key moments of the board game that were very cinematic moments for our rpg game. I’m sure it’s not for everyone but, wow, did we have fun playing it during our session night.
@NathanGrajek
@NathanGrajek 8 месяцев назад
Just picked this game up for less than $10 at Ollie's! Glad to see it'll be fun!
@theULTIMATETetris
@theULTIMATETetris 7 месяцев назад
Same. That's why I'm looking at reviews now.
@evansj18
@evansj18 Год назад
Comparison to Pandemic is apt considering one of the designers of Warriors of Krynn is Rob Daviau.
@LINK__loz
@LINK__loz Год назад
As someone who read dragonlance when I was younger I am very excited for this adventure!!
@jamesalexhowlett
@jamesalexhowlett Год назад
I’ve heard the first 3 books are top tier fantasy, but I’ve also heard that after those first 3 books, all the stories afterward are just ok
@LINK__loz
@LINK__loz Год назад
@@jamesalexhowlett you definitely need to read the first trilogy, which is amazing. Then after that the legends trilogy which isn't as good but still good. Everything else is ok.
@TarikZeraoui
@TarikZeraoui 5 месяцев назад
You hear wrong, actually the second trilogy is much more better than the original. And other Dragonlance trilogies and novels are also top notch.
@tabbingphafner3681
@tabbingphafner3681 Год назад
Wonderfully worded review, you have convinced me to watch for it as well! Thx as always!
@benmwalls
@benmwalls Год назад
I loved the board game reviews you did last year so much - especially more with your impeccable duo, if possible - because your input offers fun palate cleansers to fight those mid-arc doldrums. This is probably more aimed at TTRPG groups, ideally, but even for my fringe-interest friends too so that I can have more options (maybe even seed interest like any impish devil should, hehe).
@johnjones6115
@johnjones6115 Год назад
I remember when TSR did this for Greyhawk- modules Five Shall Be One, Howl from the North, then you had to switch to the board game Greyhawk Wars.
@AbelMcTalisker
@AbelMcTalisker Год назад
A number of the original Dragonlance modules were the same. You could play as individual PCs or, in addition, play through a series of wargame scenarios using the old D&D Battlesystem with some of the PCs in command. Seems like they are trying to recreate that with this game. I wonder if they intend to release some supplements for this to cover big Dragonlance battles like the High Clerist Tower or the underwater battle in Istar. Perhaps even the big, final battle at Neraka.
@AndrewFishman
@AndrewFishman Год назад
I am seeing a lot of comments about the cost. Shop around. You can find this for a good price on many online stores. I picked up a Deluxe Preorder for $123 AUD which converts to $85 USD. This was from my usual online store who I order my 40K and stuff through, so you do not even have to look too hard. For those in Australia - The Combat Company $123.95 + $10 postage or FREE post over $150. Gap Games $159.95 +$10 postage. Both are reliable and solid after-sales service. I have used them for many years.
@realnarwhal
@realnarwhal 7 месяцев назад
I just got this game from a store that had like 100 boxes of it just sitting out, and picked one up, and cannot wait to try it out and play it 😂
@carlosdademon
@carlosdademon Год назад
The funny thing about this is that my name is Krynn and I was named after this.
@RavenCoyote
@RavenCoyote Год назад
you have awesome parents
@ShortArtGuy
@ShortArtGuy 9 месяцев назад
@@RavenCoyotei think *possibly* he may be lying
@RavenCoyote
@RavenCoyote 9 месяцев назад
@@ShortArtGuy don't spoil my joy:)
@yseson_
@yseson_ 6 месяцев назад
That is the funny thing about this youre right
@striderfox71
@striderfox71 6 месяцев назад
I personally love the idea of using different systems to simulate different large aspects like "Large Field or Siege Battles" or "Large to singular ship Battles" myself, or at least the idea of building ontop of a foundation game like dnd could be with more and more games ontop of it. The idea of the "Mega Game" is becoming a thing for me.
@blackmage471
@blackmage471 Год назад
I love a good board game. Based on what is presented here, Warriors of the Krynn strikes me as a D&D themed novelty item trying to be a board game rather than being a well-made dedicated board game. If anyone wants to try a really well-made D&D-style board game, try Gloomhaven if you haven't already played it. It's huge, it's challenging, it's complex, yes it's it's expensive and takes a long time to play, but it's also a unique and wild experience. If the board game is out of your price range, there is a digital version.
@withatcontext
@withatcontext Год назад
I like cypher system for this. Tidal blades board game along with my cypher system campaign has been super fun
@lorcandruid
@lorcandruid Год назад
Very interesting review Guy. The boardgame is something I've been considering buying to play as a standalone product and your review would encourage me to do so. Btw I'd certainly love for you to continue doing relevant product reviews in future as you're honesty in reviewing products is refreshingly. Keep up the good work!
@huhhhhhhhhhhhh09
@huhhhhhhhhhhhh09 Год назад
I've heard very little info on this game but have been very interested. Excited by what was said in the video!
@justinankeney6344
@justinankeney6344 Год назад
My experience is limited to Lords of Waterdeep board game, but it seems that the DnD board games really hold up well on their own as well-made standalone games. Lords of Waterdeep is probably one of my favorite worker placement games that I have played.
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
The big thing about this one: it's meant to integrate into your game. Although I've only seen LoW being played, I've played some of the dungeon crawlers of theirs, which are frankly pointless.
@justinankeney6344
@justinankeney6344 Год назад
@@HowtobeaGreatGM Yeah, if I want a dungeon crawler, I'll play Descent or Gloomhaven, maybe some HeroQuest, probably not a DnD dungeon crawler board game
@fan-i-am
@fan-i-am Год назад
If u like LoW then u should DEFINITELY check out YEDO. It's like LoW on steroids! Fuedal Japan city of Yedo/Edo with better player interactions. I can't play LoW anymore!
@derokk
@derokk Год назад
Great review Guy! I can’t wait to get my box (pre ordered a couples of weeks ago!)
@Liveforfilms
@Liveforfilms Год назад
Great to hear. I was unsure how this would work with the scenario so it all sounds rather exciting
@Danny191
@Danny191 Год назад
I wonder, with Mass Battles coming in the form of WoK, if WotC will be releasing a Blood War inspired modual/game
@powerist209
@powerist209 Год назад
So I wonder if it would revive Dungeon Command? Part of me imagine a unit set for Harper but including Drows (mostly themed on Eilistraee since Harper are their Allies and provide “tank” unit via Darksong Paladins). Even if it’s skirmish level.
@DarthP00P00
@DarthP00P00 9 месяцев назад
Just found this at a discount store for $10... had to get it. Don't know anything about Dragon Lance or D&D. Looks neat though.
@bonzwah1
@bonzwah1 Год назад
wow. That's a glowing endorsement I gotta say. I am now likely going to purchase this boardgame, and I might even end up purchasing the accompanying dnd campaign, when I had no interest in either before watching this video. I hope you were compensated properly for the influx of sales that are likely a direct result of this video.
@wishpunk9188
@wishpunk9188 Год назад
Is it worth 150$ is the next question.
@richestmanintatooine7131
@richestmanintatooine7131 Год назад
no
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
I think that is a hugely valid question. I was speaking to a 'collector' of D&D stuff and they're going to get it, although did smart at the price. Personally, I wouldn't get it, as I'm not a collector, and am too much of a rules-creator as a DM. I'd value the boardgame at maybe $50 - $60, the book at $40-50, and the DMs screen at $20. Does that hold up? Well yes because you get the D&D Beyond inclusion which is another $30+. Having said that, unless you really plan on running a lot of Dragonlance is it worth it?
@AndrewFishman
@AndrewFishman Год назад
If you look around the various online shops, I am sure you will get it cheaper than $150 (I assume USD). I got a Deluxe preorder including the Warriors of Krynn, Shadow of the Dragon Queen and DM screen for $123 AUD which is about $85 USD. Just do some shopping around and you will get a good deal.
@xGarrettThiefx
@xGarrettThiefx Год назад
It's 5e...so no way.
@AndrewFishman
@AndrewFishman Год назад
@@xGarrettThiefx No way what?
@christopherchristianvanlan1809
@christopherchristianvanlan1809 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review..I just love when the verdict is thumbs up for a game I already planned to buy anyway..phuiii now I can relax . i feel positivism 😅
@whiskeygamesnerdstuff789
@whiskeygamesnerdstuff789 Год назад
Looking forward to giving this a try.
@JohnCarneyPlus
@JohnCarneyPlus Год назад
Thanks for the review. This makes me want to give it a try.
@Dungeons_and_Crawdads
@Dungeons_and_Crawdads 9 месяцев назад
Just picked this up from Ollie’s on sale.. I love DnD but don’t often get to assemble a party.. but my niece and her boyfriend and my nephew are interested in learning, and I’ve never DMed before so I’m hoping this is a good introduction into DnD for them! (Especially my nephew as he’s only 10). Will continue watching the video but glad I found your channel!
@thegoodgamergary5564
@thegoodgamergary5564 8 месяцев назад
Same man
@Zr0din
@Zr0din Год назад
Thank Goodness! I was really worried after straight up being told by multiple RU-vidrs to NOT BUY SpellJammer. I'll wait for the boardgame night at the local store to see this played before I buy this. I'm not a big dragon lance fant. I even read the books when they came out but they didn't strike me as so special.
@kevinbirge2130
@kevinbirge2130 Год назад
War Machine rules, Rules Cyclopedia (also a boxed set). Great mass combat rules, but not well-remembered. OD&D had Swords&Spells, which was the son of Chainmail. Also a very good game.
@googleuser2609
@googleuser2609 Год назад
War machine rules are the best ever created for mass combat in D&D.
@CountryBwoy
@CountryBwoy 8 месяцев назад
So funny to see this randomly right now. With all the BS Hasbro has been up to recently. Just last week or so Krynn has been bought up for the Ollie's discount stores. (Which means I need to go get one....or two depending on the price.) I really just want the minis
@spacegirl226
@spacegirl226 8 месяцев назад
I bought this at Ollie's a few weeks ago. It cost $9.99. Be really careful pulling the minis out of the box. Mine were stuck in quite tightly, and I was afraid they'd break. Fortunately they did not. The pieces and tokens are nicely done, but the game seems overly complex to me. I'm going to hopefully play it tomorrow night with my friends. I hope we can get through it okay. My Ollie's also had some game tokens for $3.00 each I picked up. "Campaign Cases" for terrain and creatures. They might come in useful if you play with pen and paper.
@janderson5773
@janderson5773 Год назад
I Would love to see other Videos on your thoughts about there other board games!!!
@Demondragonkinggav
@Demondragonkinggav Год назад
Doesn't D&D have mass combat system rules with the Old 2nd Ed. Series called Birthright?
@Newnodrogbob
@Newnodrogbob Год назад
I still remember chain mail, the system they had that expected you to buy squads of pewter minis for large battles…
@robertchapman7451
@robertchapman7451 11 дней назад
Yes played it with darksun my self
@TheProteanGeek
@TheProteanGeek Год назад
I am hopeful that there will be a way to either use the scenarios or make custom ones that will work in campaigns outside Shadow of the Dragon Queen.
@zionich
@zionich Год назад
This is great news. My experience when it comes to board games is first impression goes a very very long ways. Learning all the little rules one might miss the first time comes later.
@marccaron6008
@marccaron6008 Год назад
Sounds amazing! I'll get a copy.
@ewoutpols9017
@ewoutpols9017 Год назад
glad i pre-ordered one 😂
@Beldea98
@Beldea98 Год назад
Are we going to see another DnD board game compatible with the other 6 adventurr board games? I searched a lot on google but I haven't found anything..
@madnessofmad
@madnessofmad Год назад
Thanks for the review, but not looking into the character porting system was... unwise. Would have liked to see more of the game than just stock shots of its contents. Good delivery however :)
@Novasky2007
@Novasky2007 Год назад
I think i'd play it but not as part of a D&D campaign, i have been running huge battles in dragon lance for decades tho using my own method
@Zr0din
@Zr0din 9 месяцев назад
OK. It's the end of 2023. It's been a year since this boardgame was released. Did you play the boardgame more than twice? I never found anyone playing this game. Not even on RU-vid. Even in actual plays, I never found one where they cut to the boardgame instead of bypassing it and moving forward in the plotline.
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM 9 месяцев назад
We have played it. Sadly not to conclusion yet - but we loved it. The official tutorial is a bit boring but once you are into it, the game is great.
@allluckyseven
@allluckyseven Год назад
Will wait and see, but so far it didn't get me excited (and this has nothing to do with your review, Guy, just o be clear on that). Dragonlance is very near and dear to my heart (I'm considering running it in some other system) and so far this doesn't really seem like the Dragonlance I know.
@kmoustakas
@kmoustakas Год назад
I liked your side of reviewing this
@minine6508
@minine6508 Год назад
The only thing I have against this product is how anti-online it is 🙃 suppose I’ll be waiting for the Tabletop Simulator version to come out
@syd4890
@syd4890 Год назад
Thats precisely why I am interested haha but yeah pretty sure an online version will be on the way
@marcosmata8233
@marcosmata8233 Год назад
What if d&d was a miniature wargaming? What if miniature wargaming is curse like jumanji?!
@RIVERSRPGChannel
@RIVERSRPGChannel Год назад
Sounds interesting I was thinking of getting the deluxe set to get all in one I just don’t like the price. Nice review
@AndrewFishman
@AndrewFishman Год назад
SHop around. You can find it at a reasonable price fairly easily. My usual online store has it for $123 AUD ($85 USD) which for book and game I consider more than reasonable.
@nathanr5077
@nathanr5077 Год назад
Please for the love of ANY GOD, tell me why adventure tile #17 is listed twice per scenario #4 AND #5.
@nathanr5077
@nathanr5077 Год назад
Anyone have any insights?
@Castorshells
@Castorshells 9 месяцев назад
17B is listed in tiles needed, I would go with that. Sub 17A with something else and add recruit. That's my best guess having just got this.
@artistpoet5253
@artistpoet5253 Год назад
Sounds cool...is there a solo mode?
@ChadTheDragonLord
@ChadTheDragonLord Год назад
Yes, please review other D&D board games.
@christophermills7693
@christophermills7693 Год назад
I'm not getting it. Waitng for Weis's and His ( I'm sorry I forget his name, though I'd know if I s aw it) New Setting.
@AndrewFishman
@AndrewFishman Год назад
Tracy Hickman
@kungdswe2940
@kungdswe2940 Год назад
Love rollplay and boardgame, but dont see the space for this. When it comes to boardgame gloomhaven does it better (beside the price) and when roleplaying our battles are carried out with better figures and real terrain made by 3D printing and/or XPS foam.
@HiddenGhost00
@HiddenGhost00 Год назад
Is Lord Soth also in the boardgame?
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
I don't know, we didn't get very far into the game and didn't get to see all the cards. My gut would be no, but I could be wrong!
@infinitedm5396
@infinitedm5396 Год назад
I mean the only difference between a board game and a role playing game are the distance between dice rolls. You can turn any board game into an RPG just by . You know. Roleplaying in it.
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
Yes and no. I only roleplay boardgames when I play, I can't help it. But there is still a very different mindset - you are much more constrained in what you can and cannot do in a boardgame right? You can't wander off the board for example.
@infinitedm5396
@infinitedm5396 Год назад
@@HowtobeaGreatGM right and there's always what you can and can't do in RPGs as well. Anything outside of that is basically playing pretend. One could simply lay out the mass combat subsystem as a board game and strictly interact with it as such. But I feel as a dm you could make sure to encourage the players to keep the tone of imagination and colouring in the empty spaces the game doesn't talk about. Id liken it to taking the attack action. As a player I could just say I attack and roll a d20. Much like in a board game. But we add flavor and spice with narration and suddenly the mechanics come to life. I'm not sure how hard it is with this game but I know I can do that with most games. Even checkers if you give me enough time ;) Anywho. That's about my whole point :)
@johngillan4475
@johngillan4475 Год назад
Nice review
@AuthoritativeNewsNetwork
@AuthoritativeNewsNetwork Год назад
be interesting to see if the Mass Battle system cannibalised?
@Vagabond820
@Vagabond820 Год назад
Love the opening. 😂
@Arnsteel634
@Arnsteel634 Год назад
Board game. Yes. But redoing old settings no. They duck it up everytime. Batting 000
@smaspa8627
@smaspa8627 Год назад
Was there any bad blood after the spelljammer video? This was one of the harshest thumbnails/reviews
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
I was worried there might be... but as it was all done in the name of improving the game I can happily say I've become good friends with those I met :) In fact they encouraged me to maintain my voice and views as without critical feedback there can be no improvement.
@smaspa8627
@smaspa8627 Год назад
@@HowtobeaGreatGM that is wonderful to hear!! Appreciate the response, some time I’ll have to make it out to that castle
@maunderjape8365
@maunderjape8365 Год назад
I read the hell out of those books.
@kasperkenobi4398
@kasperkenobi4398 Год назад
Sounds like a decent game. What holds me back is the quality and look of the components. I think so much more could have been done. I don't like the little rectangular army blocks, the cardboard is flimsy, the miniatures very poorly painted (washed) and the whole game looks cheap, when compared to other boardgames in the same price range. Disappointing, could have been great...
@DavidLovins67
@DavidLovins67 Год назад
I always thought for large scale wars for D & D, that all you have to do is pull out your RISK set sitting in the closet.
@RavenCoyote
@RavenCoyote Год назад
bwahaha actually did this once
@laughingpanda4395
@laughingpanda4395 Год назад
I watched a review and walkthrough of the rules for this game and the book. It isnt needed and tbh it looks like it would break immersion quickly. It isnt neccessary to the game at all and to be honest it doesnt look like it's worth the extra 100 bucks you'll spend for the deluxe edition. I'll pass and just grab the book.
@AndrewFishman
@AndrewFishman Год назад
Extra $100? I got my Deluxe preorder for $123 Australian, which is $85 USD. So I do not know where you are getting $100 extra when I did not even pay $100 for book and board game and bonus DM screen.
@TK421trooper
@TK421trooper Год назад
i don't think great minds and Wizards of the Coast should ever be in the same sentence.
@KingZNIN
@KingZNIN Год назад
They hit the ball every now and again.
@armorclasshero2103
@armorclasshero2103 Год назад
Oh look, the battlesystem; same as the old battlesystem...
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Год назад
@tinaprice4948
@tinaprice4948 Год назад
I buy board games for the minis :( so not enough for me to buy it. I love board games but my husband doesn't :( So unless they stuff a bunch of minis in there I would feel guilty buying it
@ckmishn3664
@ckmishn3664 Год назад
"Great minds at Wizards of the Coast" When did you become a comedian?
@KingZNIN
@KingZNIN Год назад
Are you saying that they can't make a good thing every once in a while? Especially when they have access to the minds of the Hasbro boardgames department?
@ckmishn3664
@ckmishn3664 Год назад
@@KingZNIN Yes.
@KingZNIN
@KingZNIN Год назад
@@ckmishn3664 aww ok that's the type of person you are.
@kosterix123
@kosterix123 Год назад
Never heard of it
@fightingfortruth9806
@fightingfortruth9806 Год назад
I'm honestly curious how you would pronounce the word, "costle" differently from the word, "castle".
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
Alas my accent betrays me.
@drkmwinters
@drkmwinters Год назад
Starts at 2:00
@Satori2046
@Satori2046 Год назад
Yeah no, I'll never play this, thank you :)
@Spartan9095
@Spartan9095 Год назад
More like Warriors of Cringe. I haven't even watched the review yet, I got nothing.
@sirellyn
@sirellyn 9 месяцев назад
I'm a HUGE fan of D&D, but I have to admit, if they offered a playtest of ANY of their recent products, I'd decline. I don't want to anywhere close to anything those woke "sensitivity writers" have even been in proximity of. They went from AAA, to ultra garbage. I guess that why I've seen a zillion of their board game at Ollies.
@zachmckinney2497
@zachmckinney2497 Год назад
A good video, but God that board game is ugly as sin
@Beaurisque
@Beaurisque Год назад
I'll keep it on my radar... but I've very skeptical. I don't see how it's "a great boardgame"; it seems so simple and generic, pale and bland copy of other boardgames...
@raysithlord20
@raysithlord20 Год назад
Its hard to put a lot of value into your review, when you admittedly start it so closed minded about the product.
@HowtobeaGreatGM
@HowtobeaGreatGM Год назад
I don't think I ever state that my view is impartial. I think I went into the boardgame with as open a mind as possible whilst still having thoughts that most D&D players would have: will this work in my game?
@coda821
@coda821 8 месяцев назад
Great minds, at WOTC? Sorry. U lost me there.
@user-hr1rw7zy4i
@user-hr1rw7zy4i 7 месяцев назад
are you kidding me - quality components??? wiz kids is infamous for crap components - didnt yous ee the "art" on the characters - did you not notice how utterly cheap and unprofessional they look???
@HunterMayer
@HunterMayer Год назад
All this is doing is codifying larger scale battle with a different set of rules. Uh... Like ship to ship battles. I argued in your 'spelljammer is crap 👎' video (not the best first impression of your channel imo) that you missed the point of that products intent (I don't think that was written for you and your tastes either (you seem to need more crunch and/or vermicilitude.) You needed more content from an into scenario book+nostalgia monster book+intro adventure..., I.e., you wanted less of an intro intro. This was all n to a starter box imo. Which just based on the advertised page counts alone screamed "light weight intro" and I adjusted my perceptions immediately, sono got to enjoy the content sans but hurt. I also paid starter box prices for my copies.) But I really digressed there, what I said what I thought you wanted was a change of scale from the focus of d&d out of the box. Spelljammer needs a boardgame approach to ship battles to give you what you want. A change in scale benefits like that being done differently (at times) and not forced (e.g., opposed to slapping on additional actions to simulate and farce of an action economy... But strive for a quantum rules shift to make this larger scale interactions more entertaining and engaging.) It will be interesting to see how FORCED using your player as a player/general is in the dragonlance boardgame. This tickles my fancy though. Harkens back to the old DL 11 module that was more of a wargame than a RPG and really put you into that space.
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