FIRST TIME HEARING Ren X Chinchilla - Chalk Outlines (live) | REACTION 

next "The big push i shot the sheriff/road to zion/hip hop"

I just got older and learned to relax

Yes, that’s what this song is about! Feeling numb, almost dead on meds, in a “chalk outline”. But on the flip side, also dealing with intrusive suicidal thoughts when you don’t take the meds. Saying they rather take it just in case because your good day could go bad in an instant, as depression doesn’t follow a schedule. But always hiding it all behind a great big smile, like so many people do everyday. It’s heavy, raw and all too real for so many people who struggle with mental illness.

There's are videos of Ren and another great singer named Sam Tompkins singing in the streets for tips with just a simple amp and microphone and sounds awesome

The Big Push busking/live song: I shot the sheriff/road to zion/HipHop Ren is SOOOOOO talented.

Meds dont work for all, i work in mental heath with autistic kids. Most treat symptoms not the cause. Keep going with the natural approach and be kind to yourself and those you love. Ren and Chinchilla killing it. Ty for you and your good ladies reaction and input. Keep smiling that is infectious, proof try not to smile when your little one smiles at hou. Blessings to you and yours from uk.

Ren’s music forces us to look inside ourselves and have the hard conversations which is a gift through his music ❤

They're trying to say that medicine is given for everything, sad... take a pill, emotional take a pill... it seems to be the first thing out of any doctors mouth "here's some pills" instead of actually offering some support. I think the song is relatable by many who suffer at all with any type of anxiety or mental illness. Great reaction guys, I love this song and was excited to see it up here ❤

Songs from ren I would suggest are "fire, love music 1,2 and 3, humble featuring Edin nash, ocean featuring Edin nash, life is funny, bongo bong, and anything with him and Sam Tompkins as well as his band The Big Push cover of I Shot the sheriff

Money game part 1 and 2 you may like ...clever ..what is happening NOW

had a feeling you would enjoy this too. thanks for posting

Ren was misdiagnosed and a lot of people are and will sometimes take medicine that harms them for a very long time, because so much time is spent playing Russian roulette with the medication that they are too far gone when it times to treat the root of the problem.

Ren has an old song he posted 7 years ago called Fire. It is amazing!

You may not be a singer or a rapper but sharing what you feel and experienced is great for all. When looking at objects & subjects the more perspectives the better the view. i appreciate your words.

Think with having a kid you would appreciate rens song called: Dominoes. Would also love to see you react to both money game 1 and 2.

I like your take on medication, a lot of medication treats the symptom of the problem and not the core of the problem. Most people need some purpose to help carry themselves through the suffering that life will undoubtedly bring upon us all.

Chinchillas voice, sooooooooooooooooo good. the Perfect Duet you could argue

Yes yes yes more Ren yes.

So good thank you for appreciating the artist Ren ❤❤❤

For me and my experience dealing with anxiety and bipolar I find meds help me but only to a degree....the rest are positive coping skills like prayer music even motivational readings even short quotes from Tik tok. That's why I like your reactions both of you are open and honest. Ty You both for making a difference.❤

6:44 what a great guy you got there , asking you about your opnion on depression , you open up while he is texting

I'm med-resistant to most antidepressants. And med-sensitive to pain meds. I don't even like taking otc meds. Introspection and self care are very important. But music is the most therapeutic for me! I NEED THIS MUSIC TO LIVE!!!❤

Check out Chinchilla Fingers (live). Her vocal performance in that will blow you away!

Yet another masterpiece composition from Ren! :)

"Take this one and you'll be fine.......there's a pill for everything".......is what the doctors tell Ren & Chinchilla....sung with sarcasm and disgust.....their feelings about the quality of treatment for their illnesses......

"CHINCHILLA - FINGERS Live for HungerTV" next please guys! You definitely need to see that at least once in this life!

Chinchilla is an amazing artist as well!

You must check Chinchilla's solo songs too. Her live version of Fingers is phenomenal and one of the best best live performances I've ever seen. Her vocal range and variety is incomparably good. She is talented AF. Think like Beyoncé + Aretha Franklin + Janis Joplin combined. That good...

The thing about taking meds for mental health issues is that nailing down the specifics of an illness can be complicated. A lot of different mental health issues have symptoms that overlap with each other, making it hard to diagnose what the specific illness is (and, therefore, how to fix it). Also, some symptoms that are classified as mental health issues can come from either physical causes OR mental causes, or both (and which one it is can be hard to tell without getting full-on scans). Plus, with mental health issues, doctors have to rely on the patient telling them what the symptoms are and, unfortunately, not everyone is good at communicating that accurately (not to mention the fact that the patient may be perceiving things in a distorted way or have a habit of masking it without even realizing they're doing it). On top of all that, not everyone's brain chemistry works the same way, so the med that works really well and is life-changing for one person might do nothing for another person or even end up being horrible. And, honestly, even in the modern age, there's just a lot about the way the brain works that we just don't understand. Like you, I also have always been one of those people who doesn't even like to take aspirin or anything when I have a headache (unless it turns into a migraine, in which case, gimme, gimme). A few years ago, though, I got hit HARD with anxiety and depression that got so bad I couldn't even leave the house. I didn't care about anything, didn't do anything, and anytime I tried to go to the store or hang out with people or whatever, the anxiety would kick in so hard, I'd have to leave asap. I've described the panicky feeling I'd get when I was out in public or around people like "feeling claustrophobic inside my own body." And when I wasn't around people, I just didn't want to do anything and didn't care about anything. For example, I wouldn't eat for, like, 5 or 6 days because getting up and going to the kitchen felt like too much effort. I spent, like, 2 months sleeping on a 1 foot wide section of mattress on the edge of my bed because I dumped the laundry on the bed one day and couldn't find the motivation to move it. I'd just stay up until I got exhausted and then go collapse next to the pile and fall asleep. Whatever was going on, it runs in my family bc I've seen a lot of relatives go down that road, start isolating, and eventually cash in their chips permanently. Basically, suicide is damn near a family tradition on my mom's side of the fam. Point being, it got so on top of me that, after a while, I was just so exhausted and tired of feeling like I was drowning all the time that I was ready to check out. I didn't want to be dead but I wanted a break from feeling like I did and one didn't seem to be coming. Everything just kept getting worse and feeding back on itself and I really, really wanted to be done. At various points, I tried all the different things that people recommend: Go out and get some sun, take vitamins, meditate, exercise, all the BS hippie "cures" (like apple cider vinegar, various herbs, etc), changing my diet, etc, etc. Nothing worked. It just kept getting worse. Eventually, I moved to a new state and finally went to a doctor. I was fortunate that I got a good one and she really listened to what I was saying, gave me a lot of advice that helped, BUT, most importantly, she started me on an antidepressant. She was very clear up front that I didn't need to stay on the antidepressant forever, just that we needed to break the cycle of depression and anxiety that I was having so we could get a clear look at what was going on underneath it. The first antidepressant I took was HORRIBLE. I felt like I was in a fever dream 24/7 and those suicidal thoughts really ramped up to a level where it scared me. When I told my doctor about it, she said, "Okay, that med is NOT for you" and switched me to a different antidepressant. That one was great and almost immediately broke the cycle I'd been stuck in. I was able to breathe again and get some perspective on the situation. After a while, when it seemed like I was doing okay, we phased it out and I didn't need it anymore, which I was glad about because it dulled me out slightly and definitely killed a lot of my creativity. Point being, some people think of antidepressants as a band-aid that's not really treating the problem, but, for me, it was a bridge to get me to the next step on the "figure out what the F this is and fix it" journey. That's the thing though: For some people, depending on what the actual cause of their illness is, meditation, eating healthier, and taking some vitamins might be enough to fix (or dramatically improve) the problem. For others, it might be therapy that's the key component. But if the cause of your illness is a chemical imbalance or a physical issue in the brain (like, in my situation, it runs in my family, so it's obviously genetic and not just trauma or something), all the meditation, vitamins, exercise, diet changes, and therapy in the world are not going to fix that problem. Sure, you'll be healthier in general and that's great, but the underlying problem is physical and requires a physical fix. I mean, "you can't fix a broken leg by talking about it." For me, my brain either doesn't make enough dopamine/serotonin or it makes enough but clears it out too fast. Whichever it is, the only thing that helps is a pill that alters the way my brain handles dopamine and serotonin. Somebody with the exact same symptoms as me might have a different underlying cause though, and that obviously needs a different treatment. Maybe they don't need the meds and just the lifestyle changes are enough to fix the problem or at least improve their experience of it. If so, that's great. But a lot of times, you'll see those people then going around and telling everybody that meds are a scam, you don't need 'em, just take this herb or that vitamin or whatever, etc. What they don't realize is that just because it worked for them, that doesn't mean it's the solution for everybody because many illnesses look similar while having COMPLETELY different underlying causes. Like how a stomach ache could mean anything from "you ate bad fast food last night" all the way up to "you have terminal stomach cancer." Same symptom, completely different solutions required. And because of this, even the best, most caring doctors are just playing a guessing game. An educated guessing game, but a guessing game nonetheless. They hear your symptoms, make their best guess at what that probably means, and then prescribe the med or treatment that's helped other people with symptoms like yours. If it doesn't help, or only sort of helps, or makes things worse, or makes you feel weird in a way that you don't like, then they'll add that to the data they're using to whittle down the possibilities of what's going on with you and try another med. And they'll keep doing it until you find one that works and doesn't make you feel weird. If you can solve the problem without meds, then great! But if, in the long run, you find the lifestyle changes aren't doing the trick, don't write off meds just for philosophical reasons. If the cause of your issue is physical, you might actually need them to live your fullest life. And, if you do try that route, please understand that every med isn't the right one. You may have to go through a number of them before you and your doctor dial it in. Just take it as part of the process of finding the right solution and don't just assume that you have to settle for "feeling weird" or dulled out. Whatever you do, though, good luck! You're in my thoughts, y'all!

Meds are nessesary if someone is depply in danger of harming themselves and doesnt react to therapy. It doesnt cure you, but it may save your life. Mild and moderate depression a mild dose can get you into activities and get you out of the door, walking and working. The brain is complex and so is depression. If you can manage without meds its obvisly best, but often its a deep brain pattern that is out of your “control”/Long term stress without listening or trauma. No one want to get stuck in emotionel pain. You have to fight against yourself to get up. My prayers goes to everyone fighting. Thx for your reaction, your both good people🙏🤗

My experience was that medication helped me get to a place where therapy and meditation were possible. Without it, I would not have gotten where I am now. I don't take it anymore, but it really can help bridge the gap until you can learn and heal to the point you no longer need it. Big yes to meditation, therapy, and journaling for the long-term answers! 💛

I was on antidepressants for years after being an addict for most of my life. I was a zombie. Didnt feel shit. Never cried. Stopped taking them and cried. I treat my depression with weed and dont feel like a zombie anymore and can actually feel my emotions.

big love ..spread the love ..ren army x

The Big Push!!!💖💖💖. A MUST!!!!!!

Yey! Another lovely song. I have tried 3 different antidepressants and they just make me feel like I've got cotton wool in my head. Everything seems muffled and I feel so tired all the time. So that is why I really love your videos because not only does the music make things better but it's really good that you express your own feelings about things. Thank you 😊

Thanks guys for sharing your experiences and your feelings. I live in Scotland and find it really interesting the different ways we would deal with this. Thamk you

True bliss an beauty comes naturally from within! Just finding it for some ?

If this was released today in the US it would top the charts.

At 52 yrs old all i can say is be honest work hard steer the course and no matter what happens things will work out .

If you haven't already, watch some videos of Rens band The Big Push. Shows another different side to him. They have music videos on their channel for some really good original tracks (such as Dignity, Precious, Why My Woman etc) and there are a few videos of them doing covers whilst busking also.

Big love guys 🤗 The do another together “sexual healing” live, just out on the street

I came back from combat in Iraq and was diagnosed with PTSD. I was put on 3 or 4 different medications. I was no longer scared at loud sounds or angry about everything but I was also never happy. I felt like I was dead inside. So "Chalk outlines" is very appropo to the feeling you may have on anti-depressants.

Just wanted to let you guys know you are my favorite reaction channel ❤ really chill people that i can see are good humans wish and hope you all the best for your future. You are a really beautiful couple and family much love and peace ✌️❤✊ also love ren!! He is the shit right now!! React to 'life is funny' you wont be disappointed and do 'love music part 3' you will be blown away by that performance like i was so creative and fun!

Great reaction and discussion to bring up. Thank you for starting a discussion about meds instead of trying to lay down some absolute truth about meds. I've seen the right psych med completely turn a person's life around--as if a switch had been flipped and they were as close to being "cured" as a person with a mental health issue can be. Sometimes, however, medications do nothing, and sometimes they actively harm people. I've had some meds that have helped my depression and anxiety, and many meds that didn't. However I've found one that helps me considerably, and I've been on it for over ten years. It was a godsend then, and still is one today. It is what it is, kind of like diabetes--it's something to be managed, not fixed. In "Hi Ren", he points out that mental health is an ongoing issue; a dance that you learn to flow with instead of trying to force some kind of permanent "fix". Mental health is such a complex thing. I think it's best to try all avenues of help--meds, meditation, exercise, herbs, etc. In this, there is no one right answer, and whatever works should be supported.

The Big Push - I Shot the Sheriff/Road to Zion/Hip Hop Next please.... If you wanna hear more of his singing voice combined with rap

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As a recovering herion addict I now relay on daizepam at night to stop me thinking about other drugs. I put all my anti-depressant pills in the bin!

Another great vid guys. And Wow, I gotta say Im super impressed and so hopeful for you with how you're taking care of yourself. It can't be easy to put it out there. I'm probably older than your patents and wish I had been as forward-thinking and conscientious as y'all are at your age. Keep it goin. And sometimes meds help and its OK to stop them for a while and start back later if you to. It's not all or nothing, ever. And always remember you're not allowed to give up until you've exhausted every avenue. And there are new avenues being built every minute.

The key to medications for mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety disorder or panic disorder (I am sure there are others I am not thinking of) is to start taking them with the goal to stop taking them. They are helpful while you are identifying and making the life changes necessary to live without them. They are generally not the solution, just something to assist you while you are learning to stand on your own to feet in your daily struggle.

I'm scared of being OK coz all things change....

Rens fuxking it up out here..my guy getting more views than YB's ass lol. He is the epitome of a musician and artist, does all his own music/lyrics. Plays guitar and raps which as a guitar player I can tell you that is hard as hell. Sings,acts I mean what else can he do? Really amazed with him and I haven't felt that way about an artist since Kendrick Lamar first debuted. Before him it was early 2000s and 90s musc that hooked me like that. He restored my faith in music because honestly since 2010ish for the most music hasn't been so good.

Everyone has to figure out which coping skill(s)/mechanism(s) or combination(s) work for them. Some take medication. Others journal, meditate, do affirmations, find religion, and reach out more to family and friends for emotional support. There are many more things that we do to cope with anxiety/depression/insert any mental health condition here. Nice reaction video. Chinchilla and Ren can saaang.

Yoga, meditation, and an occasional dose of psilocybin mushroom saved my life.

Should have listened to live version of "How to Be Me" would've heard vocals more

I've never taken medicine for any depression or anxiety before the only pills I had taken & injections was for my arthritis I got diagnosed with when I was nine years old it's been in remission ever since then but anyway point am making is I deal with mental health is by being positive through out the day & prayer just thanking God for waking me up each & every morning he has aloud me to also expressing myself through my rap verses rather through a written freestyle or a battle rap round

Try Hold On by ren.

Check out Chinchilla song Fingers live version

Ren & Chinchilla How To Be Me is my favorite of theirs, but this song hits me very close to home...

I have diabetes and my high and low blood sugars show up on my husband’s phone too.

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Great reaction! Love your thoughts on routine and what helps you stay healthy. I dont know if its just me but your mic volume could do with a boost. I have to turn you up loud tp catch what your saying which is important! Maybe adjust the levels if possible! ❤

Check out chinchilla’s song “Fingers” The live version. It’s so good

Medical Cannabis has saved my life. I was on prescribed pain medication, sleep medicine, muscle relaxers, etc. I went off it all in 2019 and I just use Cannabis. I've had 5 spinal surgeries and have RA, Insomnia and anxiety. But some people need medication for their severe mental problems and I understand that!

Psych meds = temporary bandaids Took me years to learn this lesson, learning “ new coping skills”

All the medicines I use are plant medicines. Or other natural phenomena that provide healing. For those open to it, the most impactful (by far) medicine for me are psychedelics. Best experiences of my life. But they work on a spiritual level where it pulls back the layers to get to the core of things and opens up your reality for expansion.

The most real line is when chinchilla says the feeling goes and you draw a chalk outline.if you've taken them meds you know your physically alive but inside your dead

find your smile😎😎its there but it my hide🧐🧐🧐🧐

The problem with the world today with talking with someone you know is nobody wants to listen to people they know and they want to act like they know everything that's why family and as close as you used to be people used to listen to each other if you shut the f****** and not let your emotions get the best to you you hear your girl out or your man maybe things would work and you wouldn't have to go talk to a whole another person you don't know but that's why people do it they don't know the person that there's no judgments they can check advice usually because there's nothing in between and a lot of those same therapist you talk to commit suicide and have bigger problems listening to other people's problems that make their life worse

I medicate as little as possible and try to let nature take its course

You should react to CHINCHILLA - FINGERS (LIVE) this video shows what she's capable of. :)

React to a song by The Big Push called War pigs and a song called Money Game by Ren

Sadly, medicine is necessary for a small percentage of people long term, but these days it is the answer for all. That feeling that you walk around like a fragment of yourself on the medication is real. As is the fear that it will all collapse at a moments notice. Therapy can help so many people with that, but that isn't the first response.

In my opinion, the video show 2 ghosts who explain their life having to take some pills to feel good/happy because of mental health problem (or maybe just Chinchilla). The light glitch when the woman appears for her verse for example and the fact they're in white. It's a representation of two souls. The text of this song is so deep and good.

Hey brother it's your reaction talk as much as you want we are here cause we like you. Keep working I appreciate you.

I take meds for my depression they help my panic attacks and anxiety but it doesn't help my actual depression.

In the Uk they tell you we can give you tablets for your mental health but it’s going to make you worse before it makes you feel better witch is just a catch 22 how is it in the US?

Loved the NON-reaction by the chick. Paint dry.

Your reactions are excellent but if you could maybe improve your microphone set up? Really hard to hear both your opinions sometimes. 😅

please stop the "like"....... futher, nice comment.......

Mic levels pretty different male host little echo and female host very low difficulty hearing. Had to turn volume way up to hear her then your voice pretty loud. But I like your content. Best of luck

This is live, not prerecorded this is him singing nothing to help his voice no auto-tune no nothing,

Yes! 5X in under one minute! (I really should be keeping track) Don't really get the appeal of Ren, but music like all other art forms is subjective. But most importantly, congrats on the baby! You guys are so chill and the kid's gonna be great, "Know what I'm saying!" 🤣

Unless its a painkiller, medicine doesnt work. Therapy is the only way when it comes to mental health.

I agree dude. I've been on two anxiety meds. One made me lose 20 pounds in a month, couldn't stop throwing up, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep. The other dulled my personality and emotions almost to the point I was unrecognizable. Off it now. They're awful for the body.

They want you drug dependent, any drug, drugs = money!! 🤬🤬