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So glad you guys are jumping right into season 2. Love Loki’s character development within a short time period. It’s so wild to think that this the same Loki from the first Avengers movie. And also at 12:53, you can see a bit of red glow on his side, that moment where he can’t tell what’s gonna happen next, that scene sync perfectly with the moment Wanda becomes the scarlet witch.
See you soon.... all was planed along. His dead is the point when the multiverse starts, thats why on spiderman all gets fucked, the Kang in ant man is another version, a "new" one, a conqueror
Jonathan Majors had been announced to be playing Kang for some time already, so it was either immediately known or shortly after learned that He Who Remains was Kang.
Jonathan Majors had already been introduced as a “Thanos level villain” when this episode dropped. Major Marvel fans already knew that He Who Remains was a Kang variant. Tom Hiddleston has a brilliant character arc throughout this series…can’t wait for you all to watch Season 2…it’s phenomenal!
The panic in Loki’s voice in the last scene is just Wow!! Tom Hiddleston’s acting is just phenomenal. Ngl, my heart broke a little bit when mobius said " Who are you? ". The final fight scene between Loki and sylvie was great, you can really understand both sides. Can’t wait for season 2 reactions.
8:08 You misinterpreted Renslayer's search of free will, which I did too. Haha. For Renslayer, the only person who gets to have free will is the one in charge. So when she searches for free will, you can interpret it as: she's looking for the one in charge or she wants to be the one in charge, or both. Simply...power.
I didn't recognize him, but when he said "I've been known by many names. A ruler. A Conqueror!" I realized who he is..... and I realized how much of a threat this casual guy is. Then we got Quantumania and saw just how powerful he is.
I can't wait for you guys to see the glorious season 2. It's so weird, Marvel has been bombing lately and this show is just chef's kiss, heads and shoulders above anything Marvel or even compared to most TV shows out there.
27:18 Technically, the show’s Loki no longer needs to return to the events of the first Avengers. TVA made it so original Loki still remains in all MCU movies and continues to live until Thanos kills him. The show’s Loki (who went rogue) no longer needs to go back and can pretty much do whatever he wants now
I would like to praise the musical score of this series. It is out of this world! I feel that it envelops the show so nicely. I hope you enjoyed it as well!
I knew Jonathan Majors was signed to play Kang the Conqueror in the third Ant-Man film and that Kang was planned to be the 'Thanos-level villain' in Phase 4, 5 and 6. I did not know who He Who Remains would be until the elevator door opened, but as soon as I saw who was playing him I knew his connection to Kang.
Same for me. Well actually it was kinda spoiled at some point during that day before I could watch the episode myself and therefore I could enjoy the reveal... because I wouldn't have known what Jonathan Majors would look like at the time.
That's a bit too many phases, Thanos wasn't even that big a character in 90% of the MCU until his specific movies. Kang is cool but at this point in the MCU we really need Doom.
@@billbill6094 With Jonathan Major's legal problems, I have heard Marvel may have to change their plans. One thing I read is simply recasting the character of Kang. (It's been done before!) Another possibility is re-gearing Phases 5 and 6 to be overseen by another 'Big Bad' with Victor Von Doom and Galactus being the two leading contenders. Personally I would be happy with the re-casting direction as Marvel would not have to re-write and retcon so much of what has already been hinted in Phases 4 and first half of 5.
@@peterkoester7358 I can see Galactus eventually but yeah with how they've structured the MCU these past few years it would be a very bad move after a lot of bad shows and movies. Not a huge fan of recasting but hey, it worked with Don Cheadle, Don Howard could never have made a good War Machine. I like Doom as an option because you can have him be the big twist villain who mops up Kang in the end while every single hero failed, or have masterminded the big conflict with Kang to make it a decisive victory in spite of his infinite variants. It would be _very_ hard to do or justify with any other singular character in any short amount of time. But if Kang suddenly got one-shotted in Avengers 5 and they revealed the metal boots and green cloak as Doom takes the throne, there would be little explanation needed, comic fans know he's him. Plus fans already want RDJ and Evans back, but it would feel cheap for most reasons they could do it, like their deaths meant nothing. But for Doom? Yeah bring their asses back, the MCU will need all the help it can get even with the Avengers and X-Men working together.
I knew He Who Remains was Kang when he called himself ' A Conqueror ' So Boys... Season two yeah? You're gonna fucking love it. You should get the full crew in on it
For context….anyone who read the comics (and other hardcore fans) would’ve known Kang from the coloring of his outfit. There’s a compilation of reactors watching this episode that demonstrates the range of awareness of the character…and just how serious his reveal/presence was in the story. Kang showing up is a big deal.
The biggest problem is they had Kang as the baddie of a bad movie in quantummania and get beat by fucking ant man and he's supposed to be a threat to the avengers? lol They fucked up royally there and took the shine off of him. They either should have never had him in the movie or have him win. Good thing is they are recasting kang so he'll be around, I'd love to see him get crushed by Dr doom and have doom be the real big baddie for the new avenger movies.
Great reaction! Yes this was the first reveal of Jonathan Majors as Kang. After this is when Multiverse of Madness and Quantumania started as this is the catalyst that started the Multiverse Saga
Loki has some of the best character development in the MCU because of this series. They did a really good job of growing him from a despicable villain, to a charming anti-hero, into a legitimate hero. Tom Hiddleston totally owns the role, as he tends to do (The Night Manager).
Who would have thought that the most intense episode of this season wouldn’t be one that had a lot of action but simply a conversation with extreme implications. It just makes you go “whoa” every time.
As a hardcore comics fan, yes I knew that He-Who-Remains was one of the MANY variants of Kang the Conqueror. He-Who-Remains is possibly one of the more obscure Kang variants, I think there are over a dozen named Variants at this point. BTW, it's speculated that the event that He-Who-Remains couldn't see beyond was the moment that Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch in Wandavision. Some people have actually done side by side comparison videos here on youtube showcasing that moment in both series. You might want to look it up.
yeah i dont blame him, its just the whole coluseum of cosplay jonathan majors seemed like more of a gag than a big reveal that they're all plotting something big, idk i for one am glad theyre being forced to accelerate a dr.doom villian@@Z.A.N.E19
I'm listening to your comments at the end. Loki doesn't have to "go back and finish his story" in endgame. The TVA reseted that time line and it continued like it happened in the movies. Loki is kind of living "alongside" that time line but with the TVA. I don't know if I was able to explain it xD let me know
When she said she’s going to look for free will it was she said the only person that have free will is the one in charge so she’s not going out to do her own thing but to look for the one who’s really in charge
Apparently when the timeline started branching and kang didn't know what was going to happen next, is supposed to be the moment Dr strange started messing with the multiverse in spiderman no way home
it was pretty much known that kang would be the next major villain, plus every movie there was no way home, multiverse of madness, and what if pointing to multiversal story lines.
Hardcore fans knew that Jonathan Majors was playing Kang the Conqueror in this episode of Loki simply because of the time manipulation. Kang was often a time traveling/multi versal enemy in the comics. They did change his standard character design, but the plot of Loki was one of the first Marvel shows that started building up Kang as the next big enemy for the Avengers. Though I'm not sure how that's going to go with recent changes...
Jonathan Majors did a tremendous job with this role. Its a shame what he went through and Marvel had to cut him. You are going to love season 2 though! Yes the end credit scene from Quantumania was a teaser for season 2.
I do recommend you to watch "What if...?". It came out after Loki and was a nice suprise, because the series presents, in animated form, different alternative scenarios from the movies hence the name.
28:31 that actually has no bearing anymore since in the first episode of this show the timeline he was pulled from was pruned and him escaping in Endgame doesn't matter anymore
Loved your season 1 reactions😍 and your editing, Dave. And so glad to read you're all going right into season 2!! The show's season 2 and Tom were up for Emmys, Critic Choice awards, but lost all (to "The Bear" I think).
So I knew Jonathan Majors before Loki because of Lovecraft Country, they had just announced him as Kang. For those who watched this live it released before Doctor Strange and the MoM, Thor: Love and Thunder & Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.
Seeing this again, its just crazy how much Jonathan Mayors draws you in with his unpredictable behavior while also having the air of someone above everything. Its a shame that this casting didnt turn out as well as Marvels castings usually do but that episode just shows what we couldve gotten.
Quantummania movie went out much much later after Loki TV show. So you skipping TV shows and going through all the movies wasn't the right move. But you have an advantage to watch the second season after the first one back-to-back.
Guys so much happened in real time watching Loki! The best part for me was when HWR said they crossed the threshold is the exact time Wanda comes to true power and becomes the scarlet witch in the last episode of Wandavision! the time HWR says the line matches the same time in the episode of Wandavision
The part where Kang pauses and says "We just crossed the threshold and I have no idea what will happen next" then drops the apple is the same timestamp as when Wanda became the Scarlet Witch and drops Agatha on the ground.
Of course, this variant of Loki doesn’t have a place to go back to, since right at the start of episode one, the TVA pruned his branch which occurred when he disappeared from New York. So he’s kind of free to go off in any direction!
Loki’s escape creates a branch of the original timeline he escaped. So that Loki still exists and did all the avengers stuff. They cleaned up the effects of Loki escaping bc it wasn’t supposed to happen. The Loki we see now is a variant.
The moment kang pauses while talking to loki and says we crossed the threshhold its said thats the moment in the new spiderman where strange is casting the spell that backfires and brings everyone from different timelines
I follow all the comic book nerd channels here like Screencrush, Reel Rejects and New Rockstars and they explained what was going on and who everyone is. They are very helpful for those of us who don’t read comics.
I think a lot of people knew it was Kang during their conversation when he said he was known as "a conquereror". And then there were people like myself who follow news/announcements, and had known Majors had been casted as Kang a year prior. But anyway great reaction, this show is fantastic especially S2.
OK, the moment you've been waiting for, the Ultimate fun fact: If you play the finale of Loki and Wandavision finales side by side, The moment that Kang says he doesn't know what happens from this point on, is the exact same moment Wanda becomes the Scarlet Witch, which is a Nexus event, which is why he didn't know what would happen from there on out.
I knew of Jonathan before watching Loki bc I watched The Harder They Fall on Netflix. It’s a western directed by Jeymes Samuel with Jonathan as the main character. I thought it was really good.
So leading into the finale of Season 1 of Loki, there were chatters of Kang being introduced into the MCU as the next Thanos-Level threat. The minute He Who Remains mentioned being called many names and "Conqueror" being one of them, it hit that he was Kang. Conqueror is such a well known moniker for Kang that it couldn't just be coincidence. Then we heard ("we" being my wife and I, who are both Marvel comic nerds) that Kang was going to be in Quantumania, and it turned out that he was in his more traditional costume, which tickled us pink! Just noticed your pinned comment. Yo! I can't wait to watch your reactions to Season 2! You're gonna f---in' LOVE it! Incredible show!
Jon Majors was announced to be Kang in Quantumania way before either came out… but there was a lot of speculation that he was going to show up in Loki also
Knew who Johnathan Major character was because of the comics and also because I knew that Kang was the next upcoming big bad. But also when he says he's known as a "Conqueror" that's the big reveal. As Kang's full "name" is Kang the Conqueror.
Wow! What a cool first season! & I like that the Loki character got his own series! It's been a blast watching along seeing your reactions & listening to your discussions! Roll on to binge watching Season 2 with ya now! 😎
Jonathan Majors was announced as Kang for Antman before Phase 4 began when they announced the next saga and prohects, but he was not announced in this show, so it was pure speculation that he was gonna appear in this show as the story unfolded.
Marvel studios did a presentation on the projects coming out in Phase 4, it’s on RU-vid.. in that, they announce majors will play Kang the conqueror in quantumania
We knew it was a variant of Kang, as we watched the episode. Then, when we saw the costume, it resembled him. Kang has been a main villain in the LEGO Marvel games, so that's how I knew him haha.
I knew who Jonathan Majors was because it had been confirmed that he was playing Kang in the MCU so I put it together that he was a variant of Kang but no one really knew he would be in Loki (or at least I didn’t) so that part was a shock when he showed up!
8:31 I will say before this show came out, like a couple weeks before, we knew Kang the Conqueror was who they were wanting to setup, so when he says “a conqueror” it gave us all a bit of hype because we knew who he was talking about before we were sad about quantumania & how he died because of.. well ants😂😂
We didnt know Majors was going to be in this, but Majors being cast as Kang to replace Thanos as the big bad was widely publicized so him being Kang wasnt a surprise.
18:10 Remember that "still alone Loki" that Mason said, it will be important in season 2. This season was extraordinary because the growth Loki had in more than 6 movies he had here in days, incredible. And to answer your question, no, we didn't know who "the one who remains" was, not unless you did some research of your own.
Kang is commonly known as Kang the Conqueror. So as soon as He Who Remains mentioned he’s been referred to as a Conqueror, we all knew who his variant is.
So the reason why loki hasn't gone back to the timeline to finish his story is because this loki is technically a variant of the one who was meant to finish his life on the timeline, so you could think if it as there is another loki living his determined life on the timeline through the Thor movies and avengers movies. This loki was a variant that slipped away and is now living his own life navigating the TVA
I realized he was Kang before quantumania but only because I'm familiar, though vaguely, enough with the comics to recognize the background. I went "OH SHIT!" In many ways he's more dangerous than Thanos.
We knew it was Kang when he said he was known as many names, and one of them was conqueror. Make sure and watch season 2, it's awesome! No one has a better character arc than Loki in the MCU
You are so lucky!! We had to wait 2 years for season 2. But you will jump right in!. It's a blast guys you'll live it. And if I can give you a good show. You need to watch the mini series of dracula only 3 episodes. It came in 2020. It will change your mind, believe me it's worth your reactions and time!!.
multiple valid theory videos have said this including the spider man 3 doctor strange scene but if you saw Loki season 2 you would realize it relates to what happens in episode 6
Some time ago discovered your channel through Harry Potter and really enjoyed your reactions and engaging commentary of various movies and series! Would love to see you reacting Night at the Museum franchise - it's fun and wholesome :)
This was "the big reveal" of Khan, however Jonathan Majors had already been announced as Kang in Ant-Man, thus we already knew he was Kang, when we saw him on screen. There were rumours flying around before the episode aired though, that it would be him, so overall not that surprising to most of us.
If you went in blind. probably not. If you read the comics and remembered who Ravonna Renslayer was you had a pretty good chance of knowing who was at the end of time. If you heard the announcent that Jonathan Majors had been cast a Kang, you probably did - even though this particular variant is known as He Who Remains. Remember the end credit scene of Ant Man and the Wasp: Quantumania with the Council oF Kangs? Those three Kangs are Scarlet Centurion, Immortus and Rama Tut and the main Kang is Kang the Conqueror. But now that Majors has lost his court case and Disney has fired him and Kang Dynasty has been removed as the title of Avengers movie #5, who replaces him? Way back in 1963 Marvel Comics introduced us to Rama Tut (Fantastic Four #19) a time traveller who's time machine is the Sphinx and became pharaoh of Egypt. He was eventually revealed to be Kang the Conqueror (but not in Kang's first appearance - Avengers #8 1964). Doctor Doom also invented a time machine that is a rectangular platform and sent the Fantastic Four back to Blackbeards time (Fantastic Four #5 1962) - you've seen this time machine at work in Multiverse of Madness when Reed Richards appears in the Illuminati chamber from the feet up and a two dimensional rectangle appears to be creating him. In Fantastic Four Annual #2 (1964) Doom and Tut meet, compare notes and speculate that they are the same person at different points in time. The safe bet is that Kang will be replaced by Doom in Avengers movie #5. 2nd best guess - they'll recast and it really doesn't matter who they get - the sex and race of the variant doesn't matter. Sorry if I confused the issue - too much of this kind of stuff rumbkling around in my head.
This came out before Antman 3. And yes, as soon as I saw who it was, I knew it was Kang the Conqueror. Most people thought it was going to be Mephisto instead.
Really insane how they wasted Kang in Ant-Man, especially with his amazing debut. If you want your villain to be a major multi-phasal threat, maybe don't have him lose to flippin' Ant-Man. It's like if they had Dr. Doom lose to Ms. Marvel, that'd kind of be missing the point.
I thought that I was a regular Marvel fan. But it wasn’t until I started watching reaction videos that I realized I was watching for enjoyment and not understanding 😂 I use to miss all the little Easter eggs lol. I’m much better now. But anytime I see something new I come right to RU-vid just to make sure.
After this show aired is when marvel released movies like Spiderman:No Way Home, Dr. Strange:MULTIVERSE of Madness and Antman & Wasp:Quantumania to keep the multiverse theme. So in theory the multiverse didn't exist in the MCU until that point.
during covid they announced all the first few disney plus shows for the first time at disney investors event. they introduced jonathan majors as kang back then. too bad he went and abused multiple women, now found guilty of one, and ruined his career himself.
Moon Knight was my favorite series (can't wait for you to get to it, I'm hoping you do) until season 2 of Loki, those episodes are some of the best tv in general, I loved it a lot
I'm sure that the vast majority had an idea of who we were going to introduce in the multiverse saga, and especially we saw some reactions from reactors to the reveal with the elevator scene. The first thing people noticed was the colors of his suit and they were just waiting for the phrase "The Conqueror" to be heard.
Season 2 is amazing. Honestly, for me, it is the best of all the Disney episodic releases. Gold standard viewing. I cannot wait to watch your reactions!
