I was on the ground at Fisk at 4pm Sunday 22nd. Planes were coming up the track, up to four wide with no spacing. Controller was calling for a mile spacing and didn’t get it. Most were turned back, many ignored the general go back call. Some planes that were right of the tracks turned left across the path of those correctly on the track and those to left of the track. At any one moment we could count 25-30 planes in sight, most were not directly over the tracks, never saw a half mile spacing. Great video.
Outstanding Ripon/Fisk approach. You held calm in the middle of chaos when those airplanes cut you off at Ripon. Excellent flying all the way to the runway !
Very nice landing. A few minutes more we would have heard more about the Tiger Cats. At 14:03 Connie said something about rwy selection. At 15:47 the aircraft that passed in front of you right to left was the first Tiger Cat to land, Connie was behind him.
Nice video - so busy! You guys are a great team. We flew into Green Bay this year, so we could get lodging that wasn't $400 per night....maybe fly-in next year and camp.....looks like fun!!
Super video that can definitely be used to educate other flyers. Crew coordination was very good and Capt. demonstrated great situation awareness, timely decision making and fantastic choice of copilot!
Great job with your spacing. I was on the ground and saw the bunched up arriving planes. The controllers wanted to keep everyone safe; when the spacing of the planes was good, the planes wer routed quickly and orderly. Reading the NOTAM is good preperation. Thanks for posting this video to help everyone make good safe decisions while flying. 😎👍🏻
Nice job. Great video. We were the RV they sent to 36 then back to 9 at 6:15 in your video we had to circle back 3 times for FISKE most traffic I’ve ever seen going into KOSH neat to hear the controllers again. I had the same reaction when we switched to tower I thought I had dialed in the wrong frequency because it was so quiet at first. 👍
Love your video. I flew in a 2pm on Sunday. Scariest environment I could imagine. Planes flying holding backwards, people yelling at controllers, few people following the NOTAM. You did well. Your earlier oshkosh videos helped me prepare for my first flight in. Thanks for the great content.
was watching that afternoon/evening on one of the eaa live channels. it had fisk vfr audio and chat...had flightradar24 open on another window. massive clusterf that day. some pilots reported circling 16-17 times. the yt chat was rooting for one rv coming in from appleton...circled the lakes for 5 hours, flew back home, refueled and came right back in line. circled a few more times and wound up being one of the last planes allowed to land before they closed the airport.
I can confirm that. A buddy and I drove out to Fisk a couple times. Lots of planes were getting turned back and once, a couple planes just kept flying straight ahead despite the controllers telling them to turn back multiple times.
Very nice job. I've flown in over 30 years, but I missed this year. I thought it was bad two years ago, but it sound like you guys set the bar this year. One thing about flying into Oshkosh, it's different every time. Pro tip: Skip breakfast and try to position yourself so your arrive at the airport at 8:00 a.m., when it opens, weather permitting of course. The traffic is much lower and you can breeze right in.
I was listening to the VFR tower at this time. It's like the controllers had to be babysitters. They told everyone what they needed (3/4 or 1 mile spacing). It seemed like a lot of pilots were going around, then cutting in line, so they'd make everyone go around again! Great job again.
We have flown in here since 1986. After the first few times with this crazy action we started flying in on Thursdays which has been fantastic. You can fly in with very little to zero traffic and talk to the tower. Plus you can watch all the mass arrivals which come in on Fridays and then watch this action here on Saturday and Sunday before the show starts on Monday 😎. Good job guys keeping cool.
I'm beginning to think FISKE needs the paintball equivalent of an anti-aircraft gun emplacement to start laying down the LAW on knuckleheads. Nonlethal and nondamaging to planes after flying upwards of 1800ft, you know? Or, maybe less drastically, once ADS-B is universally required, they can call out your ID on air and have the authority to ban you from the Fly-In for noncompliance. Maybe it would sink in to people's heads then.
Hello Captain - Congratulations on the video! I'm a CFI in Brazil, and also have an RU-vid Channel where I talk about aviation. I'm making a video about Oshkosh, just to show to people here in Brazil, how crazy these procedures are! Unfortunatelly, I've never had the oportunity to fly-in, so I have none footage to share. So, I'd like to know if I could use parts of this video to show people how these procedures are. Of course, the original video will be credited and linked in my video, and I'll encourage people to came to your channel and see the full arrival!
Looks like a good classic merge to me. It’s still like this in 2021 but you merge about 5 points west of Ripon so you have a longer flight in with an established line. Also everyone has ADSB out and hopefully ADSB in. When you see people on adsb not flying the full approach- that’s a cut off and really lame.
Personally I don't understand why anyone would put up with all of the Bullshit flying into Air Venture , I just buy the latest aviation journals from Great Britain .
I've only flown in to Oshkosh once in a Cessna 195 back in 1984 I think. I was in the right seat. We arrived 2 days early. Not much traffic so we got a straight in on 36L. About a half mile from the runway the pilot took over. If I ever did it again I would go a week before..
I have not flown into Airventure yet but I think 2021 will be the year. When you aborted your Fisk approach, how far out and back did you have to fly, or did you just do a standard 2 minute turn? Loved the video BTW !
flybob13 thanks for the comment! We flew out far enough to get out of the line of planes inbound on the approach. Then we flew back to Ripon, found someone we could follow, and started the procedure again from the beginning.
Good Job! Busy approach and should count as flying into OSH more than once. You turned back three times.... If you're like me I begin to think about all those guys that are now coming at me. Scary but rewarding!
I was out there in the middle of all that with you, somewhere. Circling Green Lake with at least 10 airplanes within a mile, 4-5 wide coming up the tracks to Fisk at times, turned back 4 times.......1 mile spacing was IMPOSSIBLE, anytime I'd get close, someone would cut in out of nowhere. Was pretty much madness and chaos!
What frequency is being used for plane to plane? What is he make and model of the headset the co pilot is using? On a scale of 1 to 10 what would rate the co pilot headset? Better than Bose?
Nice job, especially under the stress. Would you do it again? BTW, those Quiet Tech. Halo's are the best aren't they? I prefer them to my noise-cancelling over-the-ear ear clamps any day!
I think 36 was being reserved for formation arrivals at that time. Possibly the ~160 plane Bonanza group as I recall. I flew in with the Cirrus formation of 16 at 6:30pm that day and enjoyed it.
Nice! I hadn't see a video of landing on 36R. I heard at the event that Sunday arrivals were awful. Youch. I hope the work on better holding/deferrment procedures for future years, so that they can just tell people to go home and come back when arrivals are open.
My father and I were trying to fly into OSH at the exact same time this was filmed. We circled about six times to ripon and ended up going back to Wautoma when we were both mentally exhausted. Good thing no one hit each other that day, there were definitely a few close encounters! We did end up making it in on Tuesday morning when it was somewhat foggy and there were far fewer planes trying to make it in. Read the notam and fly safe people!
Honestly I thought they had a better plan for mass arrivals. As an average pilot I would not attempt this. Seems there are a number of average pilots that should not be allowed there either if they cannot follow the simple Instructions. And the cutters! I’d want to meet them on the ground!
It is highly suggested to fly in to EAA AirVenture Oshkosh with an extra person so they can have an extra set of eyes because of all the traffic around you it is very difficult to spot and see. Love this video!
For those wondering the vid starts out SW of Ripon a few miles,the smaller lake on the nose is Spring lake and the large Green Lake to the left. Great vid and great flying in the chaos.
Great to see a video of how tough it can be when it doesn't work out the first time. Great job keeping the eyeballs outside and making the right decisions! Excellent audio and video here....
Great flying, and CRM! Flew up from Tulsa OK on Saturday. got as far as Moline IL, took a look at the weather for Sat and Sun, did not like what was forecast for either day. Decided to keep the plane in Moline and rent a car to finish the trip. After seeing this and other videos, along with all the stories I heard during the week, it was a good decision. Missed landing at Oshkosh, but there is always next year.
That was awesome. I'm not a pilot nor do I know much about flying an airplane, but I loved that. To watch your expressions, and hear the controllers, it was great. Thanks
