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Five-Fold Ministry: Is Bill Johnson an Apostle? | Learn More Here: bit.ly/2SiVAJQ
Is Bill Johnson an Apostle? Are Apostles for today? Watch as Bethel Senior Leader Bill Johnson and Bethel Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly discuss the Five-Fold Ministry and how it is active and moving in the Church today.
Please Note: Unlike the previous episodes, this episode has a single camera view.
ABOUT REDISCOVER BETHEL
Rediscover Bethel is a video series that addresses common questions and misconceptions about Bethel Church in Redding, California. This series specifically covers Bethel's theological beliefs, teachings, and practices-featuring Senior Leader Bill Johnson, Senior Associate Leader Kris Vallotton, and Associate Pastor and Dean of BSSM Dann Farrelly. This series includes videos on Bible translations, Jesus' Deity, Physical Manifestations of the Holy Spirit, Theology of Healing, The Gospel of Repentance, Prophecy, and much more.
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Bethel Church in Redding, California is a congregation rooted in the love of God and dedicated to worldwide transformation through revival. Our mission is revival - the personal, regional, and global expansion of God's Kingdom through His manifest presence. It's our goal for God's love to be manifest in signs, wonders, and miracles. The atmosphere at Bethel is charged with faith and exuberant joy, which manifests in all we do. We believe we're on the edge of the greatest revival of all time. It's our vision to see history become His-story as the kingdom of this world becomes the kingdom of our God. We welcome you to join us in this adventure!
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@iwilldieforhim 3 года назад

“You can just call me Bill.” Great answer. Love you Bill.

@chrisbetts6990 3 года назад

I think an interview with Justin Peters would be an incredible watch

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

Bill Johnson would be out of his league. Bill Johnson should simply stop with all of this self-promotion. /Lonewolf Liberties

@travisgilbert8416 3 года назад

I love how these two interact with each other...such humility, mutual respect, honor, and enjoyment of each other!! Thank you for taking the time to share this!!

@yngknj 3 года назад

Yeah, that’s true! I love it as well!

@nickwilkinson5607 3 года назад

Amen

@crisbajcrisbaj468 3 года назад

Pastor Bill Johnson has been VERY APOSTOLIC in my life, and the life of so many...

@markellmckoy822 3 года назад

Thank u pastor bill for the your great insight on the prophetic and apostolic office. Those gift are still in operation for today

@shawnmason8543 3 года назад

They don’t know what NAR is?! Good night! Bill Johnson stood on stage as one of the apostles named by C Peter Wagner as he and Bill brought in the nut case Todd Bentley as an apostle. Wagner talked about the NAR at that time. Bill doesn’t know what it is?!?!

@AntithesisFilms 3 года назад

They are straight up lying!

@shawnmason8543 3 года назад

@@lisstruiksma4510 do they think that no one knows about Bill and the whole C Peter Wagner deal? Do they think people are that gullible?

@shawnmason8543 3 года назад

@Dean Agnor C Peter Wagner, Bill and two other “apostles”, were on stage together while C Peter Wagner explained what the NAR was and that all four of them were a part of it and that they were at that same time there to announce that Todd Bentley was joining it. Bill prayed over Bentley saying he would be greater than Moses. So for Bill to act as if he just found out about the NAR shows that he is a liar and conman. It’s not “bitter root”, it’s thinking and not having my head in the sand. I also want to warn those like who had their head still in the sand.

@AntithesisFilms 3 года назад

@Dean Agnor Do you see your words? Do you hear yourself? Are you setting up an idol with Bill Johnson and Bethel?

@Inharmonics 3 года назад

@@shawnmason8543 I don't know what you're saying - they talk explicitly about Peter Wagner and NAR in another video! Watch that. They are not being dishonest; they most probably mean that the NAR as the internet conspiracies seem to now be defining it is unclear to them. It's like calling John Wimber "NAR" just because he also was friends with Peter Wagner, even though Wimber's beliefs did not align with what is described today online as "NAR" at all.

@Window4503 3 года назад

No. The answer is no. Proclaiming oneself an apostle and encouraging others to do the same is not proper qualification.

@dandugo2020 Год назад

So what are the qualifications?

@dandugo2020 Год назад

I would really like to know if you actually listened to the video and what they were saying?!

@adameaton7747 3 года назад

Bill says the bible does not state that prophets and apostles are foundational to the church and are not in operation today. Just curious about Ephesians 2:19-2 speaking about the church being built upon Apostles foundation with Christ as cornerstone: "So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord." To me, it looks like Paul is defining these offices are particular to church foundation. The foundation has already been laid.

@Bldgrn034 9 дней назад

Show me the scripture that shows the foundation has been laid forever? Because Paul states in 1 Corinthians 3:10,11 that he laid A foundation and that no other foundation can be laid besides that which is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the foundation and the only foundation that can be laid upon. He never said that he laid the only foundation and that it was done being laid. He only said that he laid A foundation. An Apostle is one who is sent by God. Apostles today I believe are sent by God to establish the church and build the foundation of a local church. It’s not about a title but about serving and bringing the glory of God to earth through Jesus as the foundation. To ensure that the church is built upon Jesus and Jesus alone. He also doesn’t state in Ephesians 2:19-20 that it has ceased operating. He just simply states that that is what the foundation is built upon. If you don’t have apostles and prophets in your church then you don’t have a foundation because apostles establish the foundation of Jesus, as well as prophets according to this scripture. No where does it say that they are no longer present… I also believe there is a distinction between the original Apostles who saw the resurrected Christ and Apostles in todays church. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t still present.

@gregorywilkinson5731 3 года назад

Why do people come here and listen to long conversations like this just to pick on the Pastor or the church? Like, just go live your life right? Why are you even here?

@2MileMen 3 года назад

Some people gain relevance, income and influence by following Bethel/Bill Johnson around and playing Pharisee. It seems some are even building entire ministries on finding fault with Bethel....

@outsider427 3 года назад

We need to call out false teachers.

@michaelbaxter7452 Год назад

I came here to try and understand whether there are apostles Alive today or not , because some believe so and others not

@garyking5265 Год назад

The false Apostles and prophets of the NAR which was started by C.Peter wagner don't be decieved by these wolves in sheep's clothing, please look to the scriptures , the word of God is the final Authority and Bill gave one Bible verse and he took it out of context

@thebluecollarbrotherpodcas5211 12 дней назад

@@outsider427sir it is your opinion that he is a false but that’s not my opinion, im not the biggest fan of Bill John but as I listen to explain what he believes, what he is saying holds more than any critics, so if you believe this and apparently the critics know more about Bill Johnson than Bill Johnson, than why are you here? Go to Justin Peters channel, obviously he is your god….

@yngknj 3 года назад

Thank u pastors for sharing such precious views. I’m starting to understand why I get mad at some sermons sometimes. The sermon is not a problem, but each of the fivefold ministries will see church and situations differently. That’s all. And we need the five of them united, together, to bring heaven to earth.

@mikaelnojd6672 3 года назад

Your not an apostel!👎👎👎

@marcosuehara6967 3 года назад

Loved this, much appreciated!

@sabre22b 3 года назад

No. Next question?

@VictoriousChurch777 6 месяцев назад

Glory of God! Praise God! God the Father, God the Son, God Holy Spirit! Thank you Bill and company!

@WilliamtheWorst 3 года назад

ABSOLUTELY NOT. There are specific qualifications for being an Apostle, i.e. personally interacting with the risen Lord and Bill fits none of them. “Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord. They say continually to those who despise the word of the Lord, ‘It shall be well with you’; and to everyone who stubbornly follows his own heart, they say, ‘No disaster shall come upon you.’” Jeremiah‬ ‭23:16-17‬ ‭(ESV)‬‬

@brynwaddell8698 3 года назад

Yes he is, and I have no qualms about saying it.

@bobbyjohnson4243 2 года назад

There are no big “A”, apostles alive today. In other words Apostles that can write scripture. Not happening. There are small “a” apostles who are sent ones who have a calling to plant churches. They always use scripture to do this and build and plant churches. They build on the foundation. The gifts have not ceased, they are in God’s sovereign control. So God will make prophecy or tongues rare as He wills. We should be ok if we don’t see a particular gift because it’s not up to us. We don’t have to worry about that. We cannot teach them, they are given as God wills. All we have to do is keep Christ the center & submit to the sufficiency & authority of scripture. The Bible is the foundation laid by the Apostles & Prophets. We are not laying new foundations today. We go wrong when we idolize miracles and insist that there must be miracles. What we must insist on is that Jesus is the center & that scripture is how we discern and build. The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible and will never contradict the Bible. It’s always Holy Spirit & word, never the one against the other, or the one in favor of the other.

@jonacker3112 3 года назад

I personally believe continuing to refer to people by the title “apostle” given the current climate of the church (at least in America), will prove to be more hurtful than helpful. Not that I am denying the gifting of an apostle, but using the title without clear distinction - within the English language, that is - from the original Apostles of Jesus only will continue to leave people confused and either rejecting people who go by that title (with or without humility), or will by default elevate them to a status and a place of positional honor up alongside that of or close to the Apostles, though they ought not be revered in a such a way. I appreciated this video, but I would love to see more conversation about the language we use and how it affects our brothers and sisters, not to mention the lost. Saying someone, who is likely a pastor, has an “apostolic gifting” on their life, and then explaining what that means in practicality, rather than using the title outright just seems to prove more helpful. Also, I respect Bill’s sentiment in there not being a hierarchy, but as long as we use these titles, people will inevitably see it as such. All love and respect to my brothers and the leadership at Bethel. As well I’m open to discussion here.

@dandugo2020 Год назад

Honestly, I think that people now days idolize the original apostles to be something more than they were. I mean, look at the letters of Paul. There is no level 2 Christian and the very same Holy Spirit that lives in Peter, Paul, and the others lives in the believer that just confessed their life to the Lord 32 seconds ago. It isn't the man because God isn't a respecter of persons and the original apostles had no inherent special gift and the only reason they could do what they did is Christ living through them, it was God doing these things in mere men not super men.

@PaulWashington.. Год назад

@@dandugo2020 Exactly true.

@djunk747 3 года назад

@Bethel Thank you guys for the series, this episode was perhaps though, a missed opportunity. Please speak to us more as newbies (because many of us are) -- there is too much insider nuance to this discussion. The insights are nice, but the subtleties are missed by most who are not regulars, and I think the whole point of the series is to communicate with clarity. I would love to see Bill or Dann just answer the question plainly and explain why. Please start with the basics!

@Bornstella 3 года назад

It would be good to actually address biblically exposited views that the office of the Apostle has ceased, or at least appear to be aware of it, from the authority of scripture. This series hasn't really cleared up misconceptions from what I can tell, but seems to just restate your views with no real rebutle. It makes you appear as if you're not really interested in the authority of scripture if you fail to engage with the tougher questions put forth by other leaders in the wider body of Christ. Yet this is exactly what the actual Apostles spent a lot of their time doing - correcting bad teachings from the scriptures (even each other!). Have on brothers in Christ whom disagree with you from a scriptural basis, someone like Costi Hinn, Justin Peters or even John Macarthur. This would seem to me to be following in the Apostles footsteps for a series addressing "common questions and misconceptions".

@paulkeniston5699 3 года назад

It would be good to present a scripture in support of your "biblically exposited view". Bill was very clear in decalring the Truth revealed in Epesians 4:13 that these gifts (among which are apostles) are given UNTIL " we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measuer of the fulness of the stature of Christ" This is quite clear and easy to comprehend. If the office of the Apostle "has ceased" then it can only mean "we all" have arrived unto the stature of the fulness of Christ. The fact that you are calling for a debate with your "other leaders" indicates our need in this present time for the ministry of Apostles, Pastors, Prophets , Evangelists and Teachers. Please....Bronson Bradley...provide a scripture to suport your claim that the office of the Apostle has ceased.

@Bornstella 3 года назад

@@paulkeniston5699 It's like you're intentionally misunderstanding my post? "Support your claim that the office of the Apostle has ceased" is a fallacious statement, I haven't made that claim at all. I don't even believe that claim. The fact that you seem unaware and dismissive of biblically exposited views that state the office of the Apostle has ceased is exactly my point. You've only reiterated what the speakers in this video might claim. I haven't even begun to attempt to relay the view I mentioned, so don't try to come at me as though I am failing to support my apparent view. This video series is intended to clear up misconseptions about Bethel, in this case the office of Apostle, yet isn't addressing what those misconseptions are according to the authority of scripture and so fails to really clear anything up, just restate already held beliefs.

@paulkeniston5699 3 года назад

@@Bornstella Wow. Your Ambiguity regarding your "claim" is mesmerising. I have reiterated the Scripture, as did the "speakers" ( who demonstrate proper respect for 'bishops' and 'pastors' while prefering not to be named as 'apostles')...but you Again fail to present scripture to support your ambiguous claim. The scripture has "cleared it up" but your comprehension of this truth has 'failed' . I am no expert...so I will help you chase your tail on this around and around argument...a true apostle gives "no Place" to such vain babbelings.

@Bornstella 3 года назад

@@paulkeniston5699 Oh gosh, my man, read the description of this video buddy. You keep saying and implying I have claimed to believe that the office of Apostle has ceased. I have not, specifically and intentionally. You fail to understand my post and even my response, and now venture to claim a holy-than-thou stance with your final comment. Such a shame. I can only encourage you to venture outside of your bubble to hear such opposing views. And so, although my original intent was not to present the opposing view, but speak to the effectiveness of this video series I still will leave you with these introductory snippets from said opposing view: Requirements to be an Apostle: 1. First person eye-witness of JC (Acts 1:22; 10:39-41; 1 Cor. 9:1; 1 John 1:1) 2. Directly appointed by Christ (Mark 3:14; Luke 6:13; Acts 1:2; 10:41; Gal. 1:1) 3. Ability to work miracles (signs) of the Apostles (Matt. 10:1-2; Acts 1:5-8; 2:43; 4:33; 5:12; 2 Cor. 12:12)

@Inharmonics 3 года назад

The likelihood of people like Justin Peters or John Macarthur interacting with anyone like these Bethel folk is close to zero. John Macarthur refused to even interact with Dr. Micahel Brown, let alone anyone like Bill Johnson. He does not regard charismatic believers as genuine Christians and thinks they have all blasphemed the Holy Spirit. Either way, I'm glad I've put the days of endlessly going through cessationist arguments long behind me. The Bible seems not to indicate the gifts have ceased, nor that the "gifts" of pastors, teachers...and yes, prophets and apostles - have ceased. Nothing in Scripture indicates a ceasing in the way I've seen it argued. By God's grace, I've also seen these realities for myself (not that everything claiming such is real, or that "subjective experience" counts for anything for certain branches of Christianity), and don't see any edification in looking for new complicated arguments as to why all of this is a deception. These RU-vid answers may not be enough for a certain intellectual, reformed dialectic, but that doesn't mean they're not good answers.

@Mfbhealingministry 3 года назад

I love these videos! Bill exemplifies humility and grace and I’m grateful for all he has given the Body of Christ and really appreciate the impact Bethel has had on the world. Also Dan F is really funny and I love how easily he laughs 😁

@esthertrouton417 3 года назад

An Apostle is someone who saw the risen christ, which no one living to has seen.

@terencelockette1982 3 года назад

Just curious but is that what the Scriptures say or does this come from human understanding? Not imply but explicitly say?

@rabitrouh 3 года назад

What about Paul?

@terencelockette1982 3 года назад

@@rabitrouh Right. Paul was blinded by the light when he met the Lord so how could he physically see him??? However, the NLT version translates the greek word horao as seen in Acts 9:27 & 1 Cor 9:1 which can mean to see, look upon, experience, perceive, discern, beware. In addition, Barnabas, Silas, and others were apostles but no mention of them seeing the Lord is mentioned in Scripture.

@terencelockette1982 3 года назад

@Dean Agnor Paul was defending his calling and establishing that he was just as much an apostle as Peter, James, John, and the others. Paul never needed to establish himself as he was already established by Christ Himself.

@terencelockette1982 3 года назад

@Dean Agnor I'm not sure which verse or passage you're referring to. Paul often defended his apostleship because others didn't consider him one or tried to discredit it. His words in 1 Corinthians 9 defends his authority or rights AS an apostle; not him trying to establish himself as an apostle. He had to do the same thing in 2 Cor 10-12 in response to false apostles. I would like to take a look at the context for what you're referring to, sir.

@timkennonjr.2079 3 года назад

This is just nonsense. They are building a kingdom of man.

@mick9371 3 года назад

How do,you get that ?

@mick9371 4 месяца назад

@@Ms.1JesusFollower wow, that’s a judgemental statement……

@aaronstjames235 3 года назад

I don't know what you would call him? One of the best teacher preacher I have ever seen... I believe Jesus would say the same thing!!! He knows it too and he is not arrogant about it, he is just pastor Bill. I have been praying for God to give me some of this wisdom Isaiah 11:2

@rickorider 3 года назад

No BJ is not a prophet! He fails to understand the revelation of the mystery that was given by Christ to Paul the apostal to the Gentiles.

@328am Месяц назад

How are there modern day apostles when Acts 1:21-26 makes it clear than an apostle was there at the Lords baptism through the ascension?

@chrisconway7404 3 года назад

You mean APOSTATE

@RealMarioMagana 3 года назад

Do apostles exist in your opinion?

@paulkeniston5699 3 года назад

He'd prefer that you call him "Bill" .

@4thr634 3 года назад

This comment should be at the top

@Bethel_Online 3 года назад

Watch the full episode here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-a8NIyedUex8.html To see the entire series go to: ru-vid.com/group/PLUaRlPOu98p0clsG0U0jGoU91tl5q3-sK

@willwade5154 3 года назад

No he's not

@comingkingdom5429 3 года назад

NAR...another label that Satan can persecute.

@thatcopperingot32509 4 дня назад

Doesn’t Apostle mean that you have seen Jesus or am I wrong

@Bethel_Online 4 дня назад

Apostle is a 'sender' - or a 'sent one'.

@justywhite7840 3 года назад

Loving this

@miraclerainbowbutterfly Год назад

I love you ALL so very much 🤟♾️🌈

@Emilycrystalc 3 года назад

Beautiful!

@Joshualovespeople 3 года назад

He is. I’d like to hear more about being a servant than a leader

@karencarden2316 3 года назад

I receive a lot about that from Sunday’s sermons. Be very blessed

@PaulWashington.. Год назад

The Apostle is both leader and servant and first in both

@henryhenry5897 3 года назад

Answer to Titel: NO!

@mbryan4964 3 года назад

Jesus has titles too. Or we just call Him Jesus. Same for Bill... What Jesus doesn't have is chopped off hair. Stop chopping your hair off Bill.

@ackimnsangwe9732 3 года назад

Kikikikiki 🤣😅🤣. Chopping hair.

@robrashiv 3 года назад

No.

@angelahuang1074 3 года назад

I've been wondering for about 8 years 😆🤣

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

Keep wondering... because Bill Johnson couldn't even convince himself in this video that he is a prophet. /And so it goes...

@jonathanschilling7730 3 года назад

Stop responding to other people's hate videos. And let the Lord defend you. Jesus never defended Himself when He was accused. It gives people the right to judge you.

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

By the end of this interview, I was convinced that Bill Johnson should have been on the right-hand mic and the Dean should have been on the left-hand mic, and Bill Johnson should have asked the Dean, “What are the marks of MY apostleship?” ... Honestly, this interview was backwards and a waste of broadcast time, because I still don’t know what makes Bill Johnson an “apostle”... /Lonewolf Liberties

@WilliamtheWorst 3 года назад

Both are false teachers. There, I fixed it for you.

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

@@WilliamtheWorst --Here's the thing: Had Bill Johnson given a Scripturally valid reason for his 'apostleship' on this public forum, I might have taken him seriously. As it is, I'm as unconvinced as both Bill and Danny are; (by the way, I love your handle)... /Lonewolf Liberties

@WilliamtheWorst 3 года назад

@@GeoCalifornian good point, and thank you.

@markferguson1338 3 месяца назад

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

4:17 “Explain how you let people call you that?” This conversation is not very thoughtful in its beginning when that odd question is posed to Bill Johnson, a self-proclaimed apostle. Why was the interviewer so tentative, even unsure about this whole subject of ‘apostle’ the title given to Bill Johnson?-he admits he’s “uncomfortable” with that title, but not with the title “pastor”... Something just doesn’t ring true here... /Lonewolf Liberties

@rileywiley268 2 года назад

They never read chunks of scripture in one go. Verse here and there out of context

@yoyomama2773 3 года назад

Unfortunately the future prophecies that have come from bethel have been 100% wrong so it makes you wonder if the gift is for today. And the apostolic structures that have come from bethel have brought more embarrassment and Shame on the church than anything. Bethel your track record sucks

@TheHatchet2 11 месяцев назад

They said the same about OT prophets and killed them. They turned out to be right in the end. Jussayin

@zachlehkyi9951 3 года назад

Yo bill why don’t you grab gandolfs staff again you gay wizard lol

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

5:41 The interviewer cannot even ask Bill Johnson point-blank “what are the marks of YOUR apostleship?” He dances around the question and is afraid to even ask the direct query to his own superior! ... I don’t believe either man in that room really believes Bill Johnson is an “apostle”... This is not the way to conduct this interview... /Life Coaches, pay attention.

@djunk747 3 года назад

While I agree with you that this was not the best way to conduct this interview, and Bill probably should have turned the question around, it seems clear to me Bill does believe he is called as an apostle, and Dann does also. They are just being way too humble here and so indirect, that only insiders see the confirmation. Dann doesn't "directly" ask the question because to him, he doesn't need to. They think they're being strong enough as is. But he is not afraid.

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

@Dean Agnor --With his fruitless title 'apostle' Bill Johnson 'prophesied' over, and accepted Todd Bentley into the "office" of prophet, and even co-ordained him in public with Peter Wagner and other "apostles" and "prophets" in Florida ... this is a matter of public record. ... But Todd Bentley was already failing right under their noses, and 'apostle' Bill Johnson has not so much as retracted his false "prophetic" utterances given to Todd Bentley on that day or offered an explanation to his followers. ... Current events teach that the modern day "apostle" or "prophet" is merely an example of gross egocentrism. And so it goes... /Lonewolf Liberties

@GeoCalifornian 3 года назад

@@djunk747 --"Only insiders see the confirmation"? Very odd. ... Then what is the point of this public RU-vid video? ... It was put out for public consumption. But only insiders know what it means? /Life Coaches, pay attention.