Five Hats and Forgotten History

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Some of the most common viewer questions that are received at this channel regard The History Guy's hat collection. Military uniforms were impacted by practical needs, historical events, and the preferences of powerful leaders. The History Guy talks about collecting military "covers" and why the United States Navy once had five different colors of the same hat.
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@williamsanders5066 4 года назад

Happy birthday History Guy! As a retired Navy Sailor, this episode is very close to my heart. Operations Specialist First Class Petty Officer, OS1(SW/AW)

@whiterabbit-wo7hw 4 года назад

Thank you for your service.

@williamsanders5066 4 года назад

@@whiterabbit-wo7hw You're welcome

@663rainmaker 4 года назад

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@Nunofurdambiznez 4 года назад

@@whiterabbit-wo7hw I second that comment, "thank you for your service"

@navret1707 4 года назад

My father was Navy in WWII. He called the “fore and aft” cap a “piss cutter”. When I traded my Dixie cup for a piss cutter I thought they were great. All you had to do was hang it through you belt and you never lost/left it. I never got used to the regulation cover for officers. I found it too cumbersome to drag around and was a pain to find on the tables with all the other identical covers. I always like the Av greens. Unfortunately, for me, they did away with that uniform just before I was commissioned, then brought it back (for a while) just as I retired. Damn the bad luck. Fly Navy 🇺🇸

@petesheppard1709 4 года назад

Also referred to as a 'c**t cap' by the even lower-minded.

@robertheinkel6225 4 года назад

In the Air Force,they were called a c*nt cap, because when not in use, it looked like a female body part. Times have changed since then.

@davideasterling2729 2 года назад

@@robertheinkel6225 When I was in the Navy, my WIFE told me "Don't forget your c**t cap!" as I was about to walk out the door without my cover. When I spun around with my jaw nearly on the floor and before I could say a word, she informed me that was how both she AND her mother referred to the female "garrison cap" while they were in the Army.

@rev.w.santos2764 4 года назад

Fifty years ago I was an MP, and I wanted a flight jacket for the cool nights. I went into town and bought a old flight jacket at the surplus store in town, then went back on base to the supply Sgt. and turned in the jacket for a new one...........

@jimtownsend7899 4 года назад

We used to have a saying back when I was in (USN, '75 - '95): "How can you tell the difference between an Aircrewman and a Storekeeper? The Storekeeper is the one in a flight jacket."

@quillmaurer6563 3 года назад

The jacket probably then went straight back to the surplus store. Wonder how many times it was used that way.

@nunyabusiness4904 3 года назад

@@quillmaurer6563 I wouldn’t imagine the store complaining, imagine being able to just keep reselling the same exact jacket over and over again.

@wmwho 4 года назад

I just had a Basic Training Flashback.... "WHERE IS YOUR COVER?" (Forgot my hat when running for formation)

@arakheno4051 4 года назад

Straighten your cover! .. until the day I die

@fitnessoni7881 4 года назад

Me too and tech school

@matthewellisor5835 4 года назад

How badly did you get smoked?

@travisadams4470 4 года назад

I too remember being yelled at for not having my cover!

@TERoss-jk9ny 4 года назад

Arak He No: No doubt! I see a crooked hat, cover, I freak out!

@briangarrow448 4 года назад

That's a great story about the reporter and Admiral King. "Out of my way, Chief!"- The line that molded a nation's uniforms. Too bad that sentence wasn't uttered by a professional baseball player from Pittsburgh. Wait for it... Because every good story should have Pirates in it.

@Houndini 4 года назад

That is a great story. I bet made King wonder many nights. What did I do wrong on this idea? Why don't people understand this simple idea?

@henrypuyi5485 4 года назад

@@Houndini He was an Annapolis grad, good ideas are few and far between there. lol

@johncopple6479 4 года назад

Bravo !! Well played !!

@heyyou5189 4 года назад

Arggh!

@jimwesterhoff409 4 года назад

hey you .

@Jay-ln1co 4 года назад

There's four regulation US Navy uniform colours. "That's dumb, we need to come up with one, standard uniform colour." There's five regulation US Navy uniform colours.

@quillmaurer6563 3 года назад

So basically the same story as when someone tries to come up with a new universal standard electronic connector (for example phone charger). All they did was just add yet another incompatible type.

@capti443 4 года назад

Outstanding! As a retired Navy Captain, a proud dolphin-wearing submariner with 30 years of service, plenty of "fruit salad" on my chest, "scrambled eggs" on my covers, memories of going head to head with Soviets, with two masters degrees from MIT thanks to the Navy, and so much more, I applaud your excellent accounting of our fine traditions! BZ!! Love watching your well-conceived and expertly- crafted channel!

@JerryWilliam63 4 года назад

Nice touch showing a portrait of JFK with his cover.

@SteeringSteel 4 года назад

Well, I would say that this video pretty much “covers” it all. Thank you History Guy :)

@ultimafuego 4 года назад

I'm a navy vet and Mr. Roberts is my favorite navy movie. I'm so happy you showed it.

@michaeldougfir9807 4 года назад

You and I have spoken about US Navy and Coast Guard "covers" before. Now this episode covers it all for the combination cover. Thanks for calling the chin strap by that name, and covering that as well. Perhaps the only thing left is the 1/4" wide gold chin strap for midshipmen and Warrant Officer 1 ranks. Another good job, Sir -- Michael Dougfir, US Navy vet.

@bilburns1313 4 года назад

When I was in Navy boot-camp, the drill instructors liked to drill into our heads when indoors - to not wear our cover, as it's for covering our heads, and inside - the roof was already covering our heads. Thus, they were using the word "cover" (by the 1980's, when I was in) as a mnemonic device to remind us to not wear the cover inside..

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад

Strangely, the Army do wear indoors.

@jamespfitz 4 года назад

Only because by the 1980s hats had been out of fashion for so long that young men simply didn't know it's rude and uncouth to wear one's hat indoors.

@louisludlum8030 4 года назад

Bill Burns Except when armed.

@rcknbob1 4 года назад

@@WALTERBROADDUS No, we don't. The Marines do - when "under arms."

@shawnr771 4 года назад

@@WALTERBROADDUS We did not.

@alkjhsdfg 4 года назад

Short version: a bunch of high-ranking divas in the navy had different opinions about which colors look best so they kept adding colors.

@jimbobjones5972 4 года назад

And the story about "Chief" King and Admiral Nimitz is hilarious!

@jackmcgonegal8728 4 года назад

As a retired Naval Officer, I particularly enjoyed this episode. Aviation Greens was my favorite uniform and was what I wore when I was assigned to the U.S. European Command in Stuttgart, Germany. The soldiers and airman on the staff thought I was a Marine. The Marines thought I was a Canadian. However, one U. S. Army sentry at the HQ building, when he saw me, exclaimed, “wow, sir, Aviation Greens. That’s been an authorized Navy uniform since 1917.” Turns out his hobby was U.S. military uniforms.

@cuyvaldar3741 4 года назад

Reminds me of my dad's Air Force dress whites. He wore then only once. The opening of Space Command at Peterson AFB. That uniform spent years in a box under the bed. When the Air Force got rid if dress whites he took it back to clothing sales and was able to get a refund.

@danricher9709 10 месяцев назад

Everyone hated the Whites! As a Senior Enlisted guy Stationed at Hq SAC, I was expected to have white uniforms. (I also had a white Mess Dress uniform jacket.) I wore the Class A once. It was so dirty after standing on the parade field for an hour that it had to be dry-cleaned twice. I never wore the Mess Dress. The white uniforms were retired shortly after the Chief of Staff retired. I couldn't give them away. Not even the SAC Museum wanted them, and the retired Chief of Staff was a CINCSAC. Yes, I know there is only one CINC now.

@mikeklaene4359 4 года назад

When I was active duty US Army from '66 to '68, the Khaki was my favorite uniform - with the "overseas" cap.

@1joshjosh1 4 года назад

In Canada a more common term is " remove your headdress please". When entering a messhall for instance. Or just five or six guys yelling "headdress headdress!" Because you forgot.

@jimbobjones5972 4 года назад

"Headdress Headdress, eh? Sorry."

@pintaco4299 4 года назад

Sounds canadian

@PaulFlude 4 года назад

I think head dress is the general term in the uniform reg.

@minuteman4199 4 года назад

@@PaulFlude It's also the term used on parade when you are ordered to remove your hat.

@jamesleathers5488 4 года назад

When I was in the Army 73-81 we had two types of Class A Uniform caps. The Overseas Cap similar to what you have shown and the flat Garrison Cap commonly referred to as the "C*** Cap."

@dadillen5902 4 года назад

Or piss cutter. Air Force.

@pauldietrich6790 4 года назад

Atlanta airport has claimed many of mt "garrison" caps...

@richm7797 4 года назад

Da Dillen we called them that in the Navy as well.

@lancerevell5979 2 года назад

In my Navy service, early 1980s, that hat was officially the "Service Cap". The Marines called hats "covers".

@matthewellisor5835 4 года назад

Some of your presentations are thrilling, some somber, some encourage the listener to introspection; This was excitement and joy. I'm happy for you in your completed set. Thank you for sharing it with us.

@davidgassner9119 4 года назад

"Put a cover on your gourd maggot", USMC boot camp 1966.

@RCAvhstape 4 года назад

@orionh3000 He'll still kick your ass into next week.

@Nunofurdambiznez 4 года назад

@@RCAvhstape and we'll help him do it!

4 года назад

Your reason you offer for your collections is exactly what got me into antiques -both furniture and electrical appliances! I've got some serious prized pieces, including the original box that came with my 1954 GE Electric waffle iron with interchangeable griddle plates; with three cats, a 66yr old box from a waffle iron is absolutely furniture!

@youngbloodk 4 года назад

I love the hat episodes. As a note, when I was in the Navy, back in the 1980s, the overseas cap was called a garrison cap. All hats were generically called covers, but the brimless one was specifically called a garrison cap, and the round hat with a brim was a combination cap. As a kid kid, watching all of the World War II movies and documentaries, I was fascinated by the great variety in Navy uniforms. Great episode.

@snapjamwoodworks710 4 года назад

Great video!! I had a lot covers while navy, to include the iconic dixie cup, which is officially called the White Hat..." Go figure. One of the decision factors for joining the Navy when I was 17 and entering boot camp at 18, was the fact that on ships the sailors wore ball caps with the ships logo or name/hull number. I had always wore ball caps growing up. CWO4 Aviation Boatswain (ABH prior), Retired 2016 after 30 years of service.

@Lessonswithbuddy 4 года назад

Thank you for this video! I appreciate the etymology of the word cover for accuracy in your detailing the naval hat history. My sister just retired from the Navy so the timing of this particular upload was perfect🙂

@Kickinpony66 4 года назад

I'm a US Navy Submarine Service Veteran and I must say... What a great video! You just presented "Video Proof"of why we had to have so many Uniforms! (even in the 1990's). Ok... So, my Basic Daily Uniform was the Dungaree Uniform, but I also had Working Blue, Working White, Dress Blue and Dress White; all of which my White-Hat "Dixie Cup" was Authorized Cover. Once I was assigned to an Afloat Command (USS Jacksonville SSN-699), I was assigned a "Ballcap", with Ship Identification etc...

@bwhog 2 года назад

I love items that have their own unique story, like the guy who wore it or how it fell into private hands or similar. Nothing beats being able to have someone visiting, hear them comment on your collection, and then pulling an item out of a display case or off a shelf and start telling its story!

@QuestionEverythingButWHY 4 года назад

“History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.” ― Winston S. Churchill

@stephenpowstinger733 4 года назад

Make it too, he might have added.

@MrJamesjustin 4 года назад

I love this show. Every episode is very interesting, and I always learn quite a bit. Cheers History Guy.

@billhiggins-ha4all795 4 года назад

As a Naval Academy graduate, it is great to learn this 43 years after I became a plebe. This would be a great addition to reef points, for the plebes coming in. The five stars for Fleet ADM King look far smaller than the four for Admiral. Thank you as well for showing "Mister Roberts". My ultimate point as a midshipman was singing tribute to Henry Fonda, as he received the Kennedy Center Honor.

@timgelder4263 4 года назад

This reminds me of when I enlisted in 1974 Zumwalt was changing the work uniforms from blue shirts, dungarees and Dixie cups to some God awful getup that no one looked good in and I can't even describe.(edit: The new dress uniform was a suit like a Chief wears and milkman covers.) Thankfully when we got out to the fleet we could still buy and wear dungarees and baseball caps along with cracker jacks and Dixie cups. The boot camp junk went in the dumpster

@kyleelmer3231 4 года назад

More covers please. Let’s hear about the Dixie cup.

@shawngilliland243 2 года назад

aka the squid lid

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад

It's a shame that after 100 years of Naval Aviation; Eugene Ely has no Carrier in his honor.

@bak-mariterry9143 4 года назад

And I live in Norfolk , Virginia , reside not far from where Ely took off.

@1joshjosh1 4 года назад

How many carriers do you think America needs? You guys are already 23 trillion dollars in debt. I know let's borrow some money from China and build another aircraft carrier.

@bak-mariterry9143 4 года назад

@@1joshjosh1 You live in Japan ?

@DanGoodShotHD 4 года назад

@@1joshjosh1 That was an ignorant comment.

@peekaboopeekaboo1165 4 года назад

@@1joshjosh1 Yes. The should just rename their carriers instead of building new Super Carriers for maintaining hegemon.

@dalekidd420 4 года назад

The evolution of the military uniforms of MANY nations is a fascinating subject in and of itself. And, might I add that as a reenactor, it's a damned EXPENSIVE one!!!

@ifga16 4 года назад

Your lead photo of the young Lieutenant, standing with binoculars, on the bridge of USS Missouri, had a descendant aboard the ship on her second commissioning in 1986. He was an Operations Specialist who was featured in a photo illustrating 'hazing' in the Navy in Newsweek magazine. He was in costume, dancing in competition in the Shellback ceremonies as we crossed the equator at the date line. That is the Golden Shellback. I can say, modestly, that it was my photograph as part of the PAO staff. BTW, it was a pirate costume, to make it a great story.

@ICUNA22 4 года назад

I never heard of the term "cover" applied to what you wore on your head until I went to Marine Corps boot camp in San Diego. The term "cover" was clearly explained to all of us recruits by a drill sergeant. After that the matter was settled! It was also explained to us that we never wore a cover indoors, and always wore it outdoors. Sempter Fi!

@frankhinkle5772 2 года назад

What if you were "under arms"? (Or armed, if I am using the phrase incorrectly.) And I know that Navy regs say that you are not to salute unless you are "covered." If you intend to salute a superior officer, you wear some type of cover.

@stevedietrich8936 4 года назад

The little known WW 2 battle of The Hue, where the US Navy fought the US Navy over whether to use a battleship grey hue or a khaki hue, eventually won by Admiral Nimitz by outlasting Fleet Admiral King.

@richm7797 4 года назад

That was Fleet Admiral Nimitz as well.

@stevedietrich8936 4 года назад

Rik Mik Not until December 1944.

@admiral06472 4 года назад

Great episode! Thank you. I was on enlisted US Navy active duty in the late 1960's and a member of the active US Navy Reserve well into the 1970's. I remember well the shift of the enlisted uniform from blue jumper to blue jacket and tie (similar to officers and senior enlisted chiefs)in 1973. Along with that change came the traditional cover, black brim, strap and white vinyl fabric top. As I recall that uniform did not go over well in the ranks. The Navy returned to the blue jumper around 1980, having realized their mistake. Also the standard military drill command to remove one's hat while in ranks is "Uncover- Two" and to put the hat back on is "Cover- Two". I look forward to your next post.

@Me2Lancer 4 года назад

Thanks for centering on the Navy for your discussion of covers. I'm a navy vet. My dad was a wwII navy chief petty officer who left active duty not long after the end of the war. In mentioning colors, when I served there were contrasting terms; brown shoe and black shoe navy, brown for aviation black for the rest of us.

@sreggird60 4 года назад

If you ever watch The Caine Mutiny Jose Ferrer's character a Naval aviator is first seen wearing a green uniform.

@colbeausabre8842 2 года назад

Herman Wouk served on two Destroyer-Minesweepers in the Pacific. In the Fifties there were a couple of million vets who have hooted derisively if the film got the uniforms wrong

@workhardism 4 года назад

HATS off to another great episode! Sorry couldn't help myself. LoL.

@stevenwatson7668 4 года назад

Yeah, that was a good one As an old retired Marine I often wondered about covers History 😅

@heathermichaelson3526 4 года назад

I just found a box of my dad’s old covers. He retired a Senior Chief (in 1987) and I mostly remember seeing him in his khaki cover, so seeing what I think was his first one out of basic in a box was awesome.

@beerdrinker6452 2 года назад

I spent 21 years in the Navy. When I made Chief and could wear the khaki combination cover I thought I was going to die from happiness. Great episode. The first and one of the few times I ever saw aviation greens I thought the guy was some sort of U.S. Marine. Great episode. Thank you.

@benjaminbone4248 4 года назад

On Covers: In the Marine Corps one is required to be under cover at all times in uniform. In practice this means that if we aren't under something like a roof, we must have our cover on. As a rule Marines don't wear a cover indoors at all (and also don't salute) unless they are on duty.

@jimbobjones5972 4 года назад

Same with the Navy. Cover at all times when not inside. I was a Corpsman so the saluting rules were pretty relaxed, between Corpsmen and Medical and Nursing officers, at least after Corps school.

@PastorPatrickWinfrey 4 года назад

I was in the Army, and cover is worn outside, accept when carrying arms...then you remained covered inside...

@petesheppard1709 4 года назад

If 'under arms', even a duty belt for guard duty, a Marine is expected to wear a cover, even indoors. Also, Marines do not salute if uncovered.

@mikelucas3119 4 года назад

I salute you all - just basic manners - I try to tell my students (I teach 7th grade) that you NEVER wear a hat when there is a roof over your head - EVER - no matter how many idiots you see doing it.

@RCAvhstape 4 года назад

One exception is when on a flight deck or flight line; loose covers are considered FOD hazards and can cause a lot of damage if sucked into a jet engine.

@jcreateturner 4 года назад

Cover rather than hat reminded me of an air force riddle: how many trucks are on this base? Answer: one, the top of the base flagpole. All the other "trucks" are vehicles.

@fredricknolan3905 4 года назад

You minimum number of trucks on the base and where is it located? Answer is One and under the ball on the base flag pole. Try this line what is lowest ranking officer on the ship and where is his duty station on deck? Ensign and on the bow flapping in the breeze. The difference between a boat and a ship is a boat you can put on a ship but a ship doesn't fit on a boat. With a name of Jody how many do you know? Cadence's that is.

@bigmikeh5827 4 года назад

Admiral King sounds like General Shinseki. Jammed the black beret down the army’s throat. Rangers were the only ones officially wearing them. The change was not needed, wanted or appreciated. Today’s services (I’m retired army 21years service) with the fiasco of uniforms. As we used to say the “Good Idea fairy” sprinkled dust on the situation. Great video. I too collect history. Love your stories.

@firefalcon9368 4 года назад

you sir, mr history guy, have a gift of making something as mundane as navy hats both educational and interesting. a rare gift.

@philipcoggins9512 4 года назад

Halsey apparently didn’t like the grey uniforms because it, “made naval officers look like bus drivers!”

@julesjames593 4 года назад

@Me Smith Per usual, Adm Kinkaid is quietly saving everyone's bacon while they boast about the sizzle.

@Riceball01 4 года назад

@Corazon Sierra You do realize that there were Union units, usually state militias that also wore grey uniforms and Confederate units that wore blue uniforms or no uniforms at all.

@DeconvertedMan 4 года назад

Man we should have been taught this in boot camp - to learn the history of the uniform, that would have allowed us to understand WHY it matters so much. *sigh*

@chrisslky7018 4 года назад

It might have been easier to stay awake in class. ha haaa

@Firstname137 4 года назад

If you were in the Marine Corps, then they would have more then likely told you the history behind the uniform . At least it was like that when I was in

@jimtownsend7899 4 года назад

@BC Bob When I was in ('75 - '95), flightsuits were not authorized for off-base wear. They were considered "organizational clothing", not a uniform. Then again, same thing with dungarees. When I see the weird combinations of uniforms they wear nowadays, and after seeing plenty of "blueberries" out in town, I would prefer to see the zoom bags instead. I used to wear the aramid long johns under my flight suit, regardless of whether I was flying out of Brunswick or Cubi. There were times, though, when I had on jeans and a t-shirt, or on dets out of Kadena, gym shorts and a tank top (no Cabin Air, flying depressurized on station over the S.China Sea in mid Summer!) Some flights were so hot, we just wore the shorts, tank, flight boots and LPAs while onsta!

@AdmRose 3 года назад

@@chrisslky7018 I fell asleep in class once. It did not end well.

@dragoncarver287 4 года назад

As always, interesting, succinct and to the point. I couldn't watch these for hours on end. but 15 minutes a day, or even twice a day, sure adds to our (my) education. Thank you, HG.

@evinchester7820 4 года назад

LOVED THIS ONE..... I'm an Army vet and when I joined you had Army Green Class A, and B. We also had Battle Dress Uniforms (BDUs). The light weights were just coming out when I joined. Then we got new boots. Padded top of the "barrel" of the boot. Better inserts and speed lacing. After I got out of the Guard in 2005, it seems that they changed the field uniform almost yearly. And the boots. Then they came out with the Blue uniform. And then they came out with the "retro" World War II "style" uniform. It seems that every General wants to leave their mark and use the Army uniform to do it. I've got at least 11 sets of BDU's. Three black rain / winter coats. And the same with Class A's. And oddly enough..I think I might be able to fit into one or two of them....

@SmashedGlass 4 года назад

The "overseas service cap" style had a very different (and completely unmentionable for fear of getting nailed by the RU-vid Police) name while I was in the military :D

@QuestionEverythingButWHY 4 года назад

"Memories of our lives, of our works and our deeds will continue in others." ― Rosa Parks

@jerryw6699 4 года назад

Let us hope.

@stephenphillip5656 4 года назад

Hats off to the History Guy! Another gem of history presented in his own inimitable style. I salute you sir!

@whitedovetail 4 года назад

Every time I hear somebody call a military cover a "hat" I must correct them. I never owned a "hat" when I was in the US Air Force. All I had was covers. Thanks History Guy for making this a video for the civilians who call it a "hat". Great video!

@rays7437 4 года назад

I always thought "cover" was short for "head cover."

@OldMusicFan83 4 года назад

US Army in he 80s, my Drill Sergeants cited 'head gear' when referring to our BDU Caps.

@Gronk79 4 года назад

or you could use the ranger term: "Patrol Caps"

@ELPECEE 4 года назад

Army Regulation 670-1 (Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms) uses the term "headgear".

@aidansharples7751 4 года назад

I remember dismissing a facebook post asserting that british officers in the 18th-19th century were not allowed to duck or falter when leading a bayonet charge. In this situation his cap would be his only cover.

@j3dwin 4 года назад

@@Gronk79 When I was in Ranger school the students from the battalions called them "PC's." I thought "why do we need a personal computer?"

@NanoBurger 4 года назад

@@Gronk79 Or the initialism....PC.

@kevinley8321 4 года назад

Thanks for the info. I have a bit of a military hat collection myself and have always envied yours in the background there. Love your show.

@MrTallpoppy58 4 года назад

So glad the importance of history is being supported by those like you Sir. Its also so interesting to any thoughtful person.

@spamviking 4 года назад

Funniest navy hat related thing I saw was a meme where the text was "Chief told me to stencil my cover so I did" and the picture was the underside of a white dixie cup hat with 'fuck the navy' inside XD

@dirtcop11 4 года назад

Have you done a story about the Wolverine and the Sable, the Navy's freshwater aircraft carriers? A lot of WWII pilots trained on them.

@finddeniro 4 года назад

Lake Michigan ?...Great Lakes cranked out 1,000 of Sailors and Officers.

@hlynnkeith9334 4 года назад

Jesse Oaks That's a story I want to hear!

@ppate5439 4 года назад

The combination cover is a great piece of gear, ... at a price. Provides shade to the eyes but is bulky. Similarly, the enlisted round hat, dixie cups, fore and aft caps (with some impolite informal names) as well as the officer's garrison cap are beyond worthless in the sun. Give me a ball cap, or a jiffy pop cap to provide shade. I even coveted a pith helmet but that never happened. Jiffy pop for nautical types, the Army version of the patrol cap comes to a point. Blessedly the blueberries or aquaflage uniform will soon be as dead and unmourned as King Gray uniforms.

@brianbrown4115 4 года назад

I wish he would do a history on the paddle wheel carriers

@colbeausabre8842 2 года назад

@@brianbrown4115 That the Sable and Wolverine

@jb6027 4 года назад

PLEASE keep the military cap stories coming. They're fascinating!

@robertdeen8741 4 года назад

I like your toy cannon collection. I once built a brass cannon loosely based on the French 75. It was about 8" long, recoiled on it's trunnions and could put a .177 BB through a 3/4" board. Wish I still had it. If I did, I'd gift it to you but alas, I gave it away about 25 years ago. Too bad as I suspect you'd of appreciated it much more. Thanks again for your programs. History is where it's at!!

@chibiinum 4 года назад

This is excellent but it reminded me that im interested in why the Marine Corps flag changed from blue to red. I work for Marines and they don't even know.

@TheHistoryGuyChannel 4 года назад

In 1925 the legendary commandant of the Marine Corps John Archer Lejeune settled on gold and scarlet as the official colors of the corps, reasoning that the colors had been used on the uniforms of officers and men of the Marine Corps most consistently since the inception of the Marine Corps. The U.S. Marine Corps had used a number of different flags to that point, including blue from 1913 - 1939, and during a redesign in 1939 the flag of the corps was revised to match those official colors.

@dannyjones3840 4 года назад

Lejuene's birthday message is also read every year at our birthday balls.

@Onizukachan915 4 года назад

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered Thanks!

@LolUGotBusted 4 года назад

@@TheHistoryGuyChannel I am formally requesting a deep dive into the U.S. Marine Corps. We were taught Marine Corps history in boot camp, some of which I have not been able to confirm, such as the origin of the moniker 'teufelhund' or Devil Dog. In the video I would mention other countries that have Marine Corps (British Royal Marines are awesome), and I suppose it would be appropriate to make a series of videos on the other branches. All gave some, some gave all.

@BA-gn3qb 4 года назад

Blue to Red. Blame the Democrats.

@stevebailey325 4 года назад

I was in the USMC in the early 80s. I still say have s hard time saying "hat", its always a "cover" to me. :)

@RCAvhstape 4 года назад

We do not go to the bathroom, we use the head. Walls are bulkheads. Ceilings are overheads. Floors are decks. Doors are hatches, windows are portholes, and stairways are ladderwells. Left is port, right is starboard, and the foreword end of the room where the entry hatch is located is called the quarterdeck. Service rifles are rifles, never guns. "Guns" refer to machine guns or shotguns. It's weird to talk to civilians after a being indoctrinated with naval terminology for months on end.

@ralphdye451 4 года назад

When I was in the Army, the Cap was that thing you could fold and stick in your pocket or belt, that included the "baseball" style cap. The round cap mostly worn officers was called a "Saucer". And of course anything that finished off the top of a Marine was called a "Lid".

@turnermorgan1176 4 года назад

When in the U.S. Air Force, I preferred to wear the "wheel hat" rather than the flight cap. The flight cap reminded me of the Boy Scouts. My crew at Clear AFS, AK, called it "Capt Morgan's bus driver's hat"! I didn't stay in the AF long enough for it to develop a "fifty-mission crush", though.

@wayned1807 4 года назад

I've never worn a hat since my time in the military, not even a baseball cap. I hate the damn things.

@samiam619 4 года назад

Wayne D You must be bald, shaven or don’t mind the sun getting in your eyes...

@ibindare 4 года назад

Navy vet here. I wear one all the time I'm outside. About the only difference between now and my service time is sometimes (but not often) now I will wear my hat indoors. Never did like the Dixie cups. Seemed like the most useless design ever.

@louisludlum8030 4 года назад

Air Force...

@wayned1807 4 года назад

@@samiam619 I'm 72 and still have all my hair and sunglasses work great. I just can't stand anything around my head. Got ordered more than dozen times to put it on when I was in the service. I did wear a helmet when in Vietnam for 18 months though.

@jimmym3352 4 года назад

@@ibindare Also Navy vet (8 years), I stopped wearing them soon as I got out, the exception is when I go hiking. Sun will just scorch my fair skin, and my hair is getting a bit thin on top, and the top of my head will get sunburnt too if I don't wear one when outside for hours. Funny thing is I once heard that wearing a hat could speed up going bald, that was my main reason for not wearing one. Not sure if that's true though. And I'm so thin up top it doesn't matter anymore. I may start wearing a hat more often. Though to this day I still cannot wear a hat indoors, it doesn't feel right. And I also dropped saying cover as soon as I got out, people would just look at me weird if I continued calling them that.

@gregsiska8599 4 года назад

History that deserves to be forgotten: Zumwalt's much despised "Ice cream salesman" uniform for enlisted men. 1975-1982.

@brentgranger7856 4 года назад

The submarine service - the one part of the US Navy that seems to have most influenced modern US Navy uniforms. The modern surface and aviation warfare pins got their inspirations from the submarine badge/pin. It was the submarine service that first began wearing the modern navy coveralls (also called "poopie suits"). According to you, it was submarine officers that first wore khaki uniforms (I did not know about this). I can't speak for the surface or aviation sailors, but US submariners also wear casual undershirts and sneakers while underway instead of the plain white undershirt and navy-issued "boondockers."

@jerryfox1386 4 года назад

I really enjoyed hearing about the items we see behind you. Thank you so much!

@markharnitchek2009 4 года назад

Shipmate, Great episode as usual... especially your comments on the gray uniform...the Navy has tradition of ignoring uniform regulations we don't like ... in the early 1980s we had a "salt and pepper" uniform for officers ... service dress blue trousers and summer white shirts with shoulder boards -- worn extensively in the Atlantic, but not a "uniform of the day" in the Pacific as i recall....that's a clever way of getting around regs ... and of course the word gets out pretty quick -- if the Fleet Commander doesn't wear it, you feel fully empowered to not wear it either ... and the "salt and pepper" uniform didn't last long ... BTW, ADM King would have been a "midshipman" while at the USNA, not a "cadet"...thanks.

@jimbobjones5972 4 года назад

@Me Smith I was in during the early eighties (see my comment). I was fine with anything together with the combination cap. I hated, and I hate, the "dixie cup" with anything but the cracker jack uniform and possibly dungarees, although a ball cap works better with dungarees, IMHO.

@richm7797 4 года назад

mark harnitchek I positively HATED that uniform. Fortunately short lived.

@raytrevor1 4 года назад

Ah - the days when the US military wore proper uniforms and not camouflage pyjamas.

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад

agreed. Camo is dumb.

@GCJT1949 4 года назад

But with the cammies, accidental discharge of lunch is concealed during afternoon formation! Geoff Who was in the middle of the camouflage fatigue conversion around 1980.

@dbmail545 4 года назад

Let me guess. You hated it when nurses switched to scrubs over starched white.

@GCJT1949 4 года назад

@@dbmail545 I hated it when everybody in the hospital went to a bewildering assortment of scrubs and you didn't know if you were getting advice from the Chief of Surgery or the bloke whooping the deck! Geoff Who notes the local hospitals color code and label the staff.

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад

@@dbmail545 Yeah.😷 And yes I dislike male uniforms for females. I liked women looking like women .

@LShapedAmbush 2 года назад

I would like to see an episode on the "black shoe navy" and the "brown shoe navy." Love the channel.

@dougearnest7590 4 года назад

A great video as usual. When the Navy decides to "simplify" the uniform (which it does on a regular basis) you know it's time for the sailor and the taxpayer to break out the wallet. In fact, if you ever decide to do history lessons that are hours in length, you might consider the history of U.S. Navy uniform changes in the modern era. An added bonus: Given the amount of money that changes hands with each simplification of the uniform, that story would also have pirates in it!

@Traderjoe 4 года назад

Personally, I think I’m only the Navy’s case, the uniform would be ideal if it stood out against the average color of the sea in case a man falls overboard or a ship is sunk. Making the uniform the same color as the sea seems silly to me, but I suppose it might have merit if an enemy is looking to pick off survivors.

@TheHistoryGuyChannel 4 года назад

traderjoes good point

@HM2SGT 4 года назад

I refer you to the "polarizing blueberries" www.stripes.com/news/navy-says-goodbye-to-the-blueberry-camouflage-uniform-1.600745

@WALTERBROADDUS 4 года назад

Today's camo makes even less sense.

@dougearnest7590 4 года назад

@@WALTERBROADDUS -- Dept of Defense: "To save money, all the services will wear the same working uniform." Each service: "Okay, but ours needs to be unique in some way."

@saltymonke3682 4 года назад

*Blueberry camo wants to know your location*

@BangFarang1 4 года назад

As a native Frenchman, I can tell you that the French generic word for hats, caps, beanies, berets, etc... is "couvre-chef" (head cover). As the military has several kinds of headgear, they officially use that generic word in their written regulations. That's probably, in my opinion, the origin of the use of "cover" by the US military.

@shawngilliland243 2 года назад

@ Frederic Letellier - merci!

@razter6678 4 года назад

Your passion and enthusiasm for history is wonderful and makes me smile. Keep being you.

@travel734 4 года назад

As a young seaman in Canada we wore a common "work dress" with the army and Air Force. This consisted of rifle-green work trousers; a zippered rifle-green work jacket; a "lagoon green" work shirt; and beret or ball cap. This work dress made us virtually indistinguishable from gas station attendants. It was definitely not an aide to recruitment. In 1986 it was changed, in part because of lessons learned from our Royal Navy colleagues in the Falklands War. The poly material would melt and fuse with skin under the extreme heat of fires and provided little protection from cold when wet. The replacement uniform was made from Nomex (like race car drivers) and protected from fire.

@RANDALLBRIGGS 4 года назад

I spent 20 years in the U.S. Army and we never called our hats or caps "covers."

@richm7797 4 года назад

Was it because your heads were hard enough you didn’t need a cover? 😉

@HootOwl513 4 года назад

Probably because it was a Naval Service thing, originally. Bleeding over into the Land Branch by Former Marine Drill Instructors taking billets as Drill Sergeants for whatever reasons... New vistas to conquer, change of venue for personal reasons, genuine patriotic motivation to help improve a Brother service? Who can know? Some of the best Marines were prior -service-Army. John Basilone, and Evans Carlson come to mind. Some people put the needs of the Nation above inter-service rivalry. It must be a recent thing, as during my tour in the mid '70s, I did not observe Army personnel refer to headgear as a "Cover''. But I had very little contact with them.

@jhonyermo 3 года назад

Same here.

@brockp59 4 года назад

11:34 Hat's off to JFK!

@jerryw6699 4 года назад

it is so good to see you show no bias towards any of the colors of the uniforms and hats. In this world far to much emphasis is placed upon color.

@bobwright1773 4 года назад

When I was in the US Army, 1956~1959, the term for the billed cap was "Service Cap, Enlisted men's." The cap consisted of the leather bill and stiff frame. "Cover" referred to the khaki (for summer) and olive drab (for winter) cotton or wool covers that were required to make up the completed Service Cap. There was one "frame" with interchangeable covers.

@cliff8669 4 года назад

You do have a great Cover collection. I found out the difference between a hat and a cover while in the first days of Marine Corps Boot Camp. I never forgot the lesson. My collection involves U.S. Navy Ship Zippo lighters. I have three hundred of them, along with some mugs, ashtrays, belt buckles, a handful of ball caps and a load of ship/squadron patches. The oldest zippo is dated 1954. Thank you for the strolls thru history.

@larrymortimer4833 4 года назад

I was a junior officer in the late 60's and in many of the O'clubs if you wore your cover into the bar they would ring a bell and you bought the bar a round. A friend of mine made that mistake, realized he couldn't cover the tab, ran out the door into the jungle, was chased but got away. Thanks for the info HG.

@pauledhlund4350 4 года назад

I really enjoyed that! Perhaps an idea for an episode for you is the “Brown shoe Navy” and the “Black shoe Navy” my Dad was a brown shoe guy in Naval Aviation, that might be an interesting story.

@darthcat6337 4 года назад

An episode that's hard to top. I've seen only three in person. Thank you for sharing this History with us.

@richardjensen6753 4 года назад

The little details of history deserve to be remembered too! Thank You! Another great video!!!

@richm7797 4 года назад

Thank you for an interesting, informative episode. As a retired naval aviator I enjoyed your review of the history of Navy Officer uniforms, and our “covers.” As a long-term subscriber, I’ve gotten a lot of enjoyment from well thought out episodes. BZ!

@rogerhwerner6997 4 года назад

I've collected stuff all my long life. Firearms, lostahe stamps, gold and silver coins, historical California photographs, first editions western Americana, books on archaeology, memorabilia from my city, crystals and minerals, in fact anything that's unusual. When I worked in Crimea 25 years ago I bought a Russian Black Sea Fleet cap (belt, and watch too). Such things remind me of my extensive travels but also of subjects that interest me. Some serve as tangible investments.

@wayneleonard6434 2 года назад

Good episode. Thanks. For many years I’ve felt at a loss and that I was confused about naval uniforms and hats or caps in particular. After watching this I now realize it is the Navy that was confused.

@OMCPoker 4 года назад

I think this is one of your best pieces. Thank you.

@stephenwoolley2130 4 года назад

This was fascinating, and my eye was drawn to the slouch hat on the shelf behind you as well!

@gordonbethune 4 года назад

I spent 20 years in the US Navy as an enlisted and CPO, a Warrant officer and a Lieutenant, I retired in 1978. All while serving in various squadrons, ships and in country durning the RVN war. Never, Never would anyone call their hat a cover. That term was a USMC only definition of a hat. We called them hats. Only trash (sh-t)cans and jar heads had covers. Gordon M Bethune, LT, USN ret Really enjoy your show.

@robertthornton1171 4 года назад

My Mother loved to see my Dad in the gray uniform. Dad was in the Navy from 1939 to 1960. He served on the USS California BB-44 and survived the Day of Infamy. He retired a Chief Petty Officer.

@crazybrit-nasafan 4 года назад

Another awesome history lesson, Hat's off to you sir.

@russpapazian1623 4 года назад

In the US Army, we refer to hats as headgear, or cover as like others have said we’re always to have “cover over our heads”, referring to the fact that headgear is only worn outdoors. The wearing of headgear indoors (by Army regulation) is only permitted when a Soldier is under arms. Commonly this applies to Military Police, who while armed on duty, do not remove their headgear while indoors.

@D__Lee 4 года назад

I was in the USAF in the early 70's. We had different uniforms, but my favorite was the khaki. I wore the khaki as my everyday uniform. To my dismay, the USAF discontinued the khaki around 1974. I continued wearing my khaki since I was told they were being phased out and not unofficial. One day the squadron had to go to the parade ground for the retirement of the base commander. I was the only one wearing khakis. My first sergeant told me to leave. I loved wearing the khakis even more.

@Not_The_FBI_1992 4 года назад

Clearfield, Utah! I use to live there! But now I live in Charleston, SC. and I'm currently trying to join the coast guard reserves at the age of 38. Love your channel!