Five Reasons James Bond Might Be the Worst Spy Ever | After Hours 

And the one time he does a good impression Soren calls it bad

Its like Megamind thinking MusicMan (formally MetroMan) had talent despite being awful

@@freezemypath4 I know that happened, but do you recall which impression it was? It wasn't Bond, not Goldblum in ID4, or Clooney.

@@Atamastra The one with the Soren from another dimension. Krang from TMNT.

@@dantebrevity Oh that's right! Good on ya.

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Bond wasn't a "secret agent" anyway. He was an intelligence officer. "Secret agent" was what they called an informant.

Fun fact: Casino Royale (the first-ever Bond book) was inspired by a Yugoslav spy named "Dušan "Duško" Popov" (also worked with the MI6) - you should look that up ;) Oh and the movie "Casino Royale" was not shot in Montenegro, but in the Czhech Republic.

Why can't they make a spy movie that deals with actual spy stuff.

Apparently The Informant! was one and they said that's part of why it wasn't a particularly good movie

Shocking.

Don't forget the, uh... rapey behavior.

thats nothing compared to book bond, archer is a more accurate adaptation then any other vesion of bond ever was

I've never seen any of the Connery films, so that just cracked me up. I imagine him grinning maniacally.

@@Silverwind87 Real life Connery, or...?

Spoiler alert man! Jeez... lol

Nice callback to the batman ep early on

+cory greene But you never know when a James Bond is going to die, so you never really know when you'll need to replace one (except the lucky ones who retire). So, they just always have an womanizer alcoholic agent who probably won't really fit in any role in a secret agency except for the Bond one or they get an agent with a completely different personality and say "well, you should probably get a divorce and now you like Martinis. Good luck being the new 007"? I think this movies are made by a shitload of different people... Some of them abide to "all Bonds are one dude" thing and put some hints on their movies, others like the idea of Bond being a codename and put hints on their movies.

Unless he's a Time Lord....

You didn't just... Did you... _Did you just make a fucking pun?_

I'm laughing so hard! A strong BOND!

Maybe just the George Lazenby and Roger Moore Bonds are the same person and every other Bond is a different person.

Why don't they remove the negative aspects of Bond? If they can brainwash someone then removing the alcoholism is probably a good choice. Make him a little less trusting of the women companions that end to betraying him. If you can change someone's personality to that degree, they could do better than bond

... That must be why they call him BOND... he is literally bonded with every other Bond in the past. *mindblown*

If each Bond knows that he is going to die very soon, then it doesn't matter that he smokes or drinks or womanizes. He can't die of Lung Cancer from smoking, he doesn't live long enough to develop it. He can't die of liver disease from drinking, he doesn't live long enough to develop it. He can't die of STD's from Sex, he doesn't live long enough to develop it. but I agree they should teach him to trust people less, even those closest to him.

sounds like the Bourne program

omg that sounds amazing yet sad at the same time.

Only as recently as 1994 did England acknowledge MI6 actually exists.

Michael Russell Your point? That still means that MI6 was public throughout the whole Brosnan era. PS. It's the UK that acknowledged MI6's existence. England doesn't have a secret service. :)

I'm saying Swaim's point is applicable to most of the Bond movies to date.

What about the codename theory?

Anthony Nunez The codename theory is just dumb. Bond already _has_ a codename. Why would he need two?

None of the James Bonds have necessarily died - they could have retired, changed jobs or been given new identities. Yes, visiting the grave of a colleague's wife is quite likely - especially if the colleagues were friends. The wife of a secret agent might not know his real name, so when she marries him she would take his fake surname. Giving away the real surname would be a security risk.

If Bond was a codename her last name wouldn't be Bond. And Roger Moore wouldn't be mourning her. In fact it would be stupid to even go to her grave.

EXCEPT THAT 007 IS THE FRACKING CODE NAME!!!!

Counterargument... Memory reprogramming. MI6 may just be reprogramming a consistent memory of the former bonds to each new agents to provide a consistent performance for each 007. And the tech isnt really that farfetch seeing the tech available on the Bond Universe. It can explain why each bond still fell for the old Honey Trap maneuver Since each one of them are pre programmed the old faults of the old bond.

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John R And if they use full names as code names, then why are Q and M not given full code names instead of initials. In fact, if 007 is Bond's code, why does he need two of them?

WalterLiddy Rank? Not sure about the Royal Navy, but Commander in the US Navy also has a pay grade code O-5. (Just checked, it's OF-5 in the Royal Navy).

Elle, the 007 was also cribbed from british miilitary. It's the last three numbers of their S/N or whatever number identifies them. 007 may in fact really be 020028220007 for example.

+John R 007 is one of nine "Double-0" agents operating in Europe, according to Thunderball. In Casino Royale it's established that the 00 means you've killed at least two enemy agents. The first is to show you have what it takes to kill a man; the second is to show you can do it again, in cold blood, under orders.

@@CountArtha *shiver*

Dennis Crosby Is he the doctor? 903 years old, the last of his species? Is he killing the last spooder arachnathing

Dennis Crosby He's dead inside

He has to confirm the kill.

So you want to give the license to kill to someone who recoils from death. Well that's a way to go.

@@nooctip He's a sociopath. They make the best assassins, so I agree with you. Lol

And keeping up with the James Bond cover. The world would know that his wife died because of the obituary in the newspaper, but it wouldn't know Bond's face.

Or the new bond could have known the last 007's wife (i forgot her name, forgive me) and done it for revenge.

***** Tracy. Contessa Theresa somethingorother.

the 00 gives the agent a license to kill. The designations don't mean that they have a different skill set.

that makes sense

riedstep Especially if it's like Jason Borne, when part of their training is to fuck with your brain. MI6 could be making the same guy over and over just by making him remember key things relevant to their mission.

riedstep If I remember correctly in the last Bond movie they confirmed this theory. Also Soren said PP9, Bond's most famous for his use of the PPK--not pp9, he did use a p99 in Casino Royale and a few of the other new ones but then in the last one it got replaced by the inferior ppk again.

So, if bond uses the Walter PPK but there are different bonds, why do they all use the same gun? You'd think that individual Bonds would use the gun most suited to him. And why would they all drink the same drink? You'd think maybe one bond would want a Heineken, rather than a martini.

Takuku Zumoritoarimoto Jeffrey archer? What's he got to do with anything?

Sterling Mallory archer

propably because archer is a much closer adaptation of book bond then any of the movie bonds could ever be

@@tommerker8063 then what?

@@chmchn whats your question?or are you merely trying to point out an orthographical error in the most confusing way possible?

Omg that's hilarious. He totally does

Chesterson Jack Right? 😀

no shit.

Reaveras Vaer :( Aww, that's not nice.

Soren's internal dialogue: 1st take "huh..." 2nd take "wait...what?" 3rd take "What the..." segue to external dialogue :)

I know this is hella late, but thankyou. I always figured the "other feller" was a reference to another 00 officer...maybe 002 or 004. And I never got the Bourne reference either. Unless the movies or some fan fiction retconned it, it was never a "code name." Of course, Bond was never a secret agent anyway. He was an intelligence officer - "secret agent" is the British term for an informant.

It even has James Bond underneath Teresa Bond.

***** Could be senior. Or different middle names (for argument's sake).

Joe Whitman, Thank you for pointing out my mistake. I did honestly miss that small detail due to watching on a small screen at night.

That makes no sense lol

We'll just think about in a brother in arms perspective your comrade has just died but he can't be known to have died in a blaze of glory because if the enemy knew Bonds died like flys then there would be a shit ton of James Bond movies so as I said instead of paying respects to a fallen brother you instead give it to the next closest thing(their wives) so they can still keep up the idea that no bond died from bullet holes or other such death but instead die from old age kinda like the spartan 2's from halo they never go KIA just MIA so pretty much to sum it up this new bond is paying respects to a fallen ally by giving flowers to his wife

Jajajaja... I just imagined some kind of villain Facebook or something where they put statuses up like "My plans were foiled... by James Bond! #fuckbondjamesbond"

Anthony Sforza All those big criminals members of Facebook group "Elite villains of the world"? Not to that extent, points for the idea though, but even in Fleming´s time, there must have been real possibility of word spreading around. He did not kill every character. There must have been one meaningless criminal, who escaped and worked for another. Didn´t your boss ask you during interview, why you lost your previous job?

tsevca Actually, asking that is somewhat illegal. Like when they call your former employer, they can't ask why they fired you. Pretty much only whether what you'd put on the resume was true and you were employed there. Which is why it's so hard to pin down those hospital serial killers, because the hospitals fire them instead of bringing in the police... then they move on to another one. Digressions aside, I totally get what you're saying and often wondered that myself. Like with undercover cops. One person from an operation is going to be free to move on to another organization and then eventually said cop is going to be found out, like "Hey... Carlo, can we talk a minute?" I mean, I guess Scarface addressed that, but still. Or, like when they're testifying at a trial for someone they've brought down. How the fuck is NOBODY in any of those court galleries not going to recognize the guy that put their cousin or some shit away, when he's trying to infiltrate an organization they're a part of? I suppose A Scanner Darkly found a way around that, though it's not realistic up to this point in time. Anyhow, I can understand maybe the FBI or something, but with city cops, there's only a finite amount of criminal gangs or organizations in which to infiltrate... there has to be some overlap somewhere.

Anthony Sforza That depends on the country. It isn´t in mine. I get what you mean, but those undercover cops use different identities. Bond always introduces himself as James Bond. He doesn´t even try to blend in.

tsevca Truth be told, ever since I was a kid, I thought "James Bond" was his fake identity. Though yes, I get the identity parts, but what about faces. That's kind of more what I was referring to. Like I remember watching the Miami Vice movie where they're all walking around the hospital with badges around their necks and thinking that was fucking idiotic. What if someone was in their with someone else because of a gunshot wound or something, then recognizes them a couple weeks later... from when he saw them walking around with a badge around their necks. Sure, it may have worked in the show back in the 80s where they take down a different small time dealer every week, but now the stakes are higher and the operations are deeper, they're bound to run into somebody that would recognize them.

Verrry interesting... Though admittedly, I remember sitting in the theatre watching Skyfall and thinking "Is this a reboot of the reboot?" It just didn't fit the previous two for me. Good movie on it's own or as the prelude to Spectre... but as a sequel to Quantum of Solace, not so much. Also, the whole "Let's make Daniel Craig into Sean Connery" aspect really wasn't on my list of awesome things, either.

I Had the same theory it makes so much since giving a agent a made up life to protect his real family and friends and also giving each agent certain characteristics like having a martini shaken not stir so he seems more of a real person.

haltopen12 very very clever I'm not talking about your comment but your profile picture

Add to this the idea that all Bonds feel a bond of brotherhood with their predecessors to explain that one Bond grieving and avenging the previous Bond's bride and all the holes are filled.

Daniel Craig is the original, if you will allow suspension of belief and accept it. Even though it has much more modern technology compared to the others, Casino Royale is actually the first in the series. That way your theory can still work, he can be the original 'real' Bond and all the others can come after him.

Or Daniel Craig is og James Bond's son. It explains the car and the manor and Judi Dench doesn't exactly seem like she would want to keep the James Bond tradition alive were that not literally his family name.

thatdapperfellow good one

TheSwiftGlitch except for the fact that all the others are set before Craig.

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Yes, yes, yes.

Ok what regeneration is he on?(sorry I don't keep track)

Excellent.

Okay! Here it is! James Bond is not only a Time Lord, but... he's actually Rassilon!

So's Bruce Wayne

Well, he is british, so it would make sense.

So what is the purpose of the 007?

John R A spy needs a fake name to go by on. So they use 'James Bond' for every 007. I'm sure they do the same thing with each 00.

There are two 006's mentioned in the bond lore. One is Jck Giddings. The other is Alec Trevalyan. Meaning, when one 00 agent dies or retires another person takes on the number. They are not all assigned both the code number and then also given the same code name.

John R Or they used different codenames, because these there too eye-catching and the idea of this strange janitor guy, who stumbled into the conference room and wasn't even supposed to be there in the first place, but kinda hung around and everyone thought he made good points so they took his name choices only to realize that, other than James Bond, Trevalyan and Giddings aren't that common nor easy to forget.

kissarmy1979 you watched Skyfall right? His parents' name are Bond (on the gravestone), the old guy called him James.

It could even be just a book of reports that 007 only shares with other 007's in a safe house that only 007's or even just 00 agents in general know of.

Also it could be a principle thing. Like don't mess with the Bonds, or you will free-fall until death. also ^ this needs more likes

Ok, so we go from Sean Connery to George Lazenby and then Sean comes back from The dead for Diamonds are Forever... What really happened is that they didn't want to reboot after From a View To A Kill (in the 80's rebooting a franchise probably wasn't usual) and chose a much younger actor for The Living Daylights (Timothy Dalton) when Bond should be in his sixties (he even meet a former Felix Leiter from Live and Let Die, he told his wife that James was once married but his wife died). Then the cold war was over and they felt that James Bond was not necessary anymore, but the series made shitloads of money and they came back with Brosnan. He would be a 70 years old man and that wouldn't make any sense, so they made it a non-declared reboot as the whole cast was new except for Desmond Llewelyn (Q) (then even changed the new Moneypenny!). Die Another Day sucked so they openly rebooted the franchise. You see, James Bond is like a comic book character, he is portrayed in different ways but he is always the same guy, like Batman. If Ian Fleming wrote some kind of ending to the Bond series before he died the character wouldn't be so misterious about his past.

big Indeed, however we were not discussing the actual events. But rather how the concept of agent 007 would work under the rules argued for in this video. Thank you for the knowledgeable input though. :)

Yes. While big makes a very good point, the video discusses 007 as a concept. If somebody attacks or hurts that concept in a way that would dishonor those serving or representing that symbol, then those who were sleighted would naturally seek some form of retribution.

what about when he went back to his house he grew up in in skyfall and the grounds keeper recognized his as james bond, the name he had known him by since he was a child, if your theory is correct it would mean that the origional name of craigs bond is james bond, the same as his 'codename'

The Random Mapper ah.... yesss.... exactly! :D

I read this comment right as a heard her say it!

The Random Mapper "Like Jason Bourne".

Ashtrooper20 What's "a heard her say it"?

OLBICHL i ment to say right as I heard her say it, i hope this was a joke cause if you didnt get that.....

Bella Ranstead It's a nice theory. Love your profile picture, by the way. Ten and Nine are awesome. :)

thanks :-)

i was about to say that before i read your comment

srry

lol it's ok, you got to it first.

This is the theory I never knew I needed!

+Nathan L And each "Bond girl" is a new companion!

Oh my god... It's so obvious... How did I not see it before...

+Nathan L Do you know what you've done...? Oh my gosh, that's amazing! WHAT IF MOFFAT FINDS THIS AND MAKES A CROSSOVER HAPPEN!?!

thank God Moffat was canned

The 007 chronicles all seem too small scale for the doctor. Also the doctor isnt know for stopping humans from hurting humans. He is more about preventing other aliens from fing us up. Its like he wants to watch us kill ourselves and doesnt want anyone else messing up his favorite tv program

+Deebo Molina OOOooooo! There's an idea! Each movie is just a story someone heard about James Bond, and so each one is different because of the way the story is told, and THAT'S why the Bonds all look different. Someone could just say "He was Charming and Handsome", so the storyteller has a different mental image each time!

@@InescapablePain How do you explain the parts that he was alone?

+Peterson Silva Sortie? Katren? lol

Samur/Aye Studios Sortie sure sounds nice! hehehe

Peterson Silva would accurately describe their relationship too... Sortie: an attack made by troops coming out from a position of defence.

Samur/Aye Studios Awesome! xD

I think so lol

I agree, great American agent

YESSSS... But isn't he batman

+Sarah Dabban Nah..he is Red Hood.

sooooo jensen ackles

sooooo jensen ackles

had not thought of this, good job mister dragon

What books?

What Fleming books say that ? What titles.I read all of them in high school and reread 3 or 4 in the last few years and that is not in them.

J Gillies thank u

If they use Idris Elba (huge fan, totally support that idea) they could actually use the 'James Bond, 007 as a code name' theory legitimately. Seriously, the first scene with Ralph Fiennes and Idris Elba would go like this: M: So how are you fitting in? 007: Pretty good. Did the last guy ever nail that hot receptionist?

MutteringCondolences Isn't Moneypenny a black field agent now?

AllCanadiaReject She was a field agent in the opening of Skyfall, but if memory serves she voluntarily removed herself from fieldwork after accidentally shooting Bond, and is now M's personal assistant/secretary.

MutteringCondolences Okay. I've only seen Skyfall once.

AllCanadiaReject How can you say in the novels it was always the same guy? It was Ian Fleming himself who first suggested that it was a code name passed from agent to agent and not a real name.

Exactly.

Then why does he drive cars if he presemeebly had a tarsus to get to earth on

Tardis(autocorrect sucks)

The Tardis can take different shaped and the third doc had Bessie.

His title can be the Agent

Another excellent point, alternatively see @Jark Wimbley

Perhaps the Lazenby Bond is the same character as the Moore Bond, but all or most of the other Bonds are different.

What's wrong with deciding to use a nuclear bomb on the entire NYC to fight aliens, have your enemy inside your ranks the whole time without anyone noticing, send people who are a threat to save the world and then blame them for being threats? S.H.I.E.L.D sounds like the BEST spy agency ever

And that's just the movie version of S.H.I.E.L.D, the actual comic book version has an even longer list of what's wrong with them.

I don't think the character limit is long enough for me to list it

The character limit for every youtuber on the planet isn't long enough for listing Shield sins.

Actionfan19 clearly you don’t remember WOOHP from Totally Spies

I've never seen one of Tamahora's films, so I don't know if they're all bad or something, but even if that's the case, even bad directors/writers have the occasional good idea. Hell, a lot of bad stories have really cool or interesting ideas and it's just the execution that makes them bad (see David Cage and his games as an example).

Paul Walsh The only Bond film he directed was so bad that the producers had to reboot the Franchise, and the producers thought it was so bad the vetoed it. Keep in mind they let him have a villain dressed up like Iron Man, an invisible car, Hallie Berry, a man with diamonds in his face, Madonna;s awful song and cameo and a Korean that turns himself white. And they let the writers write the following lines "Mr Bond's been explaining to me his big bang theory" Hallie Berry: "Yeah I think I got the thrust of it". And Henchmen:"I'm Mr Kill" 007: "Well there's a name to die for". And Gustav Graves speaking in bumper stickers the whole time. So when they all that pass and so much more, but not the code name thing, you know its a bad idea.

walter byrd I suspect that on every Bond mission he's just there as the unwitting decoy while MI6's real agent does the job. (For instance, in Casino Royale, Bond is there to divert attention from the dealer, who's the actual secret agent. In The Spy Who Loved Me, the KGB has several agents scattered throughout the henchmen. In Goldfinger, the economists came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter if a bomb goes off in Fort Knox.)

cOmAtOrAn Great theory! Never thought of that.

walter byrd Thanks! It's not the most fun theory ever, but it's the only one I can think of which explains why M tolerates his incredibly nonprofessional behavior.

cOmAtOrAn Maybe he/ she tolerates bond because he's the only one who ever comes back, the only times we see another 00 is when they're either dying or (in the case of Sean Bean/ Alex Drevelian in Goldeneye) betraying MI6. James Bond is the one who manages to do the job AND come back.

walter byrd No shit, that's why it's fiction. We all love the idea of a badass who can just stroll in, announce directly to his enemies exactly who he is, hand them a few live hand grenades and walk out without looking at the explosion like a badass. Would that make a good spy in the real world? Of course not, don't be stupid.

This would also explain the mourning scene that they mentioned. It's similar to how many of the Doctors make mention of their children or experience with them (Nine saying he knows what it's like to be father and grandfather, Ten coming right out and saying he used to be a father, and Eleven knowing the difference between crying loudly and crying silently.).

BadPeople1100: Max Max is just Time Lord Bond in the future.

Mauricio Franco 😂😂😂😂

Some say he was actually an "Alchemist", but What is truly "an alchemist", if not "a man somewhat knowledgeable in many sciences and whom can combine their knowledge of different fields to do things ununderstandable by the common peoples" Something like Dee, just as well as Bond... After all, "any science advanced enough will look as magick to the common peoples" Go back to the middle ages with an Iphone, and "providing you can find a way to recharge it (solar battery, whatever)", peoples would think that you are a sorcerer able to trap the "souls" of both "things" and "peoples" when you just "take a picture"... and you'd be burned at the stake... :-(

What about the multiple Bonds having the Bond Family Motto of "The World is Not Enough"? Do they just adopt the family motto with the name? I guess that makes sense. But, then there's Skyfall, the Bond family home where Daniel Craig's Bond clearly grew up. Is it just a coincidence that this current "James Bond" is actually a member of the real Bond family?

TJForceIX That was the one thing I didn't like about Skyfall, they killed my favorite fan theory.

TJForceIX What if the "real" Bond family was just a cleverly concealed training program for future agents. Thus he could have been adopted into the family as early as birth, especially plausable if the parents were MI6 agents themselves.

ReaperDethScythe The code-name theory doesnt make sense. Firstly, the openning scene of GoldenEye starring Pierce Brosnan is set in 1986. This, according to the code-name theory, meant that it went from Moore Bond, Brosnan Bond, Dalton Bond then back to Brosnan Bond. How could Brosnans Bond be brought back from the dead? Secondly, one of the major points in favour of the codename theory is that we have the same M character for Brosnan (while he is 007) and for Craig (while he BECOMES 007). This apparently proves that Craig is under the process of becomming known as the 'James Bond' after Brosnans Bond is supposedly killed. However, after Skyfall, we can see that Judi Dench in fact plays TWO different M characters. Raoul Silva in Skyfall refers to her being in station and in charge of Hong Kong Operations whilst it was being transferred to China, which would mean she was their in 1998-99. However, this is exactly when the Brosnan Bonds are set, therefor proving that BROSNAN AND CRAIG ARE IN A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE!

Right on the money. "Your reputation proceeds you" is dangerous in any situation. A SECRET AGENT should not ever hear it.

Teresa is a code name for Tracy.

becuz he can

Will Fredeick but what is it?

Halla Assata I think it's popcorn

This comment is a train wreck

Grant Lee me too, but i had to watch the beginning a few times to be sure

He carries a PP9 in the Gamecube game Nightfire.

gmann215 I thought it was a P99...

oh wait, it was a PP7, though the P99 does appear in the multiplayer

ppk indeed.

tskwared667 Yes, I know it's scripted and acted, but maybe in excitement put together PPK 9mm?

Unless as I mentioned in response to another comment on this video, the entire childhood is staged as a training program in order to create the perfect replacement for dead 007 agents.

The same back story, every time? It's easy to change it up. "My parents died in a fire", "my parents died in a car accident", "my parents died in a freak explosion since their scientists". Also, may I add, After Hours forgot one of the most popular aspects of the spy genre of why it's a different looking Bond every time, and I think it's a great theory of why it's the same Bond. Face transplant... Think about it: Mission Impossible, Face/Off, and a bunch of other movies and TV shows use this trope. There must be guys Bond has faced that are still alive, who know what he looks like but don't know his name, so every now and then, he gets his face changed. If Q is able to build some of things he has for Bond, like a working jet pack or a submarine car, the technology in that universe has to exist for Bond to get a face transplant.

Mak Manto In the original script for On Her Majesty's Secret Service, it had a scene where James Bond was undergoing plastic surgery, but this was cut because the producers thought it would be boring for every new Bond to go under the same process

See? Same Bond, different face. I can also add that since he's a spy who has to go undercover a lot of times, he can probably change his voice pretty easily.

Mak Manto Ah, but going towards my "Bond is a Time Lord" theory, what if the "parents died in a climbing accident" backstory is just a cover story to hide his Time Lord past?

It's also Teresa on the grave not Tracy

Not to mention Ian flemming came up with the title 007 after staying in a hotel the room he was in was room 1007 the 1 had fallen off so he came up with the idea for a secret agent designated 007

Well, yeah, that's the obvious answer, but it's also no fun.

I personally think that "James Bond" was actually a cover - he is pretending to be an Orothologist (expert on birds) named James Bond.

Leo Nielson nope not a cover

houseofaction Of course, it might not be a cover - James Bond may be his real name, and he just pretends to be the ornithologist James Bond as part of his cover.

illiniguy399 pp9 is the name used for the Walther PPK in the goldeneye game. So far, the P38 and PPK are the two most used Bond pistols.