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FIX & FLIP Toro Recycler with Tecumseh Engine - Design Flaws and Engineering Gaffes

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I bought this mower on Marketplace for $40 as a potential fix and flip project. In the course of repairing the mower I stumbled upon a couple flaws in design - one with the Tecumseh made 6.5HP GTS engine.
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@lawrencecarroll2031 11 месяцев назад

When working on a Tecumseh engine; I usually take the muffler and the intake manifold off, 4 bolts total. Makes getting at the carb a lot easier. Good video.

@mikehrdlicka8635 11 месяцев назад

I take top cover and muffler off. The 2 carburetor bolts remove nuts carburetor side leave the bolts in remove carburetor

@andyhamilton8940 11 месяцев назад

The red straw looking object is the air Venturi for the primer👍

@andyhamilton8940 11 месяцев назад

The head bolt hole is where the muffler gaurd mounted but it’s missing.

@Richard-gn6hw 2 месяца назад

You sure cause my man thinks it's an (oil Drain).... right next to the sparkinator....lol.

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

This is the OG at Eliminator Performance in Canada. Just caught your channel and want to say well done. Appears you have the Techumseh engine on this Toro which is a very good engine when properly maintained. You even showed how hard it is to start these mowers with that personal pace system, i personally hate them give me a Snapper all day with the adjustable speed control and the friction wheel drive which i use as my own mower. Will check out the rest of your videos keep up the good work.

@Fixologist1 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the kind words. I subbed your channel.

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

@@Fixologist1Thanks actually Eliminator Performance is my son Jake's Company and channel i am just the OG at EP

@ytmadpoo Месяц назад

I have this same mower and it's pretty reliable. It developed a "ticking" noise so I got all ready to adjust the valve clearances only to discover it's a Tecumseh engine and it doesn't quite work the same as an OHV (is it called "side valve" ? whatever the case, it's different). Other than that, if I ignore the ticking, it still runs and pulls on the first start if I remember to use the primer bulb 5'ish times when cold starting. But I've never had an issue with the speed of it. Maybe there's a learning curve, but it goes as fast or slow as I need. If I'm pushing more to go uphill, that's compensated by the fact that it slows down on hills anyway so it seems to work out okay for me. :) All that said, when this one dies I'll probably look at something else, just because it does have its quirks, like the user unfriendliness of the maintenance for an amateur like myself.

@waynestefinashen239 Месяц назад

@@ytmadpoo These engines last a very long time compared to what is being sold today. Anyone buying a new mower is foolish since a reputable repair shop or flipper will have some excellent equipment fully serviced for 1/3 the new cost.

@mjg263 11 месяцев назад

People who aren’t familiar with Toro’s awesome Personal Pace drive system often make the mistake of pushing down on the handle which makes the drive run at full speed. What you’re supposed to do is hold on to the handle and simply walk at your own speed without pumping your arms and pushing down on the handle. That way the mower matches your speed and mowing is effortless. It’s a very good system, best in the business IMO.

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

Problems come up when you need to climb a hilly section on the lawn it is hard not to push down too far, do you agree?

@mjg263 11 месяцев назад

@@waynestefinashen239 yes, I can see how steep hills could definitely be a problem. A situation like that would be ideal for a Husqvarna AWD mower with the Easy Walk style system that AYP uses or a Honda Smart Drive type.

@robertknight4672 5 месяцев назад

I've seen the Toro snowmaster with the personal pace now I've always wondered how that works on those when you run into some hard or snow. I was thinking in that case there would be a tendency to push harder even though you're not trying to.

@andyhamilton8940 11 месяцев назад

I always take pix of that damn throttle/ gov linkage of those Texumsehs

@michaelbennett1883 11 месяцев назад

When I was a kid I had a tecumseh on a go cart. I spent more time working on it a pulling the rope than I did rideing it. I sold that engine for scrap and got a harbor fart engine. Best 125 I ever spent 😂

@richardromanyshyn608 11 месяцев назад

We had an old toro growing up and I got it going years later after it had quit running. If you hit a big enough rock, the stepped flywheel key would twist and throw the timing off enough to make it not run. Design flaw or safety feature? Helping a buddy mow as a kid I hit a piece of iron in the grass and bent the crank, made it vibrate. Slo blo stepped flywheel keys

@SteveHacker 11 месяцев назад

These videos always make my days/nights… 😊😊😊

@bobcook8576 11 месяцев назад

The drive system works as intended. Did you check the belt and or replace it. You can adjust the cable that tightens the belt drive. The rear wheels probably need to be serviced. There are keyways and small springs that neeed to be cleaned in the wheel drive axle. While the briggs powered recycler seems robust I personally use the same model you have and really enjoy it.

@jacobdowler1 11 месяцев назад

The Lawnmower Man!

@raymyhill2 11 месяцев назад

Brad you have great water pressure at your place.

@williambray7784 22 дня назад

That threaded hole is for a heat shield (guard).

@ZombiedustXXX 11 месяцев назад

Hey Brad, great fix! I have a 24 year old Sears mower with a Tecumseh like that on it. It hasn't given me lick of problems until this season, where it now smells like raw gasoline until the tank slooowly drains. I'll just keep it outside under a patio until fall. It might just need a new bowl gasket. My mower has never sputtered by lifting the front off the ground. The way I make the engine easier to start (and hands-free at idle) is by wrapping a Velcro strap cable organizer around the top-handle/kill-lever. You might need a longer length of that type of Velcro strip with that bulkier handle.

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

Zombie i would check the oil level to ensure the needle valve is properly seating and you are not flooding the crankcase with fuel. If the intake goes upwards into the cylinder from the carb this will not happen but you should see fuel in the air filter then and not in the crankcase. It only takes a small piece of dirt to cause this to happen.

@ZombiedustXXX 11 месяцев назад

@@waynestefinashen239 Thank you. I will check that out.👍

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

These Techumseh carbs are easy to clean and you may need to replace the rubber seat but the rebuild kits are relatively cheap. RU-vid has some excellent videos of carb cleaning these carbs but take pics so you get all the linkage in the proper holes prior to disassembly. Remove the intake from the cylinder head it is the easiest way to get the carb off.@@ZombiedustXXX

@ZombiedustXXX 11 месяцев назад

@@waynestefinashen239 Thanks again!

@Mike-anic 16 дней назад

I've had a lot of fun working on these old Tecumseh engines. They're actually pretty good engines, but the issue was they were cheap, and into the early 2000s, their quality went to poop.. But that LV195EA is a sweet engine. They used it on the Lawnboys.. The carb is always the weak point on these engines, and gum up easily. Edit: People also were poor at maintaining them

@nevillegoddard4966 11 месяцев назад

Hi Brad! Nice job mate. I would have liked to have seen a close-to-the-ground, perspective shot of the section you mowed, like a good stickybeak at a haircut! Especially since it's nice underneath, you could fill up a cooking oil sprayer with a 50 - 50 mix of kerosine & chainsaw chain & bar oil, & give it all a spray under there & on the blades. Not only is this a good rust preventative but the grass doesn't stick to the metal. The chainsaw oil smells a bit 'sulphurish' like gear oil, but it's sticky as buggery! Probly spray it under your car too with a spraygun.

@Fixologist1 11 месяцев назад

Great suggestion. I’ll try to remember to do that in future videos.

@daviddavis8309 11 месяцев назад

Cool channel Brad!!! See you at the goodwill's😅

@hairycat6095 11 месяцев назад

it is just amazing what people throw out. i have been getting stuff off the curb for many years, it is unbelievable what people throw out. then i kind of laugh and kind of OMG seeing what the hardware store is trying to sell. push or walk behind ? $500 to $800 for electric mowers about that size. get a nice one off the curb spend maybe $10 or $20 to get it going. if you pick a bad one don't worry, somebody else is going to throw one out. Brad got his to look like brand new.. they put too many safety devices for me.

@snoopysrc 11 месяцев назад

I've trash picked two mowers last week

@brentstewart59 11 месяцев назад

You all just watched him cut his grass Lol Get a wood chipper up and running for those damned Mesa Boogie amps lol

@RJ-bn5uw 11 месяцев назад

If it won't start and there is fuel , remove that carb float bowl . Engineers changed that bowl mount bolt to a jet - so the lowest point in the fuel system that usually collects all the dirt , now fouls the engine . There is a special place in hell for those types of people .

@geraldharris6277 27 дней назад

I am now at approximately 34 minutes 15 seconds into your video can you talk about design flaws in your pressing on the plastic handle when you're going trying to start it well that's what the metal bar handle is for when you're pulling to start it hold on to the metal part of the handle not the drive part😊😊

@robertclarkguitar 11 месяцев назад

Keep it up man. I absorb this stuff. I have fixed 3 mowers this summers by each actually being the plastic Jet. All those toros. With Briggs and stratton newer auto chokes usually this is the issue as you also found earlier. Hahah. Good for us but bad for those buying the poor design. I just got to where i can oull them and clean in 15 minutes or less now...lol.

@kevinsands6769 11 месяцев назад

These are the best engines. I've been doing this for years and I've never had a techumseh carb I couldn't get to come around. The motors are powerful and the way the oiling system works makes them long lasting. When taking hr carb off, just remove the muffler. Use a long extension on your driver to reach and a long hemostat to hold the nut. Put it back on the same way. It's not as easy as a Briggs but not bad. I can take it off, clean and put it back in under 15 minutes. I hate these drive systems. The cheap plastic transmission is prone to failure. I have 10 mowers right now and 8 of them are Toro personal pace with bad transmissions. I just remove them and make good push mowers.

@bretthibbs6083 11 месяцев назад

Holy cow my family and I used to live in Crestwood Brad back in the 70's I was about a year old or 2 at the time but I do remember a little from back then at my house. good job on getting that Tecumseh engine running right cause I had one a little over 20 years ago and I could never get it to run right and even brand new I followed the instructions to the t and it took me almost an hour to get the darn thing to start and right about the time I was going to return it it fired up. I also had to replace the carb on it 20 years ago and it never ran right after and it was an oem carb so I went out and bought a new mower with a briggs on it and never had a problem.

@snoopysrc 11 месяцев назад

Nice mower

@billdeblaey6078 Месяц назад

How about checking the oil level before trying to start it??😊

@geraldharris6277 27 дней назад

My first instinct is that they dumped it on that side to dump the gasoline out of it

@mudzy9820 3 месяца назад

i just got one exact same, bought new carby off ebay and it idles fine but just bogs down in thicker grass in conjunction with the self propell. Spark plug is clean, needs an oil change but i cant think what else would cause it to bog down under load. compression feels fine

@mudzy9820 3 месяца назад

i may have to rebuild the carby to check it out

@mwand89 11 месяцев назад

They discontinued manufacturing Tecumseh engines in 2008.

@Fixologist1 11 месяцев назад

I know. Sad.

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

Always a great engine especially on snowblowers they run forever when properly maintained. Have not seen one with a broken connecting rod like the B&S, Kohler etc.

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

Great buy for this mower fully serviced around here easy $200 sell

@Fixologist1 11 месяцев назад

Where you located?

@waynestefinashen239 11 месяцев назад

Port Colborne, Ontario, Canada just along the shores of Lake Erie@@Fixologist1

@waynestefinashen239 Месяц назад

@@Fixologist1 Port Colborne Ontario not far from the shore of Lake Erie and only a few blocks from the Welland Canal, nice and cool here during the summer due to the breeze off the lake very nice.

@DemePoole 6 дней назад

Just remove the muffler to get easy access to the bolt on the engine side of the carb.

@btonegro6608 3 месяца назад

Is easier to remove the exhaust if you need to remove the carburetor.

@peterdavies5358 11 месяцев назад

Hey Brad, where do you get your countdown numbers from? In fact, I'd like a bit of info about all your interstitials and titular intros, that's plainly an excuse to use a funny word. I seem to remember one based on a Universal, perhaps a London Weekend Television, anyhow, I'm sure you know the stuff, just how do you do it?

@brianwheeler3861 2 месяца назад

Take muffler off will be easier to get carb off

@tntreviews3602 5 месяцев назад

that is the werst mower i have ever work on

@ChrisRJ 3 месяца назад

@demcomp 16 дней назад

A Tecumseh ... Just do the easy thing, take the engine off, replace with a 6HP Briggs Quantum, or a Honda GSV190, now you're happy.

@johnnylong8259 11 месяцев назад

If you don’t walk so fast it won’t go to fast.

@jimmyjoe2311 11 месяцев назад

It’s a Tecumseh engine.

@1999Dorito 9 месяцев назад

the title did indicate that yes

@chrisadrian5404 Месяц назад

From a RN....please wear disposable gloves when working with petrobased chemicals!!!

@charlesmisiak4926 2 дня назад

Not a Toro engine. Toro doesn't manufacture engines.

@frankie7508 2 месяца назад

Don't waste your time with the video.Because the guy does not know what he's doing. A tail tail sign is the fact that he doesn't know that the engine may not have a drain Plug at off for where the drain plug would be. It just doesn't have enough experience or knowledge.