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Fixing an Atari 65XE That Has LOST its Colour! Retrocomputer Repair! 

Mark Fixes Stuff
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@richards7909
@richards7909 Год назад
Mark’s got a bag of crystal. Terry and Dave will be seeing lots of colour shortly….
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I’m the Walter White of Retro.
@richards7909
@richards7909 Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff I’m not sure Terry and Dave could cope with you emerging in a pair of tightly whities…
@christostentes3199
@christostentes3199 11 месяцев назад
@TheDarkHour684
@TheDarkHour684 2 месяца назад
Some say he's the cat's meow. Others say he fixes stuff. Legend has it that his hair mutated into its own identity and is working in Stoke-on-Trent as a taxi driver. Women want him, men want to be him. We call him simply Mark.
@retrojb101
@retrojb101 Год назад
Another machine lives to fight another day. Great content as always Mark! 👍
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Thanks mate!!!!
@desiv1170
@desiv1170 Год назад
"It has no colour, which makes games a sad affair..." ZX81:
@chrisrobson8540
@chrisrobson8540 Год назад
must be the fishy dead cap smell thats attracting the cats
@Chriva
@Chriva Год назад
I'd check if that thick pad under the crystal is ground and solder the thing to the board. Free floating crystals is a big no-no because they usually end up exactly like the one you replaced. At least put a double-sided pad between it and the board :)
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Funny you should say that, because I have put a double sided sticky pad on the shopping list for when I finally get around to cleaning it up. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. It’s really helpful!
@coyote_den
@coyote_den Год назад
The original crystal had a heat-shrink Atari label on it, so it wasn't soldered down. Probably why it cracked.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Entirely possible.
@TEBLify
@TEBLify Год назад
That's a nicee and easy fix, wish they all were like that. I got an 800XL that had the wrong colours, had to rebuild that section piece by piece until I found the culprit - a resistor that was reading as open. It wasn't burned or damaged in any way, so I assume the previous owner believed their games were supposed to look like a pink and purple mess 😅
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Reminds me of when I worked with @rmcretro on the CD32 FMV module, and some of the passives had died leaving ONLY the video with a pink tinge. That was fun to scope out!
@MoreFunMakingIt
@MoreFunMakingIt Год назад
Lovely stuff Mark!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Thanks Lee!
@rigues
@rigues Год назад
The industrial design of the 65XE is gorgeous. ❤
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Agreed 💯 %
@vwestlife
@vwestlife Год назад
Make that "its" instead of "it's" -- no apostrophe!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
ARGH!!!!!!! You are right! Nice spot. A butcher's apostrophe!!!! I hate them. I'm blaming the iPad!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Thanks mate! Fixed on this and the Patron Ad Free version. I am so ashamed.
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 Год назад
You could basically just leave the board as is without removing. Removing the crystal is easy, than remove the old solder, next just cut the legs of the new one at the same length, bend them and just solder it in. The solder will go through the entire via. Saves a lot of time and hassle. I have been doing this technique for over a decade, works just fine.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Do you mean solder the new crystal to the legs of the old crystal after cutting it off?
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff no. You add solder to the pads/vias of the old crystal. Pull the crystal in the meantime out. Remove the solder with a solder sucker or wig. Put in new crystal and solder the legs from that same side. The via will flow the solder all the way trough. This technique only doesn't work with single layer PCB's, since they don't use vias. The main reason why I prefer this method is not just only saving time. By not having to remove the whole PCB incl often many other things, there is less risk of breaking things. Especially when they are from plastic that can be brittle. I do the same with other components as well btw. (resistors, ceramics etc)
@keanebgONE
@keanebgONE 6 месяцев назад
That’s seems silly, how do you see how long the legs stick down, you need to clip them so they don’t short on the grounded rf shield.
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 6 месяцев назад
@@keanebgONE you can guess pretty well how long the legs need to be. So there is absolutely no danger of shorting things.
@tharkthax3960
@tharkthax3960 9 месяцев назад
Awesome video! Nice fix. I have a 800xl that has screen going dull then ok again randomly. Maybe similar fault. Psu is outputting 5v and caps are changed and checked for bad solder joints. So this is very helpful! Thanks! Subscribed
@LetsPlayKeldeo
@LetsPlayKeldeo Год назад
I am happy to see that Terry and Dave made it out alive and well from that terrible fire. Onto years of saving Retro nick nacks !
@dingusbingus7463
@dingusbingus7463 Год назад
Im glad to know I'm not the only one scarred for life from that "Pokemon movie"
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I wince at yellow things now…
@fueledbyregret
@fueledbyregret Год назад
Sometimes a shallow screw is all you need to get the job done.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
This was a quick job.
@djm9937
@djm9937 Год назад
Great job, looking forward to the clean up :)
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I’ll come back to it after a few other projects. I also want to try the SIO SD card thing out as well.
@SolderGuy11
@SolderGuy11 5 месяцев назад
Great you found your 8. Whoever offered to send the missing key .. I need an 8. Please!
@mrt.7146
@mrt.7146 Год назад
Thanks for posting the tracklist ... Night Stalker is an awesome tune 🤩
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
A few people started asking me what the music was on my videos. I started listing them all but it was a pain in the harris, then I discovered I could make a public playlist on my Epidemic subscription.
@Omega_Mark
@Omega_Mark Год назад
9:39 Mark, is your power supply all original/stock? I would recommend replacing the caps in it, so your console gets nice and clean power. I would also put a date somewhere inside, so you will know (and one day your kids :) ) when you replaced them.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
It is original unmodded and stock. The psu recap will be another video!
@RonHelton
@RonHelton Год назад
Nice repair, Mark the Cat Lady. LOL I have seen commodore 64s that came across my work bench where people had used too long of a screw. Ouch.
@plan7a
@plan7a Год назад
I'd like to think Terry and Dave are proud to announce there were no leads knocking them over in this video. LOL. Just saying!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
They are good GummyLads
@Eblackadder1982
@Eblackadder1982 Год назад
I just had to do a double take when I realised I have the same monitor/tv for retro stuff.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Ah, but does yours have a Beauty and the Beast DVD jammed in the drive?
@Eblackadder1982
@Eblackadder1982 Год назад
i'll be honest, i didn't even realise it had a dvd drive on the side of it... i will go and check! I doubt it though!@@MarkFixesStuff
@niino4329
@niino4329 Год назад
from what i know, later produced MT DRAMs (e.g. these ones with a datecode of 87) are far more reliable than the earlier ones c.a 83-85
@mickaka
@mickaka Год назад
I come for the repairs, but I stay for the double entendres.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I glad I touch you in some way.
@mickaka
@mickaka Год назад
You always dive deep enough to satisfy.
@TotoGuy-Original
@TotoGuy-Original Год назад
i had one of these when i was a kid in the 90s i remember 2 of my favorite games henry's house and robot knights
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I’ll have to seek those out. I’m always looking for recommendations!
@baxtardboy
@baxtardboy Год назад
Good wee machines, those.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
They really are. Nice cross compatibility too within the range.
@baxtardboy
@baxtardboy Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff Yeah my cousin - RIP - had one. He had an 800XL too. Good memories all round. This is the beauty of youtube and channel's like yours mate. Thank you.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
@@baxtardboy no, thank you for watching 😊
@benbaselet2026
@benbaselet2026 Год назад
You almost got off to a good start... and then at 50 seconds I have to take a break and breathe when I see you manhandling Phillips (or is it JISIS?) screws with a goddamn Pozidriv! 🙂 It's a good idea to glue or otherwise attach those crystals to the board, they don't like vibrations.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Yeah. I know. I wondered who would be triggered first haha!!! I’m revisiting the machine to clean up the board and tidy the install when I upgrade the RAM so don’t worry. I’ll use a tri-wing next time to get you to comment and give me that precious engagement that RU-vid loves. 😉
@TheDarkHour684
@TheDarkHour684 11 месяцев назад
Don't worry, Mark, some people are just on the...uh...ZX Spectrum, if you know what I mean@@MarkFixesStuff
@marky26uk
@marky26uk Год назад
I'm sure that variable resistor on the pcb alters the colour frequency.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I’ve not looked into it but I’ll have a butchers!
@firstsurname9893
@firstsurname9893 Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff It's definitely for color (sic) delay adjustment. If you look carefully you'll notice that there's a hole in the bottom of the case (next to the label) that continues through the shielding and the PCB to the underside of the pot. It's supposed to be used in conjunction with the Production Test Cartridge which, unlike the self-test, includes a video calibration test. If you're interested, grab the ROM from AtariAge and run it from the Uno.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
@@firstsurname9893 super info! Thank you!
@techkev140
@techkev140 Год назад
Really loved the shape of the later Atari machines, they did well to unify the range. My first experienced of it was with the 520STFM, loved that machine, apart from the under keyboard mouse and joystick ports (!...?). AMSTRAD rewired the ZX Spectrum 128K+2 joystick ports so no Atari type joystick would work (£££?). The plot didn't work, rewired joystick extension cables for a few £s solved it. Extender cables then went on to avoid wear and tear on the ST (& Amiga) ports. How do the joystick ports on these XE65 models usually look? Also screws, this 65XE had a fair few of them. Metal screws in plastic, eventually don't key if opened too many times. The ST and Amiga suffered these maladies.
@Hellwyck
@Hellwyck Год назад
Here's Flick The Crystal... Grrrrrreat!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Turtleneck engaged!
@-CrippledNinja-
@-CrippledNinja- Год назад
No need to flick the crystal, when you go hosonic.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Gotta go fast!!
@bzuidgeest
@bzuidgeest Год назад
You could have left the board in and soldered it in and out from the top. It's a two sided board. Would have saved you a minute unless the legs were bent down on the bottom.
@stephenelliott7071
@stephenelliott7071 Год назад
Ah yes, fond memories of Caverns of Mars and Miner2049er (never played the sequel though).
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
The scrolling on CoM is amazing. The sound is meaty too!
@stephenelliott7071
@stephenelliott7071 Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff yes silky smooth, I still play COM from time to time. I've always loved the punchy explosive sounds of the Atari Pokey Chip.
@cyphertheory
@cyphertheory Год назад
I don't remember much about this video, but there was at least a kitten
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
And NO MISTAKES...
@plan7a
@plan7a Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff Or accidents involving Terry and Dave!
@johnDingoFoxVelocity
@johnDingoFoxVelocity Год назад
Max out the ram and replace the bs ram
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
That's the plan! Also going to try out the SD2SIO and fix the crystal down firmly.
@talsingh451
@talsingh451 Год назад
Mark, would you consider doing a video of cleaning ps3 and ps4 remote controllers, to stop driftng?
@GeezerGamesRetro
@GeezerGamesRetro Год назад
How did you know the crystal was at fault? Surely you had to do some troubleshooting beforehand.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Hi Geezer. This was a nice easy fix because the troubleshooting process I followed actually started with the Xtal. In the past I've had issues with Spectrums that have had missing or drifting colour and it's been down to the crystal being duff. Because they are actually quite fragile I check them first as a matter of course. The 4.433618 Mhz Xtal is the part of the circuit that encodes the colour into the composite signal and I was in the process of trying to check the frequency when I had the burst of colour just by touching the leads of the component. That was pretty much an indicator that the crystal was not in a good way and I have a bag of them for the PAL machines I repair. If the Xtal was OK I would have moved backwards through the colour part of the schematic until I found what wasn't working, but sometimes it's a quick fix and a short video like this one.
@PCTS99
@PCTS99 Год назад
6:28 crystal not in right place over the white square on the board. OCD alert!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Haha! I’ll go straighten it when I do the cleaning! Ok?
@DbugII
@DbugII Год назад
I was about to comment that, I searched first if someone else had commented. It's not only OCD though, if it's aligned on the white square, you know it's not going to touch the pads on the left side.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I'll defintiely tidy it up
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames Год назад
Nice easy fix. Well done!
@retrorobbins
@retrorobbins 10 месяцев назад
good video mark
@kmolder9499
@kmolder9499 Год назад
Another!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Another indeed! I’m back to regular programming now!
@TzOk
@TzOk Год назад
PAL (4.433 MHz) crystals are easy to get, much harder is to buy 14.187576 MHz ones...
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Oh yes!!
@Steve_R
@Steve_R Год назад
I clicked on a cat video, and stayed for the Atari content.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Quick!!! Look over there!!!! (Hides mistakes)
@ridiculous_gaming
@ridiculous_gaming Год назад
Greetings, what model Weller desoldering station were you using? Sometimes solder wick is simply not enough.
@oldguy9051
@oldguy9051 Год назад
The desoldering station isn't made by Weller but either a Zhongdi ZD-8915 or a clone of it. Basically, you buy the variant that looks similar or identical and has a 90 watt handpiece. I have a slightly older one (ZD-8925) which has a nice LED temperature readout instead of an LCD but the same handpiece.
@ridiculous_gaming
@ridiculous_gaming Год назад
@@oldguy9051 thank you.
@Mrshoujo
@Mrshoujo Год назад
Bad idea to use the unrepairable Atari power supply potted ingot.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I think I might make a modern one. I think you are right.
@Mrshoujo
@Mrshoujo Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff When it goes bad, it definitively goes bad.
@TzOk
@TzOk Год назад
Crystals don't particularly like such long "legs".
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Yeah. I might revisit the part and also fix it to the board. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
@ToNanOrNotToNull
@ToNanOrNotToNull Год назад
Buttons at the front? Oh dear.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
That's the way I like it and I don't care if I'm weird. I had to ask for them there specifically!
@cinocefalo284
@cinocefalo284 Год назад
Flick the Cristal a psychodelic band
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
🎷🎺🎸🎹💊💊🕺😵‍💫
@CallousCoder
@CallousCoder Год назад
I have not seen it yet not seen the schematic but seeing the luma is there o assume the colour mixer, usually a single transistor is broken. Play the show!!! Edit: wow a crystal!!! I’ve never had one fail on me before. Nice find!
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Good guess but more simple!
@CallousCoder
@CallousCoder Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuffI just saw Mark! A crystal I would’ve never guessed that. I never had one fail on me. Nice find! And I love the pussies in your video 😂
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
@@CallousCoder thanks mate!! I’ve had xtals go in Spectrums so I’m always wary of them if the colour is off.
@CallousCoder
@CallousCoder Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff good to know! It would be one of the last things I’d measure otherwise 😁And for a single quid I will just swap it out if I’d ever have a black and white image before looking at the mixer 😆
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Год назад
@@CallousCoder crystal do occasionally fail, but not a 'common' thing
@davidretrogamesplayedbadly3533
Personally I think Terry and dave are getting a bit big for there boots, reckon it's about time they were took down a peg or two. Never owned or played on any atari, looks like an interesting computer. Nice fix .
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I was just listening to This Week In Retro and you were mentioned!
@davidretrogamesplayedbadly3533
@MarkFixesStuff yes mate, briefly. They covet my hitsquads, Mine mine mine mine 🤣
@plan7a
@plan7a Год назад
They were nearly killed in the previous video (during an industrial accident) where a stray lead almost decapitated them! Just saying!
@DavidKlasinc
@DavidKlasinc Год назад
Is that solder and steel wool holder 3D printed?
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
The holder is. The brass wool cleaner is one of the standard things on Amazon and eBay.
@DavidKlasinc
@DavidKlasinc Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff yeah, I have one like that, just nowhere to put it. Perhaps I have to search for a decent holder on printables. :))
@craiggilchrist4223
@craiggilchrist4223 Год назад
My 65XE shows Colour on my 1084S monitor through composite but my 800XL only shows in B&W. I know some 800XL's need a mod for the Chroma. Do you have a video for that?
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I don't I'm afraid. I don't have an 800XL
@willrobinson7599
@willrobinson7599 Год назад
Great video Mark I've got a speccy 48k that often has green, or purple tint , sometimes it's white . Is the crystal likely to be the fault on that too, its had the simple av mod done rf was a green tint too
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Год назад
is it an issue 2? there notorious for colour tint issues,
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
No! I was expecting a pot tweak, but no such luck. It drifted in and out of colour and yellow tinged B/W!
@willrobinson7599
@willrobinson7599 Год назад
It's a version 6 . I did try turning the little screw on the rf module befire I did the av mod but couldn't get it to go white
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Open it up and with the screen displyed, flick the crystal @@willrobinson7599
@willrobinson7599
@willrobinson7599 Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff thanks Mark. I'll give bit a bash
@Lhawk2107
@Lhawk2107 Год назад
👍
@piconano
@piconano Год назад
Terry and Dave look delicious.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
They are about five years old now so I'd hesitate to eat them...
@piconano
@piconano Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff Do they have younger family members? lol.
@RobA500
@RobA500 Год назад
Bet you wish all fixes where as easy as that.
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
I don’t usually record the simple ones. I thought this would be more complex. I’m now thinking that I should do the smaller fixes too.
@CorporalWobbly
@CorporalWobbly Год назад
What happened to your beautiful hair?
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
It was getting thinner than a politician’s excuses so I decided to go short again. I explained it in one of my VLOG videos but keep forgetting that they are patron exclusive.
@CorporalWobbly
@CorporalWobbly Год назад
@@MarkFixesStuff I'm sorry to hear that. I grew my hair out during lock down to try to regain my looks from the early 90s. It didn't look so good 30 years later
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
Yes, the same. I looked in the mirror one day and say my old mother looking back at me! CHOP CHOP!
@gregjarvis1232
@gregjarvis1232 Год назад
He should update his picture to he looks nothing like that in his video's
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
@@gregjarvis1232 as soon as I get an opportunity
@locnar1701
@locnar1701 Год назад
Mark Fixes Stuff... Please don't fix cats on youtube... (neutering cats in the states is called "fixing them")
@MarkFixesStuff
@MarkFixesStuff Год назад
We use the same term here haha! My cat knows where I sleep… 🐈‍⬛ soo I can’t say more…
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