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Fixing fret buzz: spot leveling and re-crowning

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Dan Erlewine found a 1935 May Bell and fell in love with her. She has some fret buzz due to worn frets that are flat and wide. Dan shows how a little leveling and filing got her playing again.
This old May Bell guitar has a “mother of toilet seat” pickguard and fingerboard. This model was made by Regal in 1935 and distributed by Slingerland. In the case with it was a metal raised nut to be placed over the string nut, presumably for playing Hawaiian lap-steel style.
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@TheBassplayah 9 лет назад

This Gentleman has the best knowledge and most trustworthy quality of any luthier people who post here.

@SeemsLikeSomething 5 лет назад

Who else wishes this guy was their grandpa or uncle and you could get him to look at all your guitars and fix up em real nice? 😁

@thecarwashcompanyusa 4 года назад

One day this could be you if you keep fixing up ur guitars and learning. It’s who I wanna be!

@anthonycallahan4832 3 года назад

And that guy from this old house - I say that all the time

@jackaalucas 3 года назад

U wish you didn’t have your current grandparents kinda fucked up

@bluewaterpig 3 года назад

Dan Erliwine is a guitar tech’s tech.

@robotsongs 3 года назад

He wouldn't look at them all... He'd bring you into the shop for the first one, explain what he was doing, then say "OK, now you" and sit back drinking a gin and tonic in his chair with the paper while you work.

@blrobinson5854 8 лет назад

I've been a Singer/Song Writer and Performer for 50 years and have always had to send my Favorite Guitars to shops for repairs never getting them back in time for the next show. Thank you for the tips. Tried them and they flat work. You are the Guitar God.

@talister106 9 лет назад

I never tire learning something new about guitars and the noble act of restoring life to a old guitar. Thanks.

@kenren110 3 месяца назад

Dan is a national treasure. Thanks Dan!

@fernandomagana530 7 лет назад

That was honestly the easiest explanation I've heard. I researched all day on how to do this job and saw your video! Thank you! You're a Genius!

@curtiseverett1671 2 года назад

he IS a f@cking genius.......

@mikepawlikguitar 4 года назад

I've seen many other videos of luthiers online but this just is a great example of a real, seasoned professional. THanks a lot

@jimtomatola 3 года назад

I take a Sharpie and color the whole top of the fret. When there's just a thin line of black along the centerline, you're done filing.

@hivacdecatron 9 лет назад

All us guitar fellows do things differently to suit our own style, but you are a true gem. Cheers buddy from Scotland

@michael_caz_nyc 4 года назад

Mr. Dan Erlewine is The Man. I could watch ( and learn ) from him - all day = True Master.

@rakowumusic5143 8 лет назад

You made my day. I had this "buzz" problem with one of my guitars. No one could explain me the reason. Thank you a lot :)

@Jonpoo1 4 года назад

I'd never have the guts to operate on my own guitars but this great video helped me at least understand what I'm paying for. Thanks.

@DunderHead.5000 3 года назад

Where do you take your guitar(s)? I'm looking for a place to send mine since there isn't a local place here I trust.

@ClarenceHW 9 лет назад

Dan, your videos share a wealth of knowledge and experience, thanks so much.!

@jB-cw9gs 4 года назад

Thank you sir for posting these videos. You've help make my guitar fixing skills so much better.

@GRAFHC 9 лет назад

Wow, hard to believe you're 70 years old... I'd guess early 60's if I had to. Great video as always!

@TheClemcaster 5 лет назад

He's actually 23, but he's had a tough life.

@u.s.a.198 3 года назад

I'd like to work with someone like this to learn from them. Very knowledgeable... that's a rare find!

@symonf1966 9 лет назад

It never occurred to me that a string could buzz on the fret it was fretted on. I did like the mother of toilet seat. I'd never heard of that before. Thank you Dan

@hamiltonjenkins167 6 лет назад

Mrlz56 look from 0.40 where Dan explains, with the aid of the diagrams, how the string can buzz on the flat top of the fret that is being fretted. Crowning the fret gives the string a precise point of contact with the fret allowing the string to vibrate without buzzing on that same fret. Buzzing on frets further up the neck is a different problem and I would post a video myself if I had any skill whatsoever in the area of fret filing. So I will just have to carry on with what I do know: talking bollocks.

@Amin.Ashraf 6 лет назад

Mrlz56 it can buzz on the flat top fret it being fretted if the guitar had higher strings action because the string comes in contact on the front side of the flat top fret while leaving a tiny gap on the back of the fret to cause the buzzing when the string vibrate. Buzzing on the fret further up the neck probably caused by the strings action being too low or it had uneven fret crown. Which is the fretted fret is lower than the fret further up the neck. I'm no expert but I think those are the possible reasons for both problem. By the way, I've re-crowning all of my guitar's fret and buzzing no more.

@Hexspa 4 месяца назад

They say the same about flat nut slots: you can get buzz in the nut slot if you don’t angle it back toward the headstock

@TranscendianIntendor 6 лет назад

I don't know if I ought have gotten so much deeper into guitars. I never had them in my future before it came. Thanks, great videos.

@MrRoyobentoni 4 года назад

A deep appreciation for your teachings,

@Robil63 6 лет назад

Great little tute, learnt a valuable tidbit here if nothing else.

@andrewdenine1685 4 года назад

I love these videos. He's a guitar tecs dream

@lawncuttingplusdelta 9 лет назад

Your friend paul from Canada, thanks you.... U are all I need to do it myself on my guitars..... I like how u explain and put little visuals . Great job

@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308 9 лет назад

Cool ole' guitar you have there, Thanks for the buzz fix tip!

@Crantrex 4 года назад

I wish i had a cool grandpa like you

@williamwinn948 Год назад

Love stewmac tools.

@napalmhardcore 7 лет назад

He makes this stuff look so easy and when I try it, well... stuff goes wrong :(

@onpsxmember 7 лет назад

He just did it more often and found out a lot of ways how not to do it. Every journey starts with the first step.

@TheDeathInTheAir 9 лет назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@dingodogrecords 10 месяцев назад

Beauty find.

@circuit-breakermi3865 9 лет назад

May Bell looks and sounds sweet!

@giulioluzzardi7632 Год назад

She's a keeper!

@zurdoremi 4 года назад

yes, those May Bell have a sound all their own. Mine has brass frets and bridge saddle.

@andrewmanford 8 лет назад

This guy is a genius.

@wallsmartsme 6 лет назад

Very educational. I learned something from watching this video Thanks. I just got a lefty guitar ibanez. It's a bueatiful guitar. It needs the frets filed for easier playing with it

@johnnytsunami7150 5 лет назад

Thanks for the demo! I'm looking to fix the fret buzzing on my dillion 522 sas. Great guitar but the body thru design seems to have some oddities in its lower action playing (really bad fret buzz).

@morMICRO 9 лет назад

man! thats a really beautiful guitar

@hivacdecatron 9 лет назад

I would personally advise all after levelling work to be done laterally, or from side to side when using an accurate long beam sander.

@curtiseverett1671 2 года назад

also, when you are doing a fret level, never drink 7 shots of Don Julio.....

@Billo1281 9 лет назад

Thank you for the videos sir! Your videos will definitely help me to get rid of some buzzing I have on my guitars!

@Cam_B 6 лет назад

dude you just like to piss on everyone's cake don't ya

@rent2ownnz 9 лет назад

nice Video Stewart! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

@These_go_to_eleven_1959 7 лет назад

"Mother of toilet seat" that never gets old! LOL

@josephwalton487 3 года назад

😆😆Mother of toilet seat. You had me rolling there.

@st.apollonius5758 7 лет назад

That's a beautiful guitar thanks for the tip.

@AgonyX1992 6 лет назад

I've always had a mixed feeling about fingerboard guard and I'd like to see what other people think. On one hand of course it's handy if you're just working on a few specific frets, but on the other hand, it, being metal, leaves slight parallel traces that don't completely go away (at least to my eyes) even after fret oil. Thoughts?

@camel7355 Год назад

Smooth off the edges with a file, polish. Then use it.

@JohnDoe-gv9jv 8 лет назад

Good job and thanks for the tip on the home made tool. Thank you for sharing.

@afewloosescrewandnuts 3 года назад

Rest easy 😭😭❤️ ..

@keyofdon6890 5 лет назад

Very nicely done

@kahwndry2012 9 лет назад

I enjoy these videos

@smokey9397 6 лет назад

Awesome Dan!!!

@timtamholic555 7 лет назад

Thank You Sir!

@Mistershredd 5 лет назад

We all said "mother of toilet seat" back in the 70s, when those particular pearloid toilet seats were popular. It seems to be making a comeback, which I fully support.

@gabrielbalza5096 3 года назад

Thanks!

@Tad_Johnston 4 года назад

My dads got an ol maybell archtop super cool

@supremeleader9032 5 лет назад

Thanks for the advice old timer

@jamesmurphy5499 9 лет назад

Can a flat file be use just as effectively or do you NEED a 3 corner file?

@ricardodoliveira8631 6 лет назад

Nicely done nicely described helpful thank you.

@7550375503 4 года назад

Mister Rogers of guitars

@dadoblade75 2 года назад

I've never heard the term, "mother of toilet seat" before!🤣

@littlebritain64 5 лет назад

Enjoyed it, thanks!!

@dartsman76 7 лет назад

you don't see that quality of of work every day

@TheAaron3dg 7 лет назад

Thanks for sharing!

@joshuawoodyard7556 9 лет назад

"mother of toilet seat"! awesome!

@PlatinumBlack90038 6 лет назад

It is genuine!

@pjfields2382 3 года назад

The little fret guard tool..can you design one for the whole board instead of taping one off when you have to do the whole thing if that makes sense?

@DougHinVA 7 лет назад

why is there not a file that is a concave to make the fret curve as you use it?

@stricknine8623 7 лет назад

Doug H. in VA its called a crowning file

@DougHinVA 6 лет назад

so why does a pro not just use a crowning file, then ?

@meadish 5 лет назад

@@DougHinVA Reasons I have heard stated (although I could not vouch for whether they are true or not, so take this for what it is, just second-hand info) is that the triangular file affords the user more precise control, and allows the user to remove less material.

@phillyphill34 4 года назад

I hope I'm this cool one day!!!!

@alext8828 8 лет назад

Why are you not using a crowning file to do those frets? I know StewMac sells them.

@sirswift23 8 лет назад

+Alex Tworkowski Good for new frets, but not old or worn, low profiled frets!

@alext8828 8 лет назад

sirswift23 Ah, very good. Good point. I just noticed that you have a unique guard over the fretboard. Where in the world did you find that? That is a gem. I didn't see that in any of the catalogues.

@sirswift23 8 лет назад

+Alex Tworkowski It's a modified chip stopper! Slotted at the end to accept some rubber band. Sometimes the best tool for the job is a tool remade for the job....

@alext8828 8 лет назад

sirswift23 I find that's always the case. I have a friend that swears that the people that design and make tools never use them. I agree w/ him. I find that i need to modify allot of my stuff. Just Googled chip stoppers and Stew Mac came right up w/ a video. Thanks for the info. Gold.

@StefBorremans 4 года назад

Hi Dan! Great video! When I see fret levelling videos, they are always being filed / sanded to reduce height. I wonder why nobody gives the higher frets a few gentle taps with a fret hammer first? Thanks!

@sgd5k292 2 года назад

I know this is a year later, but I tried your method on my Strat that had 4 slightly high frets, and now the frets are level and the guitar plays great again with no buzzing! Thanks!

@zwip778 9 лет назад

Thank you sir

@AngeloLuis22 4 года назад

why some of the guitar is needed to change frets instead of crowning them hmm what is the reason? thanks God bless

@roncarter2188 5 лет назад

Im wondering what would be the best way to fix some frets on the end of the fret board say between the 15th thru the 20th fret, when making bends the strings will die out and not ring like on the lower frets. Should I just remove and sand off some the frets from the 15th thru the 20th alone? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

@miguelrico4338 3 года назад

My american Telecastor Pro II comes with flat frets from the factory. Is this going to be prone to fret buzz?

@patrickpalmer3374 2 года назад

The neck I have came from China cheap because I was going to re fret it and put abalone dots in. The fret markers are not centered, and not centered in the middle of the neck. Markers are like 6mm to one fret and 8 mm on the other side. 12 3/4 to the 12th fret. I have a StewMac fret scale with a fender 25.5 scale on it but when I lay it on the neck many don't center with the rule and the high note frets are way off is this normal or do I have a piece of firewood?

@ronin6158 3 года назад

Good to see counselor Hamann from the matrix keeping busy these days.

@davidkennedy1271 7 лет назад

I see you used a 4 inch sanding block to do a light level...the scourge of people who think they're luthiars. (I'm sure you know what your doing) I think you should do a video on how and when to use a short sanding block....My gut tells me it's for lightly tuning the frets of a guitar that's only slightly buzzing. Also why a short block is better if your leveling with relief in the neck (such as when the strings are on)

@GregMcAskill 5 лет назад

Praise the Lord for vibration frequencies :)

@madmannolen 9 лет назад

when u have the proper set of tools, its way more easier... : (

@GPCTM 3 года назад

Triangular shape doesn't make sense for that as it is used as a tilted flat one. Makes no difference. A pentagonal would do it as it would allow to use the board as ground and the correct angle would be against the fret... Do I need to make a drawing?

@FrisellFan01 3 года назад

There may be a bunch of guys out there that might do this work......but there is only 1 guy I trust......Dan Erlewine....... enough said.

@CC-hs7st 3 года назад

Mother of toilet seat!!. Love it. Thanks

@SFolkes97 9 лет назад

"mother of toilet seat" - you don't see that much these days.

@roshanshrestha4030 7 лет назад

i need to adjust my truss rod.. but i think my truss rod is jam inside.. are there any other way to straighten my guitar neck?

@boogie11able 6 лет назад

Roshan Shrestha Heating and clamping

@franzervinalcaide9667 3 года назад

Can I use a 2.7mm fret on acoustic guitar?

@FYMASMD 4 года назад

I so appreciate luthiers. Personally I can't stand doing guitar maintaining other than oil, strings, and cleaning. I gladly pay for a pro setup on my rigs. Gladly! !!👍😎

@fenderlead1 9 лет назад

Why wouldnt a crowning file work here?

@HarmFlo 9 лет назад

A crowning file could work, but normal files give you way more control.

@customgtrs 9 лет назад

The diamond crowning file is the ticket here I think...for me anyways..

@gingerleyham 9 лет назад

I would have used a crowning file, but only because I don't have the skill to use a regular file!

@curtiseverett1671 2 года назад

You are great!!!! We are not worthy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jennC8797 9 лет назад

What coarseness of sand paper do you use with the sanding block?

@jacksquirrel2001 9 лет назад

+jennifer castro He uses 320 in the "Making a guitar neck more comfortable to play" video.

@shivanshushekhar9356 8 лет назад

my specific fret of specific string are only buzzing like 10 fret of g and s

@noobpower96 8 лет назад

You might want to check ur neck in that case. Chances are its bowed (basically forming like a very long stretched out U-shape). Or you've just really played that 10th fret on the g and have worn out the fret a bit

@kenaiello4851 6 лет назад

instead of a crowning tool I could just use a file like you did for this amateur ? want to learn how. Fret level with a sanding block and crowning thx

@hackprine5691 3 года назад

cool

@alexanderlyberth9821 9 лет назад

What kind of fretboard is that?

@allyhellkiller5535 4 года назад

Lighter strings will travel more and maybe cause fret buzz.

@AdamGtr86 9 лет назад

Anyone know where to get that tool he uses around the fret to protect the fretboard?

@joelbyrne 9 лет назад

AdamGtr86 www.stewmac.com/

@AdamGtr86 9 лет назад

joelbyrne well no s***, lol, I just couldn't find them on the website. Eventually I did find them though.

@TheVINMAN531 6 лет назад

What type of fingerboard guards are they?

@stewmac 6 лет назад

Dan's using a StewMac Fingerboard Guard for Guitar (item #3744) that he's modified to bend around this fretboard for a better fit. www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Tools_by_Job/Tools_for_Necks_and_Fingerboards/StewMac_Fingerboard_Guards.html

@patrickfitzgerald2861 3 года назад

Yes Dan, she has a heckuva body for sure. 😉

@williamdougie6213 7 лет назад

can you get these files at home depot?

@izzynutz2000 5 лет назад

That's a good looking axe there Dan.. With the cherubs on there,, why they'll make good protectors against Balbuh, when you're playing that crossroads down Home blues LOLOLOL

@richardbrucemusic 3 года назад

I love Dan's video's but he completely skipped showing us the leveling part of the process.

@richardbrucemusic 3 года назад

@Nikki Magnusson thanks but I know how. I was just pointing out the omission.

@fingersfhillips 9 лет назад

I wanted to say your awesome I love the work the detail your know how on everything thank you so much for your top rated videos in my book fingers_fhillips 2014