Fixing Gen 3's Underwhelming Pokemon 

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I think it wouldve been cool if you made Volbeat and Illumise Bug/Fire and Bug/Electric because of fireflies vs lightning bugs.

Castform needs a sand form. I have no idea why that weather would weirdly be missing

every day i wake up and remember how much game freak screwed over tropius

I don't think Seviper should be faster, but instead a lot bulkier. Thematically, this makes it a more interesting rival to Zangoose (strong and fast vs. strong and durable) and I think it just fits its design more. Seviper LOOKS like someone who can take a hit, not like someone who can outspeed most threats.

Spinda: what is my purpose? Trainer: you do teeter dance in doubles Spinda: oh my god

I was always irritated by the number of amazing designs that are non-viable to battle with 😂

I legit thought for YEARS that Chimecho debuted in Gen 4

At first when I was child I thought Serviper was a Poison/Dark type because serviper has a sinister vibe in it's design

Chimecho is based on a type of Japanese glass wind chime, making it part Steel type would feel pretty weird... I personally would give it secondary Normal typing. It already has Levitate, so gaining a second immunity to Ghost and removing a weakness at the same time seems pretty interesting for a defensive Pokémon without breaking it's theme. My personal take on changing how it battles would be to lean into the strong support movepool it has it has, increasing it's defenses. 95 Special Attack is already great and it can hit pretty hard even without going all-in on offense, so I would bump it's HP up to 95 and it's Defense up to 85 to make it able to take hits better, and add Wish to it's levelup movepool.

Chimecho's internal ID in Gen 3 implies that it was the last Pokemon added, possibly meaning it was a scrapped Legendary or just added last minute

I'm surprised you didn't mention Banette. Had a lot of potential as the ghost with the highest Attack stat in a time when Ghost was a physical type, but suffers from the same problem as Seviper: slow and frail. The solution is really just the same, making them faster. The same applies to Absol, though in their case they have the additional problem of having the wrong offensive stat for their typing-- maybe also increase their Special Attack a bit? Not too much, since their design is too indicative of a physical attacker to take that away, just enough to be usable.

6:50 I would make one of them bug/electric and the other one bug/fire. I would help with both the lack of electric and fire types in the region + it references both of the names commonly used for their species. In both firefly and lightning bug. It would also help diversify themselves from each other.

Why is this video unnecessarily horror edited?

Masquerain part isn’t really realistic at all imo. 512 BST on an early route bug is kind of insane especially noting the 100 special attack and 120 speed (which are the almost same as sceptile’s 105 special attack and 120 speed). Also glare is specifically for snake pokemon (it’s called something like snake glare in Japanese) AND is explicitly worse than stun spore in gen 3 since it’s the same accuracy but doesn’t affect ghost types. Good video though I enjoyed it Edit: changed wording of first sentence

I think giving Castform a weather duration boosting rock should automatically set up that weather upon switching in. Castform is not surviving the turn it uses to change the weather, and needs all the help it can get.

Its sad, Tropius' legacy will be that in platinum between it and bibarel can use every hm in the game. That is when it was most useful, such a waste of a cool design. And funny enough I have always thought that medicham and chimecho were gen 4 Pokemon since chingling and meditite were easier to find.

Masquerain just needs to remain Bug/Water. Its typing is just horrible. It having wings shouldn't matter either because we already have Beedrill and Dustox.

I agree with the Castform form stat changes a lot, but something that I think would make it really interesting is Forecast summoning weather on switch in based on the first move in its move slot's type: (i.e, Hydro Pump summons rain, Flamethrower summons Sun). That alone would make it interesting because it would be a highly adaptable Pokémon that you could use to make any weather team work. You can argue if it would be broken at that, but like. 1. It's still Castform and 2. The weather Pokémon should be the ultimate weather Pokémon!

Honestly the most disappointment I have from castform is trying to get its non existent sand form to work as a kid

It still annoys that Zangoose got a better stat spread than Seviper consider there supposed to be constantly at odds with each other

I think the way to make Chimecho viable is to swap the locations of it and Abra. It can be a sort of Heracross type, bringing incredible strength in the early game, though unlike Heracross it would fall off later on.

The main problem with Hoenn is that there are a lot of pokemon that have no evolution once so ever. And even if they evolved, their evolution line kind of felt incomplete

Bro me and my brother loved this video. I agree WITH EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING! All of these Pokemon had so much potential, and it's sad they got left in the dust. Good video bro, as always.

The gen 3 games were designed under a lot of crunch, which makes me think that things have changed less than Pokemon consumers think it has. Some of the gen 3 Pokemon movesets and stats feel incomplete or underpowered, especially seeing as they would have their sets further enhanced in FRLG, Emerald, and beyond. A large number of gen 3 Pokemon have very depressed base stat totals and average distributions compared to gen 4 and beyond. Mawile, Sableye, Lunatone, Solrock, Zangoose, and Seviper fill out a lot of the low BST version exclusive slots in the game, juxtaposed with Pinsir and Scyther or Mantine and Skarmory of previous games.

Imagine an in game event in gen 3 where instead of just giving you a cast form, they give you a quest to track weird weather and discover what is causing it and you chase the weather events to find cast form and catch it.

I wish tropius had an offensively-oriented evolution, that way tropius can become a bulky SubSeeder. Similar to porygon-2 and porygon-z

I think for Chimecho instead of making it a fast special attacker I think you should’ve joined in on its supportive capabilities. It being faster is fine but I think you should’ve prioritizes it’d HP stat instead to be around base 85 with its speed at base 75. I think the extra bulk from the HP goes a long way especially for a Steel Psychic and while it’s not outrageously bulky it provides a valuable steel type that other psychic types want. As for the moves itself I think for Gen 3 giving it access to Thunder Wave like they did in Gen 4 would be super helpful. For early game I can see it using Hypnosis instead of Yawn and using Disable instead of Double Edge. For coverage I think instead giving it access to Icy Wind as a level up move would be best since a Wind Chime usually handles cold winds.

Why did this video have the vibe of someone reading creepypastas or talking about haunted corners of the internet?

Talking about the speed always makes me think of gen 7, specifically Vikavolt. I never understand some of these stat decisions made for these pokemon, especially those which you cant get until late in a playthrough.

honestly masquerain should have much less speed since it can be found pretty early in ruby and sapphire, 95 speed would still be pretty fitting and usable at that. it also learns quiver dance in later gens so having 120 speed with that move would be kinda busted

Tropius is such a cool looking Pokémon, with the clear dinosaur and banana tree motifs blending so well together… not to mention a flying sauropod is just incredible. I didn’t use it much, but I defeated Wallace’s level 40+ Whiscash with a level 25 Tropius since it’s basically the perfect counter to ground/water types.

One of my favorite parts about playing difficulty ROM hacks (my favorite and best example of this being inclement emerald) is the rebalance thats often done to make bottom tier mons useable. Some of my favorite examples of this being togedemaru, spinda, ledian, the list goes on. Always so fun to use mons I would, or could really never have touched before .

I really liked this type of video, would love to see a take on gen 2 as well! As for Chimecho, I've always found it kind of weird how he's heavily wind-related but doesn't learn any wind-based moves. Its dex entry even claims it can create powerful winds.

You should do a big video talking about how ABYSMAL old Pokémon movesets where especially before gen 4/5

Mightyena was such a disappointment. I love it's design too. Too bad the stats aren't great. Moves aren't that good either. It's best moves are hyper beam, body slam, crunch, double-edge, shadow ball, and iron tail. Only one is stab and it's off of it's sucky 60 special. 90 attack is okay but it is the best stat it has.

You're absolutely crazy for those Masquerain buffs, 120 speed is just pure nonsense, it's literally already decent and more than usable in general with or without the latest gen's buffs, for casual play or even competitive

I would love to see this for gen 2. Just fix about 90% of gen 2 mons😂

I love the designs from gen 3, I feel like they were honestly really creative and some of my favorite Pokémon designs like Banette, Tropius, Absol, Flygon, and Breloom. They all have a lot of personality and are so unique and eye-catching. I have been playing the mystery dungeon games recently and because the play style is a bit different, less strong Pokémon are able to shine a bit more. Absol for example is a pretty strong pokemon in the game, as well as shiftry and mightyena, and it was really fun to be able to use Pokémon that I would never choose for my team in the main games. I think a lot of the gen 3 Pokémon deserve a little revamp, or at least a new way to sort of break them out of their current standing, whether it be new regional variants or a new way to play with them, instead of another Meowth regional variant or something annoying like that. It’s kinda sad that mega evolutions are done too because with Absol and Banette at least it helped make them more playable and built on their already strong designs.

Kricketune is absolutely not the fully evolved pokemon with the lowest base stat total. 384 - Kricketune 380 - Sabeleye and Mawile 377 - Farfetch'd 375 - Nosepass (Gen 3) 360 - Aipom (Gen 3-4) and Spinda 336 - Unown 330 - Delibird and Lovdisk 320 - the many Pikachus that can't evolve 300 - Meltan can be counted as sort of unable to evolve 288 - Ditto And not only the lowest among fully-evolved but the lowest of all! 175 - Wishiwashi And yes they're all fully-evolved, you just phrased your question badly. X^)

Would love to see a gen 4 version for mons like Kricketune, Lumineon, etc.

Cool to see the open being Delcatty, recently I’ve been pushing at the idea of a regional variant for skitty based of the black footed cat. I wouldn’t want it to evolve, but it’d get a big enough boost in stats to make up for it. The black footed cat has the biggest success rate of hunting at a whopping 60% (lions have a success rate of 20%), they remain solitary and are almost always on the hunt. These line up in similarity to the dex entries for Skitty that talk about it being difficult to earn their trust and how they always love chasing moving objects. You can write it off as Skitty having an ingrained desire to hunt.

Yeah Chimecho is a tricky one. Because it's supposed to be a pretty feeble glass chime. I remember thinking about how I would have changed it a while ago and the only thing I came up with was adjusting its moveset. I originally thought it should be psychic ghost, but I think I was just being biased based off of where it is found. I think that instead it should be psychic/flying type, since its a wind chime. I don't think any changes to its base stats would make sense except maybe a boost to sp. Atk. But I think that it's movepool should be expanded to be more "mystical" and whimsical. Like it should get psychic really early, but also stuff like mirror move and metronome. Also moves like sing/hypnosis and dream eater/nightmare. I feel like pokemon like chimecho with stats that bad are the perfect candidates to just get every move under the sun for any and every playstyle. Because when you really look at it, no amount of broken moveset could make it overpowered, which makes it the perfect candidate. Alternatively it could be given the Azumaril treatment and get a "doubles sp.atk" ability.

A issue i've always had with Bug/Water masquerain is that the reason it loses its water type IS explained in the pokedex : after evolving, Masquerain despise getting wet ! It literally stuns and ground it while making its wings unusable. It is puzzling as why masquerain even learn water moves but still, forcing it being bug water always sounded like a misunderstanding of the pokemon to me

Now fix the gen 2 Pokemon...oh wait it's every single flippin one

Does Seviper really need Dig when it already gets Earthquake? Also, Tropius absolutely needs Sunny Day on its level-up moveset. The fact that it STILL does not learn it by level-up is criminal. It learns Solar Beam by level-up and all of its abilities are sunlight-based.

5:42 Glare is exclusive to snakes and snake-like Pokemon (and Druddigon cuz it's kind of like a basilisk I guess) because of its Japanese name "Snake Glare", so sadly it doesn't really make sense on Masquerain. No, those fake eyes don't look snake-like enough to me... although if you _really_ want to buff it this badly, then I guess it's ok.

just coming here to say that the video editing is really cool, the dark theme is very refreshing, even if you are speaking about pokemon i never saw anything like it, i literally had to comment because its so good, so yeah amazing stuff

I actually used a Castform on my original Emerald team. As expected, it wasn't very good. But the main reason for that in my opinion was because it didn't have full access to it's versatile moveset since TMs weren't reusable. I played an Emerald hack that added recent mechanics like the Physical Special Split, the Fairy Type, and of course reusable TMs, and because I was able to change its moveset for whatever situation it was actually very useful.

This was a great video. Gen 3 is my absolute favorite, but I was very confused with the choices gamefreak made, namely the huge number of 'Gimmick' pokemon like the Rodent Duo, Keckleon, Slaking, etc. Many Dark types have huge physical attacks despite having only special STAB types, Banette lacking a steel typing despite being based on Voodoo dolls and the zipper mouth being a prominent visual feature, Feebas being purely frustrating to find and catch and then having a further annoying method to evovle despite being the counterpart to Magikarp, a pokemon able to found in nearly every body of water. I still love Gen 3 to death, but I would love to see the fully realized potential it could have with enough tweaks.

Linoone can learn the combo Extremespeed + Belly Drum, it's a BEAST if well trained...

why are your bg clips so spooky 😂

What about making chimeco a psychic/normal? Would give it a ghost immunity, and it could get stab on sound moves like uproar. Could also give it something like prankster in later gens, since it is pretty playful usually, and it would make it's non offensive moves more viable. Idk what else would be good though.

Pretty cool video! I like how you actually took the design and lore into account and not just go "Hurr durr, give it +20 Attack and Speed" and called it a day.

These seem easy enough to implement in a hack.

I think it would've been neat if Castform had an ability that would select a random weather effect upon entry

When I first saw tropius as a kid I thought he’d be OP, a banana tree dinosaur is such a neat design. He deserves so much better

Masquerain, Volbeat and Illumise were fixed really well in pokemon radical red, especially Masquerain it's a fantastic pokemon there.

one thing you missed about delcatty that they also buffed in gen 7 aside from its speed stat, is its signature ability, normalize. it gets a 1.2x boost, the same as pixelate/glaciate/aerialate, meaning in some ways, all of delcatty’s moves (which are all turned to normal type) have a sort of technician-esque boost. with a small improvement in speed like you said, and a +20 attack boost, delcatty couldve been a sweeper but with zero ways to attack steel, rock, or ghost types. very niche, but a niche similar to cincinno/ambipom, strong normal type hitters that have no way of beating its established weaknesses. anywho, nice vid! subbed~

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Here’s an idea: Chimecho as a psychic normal type. This gives it far better resistances & ghost type immunity - similar stat distribution you described, but also give it access to crazy amounts of coverage moves you normally see on normal types. Shock Wave, Flamethrower, Ice Beam, etc. Makes it unpredictable and unique for gen 3

I actually really dislike playing through Hoenn because of all the designs I just don't jive with/a lack of good Pokémon. It feels difficult to make a unique team in that gen; I've always felt like everyone's Hoenn team has/ends up with the same small handful of Pokémon: Their starter, latios/latias, gardevoir, metagross, (Insert your favorite dewford cave encounter here), maybe sharpedo, or something, and a linoon HM Slave. Perhaps an Altaria or a Salamance if you're spicy. Granted, Milotic is one of my favorite Pokémon of all time.

Luvdisc should have an evolution called "Luviathan" that makes it a Water/Dragon type lol. XD

Honestly what you said about Grumpig was wrong. It honestly should be up there with Gardevoir for playthrough choices in Hoenn. I recently used one in my Emerald playthrough and it was my team MVP. It was clutch in a lot of battles and was surprisingly fast and bulky while still hitting hard. So Grumpig has grown on my recently and I think the only bad thing about it is it’s design 💀

Chimecho should be psychic ghost type. Bro is legit found on a cemetery.

The transitions looks like a literal analog horror

1:45 Skitty line actually has 3 main uses !! the 3rd is being my favs :)

Castfom would masovely benefot from modern changes like arceus' ability to switch moves outside of battle. So going into different challenges will allow you to easily switch your moves to fit the form you are trying to use. You meat a steel trainer, quickly switch to sunny day flame thrower.... Etc

Seviper and Zangoose could be changed to actually work as counterparts. Giving them the same speed and HP stat is a good start. Then make Seviper a special attacker with a decent defense vs Zangoose as a physical attacker with decent special defense. Should give them two abilities each, one offensive and one defensive. So poison heal and toxic boost for Zangoose, and intimidate and merciless for Seviper. Although I'd change toxic boost to always crit while badly poisoned instead of being a worse guts, and give guts as a hidden ability so it can also fight against Glare-seviper. All of Zangoose three abilities then rely on it being statused, which we can then choose to use against it by giving Seviper Sheer Force as a hidden ability, even though you'd probably just give a toxic orb to Zangoose to guarantee that it's badly poisoned. I feel like they should also have opposing signature moves. Seviper should have something that poisons and constricts, so like a 20 power poison type attack (special after gen 3) that badly poisons and binds the pokemon for 2-5 turns. Zangoose should have a 60 power normal type attack (always physical) that deals double damage if poisoned or if it "can't escape", and triple damage if both. So we've got: Zangoose HP: 75 Attack: 115 Defense: 60 Special Attack: 50 Special Defense: 100 Speed: 100 BST: 500 Ability: Poison Heal/ Toxic Boost Hidden Ability: Guts Seviper: HP: 75 Attack: 50 Defense: 100 Special Attack: 115 Special Defense: 60 Speed: 100 BST: 500 Ability: Intimidate/ Merciless Hidden Ability: Sheer Force

The speed stat is probably reaction speed instead of running.

Thank you for this vid! quite literally my biggest reason to dislike Gen 3 are those said bad Pokémon That’s probably the reason why team building in Gen 3 felt so constricting

If I were a pokemon trainer, I would keep a Delcatty as a pet alongside my journey and not as a fighter.

I’m glad a lot of people are checking out this video in a short amount of time. Did you share it on a Pokemon Discord or Reddit, or was it just the RU-vid algorithm blessing it?

I just found these "Fixing Underwhelming Pokemon" videos and I think they're quite entertaining, but I have one question. What's with some of the background images/transition images? A lot of them look like they're supposed to be horror images. They completely clash with the subject of the video and even what's on screen. Like at 14:28, why is Chimecho's background a dark snowy road, edited to be even darker and more ominous?

Holy crap, I just realized there are only four new Electric-type Pokémon in Generation III.

One change for Masquerain that I know would never happen but would still be really cool would be giving it Water Bubble, Araquanid's ability. I think the effects include halving incoming fire type damage, giving a 2x boost to water moves, and a burn immunity. Tbh, it's kinda OP, but sacrificing Intimidate for what is effectively triple STAB and probably some stat boosts would actually be worth it.

the secret to delcatty is using it like it’s a jigglypuff/clefairy. sing, calm mind, assist

What’s weird is that another Pokémon in gen 3 nincada also had the unique “at the time” bug/ground type to evolve into yet another bug/flying type…but hey it also has the bug/ghost split too

I lol'd at the Grumpig shoutout during the Chimecho section. I used Grumpig way back in the day in Ruby ❤

Masquerain needs more bulk that other things. 120 is absolutely crazy and unfitting in my eyes. Masquerain is a quiver dancer, with intimidate and now a water typing? I think that's enough.

Give Delcatty 130 speed, change nothing else, watch it blossom as a PU support

I've used a Chimecho in the Battle Frontier and it helped me a lot. Here are the moves I gave to him: Yamn Protect Psychic Calm Mind Item: Leftovers So put the foe's pokémon to sleep (first turn yamn, second turn protect), spam Calm Mind and them use Psychic as there was no tomorrow. Dark-Type pkmn were my only problem, of course

I'm starting to feel like my love of Luvdisc and Pokemon contests is not as generally accepted as I once thought.

Shoutouts to Tropius for being one of the few non-legendaries I don't own on Pokemon Diamond, as well as being one of the only two non-legendaries/starters that you literally cannot encounter at all in pokemon diamond (the other being Tangela)

Why does this have such a dark ominous mood

Have u heard of the Chongabell theory before? Around the time DP was released there was a rumor that Bronzong was actually meant to be a Chimecho evolution called Chongabell, released alongside the pre-evolution Chingling, similarly to Budew and Roserade. The idea was scrapped for whatever (game balance?) reason and Bronzor was created instead, but it explains some of the design similarities between Bronzor and Chimecho, as well as the weird pacing at which you encounter the Bronzor line during the games

Masquerain should have been a Bug/Water type with Levitate.

You’d probably be surprised to learn Masquerain actually does have a pretty solid niche in league and low tiers. Flying is also surprisingly important on it. Intimidate, a ground immunity, and access to sticky webs can be super valuable which oddly enough also means it does do the same thing as Araquanid since they’re both primarily used for sticky webs. Heavy duty boots has only made flying even better for Masquerain. Its surprisingly high special attack also makes it super easy to catch opponents off guard with air slash or ice beam. It’s by no means a bad Pokémon, just an under appreciated one.

WHY is the Pokemon based on a SNAKE so _slow???_ Snakes are known for being able to slither around quickly and strike fast, _especially_ the poisonous ones!

great video. i LOVE gen3, it was my introduction to pokemon for real and i still love a lot of what the game done, but it really is sad how many mons there did get the short end of the stick in the gen itself and later down the line not getting proper updates to remain competible/relevant even for main game content most of the time. i do have somethings ido like to say on each of your ideas though i think delcatty could be fine with a +35 BST, (+5 HP, 10 DEF, 15 SPDEF, 5 SPATK) + some new coverage moves. the BST increase puts it in line with the other 2 stage feline mons, i dont think it needs fairy typing. the BST increase to maquerain is way too much, 510 is too much for whats supposed to be an alternate starting route bug, though i agree even those should be competible with other mons, im pretty confident its current BST its fine for what it is. changing it to bug/water, an actually really good combo, and expanding its movepool can already make him a solid pick for a bug special attacker with intimidate. volbeat/illumise suggestions are really good. seviper could use about +20 in speed, but also arbok needs some BST increase to not be overshadowed by virtually his regional clone. i feel like thats probably the reason it doesnt have intimidate. alternatively, seviper could have dark as a secondary typing, making it a great defensive typing and have more coverage. castforms idea is interesting. honestly, if it just had an stat increase when transformed, even if just +15 in every stat it could already be bumped into something interesting to use. also just let it transform into a sand form already in sandstorm and be ground type. tropius could use +40 BST distributed on both his defenses, hes a giant banana tree sauropod, one of the largest dinos that existed, this thing should be THICC! the movepool increase is great though, being based on a dinossaur could potentially let it have some dragon moves, since well, dragon types are ultimately also just the reptilian type to an extent. i think what chimecho really needs is new abilities to make a good supporter, something like prankster or natural cure. also of course a bunch of support moves to help it along. making it part steel type could be interesting and i can see why, but i dont think thats a really good solution, i fact making it yet another psychic/fairy would be more fitting for me personally, considering the mysticism surrounding wind bells in japanese culture.

Calling Seviper a late game Pokemon is kinda weird considering it can be caught before the 4th gym. That's not even half the badges

This is really funny to see because I used all of these Pokémon except Illlumise when I played Sapphire for the first time back in the day. I was a kid so I was clueless about stats, I used whatever I liked and I liked all of these guys. I even kept my Mudkip as a Mudkip and legitimately got him up to level 100 lol. My first shiny Pokémon ever was a volbeat. So that's why I was using it. I didn't even know about shiny Pokémon before that, I thought it was a secret thing I found or something.

I would actually be fascinated by the introduction of an alternate evolution for Skitty that does have much better stats and give dex entries that imply the same sort of thing as Alolan Persian but the other way around, that this hypothetical new evolution is what Skitty becomes in nature while fighting for its life and Delcatty (as the delicate cat) is the result of generations of selective breeding for contests.

While Castform's stats changing depending on its form could be kind of fun, it'd still probably be for the better to keep its stats consistent between forms. You don't really have full control over what form it's in so having its speed, bulk and attack stats vary wildly would probably just make it harder to use. As for what kind of stats it would have, I think just a decent stat buff to the original spread to make it slightly more specialized would be enough to make it more usable while still staying true to its spirit. Something like this: HP: 70 Atk: 70 Def: 70 Sp.Atk: 90 (+20) Sp.Def: 90 (+20) Spe: 90 (+20) The more significant upgrade would be to its Ability. I love the idea someone had that Castform could automatically set any weather by holding one of the weather extension rocks. Maybe it could also have the effect of neverending weather as long as Castform is on the field. I'd also give it Recover for some extra longevity like you did.

I've played Pokemon emerald redux and tropias is a BEAST! Dragon grass, and it fights like it's always in sunshine so harvest+citrus Berry makes it hard to deal with. I think it also gets thick fat too (Pokemon in this game have 4 abilities active at once)

The Skitty/Delcatty thing is made even worse in Ruby. In Sapphire, you can get more Moon Stones from wild Lunatone. The problem? It’s exclusive to Sapphire, in Ruby these are replaced with Solrock, which instead can hold Sun Stones, which you already can get one of in Mossdeep City and only need one for the dex (to get Bellossom). But for the dex alone you need two Moonstones: One for Delcatty and one for Wigglytuff, meaning without trading you can only get one of those two in Ruby.

Masquerain is actually a legitimate pokemon in gen 9 ou. Sash lead sets can take advantage of Great Tusk lead by threatening a hurricane OHKO on turn 1 or setting up webs. Boots sets can also be used if you absolutely need an intimidate user that isn't arcanine or gyarados. It's very niche but I've seen it more than a few times.

Who tf looked at chimeco and tought: "yeah, this thing needs a baby form"

Dustox and beautifly needs a huge buff too

"Even with its stat buffs, Masquerain is still weak" yeah no, Guzma's feels-like-600 BST Masquerain still gives me nightmares, lol.