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12:50 The IIcx and IIci really like having their axial electrolytics replaced to get rid of all soft power issues. If you unplug it, let it sit for half an hour, plug it in and it works again, then you know it's those capacitors.
Hey Ken, Nice video. There’s some great content on this channel. Your Vintage Apple Vault intro video was sublime. But can you please spare you some trouble in the future and NOT PLUG ANY ADB device while the mac is on? ADB was never designed to be hot swappable (nor was SCSI) and doing this could blow the ADB filter on the logicboard. I mean, I wouldn’t mind watching you swapping chips around until you fix it but trust me, you don’t want this to happen. Instead you could perhaps make a recap video? The PSUs are getting weaker and weaker and the logicboard certainly needs some attention too. Here’s a list of the logic board caps to replace (www.maccaps.com/MacCaps/Capacitor_Reference/Entries/1989/9/20_Macintosh_IIci.html) and here’s a list of the ones inside the PSU (4700pf 250v X filter x2, 4.7uf 400v ,47uf 25v, 470uf 200V x2, 100uf 35v, 180uf 16v, 470uf 16v, 4.7uf 50v x2, 1000uf 16v, 2200uf 16v, 1500uf 10v x2, 2.2uf 50v). I know this is quite a long comment. If you made it this far, you thumbs up. Keep up the good work.
+1 to that. Actually, hot-swapping ADB could be the reason you can't use the ADB soft power any more. Hopefully that is not the case here. Pretty much every 68k Mac with SMD caps will need to be recapped, with a few exceptions. If you notice any residue on the Logic board or dull looking solder pads that is most likely electrolyte leaking on the board.
@@StevenSmyth Always good to do that. However you might want to choose another provider for recaps as MacCaps is having serious issues right now. Go to 68kmla.org for more info...
@@RacerX- Thanks for the advice. I read the thread, and I think I have an alternative source on ebay that I'm going to try. The thread was all about MacCaps proprietor and his problems, not about solutions for this issue. I'd do it myself but a) I'm not very good at soldering, and 2) the feeling in my hands is diminishing due to diabetic neuropathy. I can barely type accurately.
HELL YES.. I used that CD drive all the time in high school. It had the digital encyclopedia and other research things on it for class papers and stuff.
I recently was able to pick up a iici locally (still in box, however was used) and am excited to touch one after many many years. Great videos, you have me as a loyal subscriber now! I had a trashed lc2 that I was able to grab the hdd out of but now I'm needing the scsi cable for the mobo. It's gonna be a small project but one I'm looking forward to.
Most excellent! I love this vintage of Macintosh! You can always get you a Floppy EMU from BMOW. I use one on my SE and both of my IIfx machines. I haven't attached it to the Apple IIe yet, but I have run out of work room to set stuff up LOL.
Man it has been forever since I've seen this Mac IIcI on your channel!! Amazing video like always, kinda nostalgic. Keep up the good work Ken!! Also under 1,000 views ;)
@@ComputerClan Anytime Ken! I watched you way before I had a channel (around 2010-2011). You were one of the people that inspired me to collect Apple compters!
The mouse needs a little cleanin'! All you gotta do is pop on the ball, unwind a paperclip and scrape the gunk off those wheel-y things inside. Much better mouse feedback will ensue!!
1:48 I think 32-Bit QuickDraw extension came out in 1988, so the system software could cope with rendering/manipulating up to 32 bits per pixel, even if you couldn’t display that directly on-screen.
Check the clock battery. I believe those were needed to fire up the Macs from the keyboard. Been a while since I used those, but that's what I recall. Keep 'em rollin'!
No, you can power on with a dead battery from the keyboard. Ken shouldn't be plugging and unplugging his ADB keyboard as the ADB ports on classic Macs have power on them.
Ahh, the IIci, my dad bought one of these around 1991 and it was our family computer until we eventually replaced it with a first-gen G3 desktop. I took it out of storage a few years back and it wouldn't boot. Opened it up to find the battery had leaked all over the entire logic board, corroding a huge swath of it and even the bottom of the hard disk above it somehow. There was even battery acid pooled on the bottom of the case. Wasn't pretty... basically completely unsalvageable. :(
I found one at a surplus store and bought it not knowing it had that same exact problem. I tried to clean it up but there was no way it was going to work.
That floppy drive is meant for a Powerbook... In fact, I believe that particular model was meant as part of a mini dock setup for a Powerbook Duo! The Duo line was a line of super small laptops that didn't even come with an internal floppy drive, you were supposed to stick them in a dock or hook external peripherals into them via a docking attachment and then leave all that at home when you took it out with you. If I remember correctly, the external dock connector was actually the computer's Processor Direct Slot! I've always wished I could get my hands on a full duo setup, because they're a fascinating piece of computer history. They're like the precursor to Netbooks and Chromebooks. The idea was super ahead of its time... I really doubt many of them are still functioning, though, and you'd basically have to make your own battery from scratch.
I used to have a Macintosh Classic II maxed out to its absolute limit. It had 10 MB of RAM and a 384 MB hard drive. That's not much by any means in today's computers, but in '91, for a "low cost" all-in-one computer with a monochrome display, holy hell. I ended up giving it to a previous employer of mine as a sign of my appreciation as he is much more interested in Apple than I am.
You should probably remove the clock battery from the logic board. At some point it's going to leak and destroy/damage the board. The computer should run fine without it - it just wont remember the time once you unplug it from the wall. Judging from your file dates it looks like the battery is already dead and this is happening anyway, so there is literally no good reason to keep it in there.
Ken should replace the PRAM battery. The IIci/IIcx/Quadra 700 all took the same 3.6v, 1/2 AA size LIon batteries which are still made by Saft and can easily be obtained on Amazon. Also, the battery is not just to hold the time, it also saves the display settings (like screen resolution and color depth), the time zone setting, speaker volume, and the startup volume choice.
@@StevenSmyth I don't disagree at all, except to add that if you want to put the computer back into storage to be sure to remove the battery. Personally I find it easier to just forego having a pram battery since the computers i'm using are going to be plugged in to the wall anyway, and the ones I'm not might be sitting dormant indefinitely. Fixing the settings is a lot easier than dealing with a leaky battery some years down the line.
I keep a lot of my old Macs plugged in as well, but these lithium ion batteries are not as prone to leakage than say the 4.5v Energizers that were in the later Performas and LCs. I have a beige G3 desktop and 4 G3 iMacs all with Saft batteries and not one of them has leaked or even corroded. I'm not saying it would never happen, but it's rare.
That’s the Apple Design Keyboard and Apple Design Mouse. Oddly enough, the reason the hard drive didn’t work with the PowerBook could be power/voltage related. Does it work with any other portables? Great vid as always Ken!
This video reminds me of my LCII. The Pram battery is dead so every time you turn it on, it's in black and white, so you have to go into the control panel and switch to color mode just like you did.
10:21 Usually RAM doublers work by compressing RAM, giving technically up to double the capacity by compressing contents...although it uses some more CPU power to compress and decompress memory on the fly
True that there are something about vintage mac's. It is the same for all vintage computers. Yet I can't help thinking how it would perform against a 5000 dollar Amiga from 1989. Not in terms of muscle, yet more in terms of how various tasks or productivity stacks up against each other. Text editing features, video editing features, music making features, spread sheet features and finally gaming experience.
I love the CD 300, at least conceptually. The one my brother uses with his LC 475 went out on him sadly. Am I the only one who thinks caddy-based drives like this are amazing?
You installed the NuBus video card, which supported millions of colors, yet you attached the video cable to the onboard DB-15 video connector. The onboard graphics of the IIci shared system memory and only supported 256 colors.
Nice llci! I own a llcx with that exact same case, but sadly I last saw it light up 4 years ago, it does absolutely nothing now, might be a power supply issue.
The II ci has integrated video, hence the i. The II cx (and II, II x and II fx I think) need a nubus video card. As there are two video outputs in the monitor settings you see the option of managing the two screens. Also, don't connect any ADB when the computer is on and remove the battery if you don't use the computer!!!
I don’t know about that ADB thing. Many people say that’s a myth. I’ve never broken anything while hotplugging ADB. But thanks for letting me know about the ‘i’. That’s cool.
First LAPTOP OS (No it wasn't desktop it was laptop lol): Uhmmmmm.. Not catalina... What was it again? Ummmmm.. It started with high.. Ummmmmmmmmmmm "Brain.exe has stopped working" "An error occurred while doing stuff" Press any key to force think.. *keyboard: Key input G* It was high sierra
Hey Ken, I've been restoring some IIcx that I found and needed some of the drive carriers. I found them here: www.applerescueofdenver.com/products-page/case-internal-parts-macintosh/drive-carrier-iici-iicx-quadra-700/
@@ComputerClan Because they simply assumed everything was “DB”, like a lot of people did. forum.digikey.com/t/d-sub-connector-names-and-shell-sizes/587
