Fixing the Yiddish Keyboard 

Honestly, the sound quality works fine as it is. I would even say it adds a certain level of comedic value ! Also your videos are always very interesting, thanks for all your good work !

I imagine you could do some stuff in Audacity or better with the Premiere Pro equaliser if you use it, just to make it sound less submarine and more recorded in a different session

I think it adds to that bit, if anything.

The thing I like most about Yiddish (aside from the fun words that jump over into English saying "hey look at me, I'm a Jewish word!") Is that Yiddish is close enough to Hochdeutsch to feel like you are understanding what's being said, but also different enough in it's vocabulary that entire sentences sound alien to German.

@@RobespierreThePoof it's especially interesting experience if you already have some background in both hochdeutsch and any variety of slavic language. after that, all that's left is the hebrew vocab

Japanese duolingo is so anal for such a flexible language it's infuriating

It's reading your mind to make sure you thought the right pitch accent.

@@PlatinumAltaria Dogen would be proud

It’s because the letter that you typed had the stroked made in the wrong order

"you don't get it, you need to say SOME sightseeing, not just sightseeing. what? the original sentence has none of that nuance? well fuck you"

🤣

Oouf

@@arjaygee because of their profile picture obviously, it's just a harmless bit about linguists

I think this is just an inside joke. It's the trans flag. Then the next argument starts: are trans people "gay", "queer", "trans" or just plain like a bagel? Is this the joke? Is the first person with rainbow sunglasses the standard gay? Am I gay? Are you? If eating a bagel is gay, what about a Cronut? Do you even know how much fat a Cronut has? My biceps needs fueling, I need to lift and Cronut. Wait, why are we talking about gym? I wonder if Uber eats delivers Cronuts...

@@arjaygee gay is often used as a synonym to queer. Source: I’m gay

​@@arjaygee Dude a lot of trans people would (and _do_) make that exact joke. You don't need to get offended for us about it.

​@@arjaygee I was actually thinking because "all online linguists aren't cishet" a trans linguist therefore does not "need" to be gay in order to fit

hmmmmm

People thought the degradation of language 1984 style would come through government censorship- once again we find corporations turned out to be our real life monsters. Everything will be sanitised for the maximum saturation viewing audience and you'll enjoy it.

“a sudden decline in the mid-20th century”

so you mean gEn0C!dE then...

Gotta love automatic moderation

oh god i would love to see some Yiddish written with Cyrillic; am currently working on adapting Yiddish Hebrew alphabet to write a Slavic language

Please share the Yiddish cyrillic!

i, too, want to see this cyrillic yiddish. i feel like it'll break my brain even more than seeing turkic languages in cyrillic, but it'll be a fun way to go...

​@@comradewindowsill4253саволлар?

We agree!

Would you say it was.... Beta.... Back then?

​@@abbott75oh my god

ONESHOT ​@@kijete

@@abbott75 alpha*beta*

Qwerty is based on an alphabetic order? That's news to me.

@@angeldude101 that's how it originally started, but it's obviously changed significantly in the 100+ years since its creation. less common letters were moved to the corners, most vowels were moved to the top row, etc. it's pretty easy to see the remnants of it on the home row.

You mean ת? That’s called tet. Tau is the name of the Greek t letter. Edit: nevermind I’m stupid ט is called tet, ת is called taf (or tau I guess)

@@novaace2474 1. Greek letters get their names from Hebrew letters, so ת is Tau... 2. Tet (or, as you say, in Greek, Theta) is ט...

​​@@adrianblake8876 a native Hebrew speaker here, we pronounce ת as 'tav' or 'taf' (the first is the correct pronunciation, the second is the one I see most people actually use). Of course the Yiddish pronunciation could be different... I don't know Yiddish, but I thought I'd give my two cents here

Their mother is very proud

@@cpu_1292 Their*

@@Elisadoestransstuff I apologize

Yeah! It's AltGr with the opening letter of the name of the niqqud for the most part. Also, the way they did the dots for shin and sin is genius- they put them on the Q and W keys, above and to the left and right of the shin key.

@@ocaollaidhe Classy

@@ocaollaidhe why

Love your videos Sam!

Heyo

Glad to see you beat me to my usual comment lol!

Same

Phone Hebrew keyboard (at least on Android) are probably the most intuitive way to add Niqqud, you basically hold the first letter of the name of the symbol and then pick from the list that pops up the one you want. So you can hold Qof and then pick from Qubbutz, regular Qamatz/Qomatz and Hataf Qamatz/Qomatz). Windows and Linux Hebrew keyboards (I never used a MAC so I can't say if it's the same there) are basically the same but they had to get creative to keep it to one Niqqud per key so they'll all be assigned to ALT_GR + key (or ALT+SHIFT+key) and you won't have to remember what's tied to ALT or SHIFT or CTRL or some combination of them. Qubbutz is tied to \ due to visual similarities, Hataf-X is to the right of whatever key X is signed to, etc.

מסכים. כבר הרבה זמן חשבתי ליצור סידור מקלדת חדש שמתחשב בתדר השימוש של האותיות בעברית

כדובר עברית ממוצע אני אישית לא יכול לקרוא ידיש💀

@@orimation2956lol as a terrible Hebrew speaker Yiddish is way easier to speak especially cause it has 10 words for every thing and there’s no way I’ll forget them all

⁠​⁠​⁠@@sentient3408 Did you really just say a language is “easier to speak” than another language? Also even if it actually had 10 words for everything it wouldn’t make it easier to not forgot it would just make it difficult to decide what words to use :/

They've done it btw, speedrunning swedish duolingo iirc

@@Lo33y_ Oh, sick. Thanks for telling me!

And then you end it with the Dwarf Fortress style guitar at the end. Get out of my head, man!

just curious, why did you spell Hebrew wrong two different ways?

@@comradewindowsill4253 I have dyslexia.

You're so right about that!

Not to mention the physical key layout is inefficient ( row stagger ) simply to look like a typewriter

I wouldn't say there are too few keys though, it's more about how they're used poorly. Windows wastes two entire modifier keys ( both right and left alt, if i understand how that works )

​@U20E0 I had no idea about row stagger before reading this comment. As a 2 finger typer, I wanna see if I can get more fingers with an ortholinear keyboard. Thank you!

@@clev7989 i find it very weird that ortholinear (and column stagger!) keyboards aren't the norm.

This made me think about how Yiddish is basically the same as English, a germanic language in structure and origin that uses a lot of the vocabulary of a different language family, in English's case latin, in Yiddish's Hebrew

Why would the Latin alphabet be inappropriate? I guess you could add some extra few letters, but that's why Germanic languages have done so with Ä Ö for example.

@@Liggliluff The Latin alphabet was not made for the Germanic languages and trying to adapt it to their needs was... a challenge, one that admittedly wasn't completely overcome with languages like English. Granted, the sound ahifts that occurred added to the confusion but it was a struggle to adapt it for their use from the start.

@@Liggliluff Because unlike the Romance languages, the Germanic languages have a lot of vowels. Of course you can add stuff, but that's kinda what I mean when I say they don't fit. My dialect of English has 20 vowels, and just 5 vowel letters to go around. Yiddish only has 9 vowels but that's still more than 5. It all goes back to the origins of the alphabet with the Semitic languages, which don't write vowels at all. The Greeks adapted some of the letters into vowels, but Greek doesn't have nearly as many vowels as languages like English and Dutch.

@@PlatinumAltaria That's why a language like Swedish, with 18 vowels, group them by long and short, since they are related (adjective with a long vowel can become short in neuter). This only requires 9 vowels to be written: A E I O U Y Å Ä Ö Ä and Ö are linked to A and O, such as in plurals: stad - städer, and other related terms: ost - öster. So the usage of ¨ makes sense. At least it's better adapted than the Runic script, which has used same letter for H and Å, same letter for S and I, and such.

We Romanians dealt with the diacritics issue by making our own keyboards (that most dont use and for some reason made y and z switch places)

@@cgt3704 We Poles, used to have a keyboard with separate keys for our diacritic letters but we stopped using it.

@@modmaker7617 yeah that checks out.

For Lithuanian there are 2 standard layouts. The most common one places Ą Č Ę Ė Į Š Ų Ū Ž instead of numbers (you can still type 1 2 3 etc. using Alt key) and the second one replaces Q W X and signs on the right of the keyboard. But I don't want to switch between a bunch of layouts so I've made a custom English QWERTY with Alt keys for Lithuanian and a custom ЙЦУКЕН for Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian and Rusyn. Also I've been learning Polish, but made a break, and I've tried to place Polish letters to the Ctrl layer but the system keeps understanding them as hotkeys. It would be cool to use the right Ctrl for typing and the left one for hotkeys.

@@cgt3704 qwertz is also used in a lot of other countries, mostly in Central Europe.

i love linguistics cause it seems like half of the people involved in it are jewish and queer, so every time i like a linguistics channel it also turns out they are jewish and queer like me

I think English speakers call Plattdeutsch "Low German", but flat German is much funnier

Ain't no way you just called Plattdeutsch "flat german"💀

@@arthurgabriel2625 well, the standard german is high german, so. take that as you will

This is on a Hebrew keyboard (not Yiddish). Here's the wikipedia link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_keyboard

It seems that what you found is the old layout, and I found the new and improved one.

@@PizzasBear Did you just, talk to yourself here?

that’s so clever! do none of the nekudot names overlap first letters?

@@itmedana There is some overlap, though those are usually less common. For example, וֹ overlaps with אִ, but it is only used with ו, so AltGr + ו will add this Niqqud. Also, the wikipedia page has nice explanations for each keybonding.

It worked for me! Perhaps it was been updated in the last few hours, or maybe it’s a device-specific issue?

@@bywonline well, not in my case. I've based them on the standard English and Russian layouts. For the Latin one I've added Lithuanian letters with diacritics to the Alt layer, so Alt + A = Ą, Alt + C = Č etc. (just like on Gboard). Also I've added punctuation marks I use regularly („ “ ” ‚ ‘ … - -); ≠ and ℃; combining stress mark; and Þ with Ð 'cause I like them. In my Cyrillic layout I've assigned Ukrainian І Ї Є Ґ ' on the same keys they are on the standard Ukrainian layout + right Alt key. Belarusian Ў is Alt + У, Rusyn Ӯ and Ō are Alt + К (right from У)/О. Also I use Russian pre-reform letters sometimes, so there are Ѳ Ѵ Ѣ. I'm experimenting with Russian orthography so I've added Ғ from Kazakh for [ɦ], but c'mon, I can just use Ukrainian/Belarusian Ґ for that. And there are my punctuation marks for Cyrillic script (« » „ “ … - -) plus ≠, ℃ and combining stress mark. So, basically I've copied all the stuff I use on my phone with Gboard. Well, except for ℃ Ӯ Ғ and Ѵ, they aren't available on Gboard (I could add Kazakh layout for Ғ but I've almost stopped using it anyway) Most of the time I type in English, Lithuanian and Russian, but sometimes I need other symbols, but I don't want to use 5+ layouts, it's much easier to switch between writing systems.

'ought to be', but they were encoded as separate characters in legacy encodings and Unicode copied them as is their duty

@@theodiscusgaming3909 Oh man, all the shenanigans that happened because of Unicode 'importing' legacy encodings. Like the Polytonic Greek block.

question's what the first K stands for

www.youtube.com/@CuDoesThings the link works for me idk why it doesn't for you :'(

Nope, the courses are still human made, but they've deleted the discussion button and will add a chat bot that will (in theory) answer all your questions. And perhaps it will be available for premium subscribers only…

Ok a moment after you said it is fundumental to yiddish lol

It's called a rafe, which is no longer used in Hebrew but still exists in Yiddish.

I shall add that \ is used for ◌ֻ because they have similar shape.

this is a quirk of how inputting these characters works on a right to left keyboard. just trust me bro, this is the way hebrew and arabic do it, and it seems stupid but it's for a good reason

@@kklein thanks for the explanation, i did not consider that my de_CH-latin1 ass cannot comprehend special character placements

Begging you to elaborate

They don’t swear off technology like monks in movies they just aren’t allowed to use smartphones because of all sorts of rules on how the internet is not kosher A lot of Orthodox Jews use computers

@@eylonshachmon6500 "the internet is not kosher" I... I mean. they're not wrong.

@@eylonshachmon6500 i don't think there's any disagreement between us. We are saying the same thing. You find the phrase "swearing off" too strong? Okay, sure. My point was that a small population of language-users who are not avid technology users, using it to communicate electronically less frequently, is not likely to push tech companies to generate a better keyboard for that language - and the tech companies are not likely to chase down such a small market either. It is unfortunate.

Also, semi-related: as a native (Israeli) Hebrew speaker who also speaks German and also English, obviously), apparently I already know like 80% modern Yiddish. I guess learning Russian or Ukrainian will cover the rest...

​@@pelegsapas far as I understand, the German part of Yiddish is from Middle High German which was spoken around 1050 and 1350 so the knowledge of modern standard German will definitely help, but there will be a bunch of things you will need to learn

yup. its really scary we’re at this point