FLASH UNLEASHED: We Tested Flash in CEDH 

Mfw it got exiled game 1 super early: 😐

The first exile pissed me off so bad

big fan of the format!

The point of the video was that they didn't have a good chance to even use flash, instead they went with better and more efficient win lines.

I agree. Why make a deck with the intent of examining if were viable only to not utilize it?

Rather watch precon content then see another ring master game

Na, nothing is worse than every single deck being Flash Hulk and almost every single game being decided by who gets to cast Flash first.

Haven't seen a Thoracle win here then, have you?

most of the time thoracle at least has to be played on that player's turn@@slymcfly123

Ban rhystic

Thank you! They’re custom made for me 🙂

​@zrob may I ask if it was someone you know who made them for you or was it from a seller of some sort?

@@ajsdfjaoine They were commissioned and are exclusive to me

Ame based.

Yes. They where mana counters? If so, I use a single card with all 6 symbols and use dice to show what's in the pool. Enjoyed seeing those counters tho. Uber cute.

To be more specific it was really more the Ad Naus that did most of the heavy lifting there.

Tbf rogsi is easily top4 decks in the format imo so it’s fine.

@@Zen-708 I don't mind 1, but it would be nice to have 4 different decks just to show diversity

@@jackpabich763 honestly the flash meta game was the opposite of diversity so this is fine 😂

No one asked

I like it better

At least it isn't mid game like it was in one of the videos. This is a compromise.

It's perfectly fine

​@@lilwigese1Hahaha got em!

It's the far left petal(clutch).

Need more experiments to see how Flash will work.

Yawgmoth's Bargain?

They’re custom!

Btw it was illegally countered - that negation could not be cast through its alternate cost :( 11:17 refers)

Btw I’m guessing it was cast to skip Alana’s turn

@caveira2099 oh just so alex could combo sooner? Alright i guess that makes sense, thanks for the response!

That kills me :(

Magic is hard. Glad you spotted it, went over my head.

I was looking for this comment , the whole podcast they listed like 2 subjective reasons why born is bad and one of them being there's like "multiple other cards you can play like this" and then only using final fortune as the only other example. AND ALANA EVEN KEPT FF G1S1. And still blew the table out with good timing. Lots of people in CEDH community are obsessed with their own opinions on what cards to play when it literally is the most casual, still non sanctioned format. I had to unfortunately stop listening to their podcast because it's so counter-creative .

If I remember correctly, Flash enabled Protean Hulk combo lines because it can put AND sacrifice Protean Hulk in instant speed, looking and putting combo winning creatures into the battlefield. Flash hulk lines were very popular in CEDH, and when Thassa's Oracle came into existance... well, Flash gained another great creature to put into the battlefield in instant speed. If today you need to put T'oracle into the battlefield and resolve Demonic Consultation, with Flash you could do this in instant speed and with a generic mana instead. Many games were decided by being the first player to cast - and resolve - a flash combo line (hulk package or oracle package). I think this was the main reason of the banning... there is a article by the RC explanning the ban of flash somewhere in the internet, maybe it can explain something that i forgot

Because it's oppressive asf and becomes the only wincon in the format. Every single deck has to be Flash Hulk in some form.

Flash had an exclusive opening hand that allows it to combo off turn 0. The combo basically bled off into casual and like Paradox engine when it bleeds into casual peeps get butt hurt and it gets put to the test by the admins of EDH, to see if it's ban-hammer time.

@@justinnicolathyme Actually, it didn't bleed into casual at all. Flash Hulk is the kind of thing you only ever do with intent. Anyone putting it in their decks knew exactly how degenerate it was. The Flash ban was a one-off for the cEDH community that a lot of people begged for (partially because its primary cEDH competitor at the time, Paradox Engine, had just gotten the axe for creating _accidentally_ degenerate board states in casual), and since it had at best extremely minimal impact on casual, the RC agreed to it.

Deck changes aren't allowed in EDH, and the opening hands would be groovy to see. They were probably trying to save time. Most peeps have tik-tok brain.

Atraxa gets the trigger, but Razaketh wouldn't do anything. You could not activate Raz's ability before it went to the graveyard.

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG even so, the floor with this thing is we get Thoracle combo at instant speed now. I'm sure someone much more creative than me could cook up an even better flash combo to surpass pro hulk.

One of them even exiled it in game 1 which is even funnier.

And it literally says "Illegal" when he casts it 11:17

Fluster counters an instant or sorcery, but also Thassas had already resolved so you would need to counter an ability to stop

@@MstrKipper my bad! Thassa enters, the ability is on the stack, then they cast demonic consultation. Alright.

To tax her own spell?