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There's no need to use a "stick." China is forming benign alliances with many nations around the world...through BRI, through BRICS, through RCEP, through SCO, and so on. China is working to *unite* the world, while Western countries like USA and UK are working to *divide* it.

European n British is so innocent wonder which country committed genocide in Africa America Asia pacific island n Australia

You like it or not. China is going to lead the world. Big love to China. ✌️❤️

Jack Ma's Ant Finance Group engulfed the ordinary chinese with very,very serious loan problems that will impact China's banks (the loans were packaged such that the risks are mainly borne by the banks,not Ant Finance).The leverage was terrible .That's why the Ant Finance had to be reined in.Not those smearing here

The strength of any country is its populace. As long as CCP serves its people, it doesn't matter whether it is a communist model or democratic model, it will succeed. But in the end no model or system is perfect. I think the rivals to China have to understand the levers within their system of functioning to balance their power

No one species should follow and change itself for other. Nature don't work that way. Be yourself and contribute in your own way. Show your ability, and allow other to show their. Jealousy bring you nowhere.

China is registering more international patents than America, and China produces 2 X STEM graduates than America does. The quality of these graduates can be judged by just visiting any top STEM university in America to find that they are academically beating their classmates hands down.

Observation of the panels: Samir:- Was too fired up with the emotions and hate against China, thus he failed to make a sensible contribution to the overall discussion and how to counter China realistically and not just wishful thoughts and expectations. His begging for partnership and collaboration with Europe to sideline China completely might work well for India's rhetoric, but Europe have a different idea of China as a challenge. They are not as emotionally as invested as Indians do to the challenge of China, and understandably so. Just like here we say - "National Interest First", Europe have their own interest and priority when it comes to China. Dean Cheng:- A typical USA propagandist who will blame everyone else (particularly China) except themselves. America is like that Husband who sleep with your wife/others wife, violates all the human rights and international laws that was written, would lectures you on moral values etc. -- but he doesn't want you to do any of that, not even a bit. If you do, even if it's just little, he'll announce to the world that you are the most evil creature on earth and should be destroyed. 😆 The other two panels from Europe - are just playing it safe. We can clearly see, they know China is a challenge, a strategic competitors but they also don't want to blindly follow the US anymore. It has hurt them more than many times, including the current inflation :-). So they are looking for their own path in the broader scheme of theme. Note: I love how the so called EXPERTS are sometime so unintelligent and defective LOL. The USA guy at the end said - CCP is happy because it's populations is getting older!!! Like WTF!! 😆. If that's the case, then why is the same CCP promoting for more children nowadays after dismantling the 'one-child policy'?? They even went to the extent of cracking down many expensive private education system in China (at the cost of their own economy and reputation) to make education more affordable to parents, so that it will encourage them to have more children. HAHAHA Sometimes these experts think we viewers are all fools LOL.

Final point: Amazing that you can have a debate with people all on one side of an issue. Having said that, the young lady in tech is the best because she does admit that the US is just hating China because China is better. Europe needs to chart their own course. The guy from India is so biased it's ridiculous, LOL!

European, in particular UK is so jealous of China

Thank you for expressing your analysis and summary it shows me this panel does not have knowledge to make things work. I am an American who has gained the utmost respect for Xi and the Communist party leadership. They actual practice democracy better than any country in the world.

The moderator lady should direct the question of Funding of Insurgent and Terrorist should be directed to the USA.

When you can't eat the grape it's sour.

Big jealousy to nowadays Chinese prosperity from EU and Indian politicians.

The Indian speaker looked very angry and frustrated about China, and it seems to him that all Indian's problems are caused by China. It is funny that he complained about the bureaucracy in Europe, does he know that India has been ranked pretty bad in terms of bureaucracy for long time? His speech reaffirmed a lot of people's perception on India, that is, Indians are good in arguments, but not in actions

Estonians can play the role to resist Chinese further development? Fool me once!

OMG, talking about China but not a single Chinese in this debate. That Asian guy with American accent born in America is NOT chinese. Thumbs down for 1 sided debate.

Samir does not know what he is asking for when he wants Europe to be involved in the future of the Indo-Pacific.

That Indian speaker is very good at speaking "empty" talk/spinning things right n left all the time, roti prata style

Let's get the perspective right .Google, Facebook etc were allowed to go into China with 1 condition,China govt has the right to check its content/harmful activities. Facebook refused ,n withdrew on its own

The Indian guy is obsessed with China. His obsession made him sound subjective and biased.

EU needs to look after its interests and not be the vassal of the US.

If you grow fat, lazy, indolent and need a full time maid or guardian just to keep you alive don't blame your guardian or your housekeeper when he quits looking after your needs. If you are handicapped because you didn't take care of yourself when you could don't blame others for abandoning you.

Samir has that more freedom to express more than government appointed individuals. Samir presentation on Big Tech Digital sovereignty in Lowy institute australia is at next level. Indian voice is going globally, European Austrian thinker velina tchekorova , Canadian analyst cleo paskal giving indian voice on global platforms. People needs to know these Platforms and Dialogues are very important for india to give our perspective on any thing

Samir is on fire but confused with vague strategy to counter your enemy. His statements seem supporting only the west and not of his own. That will hurt yourself in the long run.

US China tension only one word summarize all "chicken" all in the State of shock! the rest not applicable. Don't underestimate the Chinese quest for excellencies. As for Western democracies it have been thrown under the bus long ago.

3rd speaker. Technology comes not from one country, technology is available all around. R&D plays a lot and countries with the more investment will contribute more.

Bravo China!!!

India is ignored , mostly because it’s just a $3 trillion economy. India needs to get to $15-$20 trillion by 2030s to get into the bigger table.

This is so low. You should not bad mouth somebody or some country without their participation.

It seemed that this is more about Autocratic China vs Democracy and that defending Democracy is so neccessary because its better .

Lol..quite a unbiased group of panelists 😂😂🤣. This kind of propaganda just to make some easy money is what makes this kind of debates worthless, unfruitful and not even a single sense of rationality

2nd speaker said a lot about China's action. Based on his logic, he did not explain why the US and allies have aircraft carriers?

The discussion looks great but lacks honesty in essence! Let me ask them: Would you have this discussion if China were a democratic country? (1) If you answer No: Are you sure? Do you remember The Plaza Accord signed on September 22, 1985, at the Plaza Hotel in New York City? Since this document was signed, Japan and Germany's economy stopped growing!!! Before this happened, both countries expanded significantly in terms of GDP and closed the gap with the US GDP... Didn't you think that the US deliberately forbid any country to grow and become a threat to the US no matter whether they are democratic or communist or monarchy or whatever? (2) If you answer Yes: That means YOU ARE RACIST

TO CONQUER IS SHOWING LOW MORALITY , XI JIN PING !!! YOUR TERRITORY IS THE BIGGEST BUT “NOT” THE BEST , SO TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN TERRITORY AND MAKE YOUR ROBOTIC PEOPLE BE MORE HUMAN , MORE HAPPY AND WEALTHY .

These panels have the common sense as nowadays America, how to containing China!

That’s the problem, these people never go to China and lived China. They don’t know China’s culture.

This is quite a low quality conference. 1:27:39 this guy's talk is based on ridiculous imagination

Old people are for thousand years valued as treasure in China.

Complain China, complain and complain continuously. Conclusion of this garbage discussion.

Samir breaks it down pretty good.

Sameer saran brings in such an unique point of view.

Which country has the highest percentage of population in poverty? India!!!!!!!

So, Samir, what is Emperor Modi doing?

**Well, why not comply with the Organizer's in a fairly, friendly, honest mutual, reasonably way when at such debate / discussing like this publicity on an international issues. Each person is invited (I believe) should have a certain level of educational and specialty, no matter where you come from and what to bring in your body.** **In general, we could not accept and so disappointed with the two men on the right side, where he (& both) were very narrow-minded, extreme personalism and selfishness ... They even despise everyone in the hall, ignored do not admit that they are outdated in the worldview as well as great achievements of changing through contributions and active cooperation with each other voluntary and freely among the countries regardless geopolitical as China - PRC globally etc.** **In particular, the Indian voice man is so arrogantly, impolite, selfish .... by deliberately loudly speaking because of unknown reason .... angrily from inside out to the scary face _ Assuming, he's in a political fundraising front of some villagers and teaching students in the classroom as in India. There is no doubt, this man is absolute least of family orientation as well as uneducated formally.**

Indian view the world from the standpoint of China? ?!you mean from the standpoint of US😂

Just look at the title of the conference, it is very political, thus not able to see the accurate geopolitical picture.

29:00 Your whole premise was built on "imagine", sir. I can imagine the Chinese taming Godzilla and use it on the Martians, therefore we can't trust China.

41:52 Curious phrasing. What has China conquered?

Thanks all guys! BUT THE SOUND !!! PERFECT...CONGRATS FOR YOU GUY!!!!! From Curitib/Brazil.

Samir sir slayinggg! 😎

Are you saying why China is moving so fast in everything? Study its history. There is no end for China's progress.learn from her.

Shame on Sameer. He is inviting same people to Indo pacific for another colonisation. It seems that India hasn't learnt a lesson yet. What a shame.

Why also suppress ASEAN? Western may not agree but your act is doing it. Eg a war on TAIWAN likely end up like Ukraine and lose Results weaker EU and Asean see the same. So pack up and stop interfering, Asean view.

Samir sir is a beast 💪

Europeans need to adjust to India as the superior power it is. The lady in the teal shirt admitted it, but self serving is indeed the first word that comes to mind, when I think of the EU. Please note the conspicuous absence of India, by all present, well into the first half of the more than an hour talk. How do you circumvent the elephant in the room and avoid talking about India when the world population and technology are both spoken of. It’s amazing. This is an Olympic gymnastic feat! So happy Sameer stepped in. But I wanted this said. India is the worlds largest and one of the youngest populace.

The Indian is acting like a crybaby

Thanks Samir for representing Indian views so well. Thanks for sharing this video

What about Europeans and Americans feeding the beast

I suggest all who can, spend one week in us, europe, and china, respectively. you will understand which part of the world is leading technology advancement. you will understand which people live in a digital world and which people still live in old time. the difference is like day and night. the mojority in the west are still under some kind of illusion. you may hear the "experts" talk about challenge from china. but until you experience it, you won't realize how laughable the discussion is. how does the future challenge the past? the public in the west doesn't even grasp the reality, all discussion therefore is almost pointless.

Even kids nowadays are China Experts. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yea well, the USA military belongs to the people 😂, it belongs to the state, same shit

U r replacing one evil with another

Being afraid makes you say stupid things.

Ya ya ya keep preaching. No one believe what ever you all try to spread. Period.

i am from India but this Samir guy is very cringy and he didn't projected India's true interest regarding china

Thank the speaker. from India

Erope like no man’s land. That means EU is a group of nation which interested only on Economic but nobody is responsible for security and military. That is the problem

Who were in the 80's went to China and did businesses with ❓❓❓❓ Now we are scared of China...

This place needs an independent source of power in case of natural disaster...most likely the whole pit will be covered with water...

We seeing increasing pressure on China from the West.

सर की बात सही है लेकिन योरोप की लीडरशिप आंख खुली रखकर नींद लेने में माहिर है...

If you're worried about dependence on external countries for anything, then the problem isn't do it yourself. The problem is that we spend TRILLIONS on weapons, and not a dime on figuring out how we can work together while ensuring respect & safety for all. This is the world Europeans have created a world of adversaries in which there are only winners & losers. This is not a human world. Humans historically win when other humans win, we wouldn't be here if that wasn't the case!

This presentation reveal in the insecurity and less confident to compete with advancing China. Spending all the time in critical of advancing country does not help your self advancement. China's achievement are result of competent leadership that drive the ingredients necessary that support continuous advancement.

Say whatever you like. Salute to president Xi. He has done a extremely good job in taking care of the interest of it citizen. Non on this planet came close to president Xi achievement!

Why does it sound like it's China's fault when other countries are lagging behind?

The panel talks about China without a voice from China. A big problem!

Dean Cheng Asia studies heritage Foundation studies Chinese military. He should study America first policy too which gives a raw deal to Europe Latin American India Australia. Europe and other countries are weak because they are making the juggernauts and behemoth of USA tech more stronger. Why are they putting blame on China raising alarms when China had a right policy to block these networks and companies . If they don't want suffer they should follow China model immediately and develop their own companies. It's started in India instead of Twitter there is koo . Amazon style jio etc

In the last 2 years India’s trade with China has increased. Today India trades more with China than it does with Europe.

It is funny to see the formal slaves(India) and formal colonial masters(EU) are discussing China.

The (USA) America call it "Liberation" instead of "Invasion". That was what US call it in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia and the list goes on... Why the double standard? Confused... Please enlighten. Genuine question... Instances of the United States "liberated" or overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government) China 1949 to early 1960s Albania 1949-53 East Germany 1950s Iran 1953 * Guatemala 1954 * Costa Rica mid-1950s Syria 1956-7 Egypt 1957 Indonesia 1957-8 British Guiana 1953-64 * Iraq 1963 * North Vietnam 1945-73 Cambodia 1955-70 * Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 * Ecuador 1960-63 * Congo 1960 * France 1965 Brazil 1962-64 * Dominican Republic 1963 * Cuba 1959 to present Bolivia 1964 * Indonesia 1965 * Ghana 1966 * Chile 1964-73 * Greece 1967 * Costa Rica 1970-71 Bolivia 1971 * Australia 1973-75 * Angola 1975, 1980s Zaire 1975 Portugal 1974-76 * Jamaica 1976-80 * Seychelles 1979-81 Chad 1981-82 * Grenada 1983 * South Yemen 1982-84 Suriname 1982-84 Fiji 1987 * Libya 1980s Nicaragua 1981-90 * Panama 1989 * Bulgaria 1990 * Albania 1991 * Iraq 1991 Afghanistan 1980s * Somalia 1993 Yugoslavia 1999-2000 * Ecuador 2000 * Afghanistan 2001 * Venezuela 2002 * Iraq 2003 * Haiti 2004 * Somalia 2007 to present Honduras 2009 * Libya 2011 * Syria 2012 Ukraine 2014 * 2014 - 2022 - 6 countries yet to verify. Pakistan 2022 *

I think China is going to rocket forward in tech. I just don't see them doing anything else, they have applied so much off themselves to the technocracy buildout that it's going to bear fruits and I'm off the personal opinion that there not going to be selfish with it. ( That's my belief ...) I think there focused on an inevitable egalitarian world.

Samir has to calm down and prep...if he will sounds like whinger...no one is going to take him seriously. Even though he is extremely smart and knowledgeable person.

The general understanding is that the Russian and Chinese were forced to try to de-Dollarize just for their own financial and commercial security.

The CCP must love these types of forum. They elaborate all the Chinese weaknesses upon which the Chinese, with intensive review, could address and rectify. They can only be encouraged to continue with “ impunity “ those things, which seem to benefit the Chinese and the envy of the West. Perhaps, if the likes of Samir would spend more of his intellect to identify which strategies deployed by the Chinese, would also advance India, if adopted, he would do India , China and indeed the world , a positive contribution. The CCP has done positively more for the Chinese people in 40 years than anyone could imagine. That is what Govts. are for ! The CCP made a lot of mistakes along the way, but without making these mistakes, China would not be benefitting in their current situation when longevity has virtually doubled. The greatest value in life is to live as long as possible, not withstanding all the challenges, which one confronts. China needed to change very dramatically, in order for it’s people to benefit to this extent. Why is the panel , not acknowledging that the sum total of the actions of the CCP, is good, when the client is the Chinese populace ? I cannot but be more surprised to the stupidity to the contention that the ageing population viewed by the CCP as a benefit to its challenge in governance, because Old People do not Protest. First, he is admitting that people do and can protest in China and unwittingly, and choosing to credit past protests, ultimately resulted in life longevity. Again, why do satisfied people still have the compunction to protest; when they are happy ? To them, they have arrived at their intended destination, most presumptuous for anyone else to decide that for them. To any panelist, you have to have a clear vision what is best for you, as opposed to what you want. Therefore, show some humility. Even you cannot alway choose the environment in your pursuit, why do you indulged in acrimonious condemnation of another’s success ?

The reason why China is the "go to" place for digital and green tech is because China is very good at it. Suppose USA had done what China has done, and USA was the "go to" place for digital and green tech. Would India going to Washington be better than India going to Beijing? Why? This sounds very racist to me. China would be a far better steward of the world order than USA has ever been. More *peaceful* . More *benevolent* . Has China fought a single war since 1979? Does China overthrow foreign regimes it doesn't like? Does China sanction countries that refuse to comply with its foreign policy? Does China interfere in foreign elections?

No one talks about India's building its own social media instead of relying so much on US's like Meta, Google etc You need to ask why when Indians have the mastery in IT.

Dean Cheng no matter we’re u born look in mirror see ur ancestors was ban from North America dare u to walk in New York San Francisco or southern state

Just because Samir said it doesn't make it so. Less than two decades ago, every expert projected India to outperform China in development because of their advantage in the English language. It is true. India did have a huge advantage over China. And Samir just proved it with his eloquence in maligning China.

China doesn't care European norm? Well how much the european cares the chinese norm.

Ms.Ulrike is right about the point where USA is eating up the tech sector of Europe

to the whole sapiens, it is such a wondeful thing to have a non western civilization to compete with and win over the western civilization. I do hope India follows china soon.

i dont know why people applaud for Mr samir. he is chating China, chinese or else europe. where does not concentrate what we are doing from our side. i dont feel he is having healthy voice for our society. who can agree with this ...hmm

Excellent discussion... Samir Saran was like; Guys, you don't get it, you're too Late, Slow and Lethargic.

When you have an Indian participant so emotionally anti-China, you no longer see the situation rationally and objectively to benefit India's interest. India needs to be friends to all and not become a victim of the divide and rule of the West as it has been. Increased hostility with nuclear neighbours like China and Pakistan (and for the West, Russia too) is never good economically and militarily. Best these heightened hostilities will benefit the West hugely.

Samir Saran's speech was very anti-China with a scary complete vengeance and hatred sentiment, as if the Chinese had killed his parents. He has scared me, to see he is in a position to be invited to give an influential speech. (that produces conflict sedition of hatred).

Aging population don’t protest. CCP prefer aging people? Smart for both of you. If Chinese has opponents like these, what a wonderful world….btw, Chinese government encourages young couples to have 2nd child and more.

The last part by Cheng on the Ant group IPO and ccp preferring aging society is totally bs.

38:36 The United States also does not have a national army. The army in the United States is a constitutional army. It is loyal to and supportive of the United States Constitution because the Constitution is the bedrock upon which the state is built. In China, the CPC is the bedrock upon which the state is built. The Communist Party of China is the Chinese analogue of the American Constitution and the PLA is loyal to and supportive of the CPC because that is what keeps the country together and therefore it is what is in the best interest of the Chinese people.

It is painful to watch the Indian to be so critical of China. Both countries suffered from the west and China managed to pull itself to gradually come out of the state of a developing country. I can understand the west tries to suppress this as it is not in there interest. India how ever, could benefit from the cooperation with China and more ever the experience from China in how to compete with the formal colonizers. So far no country except for China has managed to really emerge.