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Flat Beat Synth Tutorial (Korg MS-20) 

Alex Ball
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Following my Daft Punk synth tutorial, a number of people sent me messages asking for a demonstration of Mr Oizo's "Flat Beat" which was done on a Korg MS-20 and an Akai S1000.
In the video we look at the principals of setting up that sound and why I concluded that he likely created it from a composite of samples, rather than in one pass.
Charles Ferraro's great explanation of the unusual bi-polar nature of EG2 on the Korg MS-20 is here: • MS-20EX pt.2-3 Envelop...
Many thanks for watching and for your ongoing support.
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@bunuel3333
@bunuel3333 5 лет назад
GOOD JOB ALEX BALL. almost there! bravo.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
The man himself! Are you able to tell me what I missed?
@bunuel3333
@bunuel3333 5 лет назад
good synth sound - good filters and stuff BUT you missed the GROOVE baby !
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Ah yeah, agree definitely not quite got the right vibe. Needs more sausage! Can you confirm you sampled it and cut it up? Or was it one take? Thanks for taking the time to drop by, that's very cool of you!
@bunuel3333
@bunuel3333 5 лет назад
I sampled small bits (akai S1000) and recreated the groove on my sequencer (back in the says it was demo version of cakewalk express!!) cheers !
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Awesome. Thank you so much! We salute your skills.
@I967
@I967 9 месяцев назад
This is much more complicated than I expected. Such a simple sounding tune, but in reality it's a composition. Thank you for this!
@ZeroSpectra
@ZeroSpectra 5 лет назад
I was absolutely obsessed with this song when it came out, I tried to recreate that sound on just about every synth I bought in the early 2000s, I never realized it was an MS20, but it makes so much sense now that I've seen it done.
@StudiokillersOfficial
@StudiokillersOfficial 4 года назад
Goldie Foxx: Love this! The attention to detail in the opening video footage wobble is genius.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 4 года назад
Cheers!
@DivKid
@DivKid 5 лет назад
always love the resonant high pass bass boost trick.
@HAZARDOUS88
@HAZARDOUS88 5 лет назад
That intro and Hotdog cigar is so brilliant lol
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Cuba's finest.
@1stapproach
@1stapproach 5 лет назад
Following your Daft Punk synth tutorial this is the second one I discovered, and it is as amazing as the first. I see long nights with little sleep coming when I will have to start digging and trying all of those... :-)
@raistaparta
@raistaparta 5 лет назад
Thank you! This is great. I knew the Flat Beat bassline was sampled but didn’t realize how much of a collage it is.
@epicon6
@epicon6 5 лет назад
Finally bought an MS-20 Mini and got to experience this in person :) thank you again for this video! Flat Beat and Oizo’s whole Analog Worms Attack album is one of my absolute favorites!
@MrMacs90
@MrMacs90 5 лет назад
Appreciate the hotdog cigar :)
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Had to be done.
@ZethKeeper
@ZethKeeper 4 года назад
I'm a genuine fan of your vintage color grading, Alex.
@edjwise
@edjwise 5 лет назад
When Futuremusic was talking to Mr.Oizo about making the flat beat track he talked about how he approached the MS20 as something to sample and said he spent hours getting the LFO timing right. He used an S1000 iirc
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Thank you - that would make sense!
@edjwise
@edjwise 5 лет назад
@@AlexBallMusic Looks like November 1999 issue. you can see the cover here, Im not sure about the issue number or how to find it. imgur.com/a/nMVd3eq
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks. I'll have to see if that's archived somewhere.
@firestarter5205
@firestarter5205 5 лет назад
Alex Ball If you find it, please pin it in the comments!
@gregbrookman
@gregbrookman 5 лет назад
I remember reading that article too and him talking about taking loads of samples from the MS20 into the Akai.
@ReubenSound
@ReubenSound 5 лет назад
Man, you're so productive! Great sound from the MS20, it sounds phenomenal through my headphones. The MS10 could really do with the extra EG. Another way the filter could be rhythmically modulated is with an external signal into the filter frequency input jack.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Cheers Reuben. Ah yes, didn't think of trying that. The irony is that I tried the patch out on a VST and it was incredibly easy to do! Yet doing it on the identical synth he did it on, not so much. Be interested if you can nail it on the MS10?
@romainsegaud1180
@romainsegaud1180 5 лет назад
I had high expectations on this flat beat. That's perfect ! Well done Mr Ball \o/
@WangleLine
@WangleLine 5 лет назад
Now I know why my music sounds like trash. It's the lack of sausage.
@GodWeenSatan
@GodWeenSatan 3 года назад
Weiner
@dreamhyperdrive
@dreamhyperdrive 2 года назад
I think the MS 20 is the best synthesizer there's so many things it can do! I have the MS 20 mini and it's so much fun! 😀 thanks very much for the video by the way and it was very informative 👍
@KoltronZer0
@KoltronZer0 5 лет назад
Dude hell yess I have always wondered how this song was made, I really appreciate you making this!
@Ow_ee
@Ow_ee 5 лет назад
Awesome mate! Just bought an ms20 mini and flat beat was a deciding factor!
@Citracid
@Citracid 7 месяцев назад
With the korg MS20 vst is the easiest way to behave the original one without sampling since lfo can be key synced and parameters automated. Thank you for this quick tutorial.
@adpt_music
@adpt_music 5 лет назад
Great video. Love your explanations and getting straight to the point. Can't wait to try this on my MS-20.
@keeganmurrell5638
@keeganmurrell5638 5 лет назад
Hey Man, please keep on uploading. Your music and style is so flipping inspiring! I even went and bought a mini lab mk 2! One day I hope to make sick stuff like you do!
@essenceoftheanimal
@essenceoftheanimal 10 месяцев назад
f'ing great! and the feeling you must have got when you told the deli you wanted some hotdogs (for such an obscure reason) must have been priceless! nice work!!
@stoatystoat174
@stoatystoat174 Год назад
This tune speaks to the core of my bones 🤗. thanks for having a good look at it
@KimStennabbCaesar
@KimStennabbCaesar 5 лет назад
Great tutorial. It very well shows that you don't have to complicate things. Keep it basic folks.
@soulandfire9252
@soulandfire9252 4 года назад
I used to do the Flat Beat riff on my Korg 700s, good emulation
@iKiWY
@iKiWY 5 лет назад
This, this I love, I absolutely love
@Neverkilltime
@Neverkilltime 5 лет назад
Great video! This song will always hold a special place in my heart 👊🏼 much nostalgia lol
@kennethwedmorelund6449
@kennethwedmorelund6449 4 года назад
The sausages and head-banging-video is such a brilliant "easter egg" !!!!!
@danpreston564
@danpreston564 5 лет назад
The envelope behaviour on the MS20 mini is totally different. It’s true that a zero sustain is the same as the set level of the cut off but as you turn the sustain up on the Mini the cut off drops, and by the time you reach full sustain it’s the equivalent of moving the cutoff from 5 down to about 3.5. The envelope behaviour will start at a lower level as you increase the sustain but will return to that start point, not to zero volts. I think. Confusing. Another good video, btw. 😀
@britain2brasil
@britain2brasil 5 лет назад
Been wondering exactly this for about a week , 🙏🏻. Nicely broken down bro.
@NaviRetlav
@NaviRetlav 5 лет назад
I love your tutorials. Please do more thing's like this. Maybe next time something from The Prodigy or Boards of Canada ?
@Gavinshortall543
@Gavinshortall543 5 лет назад
+1 for boards
@CharlesFerraro
@CharlesFerraro 5 лет назад
Daaaang thank you for the shoutout! 1:30 A way to possibly check if a sound is sampled would be to chop out the phrase in question, flip it's polarity, and align it with a segment containing the same phrase. The idea is that if they cancel, you have a sample. I've had okay results with this while trying to isolate tracks. It's not full proof, and many factors can come into play like master bus compression making the same phrase sound different depending on instrumentation for example. All that said, we can assume you're right that Oizo sampled a phrase and looped it. No need to go through the strenuous effort to check. All in all another excellent tutorial, Alex. Great editing on both the camera work and recreating Flat Beat!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Cheers Charles. Shout out was entirely relevant and useful! Sample - Yep, that's a good trick. Slightly different question here, it's definitely a one bar loop, but it was whether the notes within that one bar were all individual samples recorded one at a time and stitched back together. (Rather than performed in one pass).
@CharlesFerraro
@CharlesFerraro 5 лет назад
Ah ya I see what you’re saying. Yeah it’s surprising, as another commenter pointed out, your vid proves that it’s much more of a collage than you’d expect.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Amazingly, Quentin Dupieux (Mr Oizo) has actually commented on this video and confirmed it was sampled into an Akai S1000 and sequenced in Cakewalk Express. So now we know!
@CharlesFerraro
@CharlesFerraro 5 лет назад
I wonder if it's not an increase in the LFO rate then, but rather rapid note retriggering that makes up that fourth bar of the phrase.
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 5 лет назад
Utterly delightful!
@reaktiv1408
@reaktiv1408 5 лет назад
You nailed it! Thank you for sharing, I ll try on my neutron, might sound close
@miscible21
@miscible21 5 лет назад
Dude, more of this please!
@epicon6
@epicon6 5 лет назад
Thaaaaaank you for making this!! You made my day!
@zink9698
@zink9698 2 года назад
that spot on as you can be
@drjazz7278
@drjazz7278 5 лет назад
Brilliant video again. Thanks Alex
@MarshalArnold
@MarshalArnold 5 лет назад
Nice work! Learned a few things about my MS-20! Many thanks 😁👍
@RussArteaga
@RussArteaga 5 лет назад
I love that this popped up on my recommend vids!!
@onni9472
@onni9472 5 лет назад
Very good cover
@cnltaf4532
@cnltaf4532 4 года назад
Love ya´ channel, it is full of positive energy ;)
@fishforever960
@fishforever960 4 года назад
Good job
@codyharper3824
@codyharper3824 5 лет назад
Would you be down for doing a video for the layman on what the acronyms stand for, and their function? (e.g. LFO, VCO, ADSR, ect.) Really dig the channel, amazing videos!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Hey Cody, glad you enjoyed it. Justin DeLay at Reverb did a series exactly like that. Just explaining one element at a time. Here's the first episode: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xyVFIPtOsm8.html
@aphexon.
@aphexon. 5 лет назад
Cody Harper Lfo- low frequency oscillator, is a signal that can shape/modulate sweeps or rhythmic pulses usually below 30/20 Hz, you can think of it like a phaser or tremolo effect. Vco- voltage controlled oscillator, is controlled by a voltage input, that determines the frequency, Vco are used for Fm- frequency modulation, / Pm phase modulation. Adsr- stands for attack release sustain delay, (envelope) and describe how the sound changes over time, in volume, frequency etc.
@dextrodemon
@dextrodemon 5 лет назад
LFO = light fantastic orchestra VCO = virtuous conduct orchestra, adsr = angelic divine shining rochestra. they're japanese ELO cover bands
@codyharper3824
@codyharper3824 5 лет назад
@@AlexBallMusic Much appreciated!
@NeuronalAxon
@NeuronalAxon 5 лет назад
YMO = Yellow Magic Orchestra
@KristerNielsen
@KristerNielsen 5 лет назад
You got a thumbs up just because of that intro :P
@PC0067
@PC0067 Год назад
De la balle. Bravo. Je me suis toujours questionné sur ce son sans me prendre la tête mais une réponse est sympa. Merci
@VCVRackIdeas
@VCVRackIdeas 5 лет назад
nice synth tutorial man! love this
@ericriggsbee
@ericriggsbee 5 лет назад
Love this tune! Thanks for the video!
@rdean150
@rdean150 5 лет назад
New to your channel and easy sub, good stuff right here! Out of curiosity, is that a mini or vintage? I dont own one but those keys look full sized. And likewise, those sliders look bigger than my SH-01A, is that a 101 you're casually reaching over? Fantastic video btw, can't wait to check out your other content!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Thanks. That's an original MS-20 Mk I from 1978 and an original SH-101 below it. All my synths are vintage except my Prophet REV2.
@rdean150
@rdean150 5 лет назад
@@AlexBallMusic Mad props. And you play them with impressive skill and aplomb as well. Don't know how it took me so long to find this channel!
@StephenMcLeod
@StephenMcLeod 3 года назад
This video made me buy an MS-20.
@amfimoll9428
@amfimoll9428 5 лет назад
Cool video. Thanks a lot!
@LooneyBinJim303
@LooneyBinJim303 5 лет назад
Top skills another top video.Thanks
@shayusu8317
@shayusu8317 5 лет назад
.....A raw hot dog? *Subscribed*
@antongracon3345
@antongracon3345 4 года назад
Almost all hot dogs are fully cooked when you buy them in the package. He'll be all right.
@Embolder
@Embolder 4 года назад
Wish I had even 1% of that skill. Respect.
@comicKkrakK
@comicKkrakK 5 лет назад
Love it. Nice work
@rosssmethurst6942
@rosssmethurst6942 5 лет назад
Great video and explanation 😀
@kimfromnewyork
@kimfromnewyork 3 года назад
Superb!!!
@SjN7HETIK
@SjN7HETIK 4 года назад
thank u friend, u nice n very brave, impossible to get exactly the same, so u made the best possible imo
@auxorion
@auxorion 3 года назад
You know, I always avoid doing wub wub sounds with synths that can't tempo sync to the DAW.. but watching this, I realize that's stupid. I can just edit the parts together in the DAW! (I also hadn't realized how good the MS-20 is for these sounds... very cool)
@colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
that what i do when i make dubstep
@Eric-LB
@Eric-LB 5 лет назад
Amazing! Thanks for sharing
@conrad3k
@conrad3k 5 лет назад
Wow really well done!
@janterlyn4343
@janterlyn4343 5 лет назад
Hey Alex, just found your channel! Thanks so much for all these videos, you're insight into synths as well as general music production is so awesome. What synth would you recommend as the first synth someone should pick up? Or maybe just a great all round synthesizer to get started? Budget doesn't have to be cheap. Greets from Belgium
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Thanks Jan. Greetings from the UK. Synths - depends largely what you're trying to do as they all have particular things they do. That said, I'd say a simple polysynth with a knob and slider for each parameter would be the best place to start. Can be analogue or could be DSP. As for monosynths, best place to start is the SH-101! It has one of everything (oscillator, envelope, filter, LFO) and it just sounds great.
@onkelberra3166
@onkelberra3166 5 лет назад
Love that classic. Nice sounds you get out of that ms20 :D
@AsteroidKiller
@AsteroidKiller 5 лет назад
Sooo good! Allmost forgot about this song 😍👌
@natukashii1
@natukashii1 5 лет назад
Great work! Is the bassline rhythm right though? It feels like it's all played an 8th note late in relation to the drums. Eg- the 2nd note of the bassline should come an 8th note before the snare hit. Not at the same time as it. Geeky enough for you?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Think it starts on the right beat, it's just the rhythm of mine isn't quite the same as the original. It's a degrees of shuffle type question and mine is a little too straight.
@retrosound72
@retrosound72 5 лет назад
haha yeah :D So cool Alex!
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Cheers Marko! 😉
@SwanAudio
@SwanAudio 5 лет назад
Awesome videos mate
@lightningslim
@lightningslim 5 лет назад
I wish I still had my MS-20!
@watercolourmark
@watercolourmark 4 года назад
All I seem to do these days is watch online video of a man with a sausage in his hand?!
@auxorion
@auxorion 3 года назад
Who had a sausage in their hand??? I think you're watching the wrong video.
@watercolourmark
@watercolourmark 3 года назад
@@auxorion your eyesight is the wurst.
@ninjak13
@ninjak13 5 лет назад
If you made a video with tutorials for music from ed banger records you would make my day
@emilyschmanks
@emilyschmanks 5 лет назад
great video. how many years of experience do you have?
@vr4ever645
@vr4ever645 4 года назад
Thumbs up for the intro!
@imothy
@imothy Год назад
to me it sounds like instead of playing with the LFO he's got the pattern sequenced out and he's playing with the envelope attack, but yes its probably sampled. Also it has a nice late shuffle to it.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic Год назад
The man himself confirmed it was sampled and chopped in this very comments section.
@Gunzee
@Gunzee 4 года назад
I have the single cassette, saved my dinner money for it. It's in a paper sleeve, thick paper but just paper. I really disliked those singles, it gave such a cheap feeling. A very nice remake, it's really close. I've not heard this track for >15 years, guess it's time to dig that tape out. Searching UT is too easy
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 5 лет назад
really good tutorial serie !!
@adamwhite1934
@adamwhite1934 3 года назад
I don’t know if anyone else mentioned it in the comments, but I remember reading in a music magazine that it wasn’t sampled and cut up, he spent an entire day recording lfo knob twiddling to get the right sound.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 года назад
Mr Oizo himself is the pinned comment. He confirms it was chopped up.
@adamwhite1934
@adamwhite1934 2 года назад
Just come back to this to reproduce on my new full size and saw you replied. Damn, all these years I thought he spent all day recording slightly off lfo wubs and picked the one that worked. Guess you really can’t trust the media.
@herontotem1065
@herontotem1065 5 лет назад
Yeaaah! For me, to get a better "Quentin Dupieux" sound, you have to replace your sausage by a STEAK (one of the great Quentin Dupieux's movies)! :p
@Vandalsounds
@Vandalsounds 5 лет назад
Awesome vid! Thnx!
@Joejoegopro
@Joejoegopro 5 лет назад
but how do you make that french kick and snare so punchy
@kalebtowne
@kalebtowne 4 года назад
I wonder if all ms20s sound different like all roland tr808s sound different
@Cadesworth
@Cadesworth 4 года назад
This song, man- Awesome bass synth, painfully thin drums which sound like they're coming from a tin can.
@soviut
@soviut 5 лет назад
Could you not use an external LFO that is clock-synced and use it's voltage to control the filter cutoff?
@johnnyboy2459
@johnnyboy2459 3 года назад
You need to patch in the sample and hold function plus some other bits to achieve the different speeds of the modulation
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 года назад
Well, funnily enough Mr Oizo himself is in the comment section saying he just sampled individual notes and snippets and then frankensteined it together. In terms of sample and hold, the modulation is clearly from the waveshapes available from the LFO. There isn't a way to patch the sample and hold output into the CV in of the LFO on the MS-20 either. What source would the sample and hold be sampling from and where would it be routed?
@demokid2000
@demokid2000 5 лет назад
Greate video! :) The MS-20 is a versatile little sizer. :D
@RichRobinson
@RichRobinson 10 месяцев назад
Bravo!
@MuhnMaxVicinelli
@MuhnMaxVicinelli 4 года назад
Nice!
@kowbowski954
@kowbowski954 5 лет назад
Hey can you help? What do you use for a speaker if I wanted to play this outloud just like playing a guitar through a amp but synth to what?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
A synth like the MS20 has a 1/4 inch jack output. You can plug it into a guitar amp, PA system, mixing desk or audio interface.
@kowbowski954
@kowbowski954 5 лет назад
@@AlexBallMusic ok awesome thanks for the respond back. Really do appreciate it. And do you think a pa system would work the best?
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Depends how loud you want it and where you're using it. I use mine in the studio, so just listen back on my monitors.
@sokoleski
@sokoleski 5 лет назад
exxelent presentation.. cheers
@bigcactus3996
@bigcactus3996 Год назад
Bruhh you are a genious thats spot on
@juniqbeatz1323
@juniqbeatz1323 2 года назад
they didn't use the lfo. they played the speed changing wobble by hand while controlling the filter
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 2 года назад
If you read the pinned comment which is Quentin Dupieux himself, he confirmed that he recorded samples from his MS-20 into an Akai S-1000 and sequenced them on his computer using a demo version of Cakewalk. So it wasn't performed live at all, as I suspected.
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton 4 года назад
Nailed it
@yrussq
@yrussq 5 лет назад
WOW! That had my fastest like! :) Nad Quentin in the comments! ANd everybody happy! What a wonderful orthodox Christmas! :)) MC and HNY from Russia! Shweeet! :))
@skiddzie9526
@skiddzie9526 5 лет назад
2:28 "you'll only hear this if you got headphones or speakers" yeah that's usually how it works.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 5 лет назад
Haha, you know what I mean ;)
@RBRT02
@RBRT02 5 лет назад
best comment ever
@fritsvanzanten3573
@fritsvanzanten3573 5 лет назад
Some people have an ESP guitar
@mono6839
@mono6839 5 лет назад
Hehe very nice :) Thx for that !
@valentin8626
@valentin8626 5 лет назад
gonna buy da synth
@marcoxmas89
@marcoxmas89 5 лет назад
Now I wanna challenge you... :D You need to do the Gary's lead synth patch of the " regular show - gary's synthesizers battle" That lead is amazing hehe
@Inception1338
@Inception1338 2 года назад
Dope!
@ritamasefield9225
@ritamasefield9225 5 лет назад
Love it 👏
@mynameisChesto
@mynameisChesto 3 года назад
I'd love to hear Rock 'n Roll on the MS20 by Daft Punk
@wingflanagan
@wingflanagan 5 лет назад
Well hot DOG! Are you WIENing us off your other videos with all these tutorials? Because I have to be FRANK, I'd like to see FURTER episodes on light music as you get the chance. I don't want to be a WEENIE about it, though; this is not the WURST thing you've made. Quite the opposite - you can definitely cut the MUSTARD with electronic instruments. I just hope you can KETCHUP on your other projects some point, too. I RELISH the thought of another music analysis or re-creation of a film score cue. Have to ROLL with the punches, I guess. Come to think of it, something on German electronica or KRAUTrock might make a nice tutorial, too! :-)
@DarkSideofSynth
@DarkSideofSynth 5 лет назад
Are you sure your real name is not Lord of the Puns? ;)
@KILLAGORILLA7000
@KILLAGORILLA7000 5 лет назад
Wing Flanagan haha well played sir
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