Fleet Friday - Training Tiller 

For real

Love the mustache ❤

They look very cool up there...seen lots of pictures of Seattle tillers.

Spent several years with AMR Seattle assigned to the Seattle Fire contract. Spent most of my time in Batt 2 and Batt 7. Loved the tillers. I was always amazed at some of the places those things went. We had Mercedes Sprinter ambulances and sometimes we had a hell of time getting into a location only to find out that a tiller was on scene. Tiller trucks are pretty freaking amazing.

@@mikel9567 Nice! I'm in Battalion 7 myself, love it. See y'all all the time on our aid calls.

Great suggestion, we'll arrange that when the new tiller arrives.

I grew up around mostly Pierce and a few rare Boardman's, but this Seagrave definitely brought back that nostalgia! - Eric

@@SouthMetroFireRescuePIO I love the fact that the tiller from California. The side red lights at the front, just below the windows go on, but do not flash. They're steady burn lights, which is a requirement in California, under Section 25252 of the California Vehicle Code. At least one steady burn red light at the front of every authorized emergency vehicle there. The steady burns alone is enough to scream 'California'.

Instead of ladders? What?? Do you mean a rear or mid mount ladder truck? Because they still use ground ladders 🤨

It's one of my personal favorites. Great design and appearance! - Eric

Delivery is expected in May and as soon as production begins Pierce will send us photos to share.

I feel Brett Pickford is on here more then Eric anymore 😂😂

@@RealZachAttack28 No kidding. First the snow ride along, then the day in the life, now a fleet, and probably a few in between 😭😭😭

@@bm7151and the fleet friday on tender 34

The current staffing model will remain the same with a Captain or Lieutenant, Engineer and 2 Firefighters.

Yes, All the collapse equipment will be moved from Rescue-34 to Collapse-45 and the rest of the equipment will fit onto the new Tiller.

South Metro employees may choose between the Phenix First Due, Cairns 880 and 1044, Morning Pride Ben II or a leather if they chose to purchase one.

Currently the plan is if the Tiller goes out of service, Station-34 will go back into one of the reserve straight-Sticks and make do without a Rescue, long term they plan on using Dive-31 as a general-purpose specialty-reserve that will serve as a reserve for Dive, Hazmat. Rescue & Collapse, and it that case they would operate as they currently do with a Tower & Rescue cross-staffed

The new tiller will be staffed with 4 total personnel. A Captain or Lieutenant, Engineer and 2 Firefighters. A reserve Ladder or Tower will be used in place of the tiller and a reserve special operations vehicle may accompany those to carry the additional technical rescue equipment. Yes, the new tiller will be able to use a pull through bay.

Yes, and the new Tiller will also be a Quint. It will have all the capabilities of the Tower it's replacing.

Yes, the new tiller will have a pre-piped waterway.

Indeed it does! It spent its career at Torrance and likely had similar specifications to LAFD.

Great question! There are currently no plans to add a second Engineer. The senior Firefighter will be the tiller operator.

Exactly!

The current Tower 34 staffing of 4 including a Captain/Lieutenant, Engineer and 2 Firefighters. The senior "delta" Firefighter will be the tiller operator.

The new Tiller will be a Quint and will continue to operate as the first due Suppression for Station-34’s first Due.

The tiller will be a stand alone quint, but if this training tiller is ever needed as a last resort reserve, it will likely be paired with Tender 34 like a light force.

one of their Straight-Stick Aerials will act as a Reserve.

The current plan is for this apparatus to remain as a training vehicle. In the event the new tiller is out of service, a reserve Ladder or Tower will be used, and it could be supplemented with a special operations support vehicle to carry additional equipment.

Yes, this is South Metro's first tractor drawn aerial.

Pierce Velocity

that was my guess just was not sure.

Yes, all SMFR Aerials are Quints as a requirement as all SMFR stations are single company stations.

Yes, the new tiller will feature a 1,500 gpm pump and a 300 gallon water tank with 3 cross lays and a small 5 inch supply hose bed.

Yes we so need a fleet Friday on the new Hazmat 38 the current “decon” is stationed at 17’s and there has already been a fleet Friday for it along with the old hazmat 38 (new hazmat 17) as well

@@RealZachAttack28 I get tower ladder 18 and Decon unit with confused each other where there stationed at all but if see the stations then I can tell you what units are inside that station.

Yes! The Hazmat Team is getting all of the equipment organized on HM38 and once it's done, we'll share a Fleet Friday.

Yes! SMFR has a new MedCat on order which will be used for snow response. There are several pick up trucks with plows that are sometimes used as well, next time they're placed in service we will feature them.

Ok sounds great thank you

The 2 remaining 2006 Sutphens will likely remain in the reserve fleet for a few more years. They are workhorses!

None currently they are getting one as a joint replacement for Tower & Rescue-34.

Currently the only emergency response trailer is Collapse 45.

The new Tiller on order will likely be called Ladder-34 as it doesn’t have a bucket

Maybe call it Truck 34 to pay homage to your training apparatus' prior life as TFD Truck 96.@@Autofleet4429

​@@mborrett South Metro doesn’t use the callsign “Truck” in South Metro’s Dispatch System if it’s got a bucket it’s a Tower, if it hasn’t got a bucket it’s a Ladder, for example South Metro’s neighbour West Metro who South Metro has a CAD-to-CAD Automatic Aid agreement with (I.e. South Metro can dispatch West Metro’s units themselves based on who’s closer and vice versa) calls their Aerial unit at their Station-14 “Truck-14” however when it’s dispatched by South Metro it’s called “Tower-14”.

This is a 1994

@@SouthMetroFireRescuePIO ok thanks

No as it has no pump and tank.

It will likely remain as a training apparatus only. In a worst case scenario if it was needed as a reserve, Tender 34 could travel with it in a "light force" like arrangement.

@@SouthMetroFireRescuePIO ohhh so you guys are gonna do what LAFD does? They also have a lightforce, where a second engine snd tiller respond, nice

Only as a last resort after all over Reserve Aerials are unavailable.​@@emergencyresponsevideosand4423

It never hurts to ask, but the Q will stay on this apparatus. You can check out govdeals.com though, sometimes SMFR and other departments put surplus equipment on there for auction.

Yes, the new tiller will have a 1,500 gpm pump and a 300 gallon water tank.

Thank you.

Seagrave and some Pierce Dash designs from this era didn't have grilles. They definitely look odd by comparison to today's fleet.

Based on recent conversations there will likely be a diversified future aerial fleet at SMFR with a combination of rear and mid mount apparatus and some platforms.

For South Metro, the Primary reason for getting a Tiller is that South Metro plans on merging their Heavy-Rescue with the Tower at Station-34 and Tillers have more storage capacity than your regular Straight-Sticks.

The benefits are that it can turn on its own. It's not following the truck, as he said it can turn in 32 feet, the same as a smaller engine. They can make sharp turns, and turn around parked vehicles and objects, something a straight truck or a semi can not do. The back wheels of the tiller steer, they are not fixed. So imagine pulling something, and having the ability to make the trailer back or move around something.

SMFR chose to purchase a tiller because it will allow us to combine the technical rescue apparatus into the aerial with so much compartment space. It's great for tight turns and highway responses which are common in Station 34's area.

A tiller helps firefighters get the big rig with the ladder through small streets, and it will serve as a rescue tiller too.

For South Metro, the Primary reason for getting a Tiller is that South Metro plans on merging their Heavy-Rescue with the Tower at Station-34 and Tiller have more storage capacity than your regular Straight-Sticks.

Because we carry more equipment, more hoses, and more ladders than most other countries. Our roads are also made for larger vehicles and are not as narrow. So yes they do need to be that large since they are carrying more, and do more.

I am no expert by any means. But have you watched a semi with a 53 foot trailer try to make turns, especially right turns and how the trailer starts cutting over the curb. Imagine if the rear wheels on the trainer could turn in the opposite direction, as they are making it. The rear wheels would swing out, clearing any obstacles, and making the turn much easier. That is what this apparatus will make it easier to do. Many streets, especially in metro areas, have tight streets, and regular tractor-trailers have difficulties maneuvering, but if they could have someone steer the rear wheels, it would make it much easier. Just my two cents.