Flesh and Blood is a Fighting Game 

You said the same words I said to myself half a year ago when I started preparing 😉. Thanks so much!!

Look i wanted to call it flash kick, but then a bunch of new players would come back in a month and say "what's a flash kick?? I only see somersault kick"

Fair enough. Still learning how to end videos. That's probably where a "like comment and subscribe!!!!!" Should go

Haha! There are a ton of videos to learn how to play. Felttable.com also has a tutorial against a robot!

Thank you so much! Yeah it's uncanny. Catch-up mechanics, combos, frame data, and that "never say die" feeling.

Hell yeah! It's good to know the tekken people are on my side, too! Tekken is the one fighting game I just...can't play haha. Not from lack of liking it mind you, the game is just so hard!

Tekken is GOATED.

Name?

Aye yo, you tryna jam on some t7??

He wasn't wrong! MK even more so in some ways because you can pick certain moves for fights!

Play UFS. It has an actual mortal combat set

100%! Part of the reason I have dedicated more time to FaB is this exact thing. While I love hitting buttons in a sequence, my reaction time isn't the best. I will say, though, that input skill is, in some ways, an overrated one. With a few good options and an excellent understanding of neutral, you can go much further than someone with perfect execution, but no understanding of positioning.

I'm so glad I could do that for you! That's what I've always dreamed of doing for people: put things they already know into words and expressions! Thanks!

You should definitely try it! You can pick up precon decks for most heroes for 10ish bucks. The "Commoner" format is absurdly cheap for a tcg and represents the heroes decently well. Good places to find decks are fabrary.net and fabdb.net.

Thank you! And I couldn't agree more.

Awesome!! I'm glad i could do that. I think alot of us have something to say about FAB and are only recently steering to figure out how to say it!

Haha I hope so! That's the goal. I knew there was a huge crossover!

You're welcome! Thanks for commenting. I hope you end up trying something! It's really an incredible game.

Spice8Rack and Rhystic Studies are my two primary inspirations! You nailed it.

@@gorganiantome I'm glad I found your channel before I decided to do it myself! Lol The FAB space desperately needs this content

@@austinshores819 Couldn't agree more. I had thought about it for so long. I even had started another channel where I was doing a lot of the same stuff other people were doing, but worse haha, and I just wasn't having fun with it. So I just "alright, you're either doing what you love to do or you're not a FAB content creator."

@@gorganiantome it's still such a young space to try and figure out, but there's plenty of room to carve your niche. I've been thinking about teaching myself the skills so I can make a blitz focused channel. It's all I really play since I'm a Shiyana main. Definitely happy I found your stuff and you took the plunge, can't wait to see where you go!

You're welcome! And I hope you do. The game is so fun.

Thanks DMArmada! I'm so glad you liked it. A bit starstruck here, not going to lie 😂

Haha! MAJINBAE ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME? ME, RU-vid GUY. Thanks man!

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 😁

It's great, right? It's been so fun to see everyone start considering this. What terms do you borrow from the FGC?

@gorganiantome well, the first thing that comes to mind is okizeme when referring to having and maintaining tempo by forcing your opponent to want block or otherwise reducing them to smaller hand limiting their response options (and wake-ups by extension) How we have been treating Uzuri, rather than being a balance character, we have been experimenting with her as a 50/50 character Leveraging her ability and stealth reactions and go wide potential to create situations where our opponent has to guess right on how to block or be punished for blocking. Wanting to create an okizeme situation where the opponent is now in a guessing game to get out of it and looping it until we get a hand that prevents this or they guess right and can reset to neutral or challenge and steal a turn. The biggest problem with this playstyle is that the balance is incredibly delicate with the potential of doing nothing hands existing. Getting the ratios right will be key in this style of deck. However, it is quite satisfying to do stuff like bluff a switch in to instead double spike a stealth card. Or present a go again attack into stealth swap Some of the 5 card hands can have some very difficult to read play lines for the opponent, and it creates some fun guessing games where if they choose poorly, they get punished. Think Milia from guilty gear, with many of the same problems and a bit less reliability in what tools she has access to at any given time. Another fun aspect of the bluff game in this playstyle is you can get hands that support both and if your opponent is not making you block, it is possible to play less than optimal turn cycles to keep the loop up. It just looks awkward as heck when you do it.

More to come! I'm so happy you enjoyed it!

Thanks so much for your story! I'm so so happy I could help you develop a deeper understanding of the game!

Sounds good!

This video was birthed from my trying to do exactly as you! It's natural that the game which birthed so much of TCG terminology would be applied to FAB. Hell, we still call it "the graveyard" after all haha. But for me, it just never felt right to call a fatigue deck control!

@@gorganiantome I believe Dromai and Prism lean more for control decks and not fatigue, because they are not fighting to diminish you but to actually create a board big enough to kill with death by thousand cuts, opponents spent cards either going at you or in a balance not to let them taking control of the game.

Bring your Magic cards to fighting events, and look into Flesh and Blood.

Agree to disagree then!

Thank you! And 1000% yes! Count me in!

Right??? I'm always amazed how deep this rabbit hole goes when I would sit down to write more of the script for this video. I kept saying "well, damn, I need to talk about that, too." It's why I ended up throwing in that bit toward the end about "FAB writ Fighting Game Part 2," because there was just no way I could get it all.

@@gorganiantome I'm really looking forward to the Part 2. I think this is gonna improve deck building for a lot of folks, myself included, by framing it a little differently. Really love the content dude, thanks for your time and effort!

Awesome! I'm so glad to hear it. Yeah try out felttable.com to learn the rules. You play against an ai and it's wonderful. But yeah I've played SOME MB. They're really fun! MBAACC blows my mind with its complexity 😂

You are correct 😂

More on the way! Thanks so much for the really kind words! Now I just have to figure out how to top this! haha

😂 I'll take your word for it

@@gorganiantome Jokes aside, though, that's just p much how YuGiOh works. Every archetype (The entire game is pretty much just archetypes/tribes only, goodstuff is kinda dead) is more or less designed to activate every Once per Turn effect on every turn they have, p much (Of course, this is like saying "every magic deck is designed to spend its mana on every turn cycle", its a bit of an oversimplification all in all), and the Once per Turn clauses are the only real limiting resource keeping decks from going infinite. Thus, the ceiling of the great majority of decks is almost deterministically decided, as, thanks to the availability of deck interation (Tutors, sends from deck to GY, summons from deck), you'd see every card name in the deck and use every one of its effects each turn, which means that the number of good cards/good effects in any archetype predetermines how many resources they have available to spend on any given turn (Most importantly turn one, given that yugioh is more or less combo mirrors) This also why cards that lack OPTs (We talk more of hard vs soft once per turns, but in modern yugioh, for all intends and purposes a soft once per turn might as well be no once per turn) are broken to high heaven and any time they're playable is kinda miserable. Decks already combo a whole fckin lot, giving them the option to loop effects and go near infinite isnt exactly fair if there isnt much of a cost to it I also find it interesting how in YuGiOh both Combo and Control decks are kind of the same thing, with different coats of paint. Combo tends to set up turn 1 some sort of very powerful set of interactions to prevent the opponent from doing anything meaningful, while Control tends to set up an advantage loop turn 1 that, if uninterrupted going into turn 3, will be almost impossible to beat. So, in a weird way, through different flavors, both types of deck just go "ensemble a key set of synergistic tools so that the opponent doesnt get to play the game" which is more or less what other TCGs would just call combo. (Of course, this is heavily format dependant, Tearlaments, Zoodiac, Tri-brigade, etc. were all format all stars as Midrange, but ykno, its a good way to simplify what Yugioh feels like to non-yugioh players)

Haha for that you'll have to ask a Smash aficionado. I'm sure they have a lot of the same archetypes, but I've never really dug deep into Smash enough to figure it out. I can ask my buddy and see what he says!

Crazy! I am continuously surprised, reading all these comments, how many people thought just like I did. Great minds!

You and me both! I played Magic for years and years, dropped it for fighting games, then went back to card games and eventually found FAB. This video has been in my head for so long.

I'm always amazed at how FAB can be simultaneously so simple and so complex. it's a marvel. And UFS is the My Hero Academia card game, right? I never tried it! Looks cool, though.

@@gorganiantome It's a bunch of different ips but my hero is the most well known currently. It had street fighter, soul calibur, kof and more way back in ufs days. They had variable hand sizes and health to simulate archtypes so grapplers would have low hand, but high health and beefy abilities for example

Huge praise! I gotta figure out how to top that haha! But thanks so much! That's very kind of you.

Can't stop won't stop! Thanks so much for the kind words!

Yes! For that exact play style I would HIGHLY recommend Uzuri or Nuu.

Thank you thank you! Incredibly kind words. I just gotta figure out how to top this one 😂

And the post-conversations playing out in the comments lol. Check out @noahrobinson4242's comment.

Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

That's what it transformed into, but it tried to have that escalation with the sacrifice system before.

FaB is Guilty Gear, Yu-Gi-Oh is Marvel. I hope this makes as much sense here as it does in my head.

Ygo is like if Arakune Vs Elphelt was a match up.

Yeah! I read another comment about this game in the comments! I want to try it now, especially if they add some more cards from the IPs I like like SF!

Hell yeah! I'm so glad to hear it. What do you normally play in Fighting Games? I can probably suggest a hero for FAB based on that!

@@gorganiantome In the beginning I was very much a Ken Masters kind of player but in my current age I am very much an open player that likes trying out different characters now. One minute I am into playing Chipp and the next I am into Ramlethal. Felicia, Q Bee and Sasquatch (Darkstalkers), Strider, Captain America and Spider-Man (All Marvel vs Capcom), Supergirl (Injustice 2), Striker and Noob Saibot (All Mortal Kombats), Terry Board, Athena and Vanessa (King of Fighters), Chipp, May and Ramlethal (Guilty Gear), Ken, Cammy, Sakura and Sean (All Street Fighters), every version of Link but mainly Toon Link and now I love Palutena (Smash Bros), Ukyo, Galford, Charlotte, (Samurai Shodown), Maxi, Nightmare/Siegfried, Cassandra/Sophitia (Soul Calibur) Hwoarang and Asuka (Tekken). Haha hope this wasn't an overload.

@@doublestarships646 Ummm...well based on that message, just go to felttable.com and try everyone haha! Because those are all so disparate from one another that it might actually hurt your search. I'd maybe say start with Fai, because he tracks so well to Chipp that you'll see the similarities immediately, then maybe move to Dori to get a shoto experience with some extra Oki options.

I have a rathe times article series on FaBxFGC already! You can go read them all now.

Yoshimitsu is dope af! And, per your question...not really. While the hero defines the identity of a Flesh and Blood deck, FaB plays literally *nothing* like Commander. Flesh and Blood is hypercompetitive, first of all, and is exclusively 1v1. There are no "lands" like in magic, and it's not a "singleton" game like Commander is. The game is very much played in the minutiae of blocking, attacking, and comboing, and those three things could not be more different from magic. In fact, those elements are SO different from magic, that I made "FaB is a Fighting Game" specifically so people would stop comparing FaB to Magic! Lol

Yeah it's not meant to be dismissive, I swear. I've just tried to play and watch the game from an academic standpoint and i still struggle to have any idea what's going on 😂

Congrats!! The vynnset carda I'm still missing should come in today!!!

Awesome! I'm so, so glad it helped you!

You also say Zangief funny and it makes me laugh lol

For sure! The visuals and the meta-feels of FAB are very much like an RPG where you gain gear and whatnot. But I still contend that it's much more a fighting game with the underlying mechanics of actually *playing* the game.

Well...all you gotta do is go pick up a blitz precon for FaB and head to your local game store to learn! haha but for real I'm glad you enjoyed the video and felt the same way as I!

I've played magic for over a decade. FaB is much closer in my experience. I don't think that means it's a better game. Just different. Have you tried FaB?

Haha! I'm very glad you enjoy her. The different archetypes, and what attracts people to those archetypes, is what makes such a fun and varied game for everyone!

I only hope i eventually get to make the "FAB PvE is Monster Hunter" some day! I LOVE MH. But yeah, I used to only play MTG, now I really only play FaB. I think it's proved itself worth a try!

While I think you're right that you use your life as a resource much more in card games, you most certainly do use your life as a resource in FGs as well. Often the whole plan for a grappler is to trade blows so they can see what their opponent is usually trying to trade with so they can beat it. Many times I'll trade my life to try and get in on my opponent if the life I'm giving is to jabs and not sweeps/tempo making attacks. Life is a resource isn't so much talked about in the FGC like in card games, but it's certainly there and used pretty frequently.

Give it a try if you have an LGS in driving distance! It's great fun and precons are 10$.

Sorry data Doll. I don't know enough about blitz to talk about it 😂

@@gorganiantome All you really gotta know is that it turns out when everyone else draws 4 and you draw 3, that's...not good!

I really don't like that character 😂 I still get kara-bustered in my nightmares

Okay!

From what I've heard! Maybe give FaB a shot if you liked that dance in YGO. Every match of FaB is that to some degree!

The difference I'm trying to point out is that, in Fighting Games, you don't need to draw forests or mountains to get access to your jabs and DPs. I think that's not a controversial argument

Coming soon! And thanks so much!

It all just depends on what your goals are! The best is always to go to fabtcg.com -> Events, and search your local area for stores that have Armories. You can ask the shop owner for an Ira welcome deck if they have it, or grab one of the Blitz Precons. If you want to try online first, I'd say go to felttable.com because there you can play against an AI to learn the basic rules. After that it's all just dependent on goals, budget, etc.

Yes! Felttable.com to play against ai of whatever heroes you like to try out everything. Grab potential decklists from Fabrary.net or fabdb.net (just upload and import.) Start there because it's alot better to get a handle on the game without feeling rushed by an online player. Once you got a handle, talishar.net is the next step!

Thank you!!

I keep hearing this but I don't understand why. Every single game of YGO I have ever seen is about summoning monsters and doing battle with said monsters.

​@@gorganiantome It is not. Battle Phase hasn't been really important in YGO in ages. We joke that there is not "my turn/your turn" in YGO anymore, it is always "our turn". It is heavily combo-based, while the non-turn player is trying to counter attack using combo breakers (handtraps). Both players are always playing and trying to combo at the same time, that's why it feels like you are playing Mortal Kombat.

Thank you! I really, really appreciate your comment.

Thanks man! I am glad I could help others explain the game to other new players!

That's always been the grand secret of fighting games and fab. The mentality is the progression track. Good mentality = good progression!!!

It's AWESOME haha. Nothing beats going to your LGS and asking for some help, but if you wanna try online first I will always recommend felttable.com to play a couple games against a bot to just learn some basic rules.

That's an interesting proposition, Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter events could be amazing targets!

@Sigma [OrDoS] FAB players who also are at fighting events may want to bring a few Blitz decks with them and offer to teach others how to play FAB. Treat FAB as a stand alone game, using the blitz decks and not expandable, when presenting it. What I am trying to do where I am is connect FAB and fighting game communities.

It would be very interesting to see! I have pretty solid anecdotes of basically everyone I know who likes fighting games really likes FAB. The crossover in mentality is continuously what is so interesting to me while watching the game grow.

I also love to imagine seeing the EVO lineup for 2024 and see "Flesh and Blood" up there with SF, GG, MK, UNIST, etc.

@Gorganian Tome while not EVO, I am trying to expand other events to do more head to head Esports. I want to do Chess and even Magic together with fighting games. Throw in Madden. It is just FAB has a lot going for it now that others do not, in regards to a mapping to fighting games. I need games where this is an active community to show up for it. I think now that FAB players would benefit invading local fight scenes where they are.

Dude I fucking love UNIST. Can't wait for the next one!

No! But that's a new one I've never heard of. Sounds really cool!

@@gorganiantome It's probably my favorite card game. If you've heard of the Guilty Gear Strive Board Game recently, that is the 7th set of Exceed that merely got rebranded. This is a great video on it, if you're interested: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uGm5ybuZib0.htmlsi=Wr0Zo6x0V1gXnjUn

Thanks! And I wish I knew! I've never played DBS before so I can't comment directly on it. If the cards in DBS actually represent physical attacks, then yeah I think it could be. FaB is just so tightly designed around what I call "card game frame data" much like a Fighting game is, that I don't know how another game could pull it off as well as FaB!

@@gorganiantome Yeah, DBS could be one of the closest to F&B in terms of the card game frame data. I've left you a link below to let you know more about DBS from one of the best channels here on YT, enjoy mate! :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-F43zwUAeTvs.htmlsi=1NBvtbZYr6CtH7lJ

And Azalea 😂

Boy have I two heroes for you! Either: 1 Uzuri or 2 Dorinthea. They are both less grapplers like Manon, but they are focused heavily on mind games. Uzuri has a mechanic where she can represent an attack on the combat chain and then swap it for any attack in her hand for free. She doesn't go very wide (slower paced), but she threatens damage Every turn and blocks really well. That's my top recommendation. Uzuri is in the Outsiders box, and very few of her cards come from elsewhere. Then there's Dorinthea, who attacks with her sword every turn, and, if she can land the attack twice, she gets to put a +1 damage counter on it. How she does this is, you guessed it, mind games! Her cards are more spread out, as she's one of the oldest heroes, but she's very strong. Look up Josh Lau on RU-vid to learn more about her.

@@gorganiantome Thanks a bunch!!! I figured if the "I play X Magic deck, what FaB hero should I play?" question wasn't answerable, then this one might be ;). Cool video and channel, wish you all the success!

@@Nouxatar the fighting game is a much easier way for me to tell you what FaB deck to play than MTG haha! That's really the whole premise to my video.

I hadn't heard of it until this comment. After this comment, I found it on steam. After finding it on steam, I bought it! Wow!!

@@gorganiantome glad you liked it! Yomi has its own fighting game based on it called Fantasy Strike. It’s super simplified, though with one-button specials and the like, but still fun enough to play from time to time. Both games were developed by David Sirlin, who as you know developed the HD Edition of Super Turbo. So dude knows his stuff. Have you heard of UFS as well? That's another TCG that's literally all about fighting games.

Thanks! I'm glad it helped.

I consider it a fighting game but it's not designed to be a fighting game. It's designed to be a brawler.

Yeah don't worry. Viserai is my second favorite hero, so he'll be updated in FAB is a Fighting game Part 2 to wherever he is then. This video is basically impossible to make because every hero can be built differently, so I opted for "right now". Because you're right, vis can be aggro, all-rounder, etc.

@@gorganiantome Valid, makes perfect sense. Either way, great video, put words to something Ive been thinking for a long time but couldn't quite put words to. Fighting game but cards is how I've described the game to a lot of newer players thinking about getting into it.

What I'd say, for someone in your position. Try it out on felttable.com. You can play an AI there to get a sense of how it plays. If you like it, then look around! On fabtcg.com you can find events at places you might not even realize exist near you.

​@@gorganiantome Thanks for the tips. It's still looking grim on the side of events, but I'll play a few rounds and see how I like it.

Ahhh! I'm so sorry. It's so hard to get games in sometimes. I'd say play talishar and occasionally inquire with your local stores to see if they would carry the product. It all starts with someone asking!

Thank you for your comment! I'm getting more and more amazed at how many people said this the moment they started playing like I did!

@@gorganiantome it is a very unexpected crossover for sure. But once you play a game of FAB the similarities are immediately apparent. Loved how you point out the importance of situational awareness in both games

Thanks! And yes! Azalea mains rise up against not me! 😂

Haha yeah. I mean I'm ultimately kidding, of course. Grappler players should also get to have characters, too 😂. But Pot just drives me crazy. But that's also the guilty gear way, right? Your character is mid and every other character is bullshit and I hate it here 😂

@@gorganiantome I guess it’s where literally everyone except me and one other person plays Pot, abt the other person that doesn’t play pot plays Ram. Ive gotten hit with so many Pot busters and fallen into HPB setups it’s sad honestly

Okay I look forward to your video rebuttal!

@@gorganiantome lmfao i am not doing that.

Thank you thank you!