Hi! I´ve two Flir, DM284 w/ Thermal Camera and DM93 w/ Bluetooth. Are Rugged stuf, and give very confidence, I agree w/ you. I calibrated DM284 in Brazil (under one of INMETRO´s Labs registered, by Elus Instrumentação an amazing Lab in Brazil), and it´s awesome results as same level your competitors. I´ve in my bench others like Amprobe AM570, Yokogawa TY720 (with 50.000 counts, and other features useful, as data logging), UNI-T UT61e+, and a Fluke 117 as well, but the Flirs are a really good DMMs. I apreciate your comments and advices, is helpul, transparence and bring some spice, in the options avalaible in the market! Go ahead, good Job!!
Thanks for the video Eddie, this was great! That meter is sick! I love the diode function, all around great meter. Appreciate the level of detail you went into. But damnit, now I either have to get one or obsess about it for weeks ha!
The Flir looks to be a good meter. The ultimate test for a lot of techs using these meters is how they hold up in the field under harsh conditions. I've dropped my Fluke 87 multiple times from ladders 8'- 10' approx. 3 meters onto concrete floors and still working. I store them in my service truck sometimes -15 degrees F and still work and are reliable. I've used Fluke meters over 40+ years in Industrial and Commercial environments they are rugged. I would consider something else to use on my work bench like a Keithly , Rigol, Siglent if it wasn't exposed to the elements of rain, cold, ice, dropping, etc. Only Fluke for my field service work. Nice video.
Thank you for your feedback! I get that when you have experience with a product that it can earn your respect. But, IMHO I'll share the following. This Flir comes with a lifetime warranty which only the most expensive Flukes do (which I think is actually more like 10 year warranty), or they come with 3 years - which I'm pretty sure of. The Flir has a much higher IP rating which most Flukes, from what I can tell, have no rating or is very minimal. That's hard particulates and water ingress rating as well as the Flir is drop tested. Much to my surprise, I can't find the drop test on most Flukes. From what I can tell the Flir has at least as good build quality as the most expensive Flukes. And the Flir comes with silicone leads that are very nice. You don't need to pay an extra $45 for the Fluke silicone leads. IMHO, after using Fluke 87s for years (all the variations) they just don't compare to the Flir. The Flir has more capability and has a much better display. Fluke's flagship is showing its age and it is so expensive. It is a shame that the bean counters have taken over.
@@KissAnalog You make some very good points. The Flukes are showing their age. I own the original Fluke 87 also have the 87v. My first was the Fluke 73 I bought it in the 80's I still have it and works good. I have (2) Fluke 289's I use for bench work. Old habits are hard to break but these meters have served me well in the field with very harsh conditions in New England. I've tried to measure 480volts on the Ohms scale a number of times without damage to the meter. the meters have all dropped from an 8' step ladder several times and frozen solid countless times where the display barely comes on. All the tradespeople I met over the years use Fluke and a few carry "Fieldpiece" I also a fieldpiece with a bunch of accessories but do not take it with me. Currently looking for a bench top unit to replace the 289's maybe a Keithly or Rigol. but probably not a Fluke.
I have had my DM92 for 3 years now, a good meter, the batteries last quite well if you don't use the flash light to often and it shut down at 7volts battery level. Thanks for the video explaining the AC test method diode funtion, not as on most DMMs, I had to write to Flir for clarification, as you comment the manual does not clearly explain this method and it was new to me.
Hi Skip, I like this meter. It might go through batteries faster like it seems a lot of the high end meters do, but not too bad. Thanks for the feedback!!
The body of this meter feels like rubber and has a nice texture. I agree, it is too bad Fluke and FLIR don’t provide carry bags - and didn’t charge so much for one. Thanks for the feedback!
I was checking the price - one place is selling them for : $299.99 without the NIST, with NIST is $449.99!!! I love the dB function!!!! The DM93 is only #349.99 - $50 more! In these days it should be included for free! Bluetooth is now in my pencil! ha ha ha I'll pay extra every time if it has Bluetooth or Wifi!!!
Hi Tony - the DM93 is going $300 on sale at Amazon in the US. I wonder if you can use my link to get that price. I have the link to the 92 but then you can select the 93. Great meter.
@@KissAnalog No it doesn't work at this moment, but you can see my messages, so by the time others try, you should be able to fix it! Have a nice evening Eddy!
Just noted how the silk screen on the pcb Rotary switch are not even, some are horizontal and some are rotated. Nice channel btw. You got a new sub. Looking foward for the upcoming vids. Greetings!!!
Nice meter, tanks for show us. I have looking for some teardown of some HT multimeter, an italian company that produces some instruments for eletrical tests. Good look, tanks
Wow a LOT of attention to detail ! Brass inserts even for the rear body screws ! I don't think even Flukes got that ! Then the RF shielding, even those little screw markings on the stand & lot of others as well ! Although not all of 'em are really necessary but it's nice to see that they've gone the extra mile to design & build all of that into this nice looking meter when what everybody do these days is skip even the necessary stuff & cut corners to save a buck ! :D Lovely review :D That's a beautiful Fluke 189 u got there :P A review on that would be really nice since not a lot of reviews on those are out there :P
Interesting video. Question though. From your perspective what would you rate (overall) from 1st to 4th, The Fluke 189, Fluke 87 V, This Flir and Hioki 4282. Thanks.
Thanks, Eddie! Pretty cool meter. I use VOM's for testing diodes. I also like that it uses AAA batteries rather than the 9V batteries like most DMM's use.
@@KissAnalog My RCA WV-519A has the two AA's and a 22.5V battery. It tests at about 25.5V on X10K. I have proven that it will catch bad diodes that a DMM will not. It is not often that a diode will fail like that, but it does happen.
@@KissAnalog From what I have seen, the 9V battery doesn't mean much since most DMM's don't test at the full voltage on the diode function. My Brymen 869s tests at about 2V on the diode function, and my Fluke 87V tests at about 3V. A cheap VOM with X10K has the added 9V and will test at about 12V depending on the charge of your batteries. I firmly believe that most people having the "tough dog" repairs are the same people that believe that VOM's are obsolete, and trust their DMM's more than they should... To those people I say, "Enjoy those tough dog repairs".
The Flir is a bit higher end and on sale here amzn.to/3jibb7g They are both excellent meters though, and the Testo is on sale at a better price. 3zd76qi The amprobe is a great option too and is on sale too amzn.to/3myFCYK Another low cost option that has an amazing price is this one amzn.to/3jhHd3i
YUP!! I agree! I'm look'n @ going with the IR multimeter.. DM166. or the DM66.. 4 my future Utube channel...... Thanks 4 the trouble shooting test drive!! very helpful!! wish U had the DM66. or the DM166...though, I'm wandering if an old classic multimeter wouldn't work better. with low powered electronics...goodnight!!look@those fusses!!wow!! FLIR has really expanded! I don't know if they are still in the U.S. but they are making stuff 4 many fields of work!! I don't think there is another product on the market like these!!?
Thanks for the feedback. You are right, the Fluke 289 does read capacitance faster, and it even goes up to 100 mF which is impressive. But the Fluke 289 costs over $600 which is twice the price of the FLIR. At less than $300, the FLIR DM92 goes up 40 mF. So, I only used the Fluke 289 to compare to because the more comparably priced FLUKE 179 at about $350 doesn't hold a candle to the FLIR. The FLIR priced more closely to the 179 but performs more closely to the 289. I really wish that I did get paid to advertise - but I don't so I do these comparisons to help others make good choices. So many think that FLUKE is the only safe brand and are worth the inflated pricing, but I hope this comparisons will introduce a relatively new comer that is definitely worth a look. I hope it helps make good choices based on performance vs cost and not branding.
That menu bar is a real deal breaker. My screen gets grease and grime on it right out the gate, or those beat to hell face shields would make it near impossible to use that. Give me buttons I can feel through gloves or in pitch black. I think that menu would get old fast even at home on the bench.
Thanks Jason! I understand and not every menu system works for everyone. The Flir is an excellent meter though in regards to capability and accuracy. My new favorite now is the Hioki, have you seen this review? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YvivwYCxrBo.html
Good comment. I’m a Fluke fan as their cust svc & warranty have been Very Respectable. The FLIR meter might be a good ‘bench or light field’ meter, take Fluke to the field.
Great review! It looks like FLIR has Fluke beat in some ways. Gold contacts on the wipers, high quality caps, etc.. I'm just mot sure about the 2 volt threshold on the diode tester.
Yes I agree, but for the price difference - the FLIR wins I think. It leaves money for an inexpensive meter that is good for higher voltage diode testing:)
15:44 With the diode test, if you testing LED's, you can see if they work when they light up or not (blinking in this case), but how can you tell if a normal diode or a PNP/NPN transistor is passing current in one direction, and blocking current in the other direction (normal mode), or passing current in both directions (short ) when you get the same readings when swapping the leads, that doesn't make sense or i'm missing something ?
Yes I was wondering the same thing - but then I realize if the diode ruction is working - breaking down at what ever diode type that is being tested - then it must be OK and be able to block as well. I can't think of a time when I found a diode in a failed state that could give one reading and not the other - as they fail short most often. I have found bad diodes that actually cracked open but wasn't apparent until desoldering and fell apart. these diodes test open in both polarities and don't show the diode breakdown, so I think this is OK.
@@KissAnalog , with a normal DMM, in diodemode, you get only 1 reading when the diode is okay, if you swap the leads and you get no reading, then the diode is okay (blocking). If you then got 2 readings, you know that the diode is bad. But how can you tell with the FLIR if your diode is bad, when you got a reading in both directions ? It's like measuring a resistor in diodemode. Also, when you have a diode where the markings are gone, how can you determine which is the cathode and which is the anode, when you get exact same reading in both directions? I find this a very confusioning way of measuring diodes :-)
They are both built very well. Amprobe is owned by the same people that own Fluke. Also Amprobe has been around longer than Fluke I think, but they have a name too, so they take pride in what they do. FLIR is doing a great job but they do cost a bit more - somewhere between Fluke and Amprobe;)
I have received a low cost amp clamp that can be used with this, and I think there are others that would work just as well. Here's a demonstration: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LGN2H1R2hcs.html
Not sure if you saw it or not but when checking the diodes the display would show a minus sign when you reverse the leads. Anyway it looks like a really nice meter though it sure needs a lot of battery's not sure I like that.
It's a wonder it still works after sticking your fingers on the processors..what happen to all the static electricity we were taught..never seen the likes of it.
Looks like a nice meter, but for $300 it should be gold plated! ;-) I wonder what that feature that measures the diode either way would do with one of the LEDs that has different colors going in the different directions?
ats89117 LOL I think it would blink them both on and off alternating between them. Great question - I might have one to try. I’ll get back to you;) Thanks for the great feedback.
Enjoyed your review! I’m looking for a bench top hobby meter, but really don’t want to spend quite that much. Any recommendations? I notice the Flir DM 66 in the $100 price range.
Thanks Jay! Are you looking for a bench top meter or a handheld meter? I like the FLIR meters, but let me know what you are looking for and price range and I might be able to give you a recommend;)
@@KissAnalog I think I want a large size handheld. I really like the Flir, but don’t want to spend quite that much until I see if I stick with it. I have a clamp meter I use for most things but really want a good quality multi.
I honestly think that the Fluke 87V is a dinosaur;) I've used it for years and it is just a basic meter. The Flir is a much better meter - especially for the money. I know that Fluke loyalist would be insulted - and believe me - I used to be one of them:)
@@alatmarine6890 I’ve been searching for a deal, I really don’t want to spend a lot for a meter that in my opinion isn’t with half of what they sale for.
So Eddie, it's been about a year. Assuming you've used the DM92 during that time (or you still have it) what do you think about it now? I think I'll pick up a DM92 from TEquipment, unless you say otherwise...
Thanks for this great question! I have been thinking it is time for a follow up, but I’ve been too busy to do it;) I have the DM93 that I want to review and I think I’d go for that one;) I love these meters;). amzn.to/2TneO12
@@KissAnalog Typically that is my MO...to go for the most feature rich or expensive model in the series or product line. But I've found I rarely, if ever, interface readings to a PC or use Bluetooth on a handheld DMM. I do have several hi-end data logging DMMs if I ever need that function. BT radio tends to be poorly implemented in a lot of devices resulting in poor connection/range, sketchy interface software and draws a lot of power. So in the case of the DM92 & 93 w/six AAA batteries, I'd be concerned of the runtime. Same reason I'm not enthusiastic about the integral flashlight or why I don't want the DM285 thermal imaging DMM. If I really need the thermal imaging function (or a flashlight) I'd use a dedicated thermal imaging tool (or a real LED light) that would perform that function better. Maybe you could compare features/functionality & runtime of the DM92 & DM93? I'm looking forward to future reviews of the DM93 and other quality handheld DMMs. Have great one!
@@KissAnalog Well it's been 6 months since I asked you for your "1 year later" opinion. Bought a few handheld DMMs since then and realized I never purchased a Flir DMM. Said screw it and bought the DM93 instead of the DM92 from TEquipment for a good discount (read somewhere the DM92 was being discontinued). Took them almost month to ship, but received it today. Got my eye on a Fluke 124B/NA Scopemeter for the field. Would love to see you review the Fluke 120 Series Scopemeter in the new year.
Goodness .. this is by far the “beefiest”... “safest”... multimeter while still being much cheaper than a Fluke LOL ... hope Fluke watches these two videos and maybe copies some things !!! (and no... I don’t hate Fluke ... actually own two along with others ...)
Are you asking what duty cycle is, or if the meter can read it? Duty cycle on a square wave is 50% if it is on half the time and off half the time. The Duty Cycle is 10% if on for 10% of the time and off 90% of the time. These meters can read that.
You have here on the part 2 the same problem with the amzn.to ! Here you can see this meter on Amazon: www.amazon.com/FLIR-DM93-Industrial-Digital-Multimeter/dp/B00FPK5DCU/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=flir+dm93&qid=1592103254&s=industrial&sr=1-1 It is the Blue Tooth version!
@@KissAnalog the new DMMs they have on their website look interesting...the Indian manufacturer. But can't find where to buy in USA. TME in Poland doesn't carry them either. But I did just see that TME is carrying (or will stock soon) Gossen Metrawatt :-)
"FLIR" - is an overrated, expensive marketing ploy, which puts complicated software over practicality, sticking with your FLUKE or other good measuring equipment.
Thanks for the feedback! This Flir is lower cost than the Fluke with a better display and more functionality, so in this case I think the Fluke is overrated. The build quality of the Flir is also top notch. I think Fluke is losing ground IMHO;)
Flir is great for general measurement. if you want any sort of accuracy better stick with Fluke. I calibrate handheld and bench top Dmms everyday and longterm accuracy Fluke dominates. The Snap On argument is valid, just not with DMMs. It all depends on what your using them for. how accurate do you need them to be and accuracy over what period of time. Flir has a place, but so does Fluke.