I agree that Olivia is certainly fearsome and terrifying in FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC, but I’d argue that the true “villain” is Corrine. She’s responsible for her children’s imprisonment and she could free her children at any point. However, she chooses to sacrifice them for her own personal gain. Olivia and Malcolm would have no legal authority or power to hold the children captive against Corrine’s will.
I felt Olivia was really the victim in most of it but I haven’t read the books so I’m going off the movies & shows but when Mal died Olivia gave up on life fr but you have to notice Corrine obviously went through a lot of trauma because it eventually became a mental illness that she could no longer control it’s important to watch all 3 movies & the shows. Shit if we really being real Corrine (Malcom’s mother raped him & doomed that family )
@@fortheculture657 Also she was very spoiled. Malcolm spoiled her and when she and Christopher ran away and made a life for themselves, they lived beyond their means that Corrine admitted after Christopher died. She had no appreciable skills. The best one was Garden Of Shadows.
I read these books in my teens which I might have been 12 when I read "Flowers in the Attic." Probably too young to read such stories. I was not nearly as upset by the incest that took place as I should've been. It is really a dark story. I loved these books at the time and I forgot a lot of this stuff and have not seen the limited series yet. I will watch it now. I remember Olivia's story really stood out for me at the time and you did a great job covering it. I remember Olivia being tall and unattractive in the book. She stood out amongst the high class beautiful people and without having that detail in the tv series makes it miss the mark. These books were really a big part if my teenage years and I appreciate you covering them so well.
Wow I love the book series and all the movies are amazing 😍 I love the Lifetime movies 😊 Also they were uncle and niece but they were sister and brother. Both were born by they had the same mother ...also i am now a subscriber.
They killed off John Amos in the Origin movie. In the movie series, John Amos doesn't die until the house is set on fire at the same time that Corrine dies. It doesn't make sense. Did they forget about the movies they have already made? Also, they implied in Part 1 that John Amos was gay. When he met Malcom, he had a palpable interest in him. This could have explained his obsession with Malcom, which he conveyed to Bart, in the later film. But then in Part 4, he is suddenly obsessed with Olivia, and even though he is living in their house he has no dealings with Malcom at all. Malcom is also not shown being religious, which would have been necessary for him to write his manifesto, which is later taken by Amos and conveyed to Bart. It is only Oliva who is shown being religious. None of this makes any sense. These continuity problems are annoying. Its as if they got lost and forgot the story they were trying to tell. Also, what the hell eventually happened to Joel and Harry? When did Joel die? They could have tied up his story better since they were not going to revisit his character in the subsequent movies.
This is my first time watching your channel and I was impressed how well you were able to express your thoughts even tho it's a long video I really enjoyed your commentary so I subscribed 😅
I don’t know about that one Corrine and Olivia were much more viscous in the new one but the way the old version played out was good as hell I had to watch the old one I felt like the newer one left some stuff out but it was definitely a bit more brutal
I have read all of V.C. Andrews series. Flowers in the Attic was by far my favorite. I absolutely loved the prequel. In regards to the parallel between the book and movie, I think they portrayed Olivia more empathetic than she was in the book. I understand that they are trying to humanize her, but in the book, she was an “Iron lady” The actor who is portraying Malcolm is a miscast. He looks too young, not confident, and his accent appears very forced. The relationship between Malcolm and his father deserved more background information; Olivia’s relationship with the Black maid seems rushed and not genuine. Once again, not enough development. Their storyline will be interesting moving forward. Olivia’s relationship with Alicia captured envy and compassion. Overall, I was entertained. Looking forward to part 2.
I agree. Flowers in the Attic is VC Andrew's best work. Garden of Shadows was my favorite. Soo glad to see them tell this story. They definitely humanized Olivia in a big way. I'm curious to see how they'll make the turn from this Olivia to the woman we meet in Flowers in the Attic. Yes, I would have liked to see more of Garland and his relationship with Malcolm. They killed him off pretty quickly. I like that they added the Nella character b/c Olivia definitely needs a friend and confidante. Learning what Malcom did to Nella was significant in depicting him as a monster. In the book, his cruelty seemed limited to his family but we learn he's actually worse than we imagined. Part 2 was very good in fleshing out the character and dynamics...
@@fortheculture657 I think Malcolm was pretty young in GARDEN OF SHADOWS, right? Somewhere in his mid-20s. I think the actor in the movie works. I agree that Olivia is not quite right. She’s a bit more fragile. Whereas, as stated, in the book, she’s the “Iron Lady” -- she keeps her vulnerability and emotions in check. She’s also quite the shade caster in the book, and I don’t get that in the movie.
RE: Malcolm's age. That's what I thought too. I know Olivia was around 24 when she and Malcolm met, I assumed he was around the same age. Which makes me curious to how old he was when he raped and impregnated Nella, b/c her daughter looks grown in Part I. And yes, Olivia was quite the mean girl in the book. Taking jabs at everyone every chance she got.
Max is a Great actor....And portrays Malcom perfectly according to his Despicable nature in the Book!... (He's CHARACTER is in his mid 20') in 1919.....Irons is actually In his 30's.
Great breakdown! Never read the books just saw the movie & the remakes & I agree that she should’ve been more book accurate because it just didn’t make sense to me why she was so hard on herself when she’s not ugly.
Also VC Andrews (whose real name was Cleo Virginia Andrews) only wrote 100 Pages before she died of Cancer, her Ghostwriter Andrew Niederman wrote Garden Of Shadows.
I have a suspicion that the ghostwriter wrote more than half of SEEDS OF YESTERDAY because the dialogue is not characteristic of VC's earlier three novels. GARDEN OF SHADOWS threw the blueprint of the first two books out of the window and decided to make Olivia the villain and not Corrine.
I might be early or late to something, but, Malcom in this mini series is a dog yes? So, why is his same character this “God fearing” sin avoiding tool in If There be Thorns? Tis the same Malcom, Corrine’s father. &, in Petals on the Wind, I believe Cathy says they were in the attic for two years, in If There be Thorns when she confronts Corrine, she says it was three..so..which is it?
The ghostwriter remade Malcolm and Olivia into different characters than originally written. He made it appear that Olivia was manipulated by John Amos into being a religious zealot. Corrine mentioned that John Amos made advances toward her, and her parents wanted her to marry him. But the worst part is how the ghostwriter took away the responsibility of Malcom and Corrine's actions and put them all on Olivia's shoulders.
@@fortheculture657 I was so happy to find you going over this show! I can't wait for more of creepy John Amos and Christopher coming back. We still have a bit to get through :)
Great video the only thing with me is I feel like every review shouldn’t be compared to to the book. In all reality we know they tend to change things but the movies 🎥 & show is already enough confusing for people