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FLSUN T1 - The One Trick RaceHorse 

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@torquemada1971
@torquemada1971 Месяц назад
Friends don't let friends review printers using white filament.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Noted, but they always send white filament. I wonder why? 😏 Creality sends shiny blue with all of their review printers which shows defects pretty well
@juicyballerina12
@juicyballerina12 Месяц назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots White and black are the most popular colors in the market. If send silk pla or metal pla, people may ask more why. This is always the case.
@juicyballerina12
@juicyballerina12 Месяц назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots Kind people see kindness, honest people see honesty, and picky people see flaws. What you need to do is to show everyone what the objective facts are.
@djgraffiti5627
@djgraffiti5627 Месяц назад
This isn't reliable according to all the "Beta" testers right now. The bed magnet slides off if temps are 80c or above slowly, the heat rods don't last long, the camera mount is poorly made, the limit switches tend to stop the arms before the arms even reach the top, the accuracy on the z axis is inconsistent, the firmware freezes at times, the finished print screen doesn't go away unless you manually clear it, and if you clear it while another print is going the entire progress screen for new print disappears. Klipper locks out of web axis randomly, and much much more. This is a tinker printer and isn't beginner friendly. But it prints fast as heck so theres that
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Yeah, the S1 and T1 are a case of investing heavily into one aspect of a printer (speed), while sacrificing other parts of the user experience. How important is it to you to have the fastest printer possible? Is it worth having something that is bigger, louder, and has a less polished user experience? To me it doesn't really make sense to go all-out for speed at the expense of other important features for a printer. But this does what it says on the tin - make printer go fast.
@skunkprints7952
@skunkprints7952 Месяц назад
Nathan Builds Robots is the definitive source for 3D printing news and information!
@TheJacklwilliams
@TheJacklwilliams 28 дней назад
I’ll add he’s super entertaining. He doesn’t hold back. Gives honest, in depth reviews and has the knowledge to back it up. Agreed. I put him up with the top 5. Teaching Tech, CNC Kitchen, Makers Muse, Nathan Builds Robots and finally, I’m tired. Can’t remember the fifth but I’ve got one. Also, don’t try to order them as far as I’m concerned because each brings a unique approach yet all can teach you all you want to know. OH!!! Aurora Tech! That young lady is absolutely incredible as well. Top 5!
@johnsmith-i5j7i
@johnsmith-i5j7i Месяц назад
Waiting until a one second benchy is possible.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Time for Injection Molding!
@DrAlanQuan
@DrAlanQuan Месяц назад
​@@NathanBuildsRobotsI was thinking of metal casting then realised it's basically the same thing😂
@wazzamanu
@wazzamanu Месяц назад
Possible .
@juicyballerina12
@juicyballerina12 Месяц назад
Maybe it will be a long, long time later.
@DrAlanQuan
@DrAlanQuan Месяц назад
​@@juicyballerina12But it's still 1 second 😂
@cerrkprgragg
@cerrkprgragg Месяц назад
I have two FLSUN V400 , two FLSUN T1 and one Bambu Lab P1S with AMS . When completing some multi-color printing tasks, I will use P1S with AMS, but for many printing tasks, I will use V400 and T1; Multi-color printing will look very beautiful, but it will waste a lot of fiament .
@wazzamanu
@wazzamanu Месяц назад
I have never had a delta printer before because the online reviews were not very friendly. For speed, I tried to buy a T1. I absolutely love it. It is super fast .
@louis-philippeyargeau2497
@louis-philippeyargeau2497 Месяц назад
If I'd "need" a 7th printer... I'd buy this T1. But so far, I'm so pleased with my two Qidi and a Neptune 4 (thank you Nathan 🙄). Currently converting my Flsun Q5 to Klipper (let's call it the poor man's T1).
@michaelbrayman4994
@michaelbrayman4994 Месяц назад
Id buy it just because its different lol, But all in all I like the delta style printers, And this one gives me an idea to modify a cpap I have laying around for a secondary part cooling fan on my adventurer 5m non pro.
@joshuahuman1
@joshuahuman1 Месяц назад
lets see how long the flsun bots take show up like they did on clough42's channel.
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw Месяц назад
You do know your account looks like a bot right no picture random name as username with human in it lol
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Tbh that situation seems overblown. Most of these companies use marketing tactics like that and worse.
@NoMercyFtw
@NoMercyFtw Месяц назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots yep, a few comments with profiles with no pictures is not bots now a few 1000 that's a different story
@juicyballerina12
@juicyballerina12 Месяц назад
Smarter robots have arrived, may be the Bambu robot .
@jacobpintye150
@jacobpintye150 Месяц назад
What is the lead time for the printer at the moment just ordered one today but no eta on delivery date are they actually released or just beta untill full release?
@tehehe5929
@tehehe5929 16 дней назад
Machine like this should really have active noise cancellation built in.
@blaze_toast
@blaze_toast Месяц назад
Well i was actually thinking about getting one but couldn’t find a good review so i ended up with a bambu lab p1s because they are great
@alboroble
@alboroble Месяц назад
I also have p1s , it works good , but I also encountered a lot of problems, and their service is the most rubbish.
@blaze_toast
@blaze_toast Месяц назад
@@alboroble really mine has been great im hoping i can start to repair my voron soon
@DrAlanQuan
@DrAlanQuan Месяц назад
I think the P1S is a safe choice. The T1 is certainly capable of things the P1S is not, and could be a useful tool to add in the future. The T1 I'm using has been very reliable and dang fast - even when running at a comfortable cruising speed it's faster than the P1S at full throttle. That said the P1S has multi material options which the T1 does not, and that's a cool feature too. Have you received the P1S yet?
@blaze_toast
@blaze_toast Месяц назад
@@DrAlanQuan yeah ive had my p1s for a few days with the ams it has been working great so far only one small mishap happened
@balvedi54
@balvedi54 Месяц назад
@@DrAlanQuan Agree , depends on usage . Much time I use T1 , for multicolor printing go to my P1s .
@colincampbell3679
@colincampbell3679 Месяц назад
If anything I would have thought that the beds for a Delta be a Triangle than a circle, Because the main movements of the infector head system is a 3 point Triangle when running My FL Sun Delta QQ-S Pro sure is more likely to be doing triangle main movements over the round bed area than doing circle ones. As for the noisy cooling fan problem, I think that really Fl Sun should have just used a bigger 80 or 120 mm normal PC silent cooling fan up in the top of the printer with the right shaped encloser around the fan to force the air down the tube better it would have been almost silent yet powerful enough to cool the faster prints! New 3D printers have small fans for cooling in general some have say 50 mm or 60 mm cooling fans so fitting a 80 mm or 120 mm fan to the T1 and S1 would with the right design of fan housing kept the noise down to half of the noise it has now and cooled fine. in fact maybe water cooling tech from PC's could be used in these more pricey printers to do the same job and of course be less noisy than a very big loud turbine fan? I think all 3D printer companies need to do testing to see what they can do about cooling fan noise now as it seems that most printers are getting more loud due to faster klipper printing needs for cooling more! Seems daft to design a faster printer but forget to design a better cooling system that is lower in noise as they are selling these printers for a huge amount ( S1 ) for that amount users expect a better noise control.
@BitterCynical
@BitterCynical Месяц назад
A triangle bed would have a lot less area to build on, kind of want the build plate as big as possible to not limit what you can print as much. Also a typical axial PC fan is just terrible for 3D printers in general. It's neither good at creating a concentrated flow of air directly at the nozzle for part cooling, nor can they create sufficient pressure for long ducts which is why cars for cabin air use blowers. As long as the printing is fast I'm afraid noise is unavoidable. It's not just fans, the stepper motors also make a lot of noise. My K1C shakes the whole table while printing, I actually need to get some better furniture and maybe a concrete slab for it to sit on to reduce noise.
@alboroble
@alboroble Месяц назад
Very professional
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
It's not unavoidable, the PRUSA PRO HT90 is super fast and near silent. It's just $10k...
@bybrndrengar1029
@bybrndrengar1029 Месяц назад
Have you seen the heat block design ? Apparently it is right next to plastics and it is causing issues
@aware2action
@aware2action Месяц назад
I would love to see a delta printer, that does not blow the part off, while still not using z-hop(all the while printing @ min. Layer height, a tall part(atleast more than 2/3 of max height) @ max speed.). I feel this is a litmus test for a delta printer's calibration and print motion system movement accuracy. I doubt FLSun had overcome this🤞.❤👍
@Eric_In_SF
@Eric_In_SF Месяц назад
Just because I know you enjoy banter. There’s no such thing as a decibel meter. It’s like calling a clock an hour and minute displayer A sound meter measures a decibels 😂
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
My miles per hour meter tells me how fast my car goes
@Eric_In_SF
@Eric_In_SF Месяц назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots my degrees meter tells me how hot it is.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
@@Eric_In_SF is it a farenheightometer or a kelvinometer?
@BitterCynical
@BitterCynical Месяц назад
I already bought a K1C recently and it's been great for the PLA and PETG parts I've made so far. Yet to try more challenging materials. The whole delta thing is really cool to me, but unfortunately since I don't have the kind of money to just buy things for being cool I probably wouldn't have bought this tower of speed even if I didn't have the K1C already.
@derickkruger5680
@derickkruger5680 Месяц назад
With PETG, speed is a non issue, you cannot go > 80mm/s.
@Vallecaucanisimo
@Vallecaucanisimo Месяц назад
Too loud…. Seriously unbearable.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
WRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-
@S.A.S.H.
@S.A.S.H. Месяц назад
I have an FLSun SR, and it's one hell of a printer, but it doesn't get used much since I bought my Bambu Lab X1-C and AL, with AMS and AMS Lite, respectively. I still would recommend them as fast, accurate and reliable. But that noise! Dear Gawd.
@daliasprints9798
@daliasprints9798 Месяц назад
Ouch that backdriving. Weak motors?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Strong arms 💪
@Castdeath
@Castdeath Месяц назад
How bad are the delta artifacts with this one?
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Not sure what a delta artifact is, the test prints I did turned out really nice though. I'd like to revisit this printer and do one of the standard print tests that shows overhangs and square edges but I didn't have a lot of time to invest into this video
@Castdeath
@Castdeath Месяц назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots clough42’s S1 Video had some delta artificating in some prints. They look like VFAs.
@aberodriguez4149
@aberodriguez4149 Месяц назад
👍👍👍
@dhruvasammeta69
@dhruvasammeta69 Месяц назад
Hi! i have been comparing the creality k1, flsun t1, and bambu lab a1, i want to keep the printer for a while, as a student and maker, could anyone suggest which one to pick or any other options! (price upto 600$ and pla-cf is gonna be used)
@marc_frank
@marc_frank Месяц назад
definitely wouldn't get the a1
@Parodidical
@Parodidical Месяц назад
Bambu lab p1p
@marc_frank
@marc_frank Месяц назад
@@Parodidical yes, but consider the s
@Parodidical
@Parodidical Месяц назад
@@marc_frank that's usually $700, so unless the discount to $599 is permanent it won't fit the less than $600 price range the guy mentioned
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
K1 SE is probably the best/cheapest option at $360 and you can find some discounts if you look around. Ironically the K1 SE will be better than the K1C at printing PLA-CF because it has a larger bend radius for the bowden tube. You don't need an enclosure for PLA-CF. But make sure to clearcoat or something if the parts will be in contact with skin.
@DANIELGENG-v5o
@DANIELGENG-v5o Месяц назад
i think he got that squarespace thing from another video!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Shhh 🤫
@DANIELGENG-v5o
@DANIELGENG-v5o Месяц назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots haha
@hitf5
@hitf5 Месяц назад
I like most of your content but these reviews for this and the other FLSUN one you seemed to glowingly review is giving me doubts as to whether I should keep supporting the channel. I was considering the S1 after your review but it was only available direct from their website and they have a not so great return policy (up to 30 days I think, but after 7 days you have to pay for the extremely expensive return shipping). Then other reviews started rolling in and the consensus from those were that it was a real POS (and the company was too). So hopefully this will be the last FLSUN one you review. I mean you are free to do what you want, and I'm free to do what I want, but this is just general feedback.
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
I was thinking about grilling them on the T1, but it genuinely seems better than the S1 in terms of compromising between value and speed. If it were my money i'd probably get a K1C, or A1 Mini, but these videos are for people who want to know more about these printers and see them work.
@hitf5
@hitf5 Месяц назад
@@NathanBuildsRobots Thanks, understand. Also, an update to the return policy is now 14 days and there is no free returns so you are on the hook from day one. Also, there are tons of other conditions. Take a look at their newly updated return policy - it's really crazy!
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
Printer return policies suck. They basically can't be resold after someone has assembled one as there are all sorts of issues that can come up. It's not like a digital camera or a roll of unused tape
@daliasprints9798
@daliasprints9798 Месяц назад
This wasn't a glowing review...
@NathanBuildsRobots
@NathanBuildsRobots Месяц назад
lol that’s what I was thinking. I basically said it had an issue and there are 2 other printers you should consider, but this printer is as fast as they claim if all you care about is speed
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