Fmr. Harvard president on how ‘Necessary Trouble’ brings change

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Former Harvard president Drew Gilpin Faust joins MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss her new book, “Necessary Trouble,” a memoir of growing up in the segregated South and supporting the civil rights movement.
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@wesmahan4757 11 месяцев назад

OMG. The quote of the century: "Everything you learn should make you uncomfortable".

@catalinacurio 11 месяцев назад

I remember being angry at my tutor for opening my eyes knowing I couldn’t shut them again.

@user-gv7eb8tv5o 11 месяцев назад

All the TDS and mental illness on this makes me uncomfortable

@madshorn5826 11 месяцев назад

@@user-gv7eb8tv5o As it should 😊 Maybe the illness isn't where you thought?

@madshorn5826 11 месяцев назад

@@catalinacurio The local university in my part of Denmark ran a campaign emulating the messages on cigarette packets with the slogan "WARNING! Learning may seriously alter your brain". Maybe they had complaints and wanted to be up front with their students :-)

@kevinwasserburger3119 11 месяцев назад

@@user-gv7eb8tv5o TDS being what deranged Republicans and trumpists suffer from.

@melissaverduin3693 11 месяцев назад

Wonderful interview Lawrence!

@njm3211 11 месяцев назад

She is the embodiment of America's better angels.

@seanfralick6231 11 месяцев назад

This is a very wise person! I'm definitely reading her book. Ty Lawrence for having her on.

@jtempleton1465 11 месяцев назад

Thank you, Lawrence, for welcoming this wonderful woman! ❤

@bonniebreckenridge5236 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for having this great guest! I was born in 1951, and I have often quipped that my first words were not Mama, but Down with the patriarchy! 😊 I fought the restrictions for girls constantly, and when I was old enough to know, it sparked great empathy for the Civil Rights movement. No one should be held back by their color or gender... Fought for that all my life and won't stop til I die. I'll look for her book.

@bartjargengarblbargeler1980 11 месяцев назад

@marybravado6787 11 месяцев назад

SAME HERE

@balthus69 11 месяцев назад

I'm a white male born in the 60s. I hate my race and my gender and will never stop reflecting on my ignorance. I will never live in the present and above all-I will never accept that any progress has been made because it's all lies!

@bruggeman672 11 месяцев назад

@bonniebreckenridge5236 it's sad that someone's compassion is available only for one half of the population... No wonder young men are attracted to bad role models, as they have so few good role models...

@agoujon 11 месяцев назад

God bless you. People like you are the ones who change the World for the better ❤

@Sunmonks 11 месяцев назад

She is a beautiful example for people.

@B.Nice777 11 месяцев назад

She is a true example of valuing the character of a person versus devaluing them because of the color of their skin.

@paulettelacey4243 11 месяцев назад

Yeah

@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 11 месяцев назад

a rare specimen - a human showing her angel part.

@robertpearce4316 11 месяцев назад

She didn't save any lives at blm riots. She has not stopped the blacks today wanting complete segregation today. She did embrace bring in under qualified black students so they could fail at 60% at hHarvard .

@t.d108 11 месяцев назад

Thank you ,Lawrence, for sharing this truly inspiring woman with us!

@heatherc2939 11 месяцев назад

Lawrence, Drew Gilpin Faust is one to emulate. What a lovely interview with a woman of great intellect and grace. I've read her last book on the Civil War, and have now ordered "Necessary Trouble."

@makeracistsafraidagain 11 месяцев назад

Diversity is America’s Greatest Strength.

@paleocon777 11 месяцев назад

Democrats and fake news are the great dividers. You still haven’t seen the doctor about your TDS

@IlDiavolo2515 11 месяцев назад

Not in the eyes of some, unfortunately.

@seanfralick6231 11 месяцев назад

I am Canadian and didn't know who this person was....but...those opening few quotes has sparked me to buy thus this book.

@carlyar5281 11 месяцев назад

Same!🇨🇦

@catalinacurio 11 месяцев назад

I was told by a wonderful teacher that when you feel a little lost find a role model and emulate that person, this lady is a wonderful example for us all. 🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@juscholten4248 11 месяцев назад

Me too!! For me, the epiphany came in 1964 withing the winds of war in Vietnam, and the murders of freedom fighters down south, and when read Exodus, written by Leon Uris.

@kiabtoomlauj6249 11 месяцев назад

The historical & personal journey of this woman, a tiny slice of life on planet earth ---- since she was 9, reflected in her little girl's penmanship to President Eisenhower (about ending segregation, a process that didn't really pick up steam until I arrived in the US in the 1970s as a boy from Asia) --- has been a mind bending reality...

@the22ndday 11 месяцев назад

What a lovely woman. This sounds like a wonderful book.

@PeterKaitlyn 11 месяцев назад

I do not know what I do not know... but what I do know, is that I will never stop learning, and exploring the limits of my ignorance... PK

@kevinb3812 11 месяцев назад

What a great lady! Smart and pro-education, what’s not to love!

@mariesinging7654 11 месяцев назад

Ladies are always leading the parade for justice!!😇💯

@chrisyacoback6320 11 месяцев назад

Excellent interview Lawrence. Thank you and your guest 🇺🇸

@rodmcdaniel8644 11 месяцев назад

Intellect & Grace, Insight & Humility, listening attentively . . . what a wonderful person!

@paulettelacey4243 11 месяцев назад

Truly, Truly

@wesmahan4757 11 месяцев назад

Just 47 "likes"?? Everyone in America should watch this interview. I'm going to Powell's Bookstore in Portland (3 blocks from where I live) and buy her book in the morning.

@TheRealCrimdor 11 месяцев назад

Y’all Portland folk sure need to do a lot more reading considering what’s happening to your state.

@benjaminchisolmjr7863 11 месяцев назад

Man this what dirty desantis fears truth to power that clown would ban her from Florida because the truth would shatter his ego.

@thereallycool 11 месяцев назад

@@TheRealCrimdoryou clearly do not know of what you speak.

@thereallycool 11 месяцев назад

Powell's bookstore is fantastic! I live hours away from there , but I have bought books there everytime I am in Portland.

@deborahrivera6064 11 месяцев назад

@@TheRealCrimdor Open your eyes and mind..."Y'all" need to read this book yourself

@B.Nice777 11 месяцев назад

This is very humbling. Awesome acknowledgment and recognition of Mr. Lewis!!!

@BrendaHeeligan 11 месяцев назад

He’s badly missed. John Lewis had so much integrity.

@dalemartinez1086 11 месяцев назад

I put it on my library wish list right away. I had to put it "on hold."

@donmilland7606 11 месяцев назад

she's wonderful!

@user-fg2ts3wq9q 11 месяцев назад

So hopeful and comforting

@rhondah1587 11 месяцев назад

I am but a few years younger than Ms. Faust and grew up and still live in the deep south. Living through those times and experiencing what was going on is something our younger people cannot fully grasp. She is such a brilliant communicator and I hope to read her book soon. It galls me to see so many of our fellow citizens be duped into wanting to go backwards in time to a very dark and vile place in our history as if it would be something good. We must strive forward and continue to preserve the hard won progress since those times. If every person is not afforded the exact same human and civil rights as the next person, then we have failed as a society.

@thunderswag1249 11 месяцев назад

That to me is the American Dream

@ktinxx 11 месяцев назад

"Everything you learn should make you uncormfortable, because learning is about growing and changing." - Drew Gilpin Faust, 2023

@TheAmazingBladezo 11 месяцев назад

Mr. O'Donnell's work helps me learn to put current events in historical perspective in order to understand what's happening now. I think he's a poet.

@heatherc2939 11 месяцев назад

What a lovely comnent. You're the tops. ❤

@TheAmazingBladezo 11 месяцев назад

@@heatherc2939 No, YOU. Thank you, thankyewverymuch!

@marybravado6787 11 месяцев назад

@@heatherc2939💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

@anamerican8399 11 месяцев назад

He’s one of Our Greatest News Anchors- Journalists- Teachers. Americans and the World are Blessed to have him.

@anaiis_salles 11 месяцев назад

I'm an older 'dog' in this democracy fight, and for me Lawrence O'Donnell is holding the reins of Walter Cronkite, a journalist who kept us steady in known facts during another very troubling period in our short national history of being the United (we hope) States.

@jhoigaar 11 месяцев назад

WOW, Lawrence, another dynamite Guest! I hope to show this to my college students, especially since in 1895, Harvard wouldn't even let a woman be a Graduate Student.

@JuliaHullmann 11 месяцев назад

Amazing and moving interview! I will read that book with great delight. Excerpts from her letter to Eisenhower were deeply moving to me. That woman is a prime example of how much good the world free thinkers do!

@fuzzamajumula 11 месяцев назад

Wow! Judge Faust has lived through one heck of a lot of history!

@charlieirish-borrego6262 11 месяцев назад

Lawrence, this is truly one of your best interviews ever. So grateful you are in my life. Charlie

@alwa6954 11 месяцев назад

What a wonderful woman. It's people like her who need to be heard on the national stage.

@paulettelacey4243 11 месяцев назад

Yeah

@MysticCowboyMedia 11 месяцев назад

Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is very dangerous.

@pattimontgomery1317 11 месяцев назад

HoooooBoy! She speaks truth! Very close to my upbringing in Mississippi!

@geenadasilva9287 11 месяцев назад

i think that a lack of intellectual humility is a sure sign of dangerous stupidity. What a marvelously brave lady. thanks for posting.

@fuzzamajumula 11 месяцев назад

I miss John Lewis. 😢Bless that good man.

@pkass2895 11 месяцев назад

When I was young I remember my mother making fun of books being banned in Boston. Funny how history repeats itself when people refuse to learn. This memoir is now on my reading list. Thank you.

@Nemo-yn1sp 11 месяцев назад

Wow - I have to read this - her words resonate with me. I've often said that learning is painful, but it's short lived if we stay at it and we grow stronger from it. I had my first stand as a environmental activist at age 10 when I refused to burn the garbage at my family's rural upstate NY farm in 1966. I've been working on that everywhere I've lived since. Now I'm in Florida and the fight seems unwinnable. Though illegal, people burn everything from couches and tires to TVs in their front yards, no less. Absolutely nuts, but so are their seditionist flags and now anti-American laws that support ignorance, inculcation, and anger. I was a teacher here, now retired. I miss it, but could no way return to a classroom here, not even as a volunteer. I taught elementary grades, sometimes just History. No way could I lie or omit the truth. Necessary trouble - exactly so.

@bernadetteramos1940 11 месяцев назад

Wonderfully enlightening story

@derrickhoward1847 11 месяцев назад

Bravo!!!

@mistiecantey1 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for reminding us that if good people pull together, we can get through this and come out better.

@conniegrant939 10 месяцев назад

👍🏾

@emmahardesty4330 11 месяцев назад

Thank you, Lawrence. Gilpin Faust perfectly expresses for so many other Whites of her generation the shock, pain, and disgust, and finally the changes our country needed then. And now.

@breal7277 11 месяцев назад

Keep banning those books. If you do, guess what the teens will want to read? I remember when I was visiting an aunt in my early twenties, that she advised me not to read a particular book but recommended another one instead. Well, I couldn't wait to get home so I could go buy and read the banned book. LOL.

@carlyar5281 11 месяцев назад

My children are preteens, and I have told them “if you want to know what books to read, look at which books are being banned”.

@conniegrant939 10 месяцев назад

We go for what’s nanny or denied

@michaelengland6534 11 месяцев назад

What a great interview and sn awesome person that she is!

@sumernoel1553 11 месяцев назад

Wow, that was soothing & powerful & inspirational & beyond. Lawrence, you are really taking this season of your career to show up in a completely new way to meet the moment we are in. You are absolutely making “necessary trouble” with your nightly broadcasts. 👏 And Gilpin Faust….what a woman! And what an example of everything we should strive for. For standing up for higher learning, expertise, history, civics & doing it with a humbleness and grace that is disarming. Beautiful, poignant, & so timely. Florida is a good place. I graduated in Florida before all this madness. There are amazing teachers/professors & schools. Please, Florida, get these anti learning legislators out of political office. Florida deserves better.

@priscillarobb647 11 месяцев назад

Lady Drew Faust , you make me cried while learning/listening your passion for the rights of others.

@conniegrant939 10 месяцев назад

I, as a 75 year old woman, was crying too, as she spoke about the history of my people.

@Dan-ud8hz 11 месяцев назад

“It is no disparagement to truth, that it can only prevail where reason prevails. War begins where reason ends. The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion.” ― Frederick Douglass, Collected Articles of Frederick Douglass

@teetime3421 11 месяцев назад

This is beautiful but the struggle continues, it is NOT in the rear view mirror.

@jamiboothe 11 месяцев назад

To know that you don`t know, is the sacred foundation for learning any thing you would wish to know more of.

@dougmccallum878 11 месяцев назад

Great interview with a very inspiring lady, going by the conversation the book is a must read.

@fuzzamajumula 11 месяцев назад

Fascinating. All that time, she didn't know that she was playing the good guy in those lawn skirmishes.

@robertcowan7610 11 месяцев назад

I had many professors, only a few of which i would say were uncommonly exceptional. I wish dearly that I could have counted this remarkable woman amongst them. I'm sure my experiences would have been more rich and rewarding if that had been the case.

@paulinetaylor451 11 месяцев назад

Yes, let's realise the dream. Thank you, Lawrence, Drew and Martin Luther King. Envisaging a world where the news focuses on the educated, intelligent, thoughtful, kind hearted people. So many wonderful humans to broadcast.

@joijencuyah2345 11 месяцев назад

Powerful story! Thank you for having this amazing woman speak! Such an honor!

@robinlennon2580 11 месяцев назад

This sounds like an awesome book. I was too young by10 yrs to be part of movement but I felt it for all humanity.❤️❤️🙏🙏

@westislandkev 11 месяцев назад

What an amazing, inspirational discussion. Another immensely enjoyable, high-quality segment.

@patcomerford5596 11 месяцев назад

These historical contradictions have become today's hypocrisies.😢

@Doc5thMech 11 месяцев назад

What an impressive introduction, such a stunning accomplishment for the lifetime of this fine individual. Who would have thought of such a Quacker initiative!

@conniegrant939 10 месяцев назад

Truly, a spirit of love, the love of our creator.

@katushawatkins1922 11 месяцев назад

Excellent guest. I'll be certain to read her book. EXCELLENT!

@josephjones825 11 месяцев назад

I bet you "reed and rite reel gud to". 😂

@B.Nice777 11 месяцев назад

This is what humanity looks like!!

@B.Nice777 11 месяцев назад

@@josephjones825🤦‍♂️

@heatherc2939 11 месяцев назад

@katushawatkins agree!

@t.d108 11 месяцев назад

Love the Cover of this book.

@ragauerk9310 11 месяцев назад

She speaks my soul, and experience.

@robertPalawan 11 месяцев назад

Wonderful interview!!!

@ianpatrick3589 11 месяцев назад

History is teaching us daily. How we accept things demonstrates our learning. Recently all of us were taught that politicians can lie legally. What I am learning is that for many that is a prerequisite to their own personal concept of success. The rest of the world doesn't matter. Time to stir things up.

@conniegrant939 10 месяцев назад

Time for necessary trouble

@jerryc7 11 месяцев назад

What a great example of an American and her grasp of what it takes to learn and understand a national tragedy. She accepted the lesson that "humility is a prerequisite for being educated".

@TT-di4qz 11 месяцев назад

I absolutely adore this lady! I will be adding this book to my collection. ❤

@franknemeth7430 11 месяцев назад

A beautiful interview .

@b.comeau2597 11 месяцев назад

Just ordered this book! Thank you for such an inspiring interview with a most remarkable woman I had never heard of!

@berthabridges3483 11 месяцев назад

I feel like crying. What an eye opener to realize as I was learning to "get back if you're Black." A little girl 👧 far away was realizing something was wrong with this picture. 😕

@debsylvester2012 11 месяцев назад

This was one of your top ten best shows! You should repeat this episode it is so meaningful. Thank you! Keep going!☮️🇺🇸

@yvonneplant9434 11 месяцев назад

Faust was one of my professors when she was teaching at UPenn. Fabulous person.

@HULongSprinter79 11 месяцев назад

Lawrence, Thank you. I was able to find Drew Gilpin Faust's book "Necessary Trouble" in my local Florida public library and quickly reserved it this morning.

@jimbrown1559 11 месяцев назад

Hers will be the next book I read!

@sheilabatey492 11 месяцев назад

What a wonderful woman, segregation is absolutely disgusting we all bleed the same colour no matter what skin colour is showing on the outside. It is absolutely shocking what is happening in Florida's schools I really believe DeSantis will try to bring back segregation.

@conniegrant939 10 месяцев назад

And other states also banning books, banning African-American history, banning slavery, which is all American history.

@bluerockcomputingllc4143 11 месяцев назад

Cheers! Bravo! Thank you, Lawrence, for embracing truth with such vigor! Drew's story is profound!

@RevCeleste 11 месяцев назад

I was born in 1952 and still remember segregated bathrooms, water fountains and movie theaters from my youth. I rebelled against that at an early age and was always getting into necessary trouble myself. It not only sends me but makes me angry to no end to see how far backwards we have moved since Trump came on the scene! It's pathetic that only about 30% of eligible voters bother to get out and vote when things are in such Dire Straits. It is incumbent upon everyone who believes in democracy to make sure that you are registered to vote and then to vote in every single election.

@nancychestnut8928 11 месяцев назад

Powerful episode. Thanks to you both for the enlightenment. Well done.

@cynthiajackson5036 11 месяцев назад

Thank you, and your guest (a great person). Lawrence you never disappoint me. I will make sure to get this book.

@rebeccaelle135 11 месяцев назад

A wonderful interview, Lawrence. Humility is a major component of greatness.

@pilargonzalez8442 11 месяцев назад

What a wonderful lady!! God bless people like her, who are willing to really see an America in union, in equality as it was supposed to be. It's heart breaking to see how the Republican party wishes to go back into their (dark!!) history and be against peace, love and equal justice for all. U.S. red states are becoming not just scary, but anti evolution of the U.S. from our perspective here in Europe. May Ms. Faust keep sharing her wisdom worldwide!!!

@conniegrant939 10 месяцев назад

Mr. Lawrence. You always have great interviews with some great people. I , for a moment, was speechless listening to this young lady. As a mature African woman, I was just graduating from high school during those times in 1965. I just want to say to her how much I appreciate how very heart and soul of my people who have suffered so much and this country may she be greatly blessed as she continues her life’s journey. THANK YOU MS. FAUSE👍🏾❤️

@anamerican8399 11 месяцев назад

Thank you, Lawrence for having such a Wonderful Guest; an Enlightening show, and part of Our Ongoing Education🇺🇸💙🇺🇦🌻🔔

@jimmeek7849 11 месяцев назад

It's really sad that people want to exclude bits of history that are so central and important to our democracy.

@acebaker3623 11 месяцев назад

OMG! I love that!: "Everything you learn should make you uncomfortable!" That is an educator.

@bzb2932 11 месяцев назад

I'm getting this book for my granddaughter who will enter high school this Fall. She doesn't live in Florida, but in another red state in the south and those influences are reprehensible to me. We must counter these influences any way we can.

@juanm9182 11 месяцев назад

Lawrence, this is one of the most interesting of all your guests! Inspiring.🙏🏼You Rock!!!🎖️🙏🏼⭐️

@johnmyers6117 11 месяцев назад

"The notion that nothing you learn should make you feel uncomfortable." This notion is what authoritarians desire. It means no change. It means stasis, which authoritarianism produces. True learning creates change, innovation and a sense of a better future. It takes strong and brave people to learn and change. This is part of the responsibility of a citizen of a democracy.

@nebtheweb8885 11 месяцев назад

Authoritarians want to take us backwards, definately not forward, back to the late 19th century and before if they have their way. That being said, authoritarianism when mixed with over zelous religious conservatism are how countries end up with Popes, Ayatollas, Talibans, and or any other lifetime-appointed dictator like Little Kim, Furors (Hitler), Sadam Hussain, Omar Kadafe, Stalin, B. Mussolini, Putin , and Mango Mussolini, the wannabe dictator of the USA. That last guy is a clear and present danger as is that book banning fool of a governor in Florida.

@davidoconnell1595 10 месяцев назад

I found myself in tears. It has been longer than I can remember that someone expressed high ideals as a necessity of everyday life. Public discourse has degenerated into such a morass of market-tested sloganeering from all sides that I had almost given up hope. I am the same age and was active in civil rights. I ended up in the Army and learned of Dr. King’s death from an English-language newspaper while on leave in Kyoto. I did not feel as heartsick as I did that day until the January 6th attack on the capital. Thank you for reminding me that my country has not gone under entirely.

@ClarityDetermination 11 месяцев назад

This is one of the most important and satiating interviews that I have ever heard. 🇨🇦

@donmilland7606 11 месяцев назад

Dr, Drew!!!!!

@twilde3754 11 месяцев назад

Great interview. On my list of what to read next. Thank you!

@tex24 11 месяцев назад

Fantastic and inspiring segment, Lawrence. Thank you.

@berthabridges3483 11 месяцев назад

"I don't measure America by its achievement but by its potential." ~ Shirley Chisholm (1924-2005), American educator, late member of the U. S. House of Representatives and writer. 🗽

@will5286 11 месяцев назад

GREAT--I was unaware of Ms. Gilpin's work-looking forward to the read-Thanks

@antoniopapi 11 месяцев назад

Great interview. The emotional and intellectual depth of this lady is astonishing! The US needs leaders like her....

@thereallycool 11 месяцев назад

I have a new book to read. I bet my daughter would love a copy as well. Thank you for this video.

@IsaDesOsiers 10 месяцев назад

What a fantastic interview! This is a classic! Thank you, Lawrence O'Donnell for giving us the chance to hear this remarkable scholar, Drew Gilpin Faust.

@stevenwilgus5422 10 месяцев назад

I experienced the great benefit of learning to read from my next door neighbor--who was a teacher in a Friends school and herself a Quaker woman in my Quaker established home town of Woodbury, New Jersey, back when it really mattered. Thank you, Mrs. Grace Fuller.

@eh1702 11 месяцев назад

What a fantastic interview. I am going to be looking for this book on the other side of the Atlantic.

@beverlyb6391 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for Drew Gilpin Faust interview.

@magginicshiomoin9810 11 месяцев назад

Lawrence, thanks for the interview with this prescient Harvard President. There is no limitation to the knowledge we can acquire each day. Unless I learn something new each day, I will be bored with life, and quite lifeless, lethargic and unenthusiastic 😊

@elenalatici9568 11 месяцев назад

My New Hampshire born niece has just celebrated her 40th birthday. She has also, because of a job opportunity for her husband, moved to Alabama. I'm going to send her that book.

@davedon260 11 месяцев назад

If you are looking for the definition of a saint, this awesome lady is the answer. She reminds me of my grandma Angelina, who just doesn’t know how to hate. Shout out to ❤ all the lovers.