@@mursebobby408 honestly not sure, my Glock 20 has a custom stipple job on the grip making it very similar but other than that, nothing else I can think of
Just a little FYI, the H&K USP .45-T is the ONLY .45 on Earth that DOESN'T need to change a thing to shoot .45 Super...The FNX, Glock, whoever, have to swap barrels and definitely spring-guide rods...The H&K can shoot a steady diet with 0 issues...Hope this helps...
If you tried shooting suppressed, you would understand the extra length. Some pistons are short, that's why the barrel needs to be longer. There are tons of threaded barrels I can't use with a couple of my cans that use short pistons. Many of the silencerco cans won't work without a special long style piston.
I have both too. Both are damn great too! Great thing is, if you have a Rugged Obsidian 45 can, you can put it on both no mod or problem necessary! Great pistol!
On the trigger topic the fnx45 has the ability to double strike the same round which can be advantageous for clearing ammo related malfunctions. With striker fired pistols you have to rack the slide to clear a dud but a DA/SA allows you to hit the same round multiple times and potentially fire the round.
That is a bonus but with good premium ammo the need to double strike a primer in a bad situation would be extremely low with no guarantee that the second strike will send the bullet flying.
Call me old school or whatever but I really like the hammer, thumb safty, and the double action. I am aware that this makes the trigger a bit different feeling and functioning but as a carry/protection tool I prefer fnx45 over the striker fired! Thumb safety is a must for me on semi auto!
I purchased the fnx 45 tactical last week & I tell myself why I didn't purchase it before what an awesome pistol I love it I'm waiting on a IWB holster I'll be carrying this bad boy for sure i have no issues if is bigger than the others I carry is all about preference if you ask me
I have the FNX-45T and a 509t and I love the FNX. Obviously diff pistols but a lot of 509 t and 545 characteristics are similar. This comparison is almost like comparing my glock 19 to my 92FS. BOTH great pistols but completely different animals. Stricker fired vs hammer not comparable. Good over all video
One thing I have noticed is that dry firing just about any FN handgun versus actually shooting them at the range are two totally different things. With that being said, my FN 509 LS Edge is super gritty, but that grittiness has no real impact on my shooting at the range. I will give you that the FN 45 FNX is oily smooth. Also, the longer barrel I believe gives you more accuracy. So a longer barrel with a smoother trigger gives you a better system, in my opinion. I would not say that one is better than the other, but just different. I will never get rid of my FNX .45. Also, I believe that FN modified the trigger in the FN 545 to give it a tighter feel by making the reset shorter and zero take-up. I have not handled the 545, but looking at the trigger action in this video makes me believe that is true, as I own both the LS and a regular 509.
I think most people would agree the fnx45 is a better looking gun for sure. Also, it seems like your motive on downplaying the Fnx was to boost their sales on the 545 hoping for a sponsor or something. The FNx is the best .45 acp handgun on the market. Some will try to argue the hk45 but the 545 just doesn’t stack up IMO. You also made a comment on the Barrel length of the FNx. 45 acp jhp tend not to expand with shorter barrels. So having a 5inch+ barrel on a 45 acp handgun is ideal. That’s like asking why 10.5 AR over 7.5 5.56. Better ballistic capability
I agree the FNX-45 was the best 45 on the market which is why I love mine. That was the best until the improved 545 came out. Either really boils down to preference though. I don't want a sponsorship with any manufacturer because I love being able to offer unbiased videos and articles.
I think the FN545 is a better *LOOKING* pistol but looks have little to do with how a pistol shoots and that we do not know so, that said, until we have knowledgeable people shooting both or individuals shooting them it’s all conjecture.
@@WDLC1911 right, but like I said. The fnx has a longer barrel which helps with velocity which is important for jhp expansion. Has a better trigger. And the heft of the gun makes it shoot like a compact 9mm. But, it’s all about preference and what you train with.
@@2realink279 the minuscule decrease in barrel length won’t make a difference in JHP bullet expansion. The 230 grain JHP is subsonic and the cartridges are designed to expand within a “velocity window”. I’ve shot some 509T pistols and the triggers vary quite a bit. A good one is about 6 lbs with a smooth take up, very crisp break and a longer than I’m used to trigger reset. The bad ones were either or heavier, gritty take up and less than crisp trigger break.
Well they're two different guns, not made to be compared with each other. The FNX45 T was made for military combat use and was later released to the civilian market, while the FN 545 is just a .45 cal of their civilian 5 series striker fire line. Yes, cosmetics are different for a reason. The FNX45 T mags are made with a really large and weighted base plate for a more efficient mag release/drop, and a longer barrel as everyone should know equates to higher accuracy and bullet velocity. There were no mistakes when each of these gun were made, they' re marketed toward two different applications. In my opinion, I don't believe these guns deserve a comparison video, if anything they deserve educational points so the buyer can decide what gun fits their intent of use.
However, so many people wanted to see them side by side, which is why I made the video. They are both different guns for sure, but both 45 acp offerings from a great company, so why not see them next to each other since they are really so similar in size and weight?
I disagree. The 509 FDE tactical was created for and entered into the M17 modular handgun military trials. They simply didn’t win because the cost of each unit was too high for the likes of a mass purchase from the government but FN decided to sell to the high demand civilian market anyway and keep the new innovations in their more modern designs. More than likely if FN would have won the military trials, they would have released the 545 to the military for a .45 caliber contract that would have replaced the FNX because the 545 is a more modern design and same platform as the 509 that was already entered into the trials. Not to mention the fact that all of their guns come off the same assembly line. There is not a separate assembly line for their products of military contracts so there really isn’t a civilian specific marketed model. It is more the case that it is just a coincidence that the FNX is the only FN handgun model currently holding a contract with the U.S. military.
@@adammertens785 still not to be compared though. The fact still remains they’re two different handguns. That’s like comparing Sigs P226 to their M17 (P320) because they’re both chambered in 9mm and have military contracts. What type of logic is that to use?
Well the 545 is almost 2 mm smaller circumference around the grip. I have little sissy girl hands so my FNX always felt a bit too large even with the smallest backstrap. I am excited to get my hands on one. It will be an adjustment because I am so used to that safety. Thanks for the video and the comments.
I have to laugh when I hear people talk about "how hard it is to conceal full size guns.". LOL MY EDC is the FNX 45 Tactical with a 5.3" threaded barrel, suppressor height sights, a Trijicon RMR, and a double stack 15 round magazine... plus TWO extra magazines. I conceal carry it every day, everywhere, year round, without ANY problem with either comfort OR concealment... LOL
Not everyone has that option. It mostly depends on your stature. Size, both height and weight contribute highly to one's ability to conceal a pistol. Environment, level of comfort while carrying, and holster type all play their part as well as level of imprinting and the clothes you wear.
I think you had some valid points there, and I appreciate your opinion thanks for the review. Didnt see anyone in the comments mention the fact that you can convert fnx 45 to decocker only so ill add that. That grip angle is definitely an upgrade on the 545T. Hopefully Apex makes a sweet trigger for it and a upgraded firing pin. I just had a light primer strike yesterday with my brand new 509T and some 115gr ammo inc jhp. I'm going to get the apex firing pin asap hoping it helps (didn't break, that i know of.... better check lol.. but still freaked me out), probably do a full disassembly and ultrasonic, lube and reinstall for now. Both sweet pews my man 💪
Sir, be careful 509s trigger are bitch to work with, you may want to get jig along with trgger , check it out you'll see what I'm saying. Good luck and stright shooting.
That's exactly what we strive to do with each review. The technical stuff is great but sometimes people just want to hear an honest opinion and rundown of the product.
Barrel on fnx tactical is longer because, longer barrels and or rail mounted accessories that extend beyond the length of the slide help to ensure a full range of motion for the slide, to mitigate failure to feed in situations where the firearm is pressed against an individual/object. While it sounds like a textbook definition I promise that’s my brains way of thinking 😂
Thanks for this comparison. A FN 510 may be my first FN. I was curious about the difference. I will use a chest holster for the 510 and carry on my property near the Mexican border. Look forward to shooting the 510 on steel targets with my gun club friends, too. CCW is very different farther inland at the house and in town, and the 510 will not be for CCW.
I CC my 510 with a comp, x300 and steiner mps with the 15rd mag in the gun and 22 mag in the mag holder in my teir1 msp. Coming from carrying a g17 it's not bad and who can beat 38 rounds of 10mm🤷♂️
I bought the fnx 45 about 6 months ago have put over 500 rounds through it and never activated the safety while shooting. The problem I see with people owning the fnx 45 tactical is if you have never owned a 1911 or trained with a 1911 you will make the mistake of making g your grip high then knocking the safety on. It is a 1911 noob problem. The safety/ decocker on the fnx 45 is nice and tight for me and my big hands. If your hand follows the lines you won't have a problem.
My favorite platform to shoot is the 1911. A 1911 safety does not come down on the frame as low as the FNX plus totally different grip angles. I have a very high grip on pistols.
Have both the 45T and the 509ct. *Love* the 45T. Put apex baseplates on the mags which work great. Put the apex trigger on the 509 and it was a dramatic improvement. Love it.
@@thomascozart1095 I wouldn't try it without their jig, which is very solid. My local gunsmith said that they had several people badly scratch the frame trying to get the pin out. I chickened out and opted to let my gs do it. I have to say, though, that the difference was night an day. For the "fun" of it, I did go ahead and install the enhanced mag release and improved striker myself. If I can do it (following their how-to video) anyone can do it.
I have a Apex trigger for my 509 that's collecting dust. After case after case of ammo the stock trigger just felt more broke in over time. Probably around 10-15k rounds through it and the stock trigger feels great.
I'll take my FNX45Tactical over the FN545 everytime. If you're itchin' to spend a $1,000 bucks, buy some more .45 ACP ammo, continue to feed your FNX and keep grinnin'. PEN/SWORD USMC '67-'69 Semper Fi
The biggest difference between the two is the FNX45 is hammer fired and the 545 is striker fired. Longer barrel= more velocity= more power. I would use the gun for hunting and home protection so I prefer the longer barrel. Hammer fired da/sa guns are also far superior to striker guns with a superior trigger and manual safety/decocker. They are also safer to carry versus the striker fired 545 with no safety and crap trigger. Just my opinion. Thanks for the video.
While I haven't shot the 545, I do have an FNX and a few 509s. The FNX trigger is honestly the worst trigger I have ever used in any gun. It's long. In every aspect. DA/SA guns should have a short, light SA mode. That is not the case in the FNX. I will admit it is smooth, but I short-stroke it plenty, a problem I don't have with other DA/SA guns. Striker guns are plenty safe (giving Sig a good side-eye here), and the hinged trigger will be enough safety on the 545, just as it is on the 509. I find the 509 triggers to be much better than Sigs and Glocks, so if the 545 is the same (as I expect it to be), then it will blow the FNX out of the water. The half-inch of extra barrel isn't really going to give a noticeable difference. All of that being said, the FNX is good, but to say it's far superior is BS
@@WDLC1911it’s negligible, I don’t think anyone getting shot is going to think, “man, if that 45 cal bullet was going 890fps instead of 875fps I’d be a goner.”
Traded my FNP45 for the 545 and absolutely no regret! The 545 is an amazing pistol, the FNP did have a better trigger but as an overall package I would recommend the 545 all day. With the holosun eps gr mrs it puts 15 in the size of a silver dollar at 25 yards. That is off a rest. Can't wait for my DARA holster to come in.
I need another fnx45 before its discontinued. The problems you listed aren't problems to me. I daily mine for the last 5yrs. Lol The real 45 collector. (Full Size) - FNX 45 Tactical - HK USP 45 Tactical (Discontinued) - S&W 2.0 Tactical (Discontinued) - Springfield XDM Tactical (Discontinued) - Glock Gen 3 Austrian version Tactical (been discontinued) - Glock 21 Gen 5 MOS (adding TB) - CZ 97b (discontinued) - CZ P10 F 45 (Extremely rare and Discontinued/low production) - Kimber 1911 custom Tactical (1,000 made) - Kimber Black Ice Rapide (limited production) - Springfield 1911 Loaded MC Operator (unsure if low production or limited edition) - Desert Eagle 45 - Sig Equinox 45 - Walther PPQ 45 (Discontinued) - Beretta pX4 Storm Type F (not sure if their discontinued but you cannot find. The limited production model was the LE fde model type F) - American Ruger 45 (hard to find) - Ruger SR45 (Discontinued 2017) All I need currently to every 45 on the market made is - Hipoint 45 - Kahr cm45 - Sar K2 45 - FN 545 Tactical - HK45 Tactical Older models I would like to have (45) - GM Liberator 45 - Ruger P90 - Colt premium or limited production 1911 - 1911 Polymer - SMG 45 - Kriss Vector 45 If I miss any text me below so I can add to my collection/museum.
@@daddybone305 the FN545 just came out a little while back. As a collector and speculator I believe it will soon be discontinued. I doubt they will wanna make 2 45's. HK still has 2 45's but we will see. Still I'd get both FN's.
On the Kahr, stick to the K, P, or PM line. The triggers on the C line are different and not as good. PM45 is a great carry weapon. There is no K45, just K9 and K40.
@@lancedooley7558 I really like Kahr pistols and have a collection. MeproLight night sights are the way to go. Magazines are readily available. The trigger is smooth and always the same with no reset to learn, just all the way forward. Kind of like a squirt gun. Even the little P380 is a good shooter and fun on the range. The P9 Covert is an excellent CCW - the long nosed mouse. Looking forward to my first FN other than the Brownings.
If FN could figure out their triggers, I could see their asking prices. Considering it's about the same feeling trigger in an older M&P for 1/2 the price, I've never seen the reason. I'm gonna Apex either. I do really like both these models however. The 545 in particular.
Favorite guns I own FNX 45 Tactical with Romeo 1, P226 RX Legion, and CZ RAMI with Romeo X (my EDC). All SA/DA with de-cockers. I rented many guns (often much more expensive) before buying and these that I picked out, have all been great! I also have some striker fire and internal hammer pistols that I like, but these are my favorites, that I have shot in local Combat League and IDPA. Cheers
Correction. The mags ARE interchangeable. I spoke with FN this morning with product development. The tube is exactly the same along with the follower. You do have to change the spring and baseplate to make them work in the 545. Take both baseplates off and take a look to see if FN is correct as I do not own the 545 YET. I'm passing along what FN told me. I checked one out yesterday and the grit is in the striker channel, just like a bunch of 509's. The striker safety plunger was smooth as glass as I pushed it down verifying that the grit is in the striker channel. A better trigger is really not needed if the striker channel is smoothed out and the striker spring is polished. After that, the trigger will get better.
If you need to change base pads and springs they are really not compatible. Yes it probably works doing so but you would have to ourchase base pads and springs which at that point just buy new mags. Compatibility to me means not having to modify anything and slapping a mag in either gun.
I don’t care about the fnx mags fitting in the 545 I care about the 545 mags fitting in the fnx. I want a 22 round extended mag for my FNX. Since the only one who makes an extended mag for the FNX is PROMAG and they are HOT GARBAGE and don’t even cycle.
@@PEWPEWNATION I think you missed my point. If one has 10 FNX mags, and they ditch the FNX for the 545, they would spend around $19 to convert each mag=$190. Go buy 10 new 545 mags which might =$475. So you would rather spend almost $300 more? If so, then have at it and piss away your $300.
@@chase472 If the magazine bodies are the same...the 18rnd mags will work with the FNX-45. Most likely require some trimming of the spacer/base plate...5 min mod with a hacksaw.
I got the 545 couple weeks ago and I don't think the trigger is that bad though ive not fired live rds yet , but I replaced the trigger on my 509 just a week or so after purchase so we'll see hope 545 trgger will pan out if not I'll be looking for up graded triggers. All in all for me i like the 545 over x45 because I don't care for decocker just gotten use to no safety after couple summer of training with x military guys tought me better discipline. For me it was.a.choice because it was easier for me to learn that there was no safety so it was one less thing , best safety is training. Just my opinion.
I wouldn’t get hung up so much on the trigger as a owner of a 509 can confirm they have a gritty trigger (when new) but once you put about 100-150 rounds through it the trigger smooths up, absolutely love the 509 will be purchasing the 510 then the 545 for sure now after seeing the comparison
Not trying to pee on your boots , but in the south price and availability for 10mm not sure it would be worth it FOR me. Good luck and have a blessed day.
Chill bro, don't go down that road or you'll get too distracted to see that life can be good. And listen to your dad, if he's a good man, he'll guide you to do the right thing until you can make your own decisions.✌️
As an FN 509 owner, I can tell you that over time, the trigger will smooth out (after around 500 to 1000 rounds). That said, there are tons of other options to replace it if you feel a need, and I assume that will be the case for the 545 as well.
I got the FN 45 tactical as an offensive pistol. It has every feature that the SOCOM mk 23 except for the slide lock. Can't be beat. Ambi EVERYTHING. Fucking workhorse. Bought an IWB Alien Gear Holster as a meme... it's now my primary carry weapon.
Lock the slide back on your FNX45 tactical notice how the Barrel moves back half an inch and your guide ride doesn't ..guide rod is really close to the barrel it's longer to ensure that you don't bottom your suppressor out on your guide rod
I did that with mine, haven't shot it enough for a endorsement yet but I love it so far! If you do convert it I suggest you get into hand loading if your not already doing so unless you are well off financially.
Well now this is a interesting video and a interesting comparison. Myself personally I will take the FNX 45 tactical anytime over the 545. I also own the fn 509 9 mm and I just don't really care for that platform.
yes. seems like very first comment or latest rather was on point. but has anyone noticed that he is comparing apples to oranges? not to mention the inherent issue with replacement of factory triggers in most casrs. are those both true 1911s? anf maybe now i can investigate a new barrel with opposite rifling. dont like thinking about muzzle attachments coming loose
Still in the waiting period for my FN 510. There are no improved triggers available yet for the 510/545. But I'm sure that will change soon. Saw a post from a 510 owner that stated he got rid of the gritty trigger by polishing the striker, Striker Spring and sear faces. I've read, the 510 has a different breach face and extractor position than the 545, so a caliper change would not be as easy as just a barrel swap. BUT, I've seen they are selling 510 and 545 slide assembly kits. I have to wonder if the slide assembly is swappable? At the same time, at $700+, getting another slide assembly for caliber swaps is not exactly practical, just slightly cheaper than just getting a 2nd pistol.
545 mags will work in the FNX if you either trim the baseplates on the 545 mags or swap them with FNX baseplates. The actual bodies of the magazines are the same.
I have a FNX 45 Tactical and I agree with you about the safety. When I grip it, my upper hand on the right side of the gun partially covers the safety. I don't like that, I also have a HK 45 tactical and I like that the safety is only on the left side. I wish the FNX was like that. I got it for 1-0-6-9(put it in this format; don't know how this commie platform would respond if I put it correctly). I think the FNX price will go just below 1k and the 545 will hover between 1-1-0-0 and 1-3-0-0. I definitely plan on getting the 545. After I get it my unicorn gun 45acp will be next...the Mark 23.
I watched and watched and watched, but cannot find you talking very much about the safety on the 545. That really concerns me a lot. As a matter of fact, all Stryker firearms that do not have a safety really bothered me. I do not consider that little finger clip thing they call a saftey on the trigger of a Glock a real saftey. That is just waiting for somebody to have an accidental discharge.
I don’t think one is necessarily better than the other since they are both high quality and hold 15 rounds. In a battle situation that will most likely never happen, I would take the hammer fired fnx in case of a light primer strike. I can also go ahead and throw a can on it and comes with 3 mags. However that safety could be life of death if not properly trained, hate safeties on pistols personally.
I see the advantage going to the FNX, for me. I need a bear country woods gun, and the FNX has the double/single action as well as being convertible to 460Rowland.
@@WDLC1911 no problem! I have a rugged obsidian that I’ve ran through some other friends threaded guns. FN makes great suppressor hosts so that’s why either option is a great choice. Hopefully you get a chance soon cause it’s a fun experience.
You compared the fnx 45 with thousands of rounds through it's trigger to a new 545 trigger. That is why its trigger feels better. Triggers wear with use.
Triggers on 509 series aren't that bad. Just need a break in period then it smooths out. But yeah, gotta put an apex on that when it becomes available.
I agree. I have a FNX 45T and both the 509T and 509c (I’m not interested in the new .45 pistol). Those guns are duty style, combat pistols and they have a duty/combat trigger. I’m an admitted trigger snob but I don’t mind a heavy trigger in a defensive pistol. The grit wears away with use. I don’t expect a light, buttery smooth competition trigger in a combat/defensive gun. If I want to go to the range and fan out over a trigger I’ll bring my Rival, Walther Q5 Match or my PDP Pro. That 509T may be my fav gun (either that or my upgraded CZ P07)
with the kind of money FN is charging for either pistol, why they didn't make one magazine both platforms could use is beyond me. I hate it when brands don't make interchangeable magazines for their own products.
I've seen 4 tests of the 509 platform in water on youtube and the hydro-lock is consistent. Only could find 1 test of the FNX 9mm in water, but that was locked back before it was chambered and fired without malfunctioning. I'm wondering if the switch from hammer to striker has caused this, or if the FNX platform also had water submersion issues that no one really tested for.
I conceal carry a FN five-seven Mark 3 with a extended large comp, acro p-2 with custom mount & mag extension . I only weigh 126 @ 5'9" tall. If I can do it, I'm sure you can
Bro, kill something with that 5.7 and eat it. 🤣 Just kidding man. I actually do carry my 5.7 MRD from time to time but I prefer my 509 CC Edges shorter grip for concealability
@@chltmdwp LOL no not at all. I carry that. That does not affect anything. Even when I tell someone to look at me and see if you can spot which no one does. If you're having an issue you may want to look at how your holster is setup and/or positioning
@@PEWPEWNATION LOL I like it. it's just I have to get used to it being taller. I carry a Gucci out 509 Tactical with a 2 lb trigger courtesy of M-carbo, Apex & polishing of all metals. I cerry one 17 mag & three 24 round mags. Holsters are made by North Coast Tactical. They're 100% custom made, even with my own image one them.
My friend I think you inadvertently justified why FN 545 is overpriced and why people’s negative opinion about it is valid. In the end of the day, aside from its more streamlined design it’s still an inferior product to its tried and true predecessor FNX 45. But then again FN has always been known for up charging for their inferior products. I personally would go with HK USP over both of them. But if I had to choose only one of these two then it’d be FNX 45 hands down.
@@PEWPEWNATION I understand, different strokes for different folks. It’s all good friend. I have had some experiences with them and ended up only keeping the FNX 45. Much like most I do too feel like 545 is actually overpriced for what it is and isn’t necessarily superior to the FNX. And it’s totally unrelated fact that I prefer hammer-fired over striker-fired. 😊 Best of luck in your future contents!
I WANTED to like the FNX 45. I bought one and sold it and then bought another and ended up selling that one too. When left loaded the mags would bind and not feed. I'm interested in a big 45, like a short guy with big trucks, so we'll see how this one is.
Great video, question: does the new grip angle on the 545 shorten the trigger reach as compared to the FNX? The long reach caused me to ditch the FNX. I have a medium hand. Thanks
