@@ivangarduno630 but it's in this game that Roxy gets the mask that she would have before Ruin. In fact, the game sorta ends with the start of Ruin, tho I know it's unclear on whether it's a recording or so.
@@a_balloon everybody is still arguing because most people follow what matpat/fuhnaff or the other popular theorists obsessed with charlie and circus baby say
@@firetobstertheultimate2732 Security breach had decent lore and all they had to do was extend it and finish it. Instead they scrapped it and began a completely new one built on its origins that now makes less sense than fan made theories
"Remember Jeremy" being both a call-back to HW1 and confirmation that the gravestones in Pizzeria Simulator's Lorekeeper ending and the heads in FNaF3's endings are connected is a nice use of achievements.
The hidden Bonnie mask looks like it’s going to create some interesting lore tie-ins possibly with either the original Bonnie or most importantly the bully from FNAF 4. MatPat is truly going to go on a road trip when he tries to piece it together.
I don’t know if this is plausible but what if Cassie’s dad was the same Jeremy who was Glitchtrap’s first victim? Hence the Bonnie mask possibly representing his cut off face in the Princess Quest chest
Cassie's model had a MAJOR upgrade! Her face and cheeks are less round and more well defined, her eyes are considerably larger and shinier. She looks like an anime character. adorable!
Players were never meant to see Cassie's model in Ruin anyway. The only time we do see it is from really far away, and the only way to see it better is to go in to free cam mode.
In the vanny ending when we get the bonnie mask ans it says "this looks familiar" it means that we are cassies dad and also the friend of foxy bro (michael) that wears the bonnie mask!! This is huge!!
We're not the bonnie mask guy. Theres loterally no evidwnce to support us being him. Also cassie's dad knows he loves bonnie as a character, why would he say "This look familiar"?
it makes sense, since its considered that the blue bonnie dude from fnaf 4 is cassies father, and mask bot has some random handmade bunny ears, and honestly would tie the whole "take this random mask that only employees recieve" thing really well but hey, its just a theory
i think there could be more but then people also "break' the games and find out if there is more and that kind of ruin's (ha pun) the experience of exploration in games... thus them moving on from said game to explore a different game , even though this series gets enough attention honesty but speaking more about alternative games and devs that aren't so popular... @@Fernandodsm18
The bonnie mask we find in the vanny ending leads me to believe we play as Cassie's dad and that he was one of the friends with Michael back during the bite of 83.
i’m pretty sure hw2 is a prequel to ruin. i believe we’re playing as cassie’s dad (which explains why we unlock a bonnie mask that “looks familiar”) and at the end he gets turned into the robot that gives cassie the mask in ruin.
4:20 i think the person you are playing as was friends with jeremy or had some connection to him, there’s no comma there like ‘remember, jeremy?’ which means you aren’t playing as jeremy but you have a memory of him.
Exactly bro… after the VA said “he” was in HW2 but didn’t specified… I was utterly excited that he was going to make an appearance since Security Breach was gonna be in it… but the massive disappointment I felt… has no description
The Candy Cadet story seems very similar to Mrs. Afton if you think about it. While the first story seems very generic, that it's hard for me to figuratively find any connections toward the Afton Family, it's the second story that catches my interest. Here me out: Obviously "the young woman" could be Mrs. Afton and "the witch" she follows into the woods could be referring to William. We know that she fallen for William and did love him for the man she saw him as. Though after the death of their son, the crying child, William slowly began to go mad. And no matter how many times Mrs. Afton tried to get William to focus on the family he refuses time and time again. He derailed from a happy future to one full of loss and suffering. Mrs. Afton knew that there was no changing William and the way he's was acting now and so decided to leave him and to not lead her to astray. But in doing so she lefted her other two children, Michael and Elizabeth. And knowing the tragic fated of each of her loved ones she managed to escape before she herself had a gruesome end. Though now carries the guilt of leaving.
@@PaxPandemoniumthe problem with it being Cassie at all is the fact that it says she is a grown woman when she returns. The person in the story growing up before seeking revenge rules out a lot of people tbh.
I agree with that, while the Mrs. Afton theory holds some weight I think this is Cassidy due to that. She would be physically hurt with only Roxy(depending on if Mimic didn’t scrap her while Roxy tried to protect her) to keep her company, running from the Mimic, her dad being missing if the Map Bot theory is correct AND her only friend basically sending her to her death to save their own hide. She has a LOT of reasons for revenge and the mental scars for it. Either way hope we get to see more of Cassie, Gregory, Vanessa, G. Freddy and Roxy in a future game. I have the sense the Afton storyline is behind us but the story of this bunch of people will be the next one.
Wait a second, is Candy Cadet's second story about the little girl lead into the dark forest by a witch the story of Cassie? Being lead into a dark forest (Rundown Pizzaplex), almost beaten (almost completely tricked), she had fallen for the friendly voice ("Gregory" aka Mimic copying Gregory's voice to lure her) and was lead astray (tricked to free Mimic), she had escaped before being thrown into the oven (escaping the Pizzaplex or rather Gregory letting the elevator crash with her inside, presumably breaking the Vanny Mask she was wearing in the process and "freeing her" from becoming completely taken over from it before it was too late), but would have a scar for the rest of her life (pretty self explanatory). It all seems to fit pretty well with what Cassie was going through.
I feel like the thing with the Bonnie mask really ties in that you're playing as The Bonnie bully. Especially if you think about the fact it's theorized he could also be Cassie's dad? Something must've of happened to him between this game and ruin I think
That the fact when you find Bonnie's masked it says it looks familiar then you get a Achievement lost luggage meaning the person who you play in HW2 was the owner of the mask
@@No_name8374I get what you’re saying, but you gotta think, it’s fnaf, they don’t care about being literal lol. Possibly he lost some of his memories from being in the vanny mask or it’s just been so long he lost some details. It’s all a theory but I do believe it’s cassies father we play as
@@SuperDababy2 okay fair enough but like.. Bonnie is supposed to be his favorite character! Why would he go? “This looks familiar” instead of being like “it’s a Bonnie mask”
Could it be that candy cadets 2nd story is a depiction of vannesa and how she was tricked into working for william? The vanny ending where she takes the mini glitch and destroys could represent her being free from glitch traps control
Perhaps Monty's still "too new" to be official part of the crew, while all others you mentioned are already official, as of Vanessa had been around and corrupted into Vanny.
Monty's present in a test map for the bowling minigame (according to TetraBitGaming), so he's at least in the game files. I wonder why they ended up canning him.
@@Fredcat11 Shame, I would find it hilarious if his role in the game was to ambush us from behind and our only way to defend was to throw the ball at him.
@@willropa4226 And ended up like what happened to Glamrock Bonnie in "Ruin"? Well, if that is real, then Bonnie would popping in and said, "How would'ya like the taste of that medicine, huh?".
Agreed, we never even got a Monty mission with Gator golf or anything. Kinda wish we had Foxy’s Log Ride replaced with Monty’s ride we see in Security Breach
@@lperino07 No confirmed title, but an educated guess from what they have said and what we have seen, it will be a game exploring the origins of Fazbear Entertainment
Man the bonnie mask really made me start thinking like why did we got it and why did the character said that it looks familiar could it be talking about glitchtrap🤔
I swear this game is fun and half the time the lore isn’t that bad but I personally think this game should had ended in fnaf pizzeria simulator. Lore is confusing but welcome to FNAF
There is, the cutscene of Cassie getting the Vanny mask. I believe this is supposed to connect Glitchtrap to the mimic. The mask hand off was premeditated in the Mimics escape.
What if the Jeremy who sliced his face off in the first help wanted was the kid in the bonnie mask in fnaf 4? And if matpat is right, then maybe that same guy is Cassie’s dad? Might be a stretch, but it’s fun to consider
@@edifiedermine9247 it’s more of how you interpret the line “it looks familiar” in reference to the fnaf 1 Bonnie mask. And taking into consideration that it’s usually the princess themselves giving these lines of dialogue and not the character we’re playing. In sb Gregory had basically no input in anything that happened within PQ1-3 mini games. And of course it being odd that Cassie’s dad would refer to his favorite character as “it looks familiar” rather then “it’s Bonnie” or whatever. And the fact it’s a fnaf 1 Bonnie mask and not any new or unique mask or hell the plastic Bonnie mask we got back with Hw1. Cause why would he have had a mask of a variation of a character that hadn’t even existed yet if it were to be the same person from fredbears.
@@No_name8374 cool! That’s a neat way to look at it, but a lot of stuff is also symbolic, so I think it’s still very possible for Cassie’s dad to be Jeremy, but who knows? :)
I have a theory on Cnady Cadet's limited time offer story. Many might think this is talking about Afton's family, but what if its talking about the missing children? They are told about a limited time offer with everything you can imagine. And once they accepted, they died. They didn’t pay with money they paid with their lives.
okay, I get it, the bonnie mask and Cassie's dad, blah blah blah HAVE NONE OF YOU SEEN THE PLUSHES ON THE GRAVESTONES!?! it is SUCH a huge lore drop! I already have the feeling that matpat is gonna get confused by the puppet one but the others would be confirmed!
OK idgaf about the Mystic Hippo section for her as much as i thought id be, bc why. WHY IS THERE A MONTY HEAD AND WHERE DID YOU GET IT. No one ive seen play this game has seen Monty.
It’s only a PSVR2 thing. It uses the eye tracking feature so you can stare at a card and then it’ll call out the card you’re looking at. It’s pretty lame so you’re not missing out.
Bonnie's been important, he's been there since the beginning, Shadow Bonnie, became one of the biggest mysteries in SB, Dead Body in Ruin, Cassie's Father fav. Animatronic is Bonnie with the theory that we're playing as Cassie's Father in this game and he was one of the bullies and that was a mask he wore years ago. Honestly the bigger question is, why isn't Bonnie more important
@@b_random5511 No I definitely can, because Bonnie and Freddy were *the first two* Bonnie's being Afton And Freddy Henry Just watch Matpats timeline Then the others came and it turned into a family diner Also, Foxy mask isn't the one we saw now is it? No it was Bonnie's and Michael's dead and it's focusing on Bonnie because it's theorized that the character is Cassie's Dad and we know Bonnie was his favorite and the possibility of him being Bonnie Bro or somewhat related so yeah, that's why we're talking about Bonnie and not Foxy